Gordon Duff Stuns the World - In His "for President" Expose

Gordon Duff Stuns the World - In His "for President" Expose

/ I don't think he is actually running for President,
but in this tour de force he shows the leadership in courage we used to expect
from "The Leader of the Free World" /

xx

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=w8jZLZ1Js5o

VT Radio (6-4-14) Stew Webb, Gordon Duff, Jim Fetzer as "Gordon Unloads"

Published on Jun 4, 2014
Stew Webb & Jim Fetzer both believe this is one of Gordon Duff's best interviews! Gordon unloads on a wide range of topics. Some of the topics covered are:

The 350 stolen W54 nuclear warheads that were illegally sold out the back door when they were supposed to be destroyed by US facilities and how those weapons have been traced to Israel and were used to take down the towers during 9/11

Proof of the stolen W54 warheads through pictures of a UN recovery operation of the nuclear pits in South Africa

The nano thermite theory was a government psyop from the beginning and all who pushed it are being paid as intelligence assets including Alex Jones and many others.

How Alex Jones has been outed as controlled opposition now by pushing the Israeli Mossad asset Edward Snowden who pushes fairy tales concerning 9/11 to take blame away from the Israelis and the Bushes.

It can now be reported that the US Navy sank 2 Israeli submarines in the May 2013 time frame that were attempting to start the war with Syria. One of these submarines was sank in partial retaliation over the deliberate Israeli attack on the USS Liberty. It was reported that Israel contracted with Germany to replace the two lost submarines and paid for them with nuclear weapons.

Nuclear pits used to take down the towers were machined and modified in Israel.

Victor Booth as portrayed by Nicholas Cage in the movie "Lord of War" sold these stolen nuclear pits of the US W54 nuclear weapons.

The nuclear bombs used on 9/11 were Neutron Bombs withs 3% fission initiator that vaporized much of the buildings. Dimitri Khalezov was basically right all along and that's why his videos were taken down relentlessly when they first came out!

Russian and French Intelligence are dumping a huge amount of Intelligence files to stop the US insanity of trying to start wars in Ukraine, China, Syria, etc.

US News is now being completely fabricated by the mainstream news sources. The US has no elections and is the most corrupt country on Earth at this time. Our judges are corrupt, our law enforcement is corrupt and our government doesn't answer to the people in any way.

Gordon Duff calls on everybody to get on the winning team now or be destroyed in the future.

Gordon Duff calls on all US Citizens to quit financially supporting and sending out information from known disinformation sources in the alternative media such as Alex Jones, Glenn Beck etc or wake up in a FEMA cell wishing you would have instead pushed the articles written by VeteransToday personnel - the largest and most accurate news organization on the planet that are actually doing something about things now!

"Everyone who mentions nanothermites is an intelligence agent."

Wait... didn't you just mention them?

Shoot, now I just mentioned them. Damn it!

The nanothermite thing is a bit of a red herring, IMO. It seems more likely that with an op as big as demolishing the WTC, several 'layers' of demolition devices were used, including something that generated nanothermite. A 'layered' approach also fits with an old CIA tactic for concealing the truth about anything: use a 'limited hangout' - or partial truth - to throw pursuers off the scent of the deeper reality. Yeah, let them find the nasty nanothermite in case anyone goes snooping. And they'll think they've found the whole ugly story and stop looking for more....

I don't think it's to anyone's discredit that they found the thermite. And it speaks to some very good spook training or instinct for those who continued the pursuit from there. Methinks Gord is falling into the same ego trap that trips up lesser mortals when he attacks Alex Jones et al. But in this business, everyone gets a little paranoid. That's perfectly normal.

Cheers,

Selene

His absolute mockery of mainstream science is encouraging especially as both he and Stew directed the listener to a preferred repository of books.

I do not waste my time listening to folks whos base message cannot be delivered without destroying, attacking and otherwise, humiliating others in the truther movement. Duff has done himself a permanent dis-service,,, if you ask me. Whatever 'truth' he posits by satire,,, is overwhelmed by his ego, and his insisting that any voice,, (other than his) is misinformation... I smell a rat...

My brother (rush limbaugh/alabama republican) consistantly derails me for being a 'conspiracy theorist'... "prove it, dumb ass"... thats his line!!! Yet at the same time,, he insists that he has a secret D.O.D. insider, who trickles info to him... I don't know what they did to him in the military,,, but he cannot see the hypocracy... Military minded folks, generally, will not. It is thier way, or nothing....

