A new Mars witness, never published (and a real one this time)

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Hi, Everyone:

When looking through some archives this morning searching for something else, I stumbled on some fascinating details of a Mars witness that no-one has ever heard of. Believe it or not, I'd quite forgotten about it.

He'd been referred to us by friend and researcher Bill Hamilton in September 2007, who had extensive correspondence with him (and even an audio interview, which I do not have). There's a lot of detail. Kerry and I had tried to contact him, but failed. Things were so hectic in Camelot days that this was one thing we never took further. I will try to contact him again.

The information has never been published. I'll redact his personal details (I have his full name, address, e-mail, phone number, wife's and brother's names, and even his ham radio call sign). Everything else will be verbatim. I'll call him RDW.

Here's what I heard from Bill Hamilton, on 26 September, 2007:

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Bill,

As you know I interviewed many interesting whistle blowers over the last 25 years or so.

One of them was _________ [name given: 'RDW' from now on in this post] who I've lost contact with. He worked as a pilot and engineer in reverse-engineered craft. One of these he flew to the moon and another he flew to Mars in 96 hours to a manned base underground.

I have a taped recording of his description. At the time I knew it was an extraordinary and unprovable claim and I told few about this.

RDW is a brilliant, prolific very intense and hard working physicist with unusual focus and insight. He received his doctorate in 1976 in theoretical physics following his receiving his BS in aerospace engineering in 1973 and was requested to join the Air Force where he continued his studies along with his special and highly classified assignments.

He worked for the US Air Force Systems Command, Aeronautical Engineering Division (Wright-Patterson AFB, OH) for 7 years and then after resigning, co-started several very successful high-technology businesses, focusing on new product design and automation in the computer industry.

After an extremely successful career, he retired in 1989 to raise his 2 adopted children with his wife [name given but redacted in this post] where they live a quiet and secluded life near their children's school.

Now, here is the rub. He knew retired General William Miller, who I talked to over the phone... and General Miller knew RDW.

Gen. Miller worked out at Area S9 (Nellis AFB) on the black projects in the late 70s. He knows RDW, who worked out there during the same period. He said there were 5 levels underground at Groom Lake - that is where most of the "stuff" is kept.

He said he heard about 90% has been moved to Australia since the UFO buffs started going out there. Also knew Bill Uhouse who worked on the flying saucer simulators.

He said that all projects were so compartmentalized that all of them only had pieces of the puzzle. Believes he and others are dying of radiation-induced tumors (perhaps ELF). Said the military-industrial-intelligence complex is more powerful than our representative government.

A government outside of the government was spun out during the Nixon-era, but he believes he started with Ike. Also J. Edgar Hoover was a king-pin. All clearances given by FBI.

He joked about a clearance known as TOD (Threat of Death). Knows they have been able to shift the frequency of time. There is a covert space program.

I mentioned that a Colonel Miller (no relation) said we had a base on the moon. He has heard this, but has no first-hand knowledge. (from my UFOGATE notes)

Bill Hamilton
AstroScience Research Network
http://www.astrosciences.info

Bill Hamilton later wrote, on 29 December, 2007:

Bill.

As I have said before I have had an informant who had been to the Mars Colony and, recently, a correspondent named Ron managed to link up with him in the hopes of getting more info, but the informant is again hard to reach. RDW worked on reverse engineering of advanced propulsion systems. He is an Aerospace Engineer and physicist. He won't answer his email.

Maybe you could give it a go and try to persuade him to do a video interview for posterity. Here is the latest contact info I have for him:

[Full name, address, phone number, e-mail, brother's name and phone number given — and from that I (Bill Ryan) was able to look up in public records, verify the details, and even find his ham radio call sign.]

Bill Hamilton
AstroScience Research Network
http://www.astrosciences.info

I wrote the following letter, after an e-mail was not returned, and his phone was not answered. But we never heard from him.

Dear __________ ,

We have been given your contact details by our good friend Bill Hamilton, who has told us a little about your testimony to him that you know a good deal from personal experience about the present-time Earth-Mars connection. (And that may be a euphemism indeed!)

If you have not heard of us and our work, please take a moment to visit www.projectcamelot.org. We publish in-depth interviews with credible whistleblowers (one or two of them anonymous or otherwise fully disguised if requested) and make them freely available on the internet. We are widely respected and pretty well-connected in the UFO community. Our interviewees have included Bill Hamilton, Bill Holden, Jim Sparks, Dan Sherman, Dan Burisch, Bob Dean, Clifford Stone, David Wilcock, Richard Hoagland and quite a few others, a couple of whom have requested full anonymity.

One source, ‘Henry Deacon’ (a pseudonym) – a very talented physicist and electronics specialist who has worked in black projects for many years in a variety of locations – has himself spent time on Mars and presents a detailed, credible story. See www.projectcamelot.org/livermore_physicist_4.html for details.

In essence, Henry traveled to the Mars colony on several occasions (the largest one, which he states has a population of 670,000, thought the numbers have apparently waxed and waned over time) – using what he described as ‘jumproom’ technology.

