Simon Parkes: Questions of integrity and credibility

Hello Avalonians,

This is an email that Bill received from an outside party, the sender is not a member of Project Avalon. We don't usually post emails of such nature, but we felt that this one brought some much needed perspective to the situation involving Simon Parkes.

The mods and administration feel there are, and should be moral standards for how we humans treat one another, and we have a moral responsibility to uphold those standards. The following email does mention members of Avalon, and the author of the email pulls no punches. This is just an outsiders view, and although it may be harsh... it's point is clearly stated, important and something that the mods by and large agree with to a considerable degree.

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Date: Sat, Sep 3, 2016 at 3:24 PM
Subject: My thoughts on Simon Parkes
To: bill@projectavalon.net


Hello Bill,

I would like to give my opinon on Simon Parkes and the situation that he finds himself in. I have read the threads created by members of the Avalon forum and simply could not sit back any longer without chiming in. I am not a member of the forum, but I do lurk quite frequently.

Firstly let me state that I absolutely feel that Simon is nothing more than a conman and preying on people who are looking for direction and to better themselves. I make zero apologies about this and I want everyone who reads this to know exactly how I feel about this man from the start of this email so they can know where this is going. I have no personal vendetta against him, and I gain absolutely nothing by writing this other than to hopefully help others make their own informed decisions.

There are a few things that really rubbed me the wrong way when reading the threads as well as sitting back and watching everything unfold. Onawah and Agate, holy mother of everything, how blind can some people be? Watching them make excuses for Simon and speak for him was beyond irritating. How two people can turn a blind eye to facts given by a founder of a forum as well as member accounts who have nothing to gain by giving their experiences with Simon, and instead keep questioning the proof and experiences over and over , is amazing and sad to me at the same time.

Onawah in-particular is really the worst. She is obvioulsy being used as a puppet to convey points and debate by someone very close to simon. Which is another very annoying point to bring up. Where is this very outspoken and cocksure enlightened speaker when things get tough? Where is Simon to speak up for himself directly? It is a weak mans path to use others as messengers to avoid accountability.

Lets be honest here folks. The alt community is a very understanding and open minded community. So much so that being so open to looking for the truth hidden in the shadows that sometimes people are blind to the truth right in front of them. Simon makes so many excuses it is uncanny. Everything from not getting emails to dark forces to now ANU being inside him using him , and a huge tower next to his house emitting waves that have confused him and made working almost impossible.

Lets cut the nonsense shall we. We have proof many many people contacted him and he ignored them. He blames his assistants, how convenient. How about that great apology he posted, that was no apology at all. "I apologize for ANU hurting you all, I personally do not apologize for anything I did". Well great. Again, how convenient. And this huge tower, how did he not see them building it? Did they just erect a huge tower next to his flat while he slept one day? And the great ANU, with all Simons powers and abilities, never noticed that there was anything going on and he was being used? But once it was brought to his attention, bam, he realized it, figured out he was around 3-6 years old when it was initiated inside him, and he has completely gotten rid of ANU and now that is that. Dont worry folks, ANU is gone, all is over, you can trust he is in control now and lets just carry on like nothing happened shall we? Convenient.

An apology that is forced by someone else exposing someone is not an apology. It is damage control. Plain and simple. Ask yourself this, if no one outted simon, would he have apologized? Of course not. Nor would he have made up this huge story about it being ANU doing it. Anu would still be on his website and life would be just the same for him.

There is nothing wrong with admitting someone you thought was real is not. I know that it stings a bit to be taken advantage of. But this is life and this is how one grows. We live and learn. Look at "Bill wood" and how vehemently another website and its founder supported him and still to this day have his videos up. Some people do not want to admit they were wrong, and got conned. Some people will argue to the grave instead of just accepting reality and moving forward and shedding the negative person.

I have watched Simons videos for over a year now on and off. Mostly out of an entertaining curiosity. But I always felt that he never was on the level. That he simply was making things up . I also, like other members here, felt he fabricated this new life of his to cover up a very hard childhood. Seriously, what are the chances that this man was chosen at a very young age, by the KING of a race, because his grandfather was possibly the most accomplished agent ever to live. If you listen to Simon tell it, his grandfather continuously won medal after medal and met every high profile person alive. And then his mother just happened to be chosen to deal with super secret materials for reasons simon never actually mentions other than they said she had the qualifications.....what? I suppose if you are going to make up a new life, may as well become royalty, as well as come from super secret impossible to prove or disprove family history.

Guys and Gals, there is a thin line between wanting to believe someone is a whistle blower, and someone who claims to be one while using many fabricated stories, impossible to disprove claims, and plagiarism.. Where are any of the medals his grandfather was awarded? How would he not have those prized possessions? Where are any photos or literally any documents from when his mother was alive to even remotely support his claims. He has nothing to lose by showing them at this point, he has come out as a man who only wants to spread truth. The best he has done to date is show a photo of a computer screen to show literally two words about his grandfather, and a computer rendering of the awards his grandfather supposedly was given. Well, hey, guess thats good enough ...

I have started to veer off topic. Let me get straight back to the point. Simon is a predator. He takes advantage of people. And people like Onawah are enablers. Making comments blaming the victim is sickening. Imagine blaming a rape victim because she went to a friends house in a time of need for comfort and then the friend took advantage of her. Insanity. This is akin to what simon is doing but on a spiritual and emotional level.