I didn't see where i could vote for: Complete trickster/joker/muse/jestor....

This is my own opinion...

Jake.

I find that anyone who talks as fast as GD does in this interview, extremely difficult to absorb. I agree with Jake, the ego far outweighed anything informative. My way or the highway is what I got from it. That said, I cannot say if this was the motive. Perhaps if GD listens to his own interviews he might learn a better way to get his view across. I had to stop listening 15 minutes in, rather nervewracking to be honest.

Jake:

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I do not waste my time listening to folks whos base message cannot be delivered without destroying, attacking and otherwise, humiliating others in the truther movement. Duff has done himself a permanent dis-service,,, if you ask me. Whatever 'truth' he posits by satire,,, is overwhelmed by his ego, and his insisting that any voice,, (other than his) is misinformation... I smell a rat...

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Thanks Jake.


Glenn Canady:

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Gordon Duff calls on everybody to get on the winning team now or be destroyed in the future.

Gordon Duff calls on all US Citizens to quit financially supporting and sending out information from known disinformation sources in the alternative media such as Alex Jones, Glenn Beck etc or wake up in a FEMA cell wishing you would have instead pushed the articles written by VeteransToday personnel - the largest and most accurate news organization on the planet that are actually doing something about things now!

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This is just plain sad and embarrassing for me personally.

Do not think duff cares what any of you think!

It's to late for that now ....war is coming.....


Nine

I find Duff and VT to be one of the most believable "truth" websites out there. I have read that he has admitted some stuff on VT is disinfo, that it has to be in order not to be whacked. I haven't figured that one out yet. I have also seen statements "Duff is disinfo!" on various sites but never any proof to back it up. It's the kind of statements shills make to discredit those who aren't. And yeah, yeah, Duff has basically done that by naming Jones and Beck. So it's all up to the individual "deciders." (A little trip down bad memory lane there..) But I will continue to trust VT/Duff as reliable until I see solid proof otherwise. The articles there ring truer there than most sites.

As far as dissing other alternative sites, I don't see that very often at all in VT articles. (I don't watch many videos at all because of crappy bandwidth issues.) But, yes, Alex Jones and Glenn Beck are water-carrying fakes that too many people believe aren't and they need to be called out because THEY are the types doing major disservice to the truth movement. I give Jones credit for helping start me down the rabbit hole. But his extreme reluctance to point the finger at Israel is a huge pink elephant and he comes across as strictly fear porn. (I have read that one shouldn't trust websites with a bunch of survival supply ads! Haha.) Beck is just nuts.

http://youtu.be/iToW_l8V0Ig

Please watch this vid and ifit makes you mad you are not paying attention...


Nine

I don't see how that relates to this thread, unless it's about voices that annoy people. What's up with the Gomer Pyle imitation? Irony?

Wow!

You do not get this!

Nine

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I do not waste my time listening to folks whos base message cannot be delivered without destroying, attacking and otherwise, humiliating others in the truther movement. Duff has done himself a permanent dis-service,,, if you ask me. Whatever 'truth' he posits by satire,,, is overwhelmed by his ego, and his insisting that any voice,, (other than his) is misinformation... I smell a rat...

Jake.

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Huh?
You don't think people should ever disagree with passion?

Maybe I have misunderstood you.
But if do understand you : I disagree with passion.
Of course, there will be disagreements.
The Key thing is having a respectful discussion that leads towards Truth.

As an example:
I have strongly disagreed with the Dinar RV, OPPT, Swissindo...

All evidence suggests they are scams.
Even though they may be expressed with good intent, and believed by people with good intent,
IMO the only sensible approach towards these scams now is "PUT A FORK IN IT!"
At the same time, if someone comes forward with actual sound evidence to support the case for one of them,
I am open to it.

After many months, there has been no good evidence on the RV, OPPT, Swissindo - though I am open to it.
(Bring it on, if you have it.)

Fetzer did a reasonable job in examining the evidence after Duff had a disagreement on the NanoTh. - Have you seen it?

I think Duff is doing a real service, and to try to prevent people from having a disagreement is the worst
sort of political correctness.