He explained that a ‘jumproom’ is a device like an elevator. One enters a small room, the metal doors close, the doors open again, and “you walk out into a different place”. As he said, you can even go to Mars for lunch.

He knew of the alternative space program but he always ‘jumped’ there rather than traveling in a physical craft. Interestingly, he was adamant that the alternative space program must not be stopped as he firmly believed that its intentions were beneficial, whatever the methods used to maintain secrecy. He was adamant that there was just too much at stake and the continuation of the program must not be jeopardized.

We understand and genuinely sympathize with this, but also believe that the human race has a right to know its situation, the threats that face it, the problems and solutions, our friends and foes, our history and possible destiny. Because our commitment is to the truth, and to be responsible about communicating that, this is why we have taken the liberty of contacting you directly.

If you would like to meet or otherwise communicate in any way, we would be happy to do this under any conditions of confidentiality you might stipulate. We never publish personal details (or personal testimony) without a full clearance from the witness concerned.

If you have any information that you might consider might beneficially be made public, there are a variety of ways this might be done – ranging from an anonymous, sanitized e-mail Q and A interview on the one hand to an on-camera interview on the other (with or without audio or video disguise). Other possibilities are to do a genuine interview and then transcribe it and destroy (or let you have) the original tapes. We could essentially do this in whatever way you wished.

We’re based in LA, but are happy to travel to ______ …or could meet anywhere else you specify.

With our warmest regards to you,

Bill and Kerry
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Bill Ryan and Kerry Cassidy
PROJECT CAMELOT
www.projectcamelot.org

Guess what ? The Anglo Saxon mission and Jump room to Mars are the two most
camelot/Avalon interviews I have watched over to date. So I am going to play it
again now....


JUMPROOM TO MARS

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=VMwJmIRF7ZE

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Yes. A 'Jumproom' was MY name for it (which prompted Henry to nod in agreement at the term, when I came up with it). It was never formally used on the 'inside', though Andy Basiago has adopted the term and often refers to it in his presentations.

Later, Henry stated (to Kerry, myself and also to David Wilcock) that it's actually called 'The Corridor'.

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There's another story I should tell (and a contact I should try to pick up again). One time in 2007/2008 (I would need to look it up, but I have it all archived) Kerry and I both had flu, and were also on the road. It was a tough few weeks.

After that hectic period was all over, I was searching for something in my e-mails, and saw to my horror that there was an e-mail I'd missed.

It was from someone who was ASKING to be interviewed, who had been recommended for the Nobel Prize in Physics, had worked with Majestic on antigravity, and knew all about the Moon Bases. He said that Project Horizon was fully operational.

I wrote back to him immediately, but he, too, never replied, We'd missed him. He'd been willing to go on video. :facepalm:

My guess was that his e-mail to us had been intercepted and he'd been ordered not to talk. One has to act fast.

These people do exist, and the programs do exist. But they are NOT allowed to talk.

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Kerry and I both had flu, and were also on the road. It was a tough few weeks.

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I can remember Henry Deacon saying he used vit, D3 as he did not go outside
a great deal and it helped prevent colds and flew. I do take them from time
to time and will do more during the winter months.

I know these are not new vids but they do give a lot of the basic information that
Bill and Kerry discovered in the early days, about Mars and other related topics.
Just in case new members or viewers have not seen them and definitely worth a
recap if you have not watched them lately......


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Henry Deacon at Zurich Conference, A New World, if you can take it

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=pSOQHlG6CPQ

Introduction by Bill Ryan of Henry Deacon to the public during a talk from Brian
O´Leary on alternative sources of energy such as Cold Fusion and the Casamir Force.

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Gabriele Stähler on Vitamin D3, with Bill Ryan : a Project Camelot interview
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HH1rB-Ya2UQ

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This is a bit 'showbizzy' like Ancient Aliens , Alien Hunters or Jess Ventura but
fun..LOL and is a shame it was not commissioned.

SHADOW OPERATIONS : PROJECT CAMELOT TV PILOT 2009

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=QEABiQafNqo

Published on 31 Mar 2015

This video has gone viral in the last few years. I am posting it here on the Camelot
Channel where it belongs. This was the pilot for our TV series that was never made.

Behind the scenes info on what really happened on the making of our PILOT:
SHADOW OPERATIONS: THE MARS PROJECT...
is available here: http://projectcamelotportal.com/blog/...

Bob Dean e Henry Deacon 6 Disclosure Project em Barcelona

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=yC0iKSAmE00

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Uploaded on 29 Dec 2010


Project Camelot was invited to the Barcelona Exopolitics Summit
July 23-26th 2009. During our time there we filmed a Project
Camelot Futuretalk with Henry Deacon, Alfred Webre and Bob Dean.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=X1Sw8yutI1Y

Uploaded on 29 Dec 2010

Project Camelot was invited to the Barcelona Exopolitics Summit July 23-26th
2009. During our time there we filmed a Project Camelot Futuretalk with
Henry Deacon, Alfred Webre and Bob Dean.