I see people claim he isnt a counselor so he shouldnt be held to any standard. I call BS. He offers to help people. He is an energy counselor. A past life counselor . A spiritual counsler. You come up with the label you deem correct on your own. He should be held accountable for his actions like everyone else. Even if it is on a personal level and not professional. He has willingly taken a role of leadership and with that comes responsibilities.

To sum this all up I will again repeat myself and say that Simon is a liar, a predator, an opportunist, and a coward for not taking personal responsibility for what he has done and for letting others speak for him and for hiding behind excuses and lies.

I have no vested interest one way or the other but my personality dictates that in some situations like this one I simply have to speak up and speak my mind. I dislike bullies and I dislike victims being stepped on and victimized a second time even more.

I may be a bit rough around the edges for some of your likings, and my opinion may come across as abrasive but I believe in being matter of fact and not dancing around something as important as this subject.

There comes a point when you stop giving someone the benefit of the doubt and look at the proof and facts and history and make a decision and take a stand one way or the other. I suggest people really think on this. Simon would have you believe you arent educated or enlightened enough to understand everything that goes on on his level and in his life and it isnt possible for you to judge him. Some of his colleagues would ask you to forgive him and give him credit as an enlightened being and think of him as the victim of assaults both verbal and physical , both by humans and aliens alike. Know that they have a vested interest in Simon being cleared and being successful. They have invested years into this man and vouched for him. They are quite biased when asking you all to forgive him.

I again call BS. You all are quite educated and know better. You just are very cordial and dont want to hurt anyones feelings or ruffle feathers.

I enjoy the luxury of not being a member of any groups or forums. I do not mind offending people as long as I truly believe in what I am speaking about. I do not go out of my way to offend people, but it is hard to take a stance against a bully without doing so.

Simon and his followers will undoubtedly assume I am some demon or negative attacker because I dont buy into his nonsense. Convenient. Instead of viewing his nay sayers as educated enlightened humans who simply dont believe him. I do not fear any reprocussions , spiritual or energetic or etc from Simon or any of his followers. I would challenge Simon to actually produce proof of even half the stories he tells. He knows what I say is the truth. I would also challenge him to actually take the time to reply directly to the people who have accused him of wrongdoings himself. With true answers, not smoke and mirrors , misdirection, and lies.

I leave you all with an honest wish for a happy future , and to protect yourselves from people like Simon. This is your own responsibility. No one else is going to always be there to show you the way. Good luck.

*"Bill you have my permission to post this in the Simon thread. If people think I am just a troll or attacker I welcome them to speak directly to me. If I see enough people wanting to contact me I will happily create an email account dedicated for this specific topic. This is a personal email account so I request that this one specifically isnt posted. "

I sincerely hope that others in the alternative community think carefully and follow the lead shown by Avalon in no longer supporting Simon threads.
The management and mods are to be congratulated for the stance they have taken.
Thanks also to who ever sent the e mail above.

Chris

If I could change one thing in the above email, I'd substitute the names with ****** and *****, and PM the original email to them.

RunningDeer ♡

If i could change one thing, i would of liked Bill to make the decision -
Instead of another anonymous (e-mail person) deciding what goes on here at the forum.

This letter would not have been posted unless the Mod's and BR agreed to it.

People need to grow up and stop giving into fantasies and authorities to tell them what is going on in the world.
Stop putting your focus on nonsense.

but if that is your choice, maybe you can find another forum to do that on.

Because at this point you are part of the problem not the solution.


I hate to say this, I do love this forum, but their is a lot of stupid going around here and I don't want to be mean to the newbies but
this really has to stop...

Their are many great teachers out there you can learn from that have done their due diligence and Bill has posted them somewhere on this forum.

(PS, don't kick off this forum please, I will be good from here on out, I promise)

Think this sums up the reason for the decision.

The mods and administration feel there are, and should be moral standards for how we humans treat one another, and we have a moral responsibility to uphold those standards.

Chris

Only the guiltless should be permitted to cast stones - We are told. I dislike hugely the naming of Avalon members by a stranger who's email is timely and backs up someone else's belief, surely we are all doing the best we can with the truth we perceive , Is anyone here all knowing? let us all allow each other space to grow our own way without public humiliation and dissection by stranger. " Now about those moral standards" I would have thought this could be classified as sensitive and not for public view.

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If i could change one thing, i would of liked Bill to make the decision

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Bill and the mods/admins did make this decision. Your insinuation to the contrary is unappreciated and unjustified.

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If i could change one thing, i would of liked Bill to make the decision

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Bill and the mods/admins did make this decision. Your insinuation to the contrary is unappreciated and unjustified.

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Lets say Paul, just hearing from Mr Ryan (directly) would of been more effective and genuine ...

IMO ... :)

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Posted by sheme

Only the guiltless should be permitted to cast stones - We are told.

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Since none of us ordinary humans are guiltless, that would imply that none of us should be permitted to "cast stones", and since explicitly calling out people will be labeled as a "casting of stones" by their defenders, that would imply that none of us should ever call out anyone else, in the view of their defenders.

I stand in opposition to that view.

This is a message I sent to Bill on the 19th August. I have removed a couple of sentences but changed nothing.

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I was right about Simon Parkes. I knew it.

I have made contact with an ex Mil MP who was on duty the day Parkes visited Fylingdales, he was in the guard hut when the town councillors visited. The reality of what happened bears no resemblance to how Parkes reports it.

