Alex Jones / InfoWars.com

Hello, I have serious doubts about the integrity of Alex Jones because of three things. He is always acting like he is full of anger when he is talking about this conspiracy and that makes our anger grow, if you have anger you can't think. Then he is scaring people to make them stop moving forward. His show is full of excitment, i mean the music, the way he talk very fast, it's very hard to stay calm and watch this video, and when you are quiet your brain is fonctioning much better, why do you think aliens are so calm? AND the most obvious on top of it is the Info Wars show hypnosis and mind fragmentation, they use the same technique on foxnews with the spining circles for the hypnosis and the flash of lights for fragmentation, why use hypnosis and mind fragmentation?

If you ask me this show is a way to make the smart pepole dumb, look just how much agitate this guy is acting.

and this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znxWfhJOP0E

On his first apparition on BBC and after 30 seconds he say "nazi plan" to make sure that every body know that he is crazy and keep acting like that to the end:tsk:. Then the guy from the times ask him if he is part of the conspiracy by using 1. they dont exist 2. you are part of the conspiracy. Then the guy from the times says "I say the first", Then the interviewer say "I say the second", then the times guy retract himself (maybe because he see that the other one have the nuts to say it) and say "I say the second".

What do you think?

Good morning jeanpistache.

A valid observation and synopsis. There are a lot of theories regarding Alex Jones. Personally, I have never been able, nor would I want to, watch his show for the very reasons you have stated above.

Beware the Angry Man.


Regards.

I'm happy to hear it, I agree with your signature.

Yes, possibly the only Original Thought I've ever had.


Regards.

Alex Jones is doing a job. He's earning a good living. He has a specific "I-wanna-be-scared-and-angry-too-but-keep-it-simple" audience who enjoy his stuff.

Many just laugh at him, but maybe he's a lightning rod for the government and media to appreciate some of the underlying fears a minority of the population may have.

He has a well honed public persona which may go down well in the US, but he appeared on British TV in 2013; hope this video link is available outside the UK:

http://www.theguardian.com/media/201...unday-politics (Edited version 1' 20")

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znxWfhJOP0E (Full version 6' 09")

Analysis of the interview with Andrew Neil justifying his action. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPcUFVeJwxs (7' 40")

Alex Jones is something else! As you can see, his performance in front of the mild-mannered Andrew Neil in the BBC's Sunday Politics show makes him look like a bloody nutter, and maybe he is. If he's not, then Jones has a very poor grasp of how to get his message across to different audiences.

He'll never get a second chance to make a first impression over here. He's blown it.

Nick

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On his first apparition on BBC and after 30 seconds he say "nazi plan". Then the guy from the times ask him if he is part of the conspiracy by using 1. they dont exist 2. you are part of the conspiracy. Then the guy from the times says "I say the first", Then the interviewer say "I say the second", then the times guy retract himself (maybe because he see that the other one have the nuts to say it) and say "I say the second".

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Hello, I have serious doubts about the integrity of Alex Jones because of three things. He is always acting like he is full of anger when he is talking about this conspiracy and that makes our anger grow, if you have anger you can't think. Then he is scaring people to make them stop moving forward. His show is full of excitment, i mean the music, the way he talk very fast, it's very hard to stay calm and watch this video, and when you are quiet your brain is fonctioning much better, why do you think aliens are so calm? AND the most obvious on top of it is the Info Wars show hypnosis and mind fragmentation, they use the same technique on foxnews with the spining circles for the hypnosis and the flash of lights for fragmentation, why use hypnosis and mind fragmentation?

If you ask me this show is a way to make the smart pepole dumb, look just how much agitate this guy is acting. What do you think?

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So what are the alternatives?

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So what are the alternatives?

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I don't know...

He and others like David Icke are waking people up in different ways.
Then every person do his own reserch see depending och what is important to them, and after a while a bigger picture will open.

- For me the most important thing is get people de-hypnetized before things have gone to far.

So I listen to him and filter away a lot, but get a lot good information too.

Nahhhh....your all misinterpreting a guy who has dedicated his career and life to open peoples eyes.
While where at it, lets criticize Bill Ryan, David Icke, Michael tsarion,Kerry Cassidy, Mark passio..blah blah blah.....
People, any one focused enough to provide information and intel to the general public is doing more than you and me
rambling on about how they are angry and hyperactive...come on.
If you take into consideration that to wake the general public up and to stand against tyranny means...we need to get angry..
Then Im in....It is a natural emotion that rises in passionate people who go from thought to emotion to action.....Without the fuel from
anger we sit dormant and right B.S statements about those who are doing the work.
Interesting that most of you criticising Alex Jones are not from the U.S ??
Im sure there are plenty of Americans who thank Mr Jones for being a bull in a military/Industrial oligarchy China shop.