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Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=xQ-jtO1NHR4

Bill, I seriously wonder if those whistle-blowers who haven't answered met with an accident. If you know what I mean. Why do some get eliminated, while others are ignored?

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I stumbled on some fascinating details of a Mars witness that no-one has ever heard of. Believe it or not, I'd quite forgotten about it.

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Very glad you stumbled on Bill :)

'The Jump-Room' is a great name Bill, in relation to the subject of Mars and secrete space tech it's quite an iconic naming
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as an official name is very intriguing and maybe enlightening as to the experience of using it! Travelling along it Hmm!

Reading your full post now.

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Yes. A 'Jumproom' was MY name for it (which prompted Henry to nod in agreement at the term, when I came up with it). It was never formally used on the 'inside', though Andy Basiago has adopted the term and often refers to it in his presentations.

Later, Henry stated (to Kerry, myself and also to David Wilcock) that it's actually called 'The Corridor'.

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The corridor, as it would be like, in my quick estimation.. a paired set of human sized yellowbooks, (cube) that one steps into, and is, er, moved...to the other location. It is probably disorienting. It could even, in probability (pun intended) move to an alternate universe, IMO, if properly paired for that aspect.

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Bill, I seriously wonder if those whistle-blowers who haven't answered met with an accident. If you know what I mean. Why do some get eliminated, while others are ignored?

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I think (but do not know) that some were warned never to talk at an earlier stage — before they were contacted by any researcher — and others are contacted at the time, warning them not to respond. I don't think they're 'disappeared', as long as they're obedient, as it were, and stay quiet, as per their Non-Disclosure Agreement.

Regarding why some are killed and others are just warned (and this seems to be the case)... my guess is that the decisions are compartmentalized: i.e. made by different agencies or different project heads. And some are more vindictive (or, maybe, simply more 'old school') than others.

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Yes. A 'Jumproom' was MY name for it (which prompted Henry to nod in agreement at the term, when I came up with it). It was never formally used on the 'inside', though Andy Basiago has adopted the term and often refers to it in his presentations.

Later, Henry stated (to Kerry, myself and also to David Wilcock) that it's actually called 'The Corridor'.

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The corridor, as it would be like, in my quick estimation.. a paired set of human sized yellowbooks, (cube) that one steps into, and is, er, moved...to the other location. It is probably disorienting. It could even, in probability (pun intended) move to an alternate universe, IMO, if properly paired for that aspect.

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Mr eric Dollard ion his vid 'The truth about Electricity' states that the equations of some scientists/mathematicians all the way back in the (Think it was 1930's) looked like, if developed properly could lead to a 'jump Room, jump chair, corridor'.
It was concerning Pulse-Electricity deceives, where by standing under one deceive you simultaneously stood under 2 devices at the same time (2 places at once) Leave the desired device (Destination) on and that is where you would be, totally physically!

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Mr Eric Dollard in his vid 'The truth about Electricity' states that the equations of some scientists/mathematicians all the way back in the (Think it was 1930's) looked like, if developed properly could lead to a 'jump Room, jump chair, corridor'.
It was concerning Pulse-Electricity deceives, where by standing under one deceive you simultaneously stood under 2 devices at the same time (2 places at once) Leave the desired device (Destination) on and that is where you would be, totally physically!

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Yes. Ben Rich, the former head of the Lockheed Skunk Works, said shortly before he died:

"We now know how to travel to the stars, and it doesn’t take a lifetime to do it. There was an error in the equations, and we found it.”

Bassagio also stated Barack Obama was also part of jump room program through his maternal Grandfather.

While I would say that there are grounds for believing that there are three small human bases on Mars, I find it difficult to accept that there is a population of upwards of 600,000. A total Mars base population of say 100 or 200 would be more likely, with 1,000 to 2,000 being the upper limit. The strain of the Earth's economy and resources to maintain such would be enormous, even if one would be utilizing technology left over from previous civilization/s. I think that there is a serious case for an econometric study here. Another point, some anthropologists would argue that human nature being what it is, if a human community goes over a certain population mark say 100, usually factions start to develop. If so, matters would have taken their natural course of action and some factions would have attempted to contact Earth independently of official control.

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While I would say that there are grounds for believing that there are three small human bases on Mars, I find it difficult to accept that there is a population of upwards of 600,000. A total Mars base population of say 100 or 200 hundred would be more likely, with 1,000 to 2,000 being the upper limit. The strain of the Earth's economy and resources to maintain such would be enormous, even if one would be utilizing technology left over from previous civilization/s. I think that there is a serious case for an econometric study here. Another point, some anthropologists would argue that human nature being what it is, if a human community goes over a certain population mark say 100, usually factions start to develop. If so, matters would have taken their natural course of action and some factions would have attempted to contact Earth independently of official control.

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Hi MalteseKnight, you wrote
'the strain of the Earth's economy and resources to maintain such would be enormous, even if one would be utilizing technology left over from previous civilization/s.'

We have absolutely no idea as to the capabilities of any possible Alien tech that could be being used!