He is a very dangerous man because people invest emotional energy in what he has to say. ************************ that is the best way I can describe it, in order to take this further. That man is heading for one hell of a reality check.
**************************************************************************** (this sentence was in relation to Kerry Cassidy, although tied-in with this, a separate issue).

I think we have been lying to ourselves too. I think that we have convinced ourselves that we are so switched on that it has made us extremely vulnerable............. How does it go, give someone enough rope?

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I have been privy to some other information, about 6 - 7 weeks ago, when I met a well-known researcher for a few hours when I travelled to the UK. There are others out there who are of the same opinion as most on here regarding Simon Parkes. What some people need to realise is that Simon's MO is very dangerous and causing REAL HARM.

I posted a message to Simon Parkes with the info I have about the guard hut incident at Fylingdales and so far have heard nothing. I have the former Military Policeman's name, number and photograph and heard person-to-person exactly what went on. Very mundane, very ordinary. Any of us here could have a guided tour of Fylingdales if we so wished and with a little organisation and prior notice. You can write to them here:

RAF Fylingdales
Pickering
North Yorkshire
YO18 7NT

It is a fairly common occurrence for civic leaders. There are other aspects of Simon's story, specifically what he says about his Mother, that have also been twisted, added to and re-mixed for Simon's fantasy de jeur.

His information is not even original, in fact, it's not even his. He has plagiarised a member of this very forum as well as a host of others across the internet. His predictions have amounted to nought. His assessments of geo-political situations have been proven, time and time again, to be wrong.

I know that some people are looking for hope. People must realise that WE are that hope. Not some snake-oil salesman.




Regards.

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If i could change one thing, i would of liked Bill to make the decision

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Bill and the mods/admins did make this decision. Your insinuation to the contrary is unappreciated and unjustified.

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Lets say Paul, just hearing from Mr Ryan (directly) would of been more effective and genuine ...

IMO ... :)

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Geo with respect Paula posted links to quite a few posts by Bill regarding Simon--Bill if anything was more vocal than most on his views and the evidence he had to back up these. Bear in mind that there was a lot of support for Simon here--I would say that he betrayed the trust that members had in him---some with personal experience of that.

Best wishes
Chris

Please clarify, Citizen No2 The first part of your post is in quotes and you are saying that is from you, and the second part not in quotes is also what you wrote, correct? So you and the anonymous person have written pretty much identical things about Simon and have contacted (presumably) the same ex-MP at Flyingdales, is that correct?

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This is a message I sent to Bill on the 19th August. I have removed a couple of sentences but changed nothing.

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I was right about Simon Parkes. I knew it.

I have made contact with an ex Mil MP who was on duty the day Parkes visited Fylingdales, he was in the guard hut when the town councillors visited. The reality of what happened bears no resemblance to how Parkes reports it.

He is a very dangerous man because people invest emotional energy in what he has to say. ************************ that is the best way I can describe it, in order to take this further. That man is heading for one hell of a reality check.
**************************************************************************** (this sentence was in relation to Kerry Cassidy, although tied-in with this, a separate issue).

I think we have been lying to ourselves too. I think that we have convinced ourselves that we are so switched on that it has made us extremely vulnerable............. How does it go, give someone enough rope?

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I have been privy to some other information, about 6 - 7 weeks ago, when I met a well-known researcher for a few hours when I travelled to the UK. There are others out there who are of the same opinion as most on here regarding Simon Parkes. What some people need to realise is that Simon's MO is very dangerous and causing REAL HARM.

I posted a message to Simon Parkes with the info I have about the guard hut incident at Fylingdales and so far have heard nothing. I have the former Military Policeman's name, number and photograph and heard person-to-person exactly what went on. Very mundane, very ordinary. Any of us here could have a guided tour of Fylingdales if we so wished and with a little organisation and prior notice. You can write to them here:

RAF Fylingdales
Pickering
North Yorkshire
YO18 7NT

It is a fairly common occurrence for civic leaders. There are other aspects of Simon's story, specifically what he says about his Mother, that have also been twisted, added to and re-mixed for Simon's fantasy de jeur.

His information is not even original, in fact, it's not even his. He has plagiarised a member of this very forum as well as a host of others across the internet. His predictions have amounted to nought. His assessments of geo-political situations have been proven, time and time again, to be wrong.

I know that some people are looking for hope. People must realise that WE are that hope. Not some snake-oil salesman.

It's coming down the pipe for this man.


Regards.

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No onawah.

I wrote the message to Bill on 19th August. As far as I know, and I would say I am correct, I'm the only person to speak to this ex-military policeman. I see nothing in the new message sent to Bill about contacting the soldier on duty that day.

This message that has been sent to Bill that is the O/P, I know nothing about.

It just further proves how a lot of people are feeling. By slowly chipping away at Simon's stories, due diligence, they are starting to be exposed for what they are. Twisted facts and out-and-out lies.

That is my opinion only.

Let me make this crystal clear. I know nothing of this new message sent to Bill by a non-member or who that person is.


Hope that makes it clear.

EDIT: What do you think of all this onawah, if I may ask? I feel for the position you are in, I really do, because I have been in that position too. When I found out that I had been lied to for so long, it hurts, and made me doubt myself more than anything. It made me not trust my own judgement, which was the worst thing.

This is just what I have found out about Simon, with a little digging. It's a free choice World, and it's your choice who you listen to. That aspect, I respect.


Regards.