But, Hey, maybe I misunderstood you. (if so, I am happy to change my tune)

Shooting the messenger always detracts from the message. It was a radio broadcast with warnings and info about what's coming down the pike. How many times do we have to be told that this war is for keeps, haven't we had enough of our lives and liberties curtailed yet? Time to take it down folks, all of the stinking mess, close the borders and try them for the crimes they have committed. There are Constitutionalist still embedded and turning things around, is it not wise to watch for them and assist if needed. IMHO

"Wow!

You do not get this!

Nine "

Enlighten me. Like I said, I rarely am able to watch videos because of bandwidth issues. What is the relation?

I have never gotten the desire of so many to bash Jones, and I dislike that Duff, someone I admire, did it.
Jones does a lot for truth. Remember, to most people, MSM types, Jones is WAY out there. He is often the
initial point of waking up for a lot of people. He spreads much truth too. He's not perfect. So what. Concentrate
your anger and dissatisfaction on Fox, CNN, NYT, etc. Why go after someone like Alex Jones, someone we
actually kind of need. As I said, I don't get it.

David,

Watch the video that I posted...

Its pure satire about a very Gay republican operative working in an office talking on the phone to the various folks that are his groups constituents.

He starts by talking to his broker and gets interrupted by a call which he takes and he changes his voice from a new york accent to a country one to cater to that customer....

He is anti gay and pro gun and as he talks to the various constituents he changes his voice and manor to suit who he is speaking with....at the end as he talks with his broker he tells him to order 200000 worth of gun stocks due to what he is stirring up in the media and asks the man on the other line for a Gay "date"....very funny stuff....but so much like how the political system works and it relates to what Gordon is talking about....It is clearly a spoof showing the hypocracy of the tea party branch of the 'publican party....

Also with satire Sean the actor and writer of these clever little video is showing the total lack of integrity within our totally corrupt political system and sad to say it is embarrassing to admit to being an American....


Jake, I hope you can watch it again to catch the satire which is a very clever way to communicate a truth....

Sorry...

Thanks


Nine

David,

I am pissed off....who did 9/11?

I am pissed off that they got away with it....there were casualties from 9/11 at my agency that I am now retired from and I won't forget....

Jones is covering for the perps and if that is not straight up enough for you I have nothing more to say to you....

Many of us in Government want to see them dangling from the end of a rope.....

Duff told us the truth ....there are no elections in America and no way to bring them to justice and when you think about that and if that does not anger you there is no hope for this country.....

Duff also talked about the "Stink" tanks that feed the tea party and of course the Bengahzi bs and the even stranger BS of the Bundy ranch deal....

Duff told us that we are being played like fiddles and I am livid pissed off.....I am paying attention....

Nine

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"Everyone who mentions nanothermites is an intelligence agent."

Wait... didn't you just mention them?

Shoot, now I just mentioned them. Damn it!

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you can not fix stupid....


Nine

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Posted by David Ansible

I have never gotten the desire of so many to bash Jones, and I dislike that Duff, someone I admire, did it.
Jones does a lot for truth. Remember, to most people, MSM types, Jones is WAY out there. He is often the
initial point of waking up for a lot of people. He spreads much truth too. He's not perfect. So what. Concentrate
your anger and dissatisfaction on Fox, CNN, NYT, etc. Why go after someone like Alex Jones, someone we
actually kind of need. As I said, I don't get it.

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I agree with you.
Jones is the first step for many on the ladder to seeing the Bigger Picture.
Duff isn't the top of the ladder, since I think someone like Linda Moulton Howe, or Dr Richard Alan Miller may have a more complete Big Picture view.

If you are interested in LMH's Big View, this might help:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=kh8gOgK8oWk

I hope to do something similar with Dr RAM someday soon

This is for you cow "manure" sniffers...

Now this is pure satire from Sean Healey about the bundy ranch...

He is just copying the anarchy rights won by one Cliven Bundy and he is putting on Bundy fest....a clothing optional gay friendly event across the street from the bundy ranch....

Militia support has been promised and then that support has been withdrawn because it appears that the Mormon element in the community is homophobic and they don't like hippies.

I kind of don't get that with the morons ...ah....Mormons since they can have many wives....well it seems silly to me that being Gay or being a hippie is an issue....