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Bassagio also stated Barack Obama was also part of jump room program through his maternal Grandfather.

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Yes. I consider this absurd. I referenced that here, when discussing The Ruiner's claim that he had trained Vladimir Putin, when The Ruiner (Shane) was aged 13.

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While I would say that there are grounds for believing that there are three small human bases on Mars, I find it difficult to accept that there is a population of upwards of 600,000. A total Mars base population of say 100 or 200 would be more likely, with 1,000 to 2,000 being the upper limit.

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Yes, it's a huge number! But Henry said that only a proportion of those were Earth-human.

Thanks Bill for this! The story appeared truthful and it's great to have these kinds of puzzle pieces to work with.

One thing that got my attention was how both of these guys had probably done quite extensive work out at S9 for many years at a probably rather high clearance level, yet both of them only knew fractions and could not really put together the bigger picture.

It's quite scary that people at this level, knowing what they know (e.g. that underground bases exist on Mars etc.), still have no clue on what's really going on. This in combination with the lost 2.3 trillion USD tells us that the force that is deceiving the planet runs something incredibly vast and incredibly hidden.

Every day now I am thinking more and more that this group of international elite might be slaves that operate under foreign unearthly control to carry out some kind of dark agenda for some dark race, that there is some kind of spiritual battle playing out where the dark forces represent this military industrial intelligence complex, that is carrying out its missions through deception, secrets, lies, murder, sacrifices and other cruel stuff. There has to be a very dynamite reason for why a force wants to compartmentalize down to this level. And of course this is beyond the control of the governments, I am quite convinced of that. Keeping the government out of awareness is as easy as not to document a clearance level, not to reveal its operations facilities/locations/coordinates, not to reveal who is working on it etc. We have to by default assume someone at some point took that route. That 2.3 trillion USD funneled untracable money could be the best evidence of that - it went into the black world, but nobody has an answer to exactly where it went. And with that amount of money you can do a lot...

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Thanks Bill for this! The story appeared truthful and it's great to have these kinds of puzzle pieces to work with.

One thing that got my attention was how both of these guys had probably done quite extensive work out at S9 for many years at a probably rather high clearance level, yet both of them only knew fractions and could not really put together the bigger picture.

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Yes: there's an important point here. No-one knows everything. Their superiors make absolutely sure of that.

That alone discredits Corey Goode's many stories about just about everything one can imagine. No-one would have that clearance, not even MJ-1, the Head of Majestic.

Shane (The Ruiner)'s situation is different, but contains parallels. When Charles initially contacted me and was leveling with me about what he knew, before he was 'taken back' a few months later, he was at pains to stress that he had really only just overheard this and that, and was not even interested personally in some of the information and therefore had not retained it. So his caveat right at the front was that what he could report was not in ANY way complete. He often simply did not know stuff when I asked him.

Whistleblowers have come out of deep silos, where they can see what's around them but not a lot else. I talked personally with a physicist who had worked at Bell Labs on exotic technology. When walking from one room to another, he would have to wear special goggles that blurred his vision apart from a couple of feet around him, enough to not bump into things, and be able to card-swipe and open doors. He walked on painted 'tramway' lines on the floor. (Interestingly, that protocol was later independently confirmed by controversial witness Dan Burisch.)

Moral of the story here? People are NOT meant to see ANYTHING they're not personally involved in... in case they talk later.

I'm sceptical about the real anonymity offered by Audio ( and probably video ) disguising. My guess is that some of those people you've offered it to know enough to know that it's not reliable. Plus, as you say, intercepts would quickly put the bad boys on their trail.

I've experimented with re processing disguised voice interviews I've found on Youtube and been quite successful at returning them to approximately normal voices again. I've got no doubt that the governments can easily do this. I'm therefore quite sure a potential whistleblower with the sort of education and experience they'd have, would also not only turn their nose up at using that method, but actually wonder how smart the guy making the offer could really be, to have suggested it in the first place. That's not a great dig at you Bill, most of us ordinary people are slow to catch onto such weaknesses in our plans even though the intended interviewee will spot it in a heart beat.

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I'm sceptical about the real anonymity offered by Audio ( and probably video ) disguising. My guess is that some of those people you've offered it to know enough to know that it's not reliable.

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No, audio disguising isn't reliable. A filtered voice can be 'unfiltered' and restored to normal, with a bit of clever wizardry that most good audio engineers would know. (A blurred video could NOT be unblurred, though, after it was rendered and exported.)

Update on the RDW info on post #1: I let Kerry know straight away, and she has just replied:

Hi Bill,

Good catch... I sent Bill Hamilton an email letting him know you want to get in touch.

I do remember the name… didn’t remember the whole details.

Let me know what happens. I would love to interview RDW if you find him.