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If i could change one thing, i would of liked Bill to make the decision

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Bill and the mods/admins did make this decision. Your insinuation to the contrary is unappreciated and unjustified.

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Lets say Paul, just hearing from Mr Ryan (directly) would of been more effective and genuine ...

IMO ... :)

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Effective, genuine, right... I don't know what your problem is but I guess you missed all these posts by Mr. Ryan:

• Post #9
  
• Post #31
  
• Post #79
  
• Post #90
  
• Post #148
  
• Post #196
  
• Post #242
  
• Post #256
  
• Post #258
  
• Post #274
  
• Post #278
  
• Post #292
  
• Post #295
  
• Post #317

(Grateful thanks to RunningDeer for the list.)

The (not on the list) most effective and genuine post Mr. Ryan made, IMO :) was the post describing his reaction upon hearing a recording of Mr. Parkes screaming in rage at a client.

I may be deaf, but I can hear.

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Posted by giovonni

If i could change one thing, i would of liked Bill to make the decision

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Bill and the mods/admins did make this decision. Your insinuation to the contrary is unappreciated and unjustified.

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Lets say Paul, just hearing from Mr Ryan (directly) would of been more effective and genuine ...

IMO ... :)

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Geo with respect Paula posted links to quite a few posts by Bill regarding Simon--Bill if anything was more vocal than most on his views and the evidence he had to back up these. Bear in mind that there was a lot of support for Simon here--I would say that he betrayed the trust that members had in him---some with personal experience of that.

Best wishes
Chris

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Thanks Chris ...

Lets be real here ...

Members and Mods come and go ... But make no mistake it's all Bill Ryan's Forum.

Just a suggestion, the administration might consider a new PR position for it's team.

IMO ... :)

Oops misspelled poster's name.

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Posted by giovonni

If i could change one thing, i would of liked Bill to make the decision -
Instead of another anonymous (e-mail person) deciding what goes on here at the forum.

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As you can see from the date of the e-mail (3 Sept), it was received 4 days ago. I forwarded it to the other mods, and we all discussed the issue for a further several days. We work very much as a well-aligned collective, and it's very rare for me (or anyone!) to make a unilateral decision about anything of magnitude. We're actually pretty careful about this kind of thing.

It should be noted, though, that the personal complaints of course carry far more weight. This was quite a passionate, articulate message, and on balance we thought it was well worth posting, but it was still someone's opinion.

All the other messages received which I've been asked to post have been testimony.

Awesome post
I really enjoyed it. To the chap out there who wrote it, I lift my mug to you. Cheers! :beer:


My personal take that differs in regards to Simon.
I do not think Simon was lying about his abductions. They match so much with what Dr. Karla Turner and Barbara Bartholic talk about in terms of what was recovered using deep regression hypnotherapy in relation to folks who have been abducted by reptilian/grey/mantis types.
In my opinion this makes Simon more dangerous than an everyday con-man or common liar, because I'm afraid his, is an agenda being carried out by negative ET forces intent on broadening their net in terms of harvesting the energy of mankind.
My honest opinion for folks who have had interactions with Simon?
Native Americans here in the US have a practice when one is sick. You use your intuition to find a place where the energy of the earth is conducive with you personally. Then you build a cage out of sticks, a body size cage that lays along the ground horizontally. You get into the cage and have someone cover you well with the soil of mother earth, and you meditate, asking the earth to heal your body and energy body.
The earth absolutely has the power to heal us, physically and energetically.
Good Day to All. :happy dog: :flower:

In a way, I am glad that this matter has been put to rest, but I agree that the OP letter should have been for members only. However, I don't apologize for keeping an open mind about Simon or any other whistleblower who is being accused of various things, when no real tangible proof other than hearsay is being provided of serious wrongdoing.
We all know the elite are desperate to keep information that is unfavorable to them from being spread, and they will go to great lengths to obfuscate the truth and to discredit their detractors.
Just because someone is a member of Avalon doesn't mean that they are infallible, integral or omnipotent, and that certainly holds true for non-members as well.
Contrary to what so many seem to believe, I am not convinced one way or the other about Simon's story or his integrity or motives.
I've experienced a lot of "stranger than fiction" kinds of things in my own life, and as unbelievable as his story may sound to others, I think there's a chance it may be at least partly true.
I also would not surprised if it is all fabricated.
But when your mind is made up and nothing can change it, then there is isn't a lot of opportunity for real proof left to be presented, if it is ever uncovered.
As for Simon's abilities or integrity as a counselor, I have no idea.
I've heard people make both positive statements and negative statements about all kinds of licensed and unlicensed counselors, psychics, channelers, advisors, etc. etc.
It seems to me to be more about finding the right one than expecting a one size fits all, or having any expectations at all--it seems to be pretty much a crap shoot to me.
I would much rather keep my own counsel.
And that is all I have to say on that subject.

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Paula posted links to quite a few posts by Bill regarding Simon--Bill if anything was more vocal than most on his views and the evidence he had to back up these. Bear in mind that there was a lot of support for Simon here--I would say that he betrayed the trust that members had in him---some with personal experience of that.

Best wishes
Chris

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Repost + link corrections

Updated list of Bill's posts (not all of them):

Alberto e Daniela's Thread: Our experience with Simon Parkes as a counselor

◦ Post #9
◦ Post #31
◦ Post #79
◦ Post #90
◦ Post #148*
◦ Post #196
◦ Post #242
◦ Post #256*
◦ Post #258
◦ Post #274*
◦ Post #278*
◦ Post #292*
◦ Post #295*
◦ Post #317

UPDATE: Oops, I didn't see Sierra's post. I couldn't copy from the closed thread, so I redid them. I found an error in a link or two. And added * to several of them.