Well Bundy fest looks like an awesome event....

https://youtube.com/watch?v=sSsf8iEIdEc


And it looks like our lord and savior Jesus Christ has had a personal word or two with our Clive....

https://youtube.com/watch?v=RJYSVrjANwY

And of course hey ....its the focking internet right???

Nine

I second the nomination....


Gordon Duff for president!!!

Since I am upon a roll here I propose that the internet is a total idiocracy....

The idiots run the place with there endless shill posts....of course they get paid for there nonsense and the rest of us normal folks simply react to the bull****.....as it were....

Gordon in his rant with Stew Webb asked an important question....how do the shills live....I mean how do they support themselves and their families?

They go here and they go there as Duff says and no one asks any questions....what the ****?

Stupid is as stupid does I guess...


Just thinking out loud....


Nine

THere is some evidence that Israel for years employed people to "pa-troll" the web, and seek out antisemitic comments and posters, and engage them in battle.

In some cases, they also pretended to be anti-semitic to make it seem there was a job for the ADL, and a need to fund it.

I think there is less of this going on since it was exposed. But I cannot believe it has stopped altogether.

If Israel was doing it, there must be many others (who need protecting? - or spin to stay in business) doing the same.
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BTW, I was surprised to see that, VT was regarded this way:
"Mostly fantasy and misinformation"
By 5 people!

I really wonder who thinks that way???
Maybe someone could say:
WHO does a better job at reporting the News?
If you think: "The Main Stream Media" - are you will to defend that idea?

Since my thinking cap is on....

Wade Fraser of Avalon talks about free energy and personal integrity and how the two go hand and hand....

Gordon is telling us about government and its total lack of personal integrity and the consequences of such things.

The two are related....all governments are corrupt and that is fact and so what Gordon is talking about is a private non governmental group of concerned human beings.....which I am one of those if that is true....

I am going to have to listen to Gordon's talk one more time even though his words are so painful to hear on a personal level....

Wade talks of Godzilla and his activities and so Godzilla is in factions now and how this plays out is any ones guess....

I am so pro American that I might be blinded to a pro humanity approach to thinking upon such issues....

Gordon is a good man....

Well dearest Avalon thanks for listening to my rants...

Nine

"Wade Fraser of Avalon talks about free energy and personal integrity and how the two go hand and hand...."

I'm not sure what that means.
But I think personal integrity means: Restricting your use of Energy (somewhat) at least until Free Energy devices have been built and are being distributed widely. If you do otherwise, you are ROBBING future generations IMO.

It think it is shameful beyond words that Americans waste so much Energy, and burn gasoline in such a careless way.
If the US dollar collapses, gasoline will go up to $10 per gallon rather quickly, a price that it should have been a long time ago (and IS, in many countries in the world !)

If Americans start whining then, I truly think they will simply be getting what they deserve.

All those Wars that were fought to protect US interests in energy, should never have been fought. And only a few awake and aware Americans like Ron Paul, were willing to talk about it.

http://www.konsultacia.biz/wp-conten...x-gt1fng5i.jpg

I am American and also pro-American - but certainly not pro-Sleeping-Americans, and there are so very many of those, including idiot politicians who talk about immoral ideas like: American Exceptionalism. And if suffering is what is needed to wake them up, it is sad - but BRING IT ON !

Dearest Guy,

Upon being a Jew or of Judaism....

My Jewish friends who were mostly atheists and socialists and folks looking for the best in humanity listened to my Christian Zionist rants until I woke up....

No Jew that I know looks at alex jones or any of his foolishness....

No Jew that I know looks at the war mongering Baptist church....

The Jews I know are progressive and pro freedom...

Now you would say look at those Jews running the American Government....ahh that is the problem that needs to be discussed which is political Zionism not a religion but a political movement....

Simply explain to me how I present this to my 17 year old home schooled daughter who is free of American school indoctrination?

That is a good one...

Nine

I am not anti-semitic.
I know too many fine Jewish people to think that way.

But I do think that Zionists are another matter altogether. They use the Jewish religion in the same way that a Wolf might use sheep's clothing.

Zionist Israel has much to answer for, and has not be a force for peace on this planet IMO.

Is there really any sense in allowing Dual Citizens into our government, or central bank, in leadership roles. To which country are they loyal?