Best wishes,

Kerry

My impression is that most of the infrastructure on Mars dates to the Atlantean period, i.e high technology in terms of the manipulation of say the crystalline properties of matter, but not much else. Andrew Basiago in his interviews himself appears to hint towards this state of affairs. There was a different socio-economic cultural base to the society. They based their technology on what they saw in nature around them, and the technology was not well distributed among the population. So basically the Atlanteans were basically a stone age society with only a small shaman-like elite having access to high technology, with pre Vedic Sanskrit being the lingwa franka. Thus, an Atlantean airplane would look very much like a bird. The Atlanteans could put a man on Mars, but couldn't mass produce a teapot, very much like the South American civilizations such as the Maya being unable to adopt the concept of the wheel, despite having exquisite knowledge of astronomy. We seem to forget that modern mass production only started with the British opening a naval biscuit factory. What I suspect is that some really heavy genetic experimentation took place on Mars with say human DNA being fused in with say a slug's DNA to produce a hybrid. This is indicated too by Basiago in his interviews if one follows very carefully. With these weird hybrids still wandering around on the surface, as described by Basiago, it is no wonder that Mars is something of a forbidden planet.

Aleister Crowley used to say that all the secrets of the world are encoded in Lewis Caroll's Alice in Wonderland and he was damn correct. In a certain part of the book a baby is turned into a piglet. Human DNA was inserted into wild boars and piglets were the result. Smile when you eat bacon as you are eating the result of Atlantean technology.:sun:

Andrew Basiago's descriptions of what he found on Mars i.e. the Skull Portals/exit come very eerily close as to what is depicted in the 2002 Time Machine movie projection of the future. This is a way of very discretely providing disclosure in plain sight. Vide the part near the end of the film. Unfortunately, I can only provide the film clip below, one would have to see the original movie in full.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=o8byJ7Dzqns

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Thanks Bill for this! The story appeared truthful and it's great to have these kinds of puzzle pieces to work with.

One thing that got my attention was how both of these guys had probably done quite extensive work out at S9 for many years at a probably rather high clearance level, yet both of them only knew fractions and could not really put together the bigger picture.

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Yes: there's an important point here. No-one knows everything. Their superiors make absolutely sure of that.

That alone discredits Corey Goode's many stories about just about everything one can imagine. No-one would have that clearance, not even MJ-1, the Head of Majestic.

Shane (The Ruiner)'s situation is different, but contains parallels. When Charles initially contacted me and was leveling with me about what he knew, before he was 'taken back' a few months later, he was at pains to stress that he had really only just overheard this and that, and was not even interested personally in some of the information and therefore had not retained it. So his caveat right at the front was that what he could report was not in ANY way complete. He often simply did not know stuff when I asked him.

Whistleblowers have come out of deep silos, where they can see what's around them but not a lot else. I talked personally with a physicist who had worked at Bell Labs on exotic technology. When walking from one room to another, he would have to wear special goggles that blurred his vision apart from a couple of feet around him, enough to not bump into things, and be able to card-swipe and open doors. He walked on painted 'tramway' lines on the floor. (Interestingly, that protocol was later independently confirmed by controversial witness Dan Burisch.)

Moral of the story here? People are NOT meant to see ANYTHING they're not personally involved in... in case they talk later.

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To me this behavior of controlling and limiting the awareness of people being "somewhat" near the truth, indicates that the people behind all of this, take advantage of the skills of the workers and probably lie to the workers about why the workers even do what they do. This elite group lets people live a complete lie to serve their masters, and this elite knows about that being the case, yet protect it and ensures it is kept at the greatest level of secrecy.

I am wondering how many aces in the sleeve does Bill Ryan have :-)

Does he have any proof, that you know of Bill?


Can I ask, do you have a series of 'litmus test's' that you apply to any potential whistle blower, or is it more a case of cross-referencing what is being relayed against other sources?

Many thanks.



Regards.

Hi. Excellent discussion. Bill wrote, "No-one knows everything. Their superiors make absolutely sure of that."
Well, if some "superior" is deciding who down the line doesn't know everything, somebody, somewhere does indeed know everything...or a quite a bit more.

Who's deciding who is allowed to know what?

Matt

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Yes: there's an important point here. No-one knows everything. Their superiors make absolutely sure of that.

That alone discredits Corey Goode's many stories about just about everything one can imagine. No-one would have that clearance, not even MJ-1, the Head of Majestic.

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I don’t think Corey has ever claimed to know “everything”. David Wilcock is certainly enthusiastic about Corey’s range of knowledge, but that’s David’s claim, not Corey’s. As Rumsfeld famously said: There are [still] unknown unknowns.

Much of Corey’s range of broader knowledge is derived, according to Corey himself, from his access to the so-called “smart glass pads”, which were given to him to read as a pre-adolescent to keep his conscious mind occupied while he was on duty as a Intuitive Empath. He has been careful in his testimony to distinguish clearly between his personal experiences, and matters that he read about via this technology.

Remember, as well, that his superiors fully expected to wipe his memory of his entire 20 year service before returning him to his earth-based timeline here. This memory-wipe failed in Corey’s case, as it apparently has with some other Mars 20-and-Back victims.

And remember that these kids were given enhanced memory and learning capacities as part of the Moonshadow program. They could learn a lot quite freely – and needed to - since the future utility of that information within the SSP itself was incalculable. They had to be “stuffed” with knowledge, by any means possible.