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No onawah.

I wrote the message to Bill on 19th August. As far as I know, and I would say I am correct, I'm the only person to speak to this ex-military policeman. I see nothing in the new message sent to Bill about contacting the soldier on duty that day.

This message that has been sent to Bill that is the O/P, I know nothing about.

It just further proves how a lot of people are feeling. By slowly chipping away at Simon's stories, due diligence, they are starting to be exposed for what they are. Twisted facts and out-and-out lies.

That is my opinion only.

Let me make this crystal clear. I know nothing of this new message sent to Bill by a non-member or who that person is.


Hope that makes it clear.

EDIT: What do you think of all this onawah, if I may ask? I feel for the position you are in, I really do, because I have been in that position too. When I found out that I had been lied to for so long, it hurts, and made me doubt myself more than anything. It made me not trust my own judgement, which was the worst thing.

This is just what I have found out about Simon, with a little digging. It's a free choice World, and it's your choice who you listen to. That aspect, I respect.


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Onawah I agree with the sentiment expressed by Citizen no2
Even though I obviously disagreed with your view point I did not loose respect for you.
I hope that you have had your eyes opened by recent posts.

Regards and wishing you the best
Chris

Hi Citizen No2. Thanks for the clarification.
I really don't take any of this personally.
I don't feel like I've been victimized, and if it turns out that Simon is a pathological liar or a dangerous tool, as far as I am concerned, I helped in the process of uncovering that, and I'm glad I did.
On the other hand, if it turns out he is not a villainous liar or a tool of dark forces, then I am glad that I continued to question.
My questioning was never on his behalf, but was motivated by a desire to discover the truth.
I think it's less a question of black and white and more a question of a lot of gray areas, but I am happy to admit if I'm wrong about that too, if I see anything to convince me of that.
What's most important to me is that we are able to discover the truth.
I've had evidence presented to me that was quite convincing that Simon was actually being set up in one instance in which many here think he was guilty as sin.
Unfortunately, the person who could have presented that evidence was unwilling to take the risk out of fear of reprisal, knowing how dangerous that can be.
That was just one instance, but it was an important one.
I have never been coached by Simon or any of his friends, and I don't have any agenda in this matter, though I do have a desire to know the truth, and I hope we arrive at that someday, but I don't think we have yet.

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No onawah.

I wrote the message to Bill on 19th August. As far as I know, and I would say I am correct, I'm the only person to speak to this ex-military policeman. I see nothing in the new message sent to Bill about contacting the soldier on duty that day.

This message that has been sent to Bill that is the O/P, I know nothing about.

It just further proves how a lot of people are feeling. By slowly chipping away at Simon's stories, due diligence, they are starting to be exposed for what they are. Twisted facts and out-and-out lies.

That is my opinion only.

Let me make this crystal clear. I know nothing of this new message sent to Bill by a non-member or who that person is.


Hope that makes it clear.

EDIT: What do you think of all this onawah, if I may ask? I feel for the position you are in, I really do, because I have been in that position too. When I found out that I had been lied to for so long, it hurts, and made me doubt myself more than anything. It made me not trust my own judgement, which was the worst thing.

This is just what I have found out about Simon, with a little digging. It's a free choice World, and it's your choice who you listen to. That aspect, I respect.


Regards.

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... I don't apologize for keeping an open mind about Simon or any other whistleblower who is being accused of various things, when no real tangible proof other than hearsay is being provided of serious wrongdoing.
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onawah, I wish for you that one day you'll be able to distinguish between "hearsay" and "testimony."

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Posted by Bill Ryan

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All the other messages received which I've been asked to post have been testimony.

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As for plagiarism, those are also actionable either with the stripping of any "certificates" acquired via such or with lawsuits like it happens in the "entertainment" fields.

Until you are able to let go of that bone, I wish you pleasure, peace and joy worrying it :)

Thanks Herve,
As I understand it, there was one recording which may have convinced Bill that the other accusations were probably all true.
Personally, I think there is a lot more about that particular case which needs to be explored, but I cannot offer anything in the way of evidence, unfortunately.
Nothing else was recorded and so we can only take the presenters' word for it that things actually happened the way they was presented.
Such testimony in a court of law would be weighed with conflicting testimony if there was such.
And there would be lots of favorable testimony from people who have reported benefiting from sessions with Simon, if anyone was interested enough in this debate to present it.
I lost interest in trying to collect it from CC members as they don't have a central site at this time, and Simon wasn't really interested in sending it to me, as he has pretty much written off Avalon, I believe.
He agreed to do it at one point, and then I told him that I thought it was pointless, too, or at least not the right time for it.
As for plagiarism, it's a kind of murky area when it comes to legality on the internet, I think, and there's a lot of it going on.
I'm not excusing that, just stating an observable fact.
Simon's being targeted for it, but a lot of other people could be just as easily.
David Wilcock and others collect information from the internet and other sources and present it to interested people who don't have time to do that kind of research.
It's a service, in a way, though certainly not always accurate or verifiable.
I don't think they usually claim all that information comes from themselves, do they?
And I don't think there are certificates for such services, or that they have been considered "actionable" as things stand at this time.
For that matter, the mainstream media isn't accountable either for much of the information it presents, as well as lots of alternative media outlets.
The difference between real journalism and "entertainment" is becoming very blurred planet wide.
It's very strange times we are living in; that's one thing we can probably all agree on, and there are more and more grey areas.
I'm just not into a blame game or being a victim, I'm into the process of discovering the truth in the best way I can and trusting in my own intuition.
For every finger pointing, there are 4 pointing back.
We are all accountable in the final analysis to our own Self, and there is no escaping that.