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So what are the alternatives?

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I don't know...

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He and others like David Icke are waking people up in different ways.
Then every person do his own reserch see depending och what is important to them, and after a while a bigger picture will open.

- For me the most important thing is get people de-hypnetized before things have gone to far.

So I listen to him and filter away a lot, but get a lot good information too.

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What do you think about David Icke?

Alex Jones has often been his own worst enemy - after a few years studying his presentations I have reached the conclusion that he is in fact entirely sincere, his own politics are quite simple, he is an old fashioned republican libertarian
from Texas.
His basic christian faith is almost 'Rockwellian'. Alex first came to my attention with his covert infiltration of the "Sacred Grove" and his exposure of the decadent moral relativism of the world leader club, and the dark agenda of Bilderberg. He runs a media business and has been very successful, which makes him a prime target for jealous onlookers who envy his hard work and enterprise (the fruits of this) At least Alex Jones is offering a true alternative to the warm pap that is offered mainstream Americans and passes for 'News'. No, i think you are wrong about Alex Jones, he may rant and roar -but he is genuinely angry at the overt destruction of our civilization, a few more people need to get angry, to offer resistance to the creeping fascist tyranny that is so obviously poisoning our western civilization - there is nothing wrong with being angry, it is directionless and pointless violence that is wrong, and anger for selfish reasons.
Alex Jones may be a simple man, but his clear sighted vision sees what so many are blinkered to seeing.

There is no doubt in my mind that Alex Jones has a good intension for humanity. People that have gone/are going very deeply into the dark to discover the truth, people like Alex Jones, people like William Cooper, people like Gerald Celente, do not return calm, they return pissed off and sometimes attach bi-products of the evil with them. Being pissed off in truth and spreading the truth in that state of mind, does not have the same impact as spreading the truth in a less authentic fashion. Truth and authenticity are very inter-linked. Now, at times I am sure that "pissed off" aspect about Alex can turn into hate at times and that's of course not good, but judging him for that is totally unfair, here we are not digging as deeply into the **** as he is, we just receive the truth of his digging into the ****, for free and we are here then to judge him for that. Not fair. So in my view what a truth seeker should do is to not judge Alex for anything, but to guide him towards taming his "pissed off" states away from hate as sometimes might be a bi-product, both to help him and to help others as well, and beyond that be very loving and appreciative about his service to mankind.

Being a truth seeker, is at times hard, because the judgment takes over. It is very difficult not to judge the cabal, and to stay loving towards the cabal. This is the great challenge for truth seekers. But as a community we can grow these elements of love and ensure peace is brought to everyone, including to those that the mind logically finds are not worth it.

Alex Jones is a hero in my books, a hero with flaws, just as we are individuals with flaws too. He just throws himself out there, does what he needs to do, very authentic and very driven by spreading awareness to help free mankind from the bonds of the evil. With a single voice he opposes the powers of evil, every day. If everyone would be like him, the evil would fade very quickly.

My logical mind sometimes struggles with some of what these people are saying, I'm paying much attention towards not turning judgmental when they for instance sometimes are rooted in ego about illegal immigration, I don't approve that part of the message, but I don't turn my back on them either. Here they are talking about freedom for mankind, yet when it comes down to it they are not even ready to love immigrants as much as themselves, in fact they want immigrants to stay away from their country (some more, some less). To all of the truth seekers that fall victim of that, I tame my ego towards being forgiving, understanding and non-judgmental. My logical mind understands the negative aspects of leaking the kind of hate mentality that morphs into the context of the truth, but as a truth seeker I feel I am not here to judge, but to help spread truth, freedom and peace - for all.

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So what are the alternatives?

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I don't know...

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really...?

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yeah sure i'm a cia agent trying to fool 5 random dudes about alex jones the savior of man kind :)

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So what are the alternatives?

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yeah sure i'm a cia agent trying to fool 5 random dudes about alex jones the savior of man kind :)

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Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=XepP8mkyynk

As much great info as you can get from InfoWars, it is controlled opposition and you must be very careful there. This is understood by the fact there are some telling topics AJ refuses to ever touch. It's also obvious in how strongly he tries to create crisis and incite violence. I do check in every day but I tread carefully.

Matt

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Couldn't have said it better myself. The guy does have pelotas though. How many journalists have sneaked into Bohemian Grove and videoed the "Cremation of Care" ritual?

what is pelotas?

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Couldn't have said it better myself. The guy does have pelotas though. How many journalists have sneaked into Bohemian Grove and videoed the "Cremation of Care" ritual?