So, at the time, they had no reason to restrict his off-world use of the glass pad on future secrecy grounds. And Corey has also said that the neural interface of the pad would automatically limit your information access to your personal neural capacity.

If Corey was anything like me at that age, I can fully appreciate his interest in ancient history and galactic life. If I’d had that pad, I’d have devoured it.

The very existence of these smart glass pads was recently inadvertently confirmed by another putative insider, who referred to them by another name. If that individual’s credentials can be confirmed, he would plausibly be in a position to know of this.

It may seem counterintuitive to give someone a mental distraction when they are expected to focus on something else more sensitive, but it is not. This is entirely plausible, but not many people would understand why. I can, however, personally vouch for this “alpha wave distraction” technique as a benign facilitator of deeper theta and gamma brain waves – the frequencies that enhance psychic sensitivity in a trained observer. When astrologers focus on the image of someone’s chart, or clairvoyants on the interior of a crystal, they are using the same principle to draw on wider fractal information.

So: Corey clearly knows a lot that “they” didn’t expect him to remember. But that certainly doesn’t mean he knows everything.

Regards,

Selene

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Bassagio also stated Barack Obama was also part of jump room program through his maternal Grandfather.

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Yes. I consider this absurd. I referenced that here, when discussing The Ruiner's claim that he had trained Vladimir Putin, when The Ruiner (Shane) was aged 13.

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While I would say that there are grounds for believing that there are three small human bases on Mars, I find it difficult to accept that there is a population of upwards of 600,000. A total Mars base population of say 100 or 200 would be more likely, with 1,000 to 2,000 being the upper limit.

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Yes, it's a huge number! But Henry said that only a proportion of those were Earth-human.

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Unlimited energy brings about the aspect or potential for unlimited expansion.

recall the recent line about finding open water on Mars, this means underground aquifers would also be near 100% likely. This means aquifers the size of Kansas. Literally.

Unlimited energies and proper resource access, does tend to add up to fairly large populations being emergent in a few short decades.

This comes from thoughts from you post Bill and Cidersomerset s vid and the Jumproom topic:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=VMwJmIRF7ZE

Please try to read all the below text, both on the
Magnetics/Bases and
Time Travel/Space programme subjects

So Just some thoughts:

Magnetics/Bases.
Human beings are attuned to Earth's magnetic field strength
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth%27s_magnetic_field
, so living on other heavenly bodies such as the Moon, Mars ect with far less Mag strength would cause problems!
So if bases exist it would be beneficial to be in areas of the most Mag strengths!

Reports of Moons BASES are said to be on the far side! and much interest in the Tycho (crater) in the lower south!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tycho_(crater)
an area of the Moon saide to have a higher mag strength.

Mars' current magnetic field is very weak, with strengths of at most about 1500 nanotesla. Earth's, by comparison, varies up to around 65000 nanotesla, or more than 40 times stronger than Mars'.

Mars BASES should then be in the South where there is a Mag field strength, and very little in the North!
Mars magnetic field is stronger in the Southern hemisphere, but overall has very little in the way of a detectable magnetic field!
Why is only half of Mars magnetized?
http://www.planetary.org/blogs/emily....google.co.uk/

Of cause though, if there was technology to compensate it wouldn't matter!!


Time-Travel/Secrete-Space-Programme

The-Jumproom, The-Corridor, Teleportation!
It's of my understanding that Time past, time present and Time future are all one and the same.
So is it 'Space' that is the import, meaningful factor?

I'm of the understanding that the Jumproom works like this:
2 switched on devices in different places, stand under one and you are under the other at the same time! then turn off the one where you don't won't to be and you are at the other which is still switched on. You are in both places at the same time, so it's not time travel related, it's SPACE/Position related!

All matter is one Atom which is everywhere at the same time (no time)

In the above mention vid there was a part talking about Time-Travel, in that item Arthur C Clark was then said to say something like 'Yes we do have a secrete space programme'
He didn't say 'Secrete Time Travel programme' !

So if I heard it right it got me thinking:
The word 'SPACE 'in 'Secrete-Space-Programme' could literally mean space as in Coordinates/Position and not space as in Outer-Space where other planets and stars are!

'Jumprooms' could now be 'Jumpships' etc, they would certainly be faster than light ha!

anti-gravity is inherently gravity negating which is inherently time negating (separating/shifting), which is inherently dimensional-dislocational.

As is all over-unity science, at the atomic level.

same-same, all of them.

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Yes: there's an important point here. No-one knows everything. Their superiors make absolutely sure of that.

That alone discredits Corey Goode's many stories about just about everything one can imagine. No-one would have that clearance, not even MJ-1, the Head of Majestic.

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I don’t think Corey has ever claimed to know “everything”. David Wilcock is certainly enthusiastic about Corey’s range of knowledge, but that’s David’s claim, not Corey’s. As Rumsfeld famously said: There are [still] unknown unknowns.

