"Climate Change" (AKA "Global Warming")... is it a scam?

When we hear the term "Climate Change" we can make a pretty solid bet that this term is simply the latest PC way to say "Global Warming."

Yet most of us know that when either term is used, it is used under the assumption that this purported earthly condition is "bad" for Earth and all on her, accelerating at rates never that our impending doom is upon us and that "Man" is causing it.

I cannot know what is what in this regard... I just cannot know. What I also know is I cannot trust "men" (and "women") when they make claims about this either way... whether they are trying to tell us its real or they are trying to tell us its a scam. But can any reader of this forum say they would be surprised if it was all a scam?

But what if its true?

What if we simply looked at the history of where all this information came from? What if we found the actual original source of the information and that it was this same source who held classes on the matter that a young Al Gore attended?

Be Warned..... you are about to be presented with

an alternate history

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=Rh4g_17MHug

Discovery of how the earth is will continue for generations.... They don't know and I consider it an uneducated guess because man hasn't been doing the documented research long enough to have observed cycles that take generations to evolve...

Definitely a confusing topic, when you consider chemtrails, HAARP and other EMFs, and also the interesting point that there are those who profit from "global warming"... G. Edward Griffin has a lot to say on the topic. I posted an interview with him on another thread... here is one more recent:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=-YHWTpX8HHc

its a scam. whether its warming or cooling the over publicity is meant to polarize and confuse.
its meant to entertain those who are bored and give problem to those who has not.

change is constant me thinks.

the conclusion that I have for now is:
we are going into a grand solar minimum, the bottom of which will be 2030ish.
wether the resulting cooling will be minimized by the aleged manmade global warming or not is to be seen...

we can also expect increased earth quake and vulcano activity as always happens in solar minimums.
none of those will be the cause of man's activities.... yet vulcanic dust in the atmosphere can cause major cooling...

In my humble opinion all this climate change BS is exactly that! bs. The real prove of the earth changes was layed on the ice , and scientist have research for decades finding several cicles of warming and cooling cicles without the burning of fossil fuels or too many cows expelling gas from the rear end! Is all bout a tax , is that simple, educate ( indoctrinate) the people to agree later being taxed , to pay a carbon tax. You don't believe? wait and see, but don't cry later! Just take a look at who is pushing the global warming agenda, who pay their checks, Follow the money....!

The man who started the whole global warming meme later changed his mind but was silenced.


Why?


My guess..... because it was chosen as the big scam to finance and force into place a new kind of non national government, a NewWordOrder.


How?


Carbon Tax, for one thing. Then there's the de industrialisation of advanced countries, to bring them down to a level where they can be more easily merged with 3rd world people under a single tyrannical financial elite gang of banksters and corporate scum.


Don't get me wrong. I like the idea of a global unity. Just not one put together by stealth by the biggest crooks on the planet as their way of staying in power and crapping on the rest of us from their great height of self idealised superiority. There's only one thing correct in that. They certainly are different from the rest of us, that bit's true. Superior?.... FFS.....they're lower than a snakes belly, psychopaths, not superior.


There are observable crazy things happening to the climate. Do these crooks even have the technology to be causing that too?


There's plenty of evidence that they do.


Crooks, crooks, crooks. The biggest irony is that the whole world is going to unite to rise up and bust them. That's my kind of new world order ;)

Tree-rings prove climate was WARMER in Roman and Medieval times than it is now - and world has been cooling for 2,000 years

Link: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...trial-age.html

Study of semi-fossilised trees gives accurate climate reading back to 138BC
World was warmer in Roman and Medieval times than it is now

How did the Romans grow grapes in northern England? Perhaps because it was warmer than we thought.

A study suggests the Britain of 2,000 years ago experienced a lengthy period of hotter summers than today.

German researchers used data from tree rings – a key indicator of past climate – to claim the world has been on a ‘long-term cooling trend’ for two millennia until the global warming of the twentieth century.