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Posted by GuyFox

"Wade Fraser of Avalon talks about free energy and personal integrity and how the two go hand and hand...."

I'm not sure what that means.
But I think personal integrity means: Restricting your use of Energy (somewhat) at least until Free Energy devices have been built and are being distributed widely. If you do otherwise, you are ROBBING future generations IMO.

It think it is shameful beyond words that Americans waste so much Energy, and burn gasoline in such a careless way.
If the US dollar collapses, gasoline will go up to $10 per gallon rather quickly, a price that it should have been a long time ago (and IS, in many countries in the world !)

If Americans start whining then, I truly think they will simply be getting what they deserve.

All those Wars that were fought to protect US interests in energy, should never have been fought. And only a few awake and aware Americans like Ron Paul, were willing to talk about it.

http://www.konsultacia.biz/wp-conten...x-gt1fng5i.jpg

I am American and also pro-American - but certainly not pro-Sleeping-Americans, and there are so very many of those, including idiot politicians who talk about immoral ideas like: American Exceptionalism. And if suffering is what is needed to wake them up, it is sad - but BRING IT ON !

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Dearest guy....with much love...


That is not what Wade is talking about...

Wade talks about merely thinking about abundance and what free energy would provide.

Wade says that everything revolves around energy and to think of a human pardine without scarcity is what we must concentrate upon.

Wade says that there is no way to elude Godzilla but to make him obsolete....

I know government and it is seriously focked up....

Take that or leave that....


Nine

Dearest Guy,

How indeed do I explain this to my unindoctrinated home schooled daughter?

We are Christian nominally but with little indoctrination....Freedom of thought is practiced in my house....

Live is so very very good...

to each his own...

Nine

personal integrity and free energy are one and the same...

What Gordon talks about and that is what Tesla dreamed about is here now in black projects....it is here and America paid for it...**** do you see that....

The American founders did not believe in mob rule which is democracy they believed in limited government based upon the rule of law and a system of elected people from the people to govern correctly...if that people were properly educated...

Total corruption and the possibility of such was not on the mind of our founders....as it were....they thought if we set up a perfect system we would have a perfect government...how has that worked out for us....so far....

Well we have the mob all fired up upon Benghazi and the Bundy ranch and other such nonsense ....and the mob is a bunch of idiots that can not nor will they ever be permitted to rule....

And this ties into the government and Godzilla which Wade so eloquently speaks about....

Some say Gordon Duff is an elitist but I would say he is more of a protector of our humanity....

The governments of this world are torn about in faction for power and rule and yet the rest of humanity like where I live is in peace and quiet and living a good life...until stirred by faction such as in the Ukraine....

Avalon is full of good folk and you all had better wake up....


Nine

It has occurred to me at least is that the American bureaucratic system is perfect upon its nature....

And that its perfect lack of integrety on its nature have seemed to have collided in a poetic nature...

Integrity and bureaucracy go together....

without integrity bureaucracy can not function....

so they took integrate out of the society...and replaced it with... something else....Nothing....something...what I do not know...

degrade the society and degrade the system of bureaucracy.....


Think about all of this if you wish to help in any manor...

Nine

Okay I gotcha now, nine. Thanks for clarifying. I should have clarified my comment -- with my bandwidth issues, I didn't see any of Gordon's video unfortunately and I only watched some of the satirical one you posted and clicked off before I saw enough. I agree with you re: Gordon. He seems like the real deal. I also agree w/you on phony pandering and fake movements and movements that are hijacked for political purposes. I wish more people saw through this kind of stuff but even on alternative sites, you see people arguing over stuff TPTB want them to argue over. The Bergdahl story is the latest. It smells like pure psyops (or ZI-OPS) to me to distract from something else they don't want people paying attention to. Yet huge arguments rage, instigated often by fly-by shills I believe, but drawing in those whose emotional buttons have deftly been pushed.

They replaced integrity with infiltration, nine. They have infiltrated to the hilt. They have infiltrated the government and infiltrated the media (or I probably should say "in-filth-trated" the media). There are Project Mockingbird footprints all over mainstream media "news" and Project Zionized (?) the "entertainment" industry with such base, degrading sleaze and stupidity, they have undermined and destroyed culture and turned it into a foul cesspool of ignorance, perversion, and debauchery. That's why it is broken down beyond all repair.