Much of Corey’s range of broader knowledge is derived, according to Corey himself, from his access to the so-called “smart glass pads”, which were given to him to read as a pre-adolescent to keep his conscious mind occupied while he was on duty as a Intuitive Empath. He has been careful in his testimony to distinguish clearly between his personal experiences, and matters that he read about via this technology.

Remember, as well, that his superiors fully expected to wipe his memory of his entire 20 year service before returning him to his earth-based timeline here. This memory-wipe failed in Corey’s case, as it apparently has with some other Mars 20-and-Back victims.

And remember that these kids were given enhanced memory and learning capacities as part of the Moonshadow program. They could learn a lot quite freely – and needed to - since the future utility of that information within the SSP itself was incalculable. They had to be “stuffed” with knowledge, by any means possible.

So, at the time, they had no reason to restrict his off-world use of the glass pad on future secrecy grounds. And Corey has also said that the neural interface of the pad would automatically limit your information access to your personal neural capacity.

If Corey was anything like me at that age, I can fully appreciate his interest in ancient history and galactic life. If I’d had that pad, I’d have devoured it.

The very existence of these smart glass pads was recently inadvertently confirmed by another putative insider, who referred to them by another name. If that individual’s credentials can be confirmed, he would plausibly be in a position to know of this.

It may seem counterintuitive to give someone a mental distraction when they are expected to focus on something else more sensitive, but it is not. This is entirely plausible, but not many people would understand why. I can, however, personally vouch for this “alpha wave distraction” technique as a benign facilitator of deeper theta and gamma brain waves – the frequencies that enhance psychic sensitivity in a trained observer. When astrologers focus on the image of someone’s chart, or clairvoyants on the interior of a crystal, they are using the same principle to draw on wider fractal information.

So: Corey clearly knows a lot that “they” didn’t expect him to remember. But that certainly doesn’t mean he knows everything.

Regards,

Selene

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Maybe this is a stupid question, but here it goes...

If Corey was so valuable with enhanced memory and mind ability why use him for 20 years then toss him back down to this planet, to live in Texas and be in need of web donations to survive?

Wouldn't he be more useful still working for them? I can't see them just wasting an investment.

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If Corey was so valuable with enhanced memory and mind ability why use him for 20 years then toss him back down to this planet, to live in Texas and be in need of web donations to survive?

Wouldn't he be more useful still working for them? I can't see them just wasting an investment.

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Good question. I think the simple answer is just this: That was the program, 20-and-out. That seems to have been the limits of their technology/bureaucracy. Twenty years and we dump you, kiddo.

That doesn't eliminate the possibility that they might control people for longer, but if they were looking at their "data", their "spreadsheet", they might have chosen 20 years as their two-or-three-sigma % probability of success. That is, 99.99% of all subjects would fall within their 20 year spectrum. The few "outliers" could be - in their view - ummm, "eliminated" or "dealt with..." if you gather my meaning.

Corey Goode seems to have gone into four sigmas of outlier here: the survivor. And the "Oh Sp*t!" if you want cockroach-like extermination. No controller expected him to speak sanely. Except that he has. He is a rarity; damaged but still alive. And the Avians - if so -have capitalized on this.

NB: Another reasonably credible whistleblower has recently commented that the wider SSP/Secret Government has "known about the Blue Avians since at least 1950...." So there ya go.....! Another incoming vector of possible support.

I'm just looking at the data here. The stats.

The evidence is at least equivocal. I'm still listening.

Cheers,

Selene

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Thanks Bill for this! The story appeared truthful and it's great to have these kinds of puzzle pieces to work with.

One thing that got my attention was how both of these guys had probably done quite extensive work out at S9 for many years at a probably rather high clearance level, yet both of them only knew fractions and could not really put together the bigger picture.

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Yes: there's an important point here. No-one knows everything. Their superiors make absolutely sure of that.

That alone discredits Corey Goode's many stories about just about everything one can imagine. No-one would have that clearance, not even MJ-1, the Head of Majestic.

Shane (The Ruiner)'s situation is different, but contains parallels. When Charles initially contacted me and was leveling with me about what he knew, before he was 'taken back' a few months later, he was at pains to stress that he had really only just overheard this and that, and was not even interested personally in some of the information and therefore had not retained it. So his caveat right at the front was that what he could report was not in ANY way complete. He often simply did not know stuff when I asked him.

Whistleblowers have come out of deep silos, where they can see what's around them but not a lot else. I talked personally with a physicist who had worked at Bell Labs on exotic technology. When walking from one room to another, he would have to wear special goggles that blurred his vision apart from a couple of feet around him, enough to not bump into things, and be able to card-swipe and open doors. He walked on painted 'tramway' lines on the floor. (Interestingly, that protocol was later independently confirmed by controversial witness Dan Burisch.)

Moral of the story here? People are NOT meant to see ANYTHING they're not personally involved in... in case they talk later.

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To me this behavior of controlling and limiting the awareness of people being "somewhat" near the truth, indicates that the people behind all of this, take advantage of the skills of the workers and probably lie to the workers about why the workers even do what they do. This elite group lets people live a complete lie to serve their masters, and this elite knows about that being the case, yet protect it and ensures it is kept at the greatest level of secrecy.