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Perhaps so but this is also how controlled opposition works. Certain assets are given just enough access and/or information that gives a perception of being on a particular side in order to earn that side's trust.
Isn't it peculiar that calm, intelligent, articulate, rallying voices are not given this access and are quickly destroyed and/or killed but angry, divisive, bullying voices are allowed to go on and on and on?
I have long enjoyed the information I've gotten from AJ but it's always been obvious his character is designed to never be able to go "mainstream" and to keep his real truth from never being taken seriously. Because of how he presents, he is easily dismissed. It's kinda like how they always roll out Jesse Ventura on the mainstream to debate 9/11 and other conspiracies. So easy to dismiss...

Matt

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what is pelotas?

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balls..... in french... couilles

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Pelotas = Spanish for balls, so presumably means 'balls' as in testicles meaning he's got courage, guts, drive, vigour, determination, bravery, etc.

As far as I know, this Spanish expression for this is usually translated as 'cojones', literally meaning 'balls' (testicles) in the courage, bravery meaning sense. Maybe 'pelotas' is just a less well-known expression - from Latin America perhaps?

Balls/bollocks (English) and cojones (Spanish) are colloquial expressions for testicles!

Nick

thanks,

I agree with Matt. And I would add that there is nothing good in watching a wicked ritual. Have you learned something through these images except how to do Witchcraft?

I don't tune into Alex Jones too often. He has a gravely voice and uses it in an over bearing way. He had developed a radio personality, overwhelming his guests, trying to manipulate his audiences emotions, creating fear, resorting to all types of sensationalism. As time has progressed, I will say that he has reigned in some of his worst tendencies. I will also say why I sometimes do listen to him:

- He has good guests and has promoted some good people. Birgitta Jonsdottir who talks about the banking scams in Iceland, Rosalind Petersen on Chemtrails, just to name a few.

- He has done some good investigative work, breaking into Bohemean Grove, hanging out outside of Bilderberg meetings, etc.

- He reaches a lot of people.

Because he is a bit more "mainstream", I do like to check in with him from time to time.

I will say, I don't have any one news source I trust. Period. I always find something about most hosts that I disagree with. My philosophy is listen to everyone, but do not blindly trust anyone. You have to use your own judgement. Its probably better to listen to someone like Jones, who you disagree with some of the time because your mind will process the info you are getting, constantly deciding what you agree with and disagree with. That's so much better than passively absorbing the news like a sponge.

Kryztian: "I don't have any one news source I trust. Period" - I agree with you.

I don't listen to hem as much I used to. There is some good info there, and I believe that he tries. He has a huge audience, and I must admit that his over the top showmanship draws folks in with entertainment value. Remember Rush Limbaugh? Similar tactic? Angry rants, waving hands, red in the face, etc... at one point there was an EIB poll (radio listenership poll) that showed an overwhelming amount of Limbaugh listeners were NOT people who agreed with him. Needless to say, the Contract with America was sold to the people via Limbaugh.

My brother is a die hard Alabama Republican. Every time Alex comes up, I can tell by his talking points and his prepared jargon and his references to Alex Jones,, that he listens more than me... lol... AJ's flavor is taylored for the conservatives in America. Much of what he says will not translate to folks who don't understand Americans, and who never got a good dose of Limbaugh...

imho, he is like Limbaugh, but much more radical with regards subjuct matter.. Either way,,, MY REPUBLICAN BROTHER IS LISTENING AND LEARNING.... I like that....

Jake.

hats off to Alex in my view , he blazes his own trail ... he covers the cabal , fracking , what the DHS does , the depopulation agenda , etc ... he doesn't read the fax from the AP , he's a bit of an alarmist but , all the other news sites burp the same info , if you see one you already know what all the others are talking about , Not Alex he's on another wave ...

Alex Jones is a very intelligent aware and informed person. He is passionate about what he does. He has been instrumental in making hundreds of thousands aware of some facts that we need to realize and do something about if we can. We can at least let others know how serious this world situation has become.

What makes some people want to shoot the messenger? Do they imagine that things will get better automatically? Things are worse than most of us know about.

We need more people like Alex Jones.

I'd like to see/hear AJ and crew offer more education about how we got into this mess and how we keep it going.

If more people understood, e.g., what being a "U.S. citizen" really means, perhaps more people would take action, and the corporation (U.S.A.) would lose some of its steam.


Peace Love Joy & Harmony,
genevieve

Limited Hangout.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limited_hangout


OR.........

The Kansas City Shuffle.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbjYZ7dV8Pg



Regards.

Before Alex Jones , how many even knew about the death of compassion ceremony ??? Molek , or the build-a-burgerking meetings of the CFR , TLC , etc ??? ehh ??? I swerved into something funny , burgerking , the masses going to a food bank run by an imaginary man wearing a crown , the people needing food for daily survival ... ha ha build-a-burgers = he laughs hard , sips Mt. Dew , and stretches , it's going to be a great day ...