Onawah,

I left you alone because I felt kind of sorry for you. I think you have fallen under some kind of spell. I can keep my silence no longer.

You have just taken the concerns, worries and personal stories of half the forum and minimized, deflected, insinuated and wriggled out of every solid piece of evidence presented. Your act is half Grima Wormtongue, half Houdini, and it is none too pleasant to watch. Don't you have any hobbies outside Avalon? At first, I thought you should be banned, but I don't believe in banning for dissenting opinions. On second thoughts... your disingenouous double-talk has lost Sauron Parkes more credibility than the rest of us combined. Well done! :dog:

Every wheedling, whining post from any of the Parxists makes all of you look silly. So please, keep posting. Maybe you could form an Alliance with the Keshe camp.

He is reading this forum, he's just pretending he doesn't. Simon needs to step down, and go and heal. Get a job on Freelancer proof-reading, programming, whatever. That's the best offer he's going to get. James Casbolt went to jail. No matter what protection Simon thinks he has, he could serve a jail sentence too.

Onawah, if you support a plagarist and a predator, YOU are the AGRRESSOR. So quit playing all hurt and innocent.

Sauron Parkes has had his day. He no longer has permission to continue tricking people. He shall terrorize Avalon no longer.

Best Wishes,

Daozen

First of all thank you dear guest for your point of view and thank you admins for sharing this with the forum.

During my entrance to the alternative community I came with the though that I won't find liers or people who would mislead others since why would some one in the alternative community would do such a thing. After a while as i grew up a bit and got some good advices, I reviewed some of Simon's materials (at the beginning I was a dedicated follower of him) and I started to feel that there is something in me that says "this guy is inconsistent". I was hoping to find some negative critic about him around here but or I didn't find any or I have probably missed it while searching. So thank's again for this reassuring info. I speak for myself here tho we will never know until we are satisfied with a hard proof that Simon is a conman or a truth teller. I do listen to connecting consciousness sometimes to see if that is some consistency with other sources but not more then that. I stopped taking Simon's stories and information seriously for quite some time now and I feel great for doing that.

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and it is none too pleasant to watch. Don't you have any hobbies outside Avalon? At first, I thought you should be banned, but I don't believe in banning for dissenting opinions. On second thoughts.. your disingenouous double-talk...

...YOU are the AGRRESSOR. So quit playing all hurt and innocent.

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Ouch! Dang, Daozen...

{Hold on, I'm waiting for my heart to stop pounding so hard.}

I cringe when onawah’s stop button gets stuck on go. Blind spots are a tricky thing. We all have em’.

To onawah, in case you need it…I’m over here. Jump. If not, that’s fine, too.

I’m shutting down the computer for the evening. http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/Recov...psib04wklr.GIF All.

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Daozen has a point RunningDeer (though it is a very pointy point lol), but Lawd have mercy, how many threads are we on now?

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... I'm glad this matter has been put to rest...

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I'm glad you feel that way onawah. I'm sure Bill, Alberto, Daniela, Bibi, Callista, "A", "F", Sam, three guest emailers and anyone else whose testimony was invalidated, feel a similar joy.

You are very lucky Greybeard still respects you, and I respect Greybeard very much.

Their testimony may be true as they see it, and if so, I don't think it can truly be invalidated unless they allow that feeling in, but what happened may also be seen from other perspectives, as well, which can be just as valid.
We can never really know, since we are not omnipotent.
Which is why we are instructed to judge not.

Initially, I was very intrigued by Simon a couple years ago. His calm demeanor...his frank discussions of his upbringing and connections with Mantis ET's....I was like...wow, this dude is really spilling the beans. However, in the last few months all I hear from him is fear mongering with BS predictions. And so, I've tuned him out. I can't get into fear mongering and I think it's a slippery slope to make predictions because when they don't come true, then all credibility is lost (imo anyways). I wonder if, after this thread, he will mention Avalon by name in his next interview with Kerry.

Dave - Toronto

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Their testimony may be true as they see it, and if so, I don't think it can truly be invalidated unless they allow that feeling in, but what happened may also be seen from other perspectives, as well, which can be just as valid.
We can never really know, since we are not omnipotent.
Which is why we are instructed to judge not.

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Practice what you preach dear. No one else was pointing the finger at the whistleblowers. Non stop.

After all these that came to light it's hard to listen to Simon Parkes any more but i still believe he was telling the truth about his experiences.I really didn't like the fact that Avalon members were named in this e mail,in fact i found it really useless.Comments like" don't you have any hobbies outside Avalon?" make me mad,they are disgusting

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David Wilcock and others collect information from the internet and other sources and present it to interested people who don't have time to do that kind of research.
It's a service, in a way, though certainly not always accurate or verifiable.
I don't think they usually claim all that information comes from themselves, do they?
And I don't think there are certificates for such services, or that they have been considered "actionable" as things stand at this time.
For that matter, the mainstream media isn't accountable either for much of the information it presents, as well as lots of alternative media outlets.