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I do not waste my time listening to folks whos base message cannot be delivered without destroying, attacking and otherwise, humiliating others in the truther movement. Duff has done himself a permanent dis-service,,, if you ask me. Whatever 'truth' he posits by satire,,, is overwhelmed by his ego, and his insisting that any voice,, (other than his) is misinformation... I smell a rat...

Jake.

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Huh?
You don't think people should ever disagree with passion?

Maybe I have misunderstood you.
But if do understand you : I disagree with passion.
Of course, there will be disagreements.
The Key thing is having a respectful discussion that leads towards Truth.

As an example:
I have strongly disagreed with the Dinar RV, OPPT, Swissindo...

All evidence suggests they are scams.
Even though they may be expressed with good intent, and believed by people with good intent,
IMO the only sensible approach towards these scams now is "PUT A FORK IN IT!"
At the same time, if someone comes forward with actual sound evidence to support the case for one of them,
I am open to it.

After many months, there has been no good evidence on the RV, OPPT, Swissindo - though I am open to it.
(Bring it on, if you have it.)

Fetzer did a reasonable job in examining the evidence after Duff had a disagreement on the NanoTh. - Have you seen it?

I think Duff is doing a real service, and to try to prevent people from having a disagreement is the worst
sort of political correctness.

But, Hey, maybe I misunderstood you. (if so, I am happy to change my tune)

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I think everyone should be passionate about their message. So do you posit that passion cannot be expressed without attacking/insulting/ LIEING/ humiliating others... There should be plenty of subject matter to be passionate about. The fact that this man CANNOT FUNCTION WITHOUT ATTACKING OTHERS is revealing, to say the least. Look,,, i have misgivings about any human who has to prop themselves up by tearing someones else down!!!

Again,,, I challange anyone who takes Duffs lead to please, THINK FOR YOURSELF!!! Damn near every single person that champions Gordon Duff (that i know personally) is a rude insulting arrogant person who cannot think for themselves. This has been my experience,,, sorry.

There is a gambit afoot! Divide and conquer... What happens to the truther movement once the favorite spokespersons have begun trying to destroy one another??

So who are the 'misinfo' jockeys??? Litmis test: Who is out there trying to destroy/discredit/humiliate/insult/attack the others??

Nine,, I am quite sure that Duff deosn't care what ANYONE thinks... he has his own world to protect!!!! Duff has adopted a tendency to protect his version of the truth,, Not THE truth. If i were in the position that Duff is in,, i would champion opposing views. I would admit when i was wrong, and make an effort to give credit to others who are on the same team. WHEN HAS GORDON DUFF EVER DONE THIS???

Revealing,,,, folks!!!

If one has blindly accepted the view of another without regard for ones own thoughts,,, it makes sense that one would get angry when their 'master' was being called out!!!

Whenever one point a finger at another,, there are three pointing back at him...

My friend... Disagreeing is fine,,, it is inevitable in many cases.... I can disagree with you without trying to destroy you, attack you, discredit you, insult you, disrespect you... etc...

Passion in discourse is perfectly acceptable. Maybe you haven't given it much thought, but why can't Gordon Duff function without attacking others? Serious question here!! A template that Limbaugh laid out for us!! Make fun of the other side,, and you don't NEED facts to back up you opinion..

EFFIN BRILLIANT....

If Duff was an Avalonian,,, I would keep a close eye on him because i know that he cannot discours with someone who disagrees without insulting them... And that does NOT fly here!! We are disagreeing right now,,, am I insulting you? No!! Are you insulting me? No! Are we making progress?? HELL YES WERE MAKING PROGRESS... :):)

Forgive me please if my rant about Duff offends you... I will do my part to try and understand this with a more clear perspective... Will you do the same??

Luv you guys,,
Jake.

.... Jake, why don't you go to VT and confront Duff about your concerns. Go nose to nose with him about facts and proof. Many a curtain is being lifted around the world and many more will be exposed. The deceptions are different at every level and there is hardly any more intelligence left in proper analysis. Half truths and omitting vital information is the trade mark of most schills.

"Again,,, I challange anyone who takes Duffs lead to please, THINK FOR YOURSELF!!! Damn near every single person that champions Gordon Duff (that i know personally) is a rude insulting arrogant person who cannot think for themselves. This has been my experience,,, sorry."