Someone pointed out to me that my post was not real clear and after reading it again,, I agree..

I listen to Alex as often as I can, and I am impressed with his dedication and commitment. I think he is genuine and his heart is definitely in it.. I like him quite a bit, actually.. (I wont take the 'super male elixer', lol.)

Jake.

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Hello, I have serious doubts about the integrity of Alex Jones because of three things. He is always acting like he is full of anger when he is talking about this conspiracy and that makes our anger grow, if you have anger you can't think.
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What do you think?

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Anyone who can fake that kind of anger (and many other emotions!) deserves to be earning $5 million per Hollywood blockbuster, and winning a cabinet full of Oscars. :)

I listen to him regularly... in Myers-Briggs (MBTI) terms he's a very high-volume, off-the-scale, ENFP. In my strong view, he's unquestionably authentic. A better radio show presenter in his team may actually be Paul Joseph Watson (professional, detailed, personable and superb) — but Alex is doing more than anyone else to wake people up. For that, he has my deep appreciation.

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What do you think about David Icke?

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Why do you ask? :)

I count David as a friend, and have spent quite a lot of time with him (including three weeks 24/7 in South Africa in 2010, when I got to know him really well).

He is totally authentic (also) — passionate, driven, and 100% sincere in everything he does.

I watched/listened to AJ in the beginning of his late night access tv show. His energy/demeanor was exactly like today. Perhaps, even more so. The callers made jokes and slandered his message for years. He kept going, regardless. I saw the change- eventually -from the public in receiving the messages.
AJ was the person with a bullhorn yelling at Presidente Fox of Mexico as he drove to the Govenor's mansion. Gossip was Presidente Fox said he would have had AJ killed in his country for such an act.
Of course Bohemian Grove is well documented.
He helped open eyes in the early days. For this he gets my respect.
His anger etc does not get my attention as I cannot focus on the message any longer. That's my problem.

PS It has been 15 years since this type message has been brought to the public attention. Fifteen yearssssssssssss. Have we grown?
Thanks to Alex Jones, David Icke and the many others (who's lives were in danger simply for speaking their truth) who aired on access tv in Austin, Tx when no one else would.

I find David's biblio-forensic work impressive.



Regards.

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Doing a quick advanced search on threads with the word "Alex Jones" in the title, I find that there are 100 threads here about Alex Jones. I find this thread cryptic with the tag line... So what do ya'll think of Alex Jones? Or David Icke?

They are messengers. Their message is muddled at times and their delivery and the personalities behind the delivery are just them. But we need to safeguard against shooting the messengers and losing the message, and this seems to be a propensity in the alternative media these days.

Michael Tellinger is being attacked, by Alfred Weber and Credo Mutwa is being dragged into the fray. It is about creating divisiveness and trying to discredit those who stood up and spoke the truth when it was not cool to do so. Would you rather they just shoot him like they did to Bill Cooper? Should we write Bill Ryan off because he once explored Scientology 40 years ago, and close down Avalon? Who else should we go after? Where do we apply grace, understanding and empathy as we trek through the muddy waters of truth?

When you go to a smorgasbord, no one tells you that you have to eat everything that is offered. Take what is useful to your own awakening and leave the rest. Let others take from the smorgasbord what they choose without judging them for their taste. The alt media is this smorgasbord.

We need to find our common ground and intention that which unites us, and focus on bringing balance to the discourse and unity to our consciousness.

If you have a problem with the messenger or their style, I suggest you find someone else to learn from. There are many. Mike Passio, Michael Tsarion, Santos Bonacci, to name just a few. If some of what they say does not fit into your belief structure, then set it aside in a box called "check this out later" when it does become more resonant, as you take in more information and collate it into synthesis. This is how we awaken, this is how we learn.

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What do you think about David Icke?

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Why do you ask? :)

I count David as a friend, and have spent quite a lot of time with him (including three weeks 24/7 in South Africa in 2010, when I got to know him really well).

He is totally authentic (also) — passionate, driven, and 100% sincere in everything he does.

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Because he believe that he is the son of god. What he means?

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What do you think about David Icke?

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Why do you ask? :)

I count David as a friend, and have spent quite a lot of time with him (including three weeks 24/7 in South Africa in 2010, when I got to know him really well).

He is totally authentic (also) — passionate, driven, and 100% sincere in everything he does.

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Because he believe that he is the son of god. What he means?

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I think it was a kind of metaphor. He had had a very powerful personal experience, and had absolutely no idea how to express it.

That came from his famous British TV interview with Terry Wogan in April 1991. Nearly 24 years later, now David is able to express his views and his intense internal experiences in a much more sophisticated, articulate (and useful!) way.