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I can't even come close to comparing the two.
People have said a lot of mean things about Wilcock, usually regarding ego and that kind of thing.
But, David has openly stated that women pretty regularly throw themselves at him as a sort of alternative media/spiritual guru version of the rock star groupies.
I mean, if I were a chick I suppose it would be pretty cool to say I f*cked the reincarnation of Edgar Cayce.
But I digress.
David has stated that this would be a negative thing to do, and has stated he has for the most part used his will power not to engage in that sort of thing.
Where as Simon Parks offers up his corn dog and states it is a necessary part of the energetic healing.
I mean I've been to the doctors office and had to endure the ominous snap of the plastic glove and the uncomfortable request to "now push against my finger". But I've never had anyone in the role of care giver tell me I need to turn around and take his corn dog in order for my ailment to go away.
Just saying.
He also states that the corn dog must have no condemn on it.
This was always the dead give away for me.
Upon hearing this I knew the guy was negatively attaching himself to people.
Gurus are famous for cording their pupils and feeding on them. Some do it consciously others unconsciously.
Such is the dark side of spirituality. And corn dog juice is basically a living entity, so it is the quickest and most powerful way for a man to cord someone.
So to sum all of this up, I do not believe there is anyway what so ever you can compare David Wilcock to Simon Parks.
David Wilcock is like the Opie Taylor of the alternative news community.
Where as Simon Parks is that creepy uncle who your parents never leave you alone with.


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I apologize but since I posted this, I just couldn't get this song out of my head.
Sharing is caring. :)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07pLGIgyfjw

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=07pLGIgyfjw

I am very sorry to be not clear enough in some events but you need to step up yourself, I can not lift you.

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post912355

I agree with many of the emailers points. Many of us do. There are dozens upon dozens of active members that could have, and maybe already have, written something similar. Which makes posting it here all the more redundant and pointless. It was in my opinion in very poor taste, as it repeatedly singles out one member (Onawah) for reprimand, which has the effect of shaming or embarrassing or intentionally trying to gang up on someone...and accomplishes little else. I was embarrassed by it.

Onawah is not anyone's puppet. She's not speaking for anyone. Her posts reflect her sincere opinions on Simon Parkes. They may be immensely frustrating to many members here - including me! - but until we implement a "no Simon" policy here, she should be able to proceed without fear of shaming or condescension.

And, imo, if someone wants to have a take here, they should register just like everyone else and join the discussion that way.

Bill, mods, you all know I support you all and have great respect for each and every one of you, but I think you dropped the ball on this one. I can't help but question the motivation here???

I'd like to comment on RunningDeer's picture posted above of horses breaking loose from a merry go round. LOL, I think that's awesome (and I saved it).

Dave - Toronto

I would like to thank the moderation team for taking decisive action on the matter of Simon Parkes.

In relation to the "Simon Parkes update 2016-sep-04: Connecting Consciousness" were I was quiet vocal about my opinions. I would like to make some points:

1. I am fully aware of the misgivings the communities and guests had about Simon Parkes abilities as a counselor, and this played a significant part in stopping me from seeking his counsel.

2. I found some of Simon Parkes points interesting in his Q and A which would allow me a perspective to investigate and validate or disprove for myself.

3. My posts in "Simon Parkes update 2016-sep-04: Connecting Consciousness" directed towards Sam Hunter and Greybeard were designed to bait them both and highlight the fact that regardless of the the source of the thread it is not the place for members of the community to witch hunt, become self appointed police or gangstalk peronalities in the alternative media on the Avalon Community forum.

Because there actions may:
- dissuade members from expressing their point of view on the topic,
- dissuade possible whistleblowers from coming forward and also
- damage the reputation of the Avalon Community.

And yes I was trying to force the issue on Simon Parkes. If members like Sam Hunter, Greybeard or others have strong issue with these personalities they should directly petition the moderators to take action. As it the sole responsibility of the moderation team to take decisive action against personalities which are deemed a threat to members and guests of the Avalon Community.

Lastly, I am sorry to anyone I may have offended or upset, my aim was for decisive action to be taken in regards to Simon Parkes material.

And I do not hold any ill will towards any member or guest and have respect for opinions of every member as I have always.

This video was recorded on the 21 August and I think is appropriate to post here:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=n8a3abG5ND8

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I agree with many of the emailers points. Many of us do. There are dozens upon dozens of active members that could have, and maybe already have, written something similar. Which makes posting it here all the more redundant and pointless. It was in my opinion in very poor taste, as it repeatedly singles out one member (Onawah) for reprimand, which has the effect of shaming or embarrassing or intentionally trying to gang up on someone...and accomplishes little else. I was embarrassed by it.

Onawah is not anyone's puppet. She's not speaking for anyone. Her posts reflect her sincere opinions on Simon Parkes. They may be immensely frustrating to many members here - including me! - but until we implement a "no Simon" policy here, she should be able to proceed without fear of shaming or condescension.

And, imo, if someone wants to have a take here, they should register just like everyone else and join the discussion that way.

Bill, mods, you all know I support you all and have great respect for each and every one of you, but I think you dropped the ball on this one. I can't help but question the motivation here???