A lot of Avalonians might not agree with you!

"If Duff was an Avalonian,,, I would keep a close eye on him because i know that he cannot discours with someone who disagrees without insulting them... And that does NOT fly here!!"

See above.

Peace!

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Damn near every single person that champions Gordon Duff (that i know personally) is a rude insulting arrogant person who cannot think for themselves. This has been my experience,,, sorry.

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Well ... I'm not sure what are the nuances of the word "champions" in your statement ... but I do read a fair portion of what Gordon Duff writes with interest, expecting to find some useful information in and amongst the disinformation and dissension.

Sometimes he has what I consider important information, such as the Russian intelligence reports he passed on recently that the WTC twin towers were destroyed primarily by small nukes that the Israeli's recycled and remanufactured from US "discards".

Pretty much all sources at my disposal, including my own brain, are highly imperfect. So, like the down and out person eating from the dumpster behind a restaurant, I take what I can get, knowing full well it may be the death of me yet, from food poisoning or similar.

Correction ... all sources that I am aware of :).

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I do pick and choose what to eat in what I can find in the dumpster of life. One thing I have learned that I currently suspect is right: The reasons that my verbal brain offers up for what I choose and what I reject are mostly gibberish.

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P.S. -- I do agree, Jake, that there is a more than ample supply of disinformation and dissension in the writings of Gordon Duff.

Thank you to everyobody here who approaches this subject with respect and dignity towards others... I was never under the impression that everyone at Avalon had to agree.. Not so. Part of what sets Avalonians apart from others is that they have the ability to discourse without personal attacks and insults and lies and disrespect and ridicule,,, (i could go on and on)

The truth is the truth,, without regards who is talking about it... I have a big problem with Gorduff deciding for everyone that HIS team is the winning team!!! I hadn't realized it was a competition.. The responsible thing to do would be to perhaps point out where he agrees or disagrees with others,,, NOT to discredit and destroy them, in a blatent effort to prop yourself up as the leader of a grass roots movement.. Is that really what this is about?? Because if it is, then Gordon IS right,,, his 'team' is not where i want to be!!

I go to manymany places for information. I haven't come accross a single source who has all the peices of the puzzle... It doesn't work like that.

For the record,, i have sent a couple of email requests to Duffs team. Still waitning for a response. (maybe I'll hold my breath) :) just kidding,, maybe that was a bit unfair,,, my apologies...

I wonder if we were to ask Gordon about UFO's or OBE's or Shapeshifting Reptilians,, if we would get a responsible, intelligent answer...

I love your challenge for me to face off with Gorduff. That would be a hoot. He would walk all over me in the subject matter that he is most knowlegeable in,,, and then he would ridicule me and insult me on the stuff that I was most knowlegeable in.. If i know something that he doesn't,,,, he would craft it in a way that made ME look ignorant.

There are different 'front lines' where the battles over the hearts and minds of the people of planet earth are being engaged.. And we need the kinds of leaders that can take what they do best and confront the truth from that angle. We need Alex Jones, to be Alex Jones, We need David Icke to be David Icke, We need Bill Ryan to be Bill Ryan, We need Bob Dean to be Bob Dean... What we DON'T need is for anyobody to claim that it is ONLY THEM that can save the world...

I am sure that between Alex and Bob and Bill and David etc... there will be plenty of disagreements. That is fine,, overall,, we are ALL on the same team.. What kind of true leader cannot see that???

So some of the finest minds that i know are telling me that i am wrong regarding Gorduff... I will take it into consideration.. Thank you...

Jake.

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So some of the finest minds that i know are telling me that i am wrong regarding Gorduff... I will take it into consideration.. Thank you...

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We're probably just commenting on different aspects of a more subtle whole.

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... The fact that this man CANNOT FUNCTION WITHOUT ATTACKING OTHERS is revealing, to say the least. Look,,, i have misgivings about any human who has to prop themselves up by tearing someones else down!!!

Again,,, I challange anyone who takes Duffs lead to please, THINK FOR YOURSELF!!! Damn near every single person that champions Gordon Duff (that i know personally) is a rude insulting arrogant person who cannot think for themselves. This has been my experience,,, sorry.
Jake.

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Goodness me, Jake.
Have you no sense of irony?
You have just "sent yourself up", as they say in the UK