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The concept of: "A need to know basis" - May be serving it's purpose. Bloody brilliant structure to keep the information that comes out unclear and vague.

Keep ut the good work swede. Always lovely to stand beside fellow countrymen for the truth. / J-nas från norra Sverige.

You also have to consider alternative universes where the large population is residing not in our time or universe. A Mars that is more earth like.

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You also have to consider alternative universes where the large population is residing not in our time or universe. A Mars that is more earth like.

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Very interesting! Thank you for reminding me of that possibility.

Hi Bill, without going into too much info, his initials weren't S.L were they?

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There's another story I should tell (and a contact I should try to pick up again). One time in 2007/2008 (I would need to look it up, but I have it all archived) Kerry and I both had flu, and were also on the road. It was a tough few weeks.

After that hectic period was all over, I was searching for something in my e-mails, and saw to my horror that there was an e-mail I'd missed.

It was from someone who was ASKING to be interviewed, who had been recommended for the Nobel Prize in Physics, had worked with Majestic on antigravity, and knew all about the Moon Bases. He said that Project Horizon was fully operational.

I wrote back to him immediately, but he, too, never replied, We'd missed him. He'd been willing to go on video. :facepalm:

My guess was that his e-mail to us had been intercepted and he'd been ordered not to talk. One has to act fast.

These people do exist, and the programs do exist. But they are NOT allowed to talk.

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Maybe this is a stupid question, but here it goes...

If Corey was so valuable with enhanced memory and mind ability why use him for 20 years then toss him back down to this planet, to live in Texas and be in need of web donations to survive?

Wouldn't he be more useful still working for them? I can't see them just wasting an investment.

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Older people are riskier to work with - less reliably malleable to fit in, conform with, project limitations. Some of them start noticing to much, making connections with prior experiences that put the mission at risk.

For similar reasons, only the most desperate governments recruit older men as infantry soldiers. Ages about 18 to 25, when the full strength of body is not yet matched by a breadth of experience and awareness, are easier and more reliably trained for hand to hand combat.

'Trips to Mars' - William Hamilton - June 1998

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=8pa3ZT6QHjo

Some interesting readings here: R.M. Decker | 35 minutes to Mars

And finally, if you talk about Mars please do not forget Phobos, hint.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=XAAn4vSWWRI

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=iSrddDwvorg

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Maybe this is a stupid question, but here it goes...

If Corey was so valuable with enhanced memory and mind ability why use him for 20 years then toss him back down to this planet, to live in Texas and be in need of web donations to survive?

Wouldn't he be more useful still working for them? I can't see them just wasting an investment.

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Older people are riskier to work with - less reliably malleable to fit in, conform with, project limitations. Some of them start noticing to much, making connections with prior experiences that put the mission at risk.

For similar reasons, only the most desperate governments recruit older men as infantry soldiers. Ages about 18 to 25, when the full strength of body is not yet matched by a breadth of experience and awareness, are easier and more reliably trained for hand to hand combat.

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Right, but at even 30, that isn't old. He was taken I'm assuming as a child and then sent to Mars for 20 years...:Did work for this shadow gov and now is living like a shmoe? Meh. Idk, doesn't work out in my head.

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Maybe this is a stupid question, but here it goes...

If Corey was so valuable with enhanced memory and mind ability why use him for 20 years then toss him back down to this planet, to live in Texas and be in need of web donations to survive?

Wouldn't he be more useful still working for them? I can't see them just wasting an investment.

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Older people are riskier to work with - less reliably malleable to fit in, conform with, project limitations. Some of them start noticing to much, making connections with prior experiences that put the mission at risk.

For similar reasons, only the most desperate governments recruit older men as infantry soldiers. Ages about 18 to 25, when the full strength of body is not yet matched by a breadth of experience and awareness, are easier and more reliably trained for hand to hand combat.

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Right, but at even 30, that isn't old. He was taken I'm assuming as a child and then sent to Mars for 20 years...:Did work for this shadow gov and now is living like a shmoe? Meh. Idk, doesn't work out in my head.

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Yeah... The world would look pretty funny if all the 20 year returnees started selling mugs, aprons and key chains...

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Kerry and I both had flu, and were also on the road. It was a tough few weeks.

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I can remember Henry Deacon saying he used vit, D3 as he did not go outside
a great deal and it helped prevent colds and flew. I do take them from time
to time and will do more during the winter months.

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Yes Cider, vitamin D3 is crucial for the immune system - among lots of other things they don't generally talk about, it's usually just the calcium/bone stuff - about 5 years ago I discovered I had a deficiency of D3 and my doctor put me on large doses for 6 months - well my strength returned (I'm quite a big bloke 6.0 and 14 stone. 'stocky' as they used to say) and I felt literally like a new man! So yes take at least 5,000 IU's per day if you feel you are low-you can safely take up to 10,000 IU's per day they revised it up recently. I have not had a cold or flu since gaining my levels back (honest).