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Mike
I love you like a digital brother. I do. I agree with you 99.99% of the time.
But I also feel you like a good fight now and then, and there is no better fight than defending the underdog so to speak.
Fair enough.
If I were in a forum brawl there is probably no one better I would choose to stand by my side than yourself.
There was even a time when I think we were on the verge of a row, and you reminded me of our friendship and also stated you didn't wanna risk losing it by verbally whipping my ass on the forum. Of which my brother, I had little doubt then and I have little doubt now that you could do.
You are quite handy with the six shooter as your avatar signifies with Val Kilmer portraying Doc Holliday from the movie Tombstone.
The best character of the movie and probably Val Kilmer's career.
But back to the topic.
In the Spring of 2015 I left the forum for the most part. I believe I talked with you about it at the time. And my reason for not wanting to be here was the forum's support of Simon Parks at the time.
I had become aware that Simon Parks was taking advantage of folks, men and women alike and making unprotected sex an important part of their healing process.
You may say buyer beware and you may be correct in that point.
The ruling precept of Adam Smith's economic principals were that if two parties both being of sound mind entered into agreed exchange of money and or goods and services then the exchange was a positive in so far as it reflected on the market.
We must now ask ourselves, where the folks who accepted Simon Parks offer of sexual healing of sound mind?
Simon Parks was a councilor or rather a energetic healer. The folks coming to Parks felt there was something wrong with them and decided to pursue a means of healing.
I'm sure the majority of the folks who entered into an arrangement with Parks never in their wildest dreams thought he was going to physically enter them. Now I'm sure most of these folks were of sound mind, but the power we give healers can often times allow us to follow the recomendation of the healer to an extent we never would have considered before the relationship started.
Now does this mean all these folks were not of sound mind? I'm thinking they were of sound mind, but I'm sure some by their own admission some were seeking help on this account. So atleast on a few accounts we can assume that the individuals were not of sound mind being as they came for healing help, now by not being of sound mind this was not an exchange the market would deem beneficial.
When entering a relationship of patient healer one lets one's defenses down. One allows the healer to be in charge.
There are ethical restraints in the psychology fields because of this.
Now that these complaints have reached our forum owner's ears and the ears of the mods to the satisfaction that these complaints are real, the proper protocols have been put in place and we are getting away from offering Parks a venue of which to procure more victims. There seems to be a few dissenting opinions on the validity of those vicitms who have come forward. There seems to be a few folks who demand "proof" in so far as it relates to "proof" being more than human testimony.
You may feel Onawah should have the freedom to express her views on the positive concerning Parks, and you may be correct.
But my own personal view is, if we can save one person from Simon Parks sodomizing them both mentally/spiritually and mentally then shouldn't we?
I think so.
And if this means posting five negatives to every one of Onawah's positive posts where Simon Parks is concerned then so be it.
I know you and Natalie are friends, but the forum verdict on Simon has been made.
He is guilty as guilty gets.
We have plenty of lurkers reading our words, not just the guy who had his e-mail posted.
I think it is our duty to get the word out for those who are still being lured in by his videos. And I also applaud those who contradict the message of Simon being any kind of a valid healer/therapist. Simon is a predator plain and simple


I hope you understand what a touchy subject this is.
The topic is a fairly charged one. Especially for those who have been taken advantage of.

I wrote the following to an Avalonian, and was asked to post it here.

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You misunderstand. I am not defending Simon.
I am defending justice and the process by which we arrive at justice.
True, I don't see that there has been enough proof of wrongdoing to condemn Simon to the extent he has been accused.
I don't think he is stainless, but I think it is possible that he is sincerely turning into a better human being.
In the Bible it says that heaven rejoices much more in the sinner who repents than in the soul who considers him/herself blameless.
If we are all One, then we are all benefiting by helping such a repentant if that is so.
No one has to publicly repent to be a sincere person--I would be less convinced if Simon did, because I think he is still too Reptilian for that, but I think he is doing so just the same, in his own way.
And I can only say that because I'm sure I (and most people on the planet) have some Reptilian in me, and so I can recognize and understand those traits.
I would not stand in the way of that, even though I think he still has a long way to go.
His friend Becky, who is an inactive Avalon member, is not a fool, nor do I think other friends of his such as Win Keech and Jay Pee of Wolf Spirit Radio could be easily deceived.
I may be wrong, but I think the truth will be clear at some point, and when it is, I don't see any reason to feel regret even if I am wrong.
Every soul should have a chance to redeem themselves, even if they fail.
I admit it's possible that he is such a master at deception that he has all those people fooled, myself included, but I think there are a lot more people who would defend him than would revile him because he has helped them in some way.
So even if he is a wicked person, he is doing a lot of good in spite of himself.

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There was more to the message, but that was the part which the person thought should be posted.
No doubt Simon's detractors will find it of no consequence, but I think those like Mike and perhaps a few others will appreciate it.

As for the comparison to David Wilcock, my remarks were taken out of context.
I was speaking only of the service that David performs and others like him, including Simon, of spending a lot of time researching data and compiling it and disseminating it for those of us who don't have time for that.

I don't think any of us really know for sure very much about Simon's or David's or anyone else's private lives, really.
It is all speculation or second hand information for everyone except the two people involved in any given relationship.
Only those who have the shared experience can know what really happened, and of those two, the accounting of what happened and why and how can vary tremendously.

I am not pointing the finger at anyone by taking that position, I am no more omnipotent than anyone else, so how could I know?
I don't claim to know who is deceived and who is deceiver.
But I think is it is valid to suspect that there may be foul play on the parts of some who have made complaints, for the very reason that Simon is constantly speaking out publicly about the elite.
And that is a point that is constantly being ignored, which I find very puzzling.