This cooling was punctuated by a couple of warm spells.

These are the Medieval Warm Period, which is well known, but also a period during the toga-wearing Roman times when temperatures were apparently 1 deg C warmer than now.

They say the very warm period during the years 21 to 50AD has been underestimated by climate scientists.

Lead author Professor Dr Jan Esper of Johannes Gutenberg University in Mainz said: ‘We found that previous estimates of historical temperatures during the Roman era and the Middle Ages were too low.

‘This figure we calculated may not seem particularly significant, however it is not negligible when compared to global warming, which up to now has been less than 1 deg C.’

In general the scientists found a slow cooling of 0.6C over 2,000 years, which they attributed to changes in the Earth’s orbit which took it further away from the Sun.

The study is published in Nature Climate Change.

It is based on measurements stretching back to 138BC.

The finding may force scientists to rethink current theories of the impact of global warming

Professor Esper's group at the Institute of Geography at JGU used tree-ring density measurements from sub-fossil pine trees originating from Finnish Lapland to produce a reconstruction reaching back to 138 BC.

In so doing, the researchers have been able for the first time to precisely demonstrate that the long-term trend over the past two millennia has been towards climatic cooling.

As I wrote here:

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Posted by Hervé

Let's keep it simple here:

There is something happening to local weather which in turn is an indication of something happening with earth's climate.

The thing is this: robber barons - following JP Morgan's obsession of putting meters onto everything - couldn't tax gods nor volcanoes, comets and asteroids for spewing ashes or sowing orbiting dust all around.

So, AL Gore and followers, applying Rahm Emanuel's formula to a T:

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You never let a serious crisis go to waste. And, what I mean by that, it's an opportunity to do things you think you could not do before.
- Rahm Emanuel

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Decided to find a way to pin it onto humans/us and their/our activities to squeeze a few more $$ out of them/us and prevent any competition to develop in "Third World" countries (Rockefeller's moto).

Since then, that gigantic lie has been hammered on us, daily, in an attempt to convince everyone that square pegs do actually fit in round holes.

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As for examples of acknowledging who is buttering their sliced breads with research grants:

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...=1#post1140098

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...=1#post1139527

Well most of you guys are gonna have a fun time over the next 5 years!

I will endeavour , as long as the net continues, to see how your notions are evolving over that span?

For those twittering about volcanoes go check the USGS figures on CO2/So2 outputs for a year and compare that to man's outputs ( over a year) As a 'heads up Pinatubo , the biggest blast in the past 150yrs , put out 0.02% of the CO2 man is currently pumping out each year...... and reflect on that as Pinatubo had a marked 2 year impact on global temps ( global Dimming). So the flip side of GHG warming is the cooling, ongoing, by the particulate/sulphates the pollution also carries.....

It is no coincidence the the last three , year on year, global temp records coincides with China's headlong surge into scrubbing technology and reduction in coal use ( in favour of renewables). The regions directly downwind of the pollution source have also seen the same '3 year' impact as both the warm phase of IPO took over in 2014 and PDO positive also went positive in 2014. both use sst temps as 'triggers' for their phase states and both switched from promoting cooling of the climate to warming.

In the mid noughties NASA told us 'Dimming' was reducing GHG warming by up to 50%.

Any return to a Maunder Min would reduce solar output by 0.2%........

As China continues to clean up its act ( cancelled 103 coal fired power stations this year) air qualities will improve ( spoke to a lass in Beijing 2 weekends back and her AQI was down in the low to moderate range whereas winters past had been so bad that folk stayed indoors or moved out to the countryside where air quality was better?) and dimming over the primary impact areas ( Pacific) will reduce allowing the full impact of the solar back to the surface where it can be absorbed and re-emitted as long-wave infra red for the GHG's to hold onto.

We now know that US/European/USSR dimming lowered temps over the 40's to 80's and allowed growth in Sea ice Thickness across the Arctic basin. Our rush into clean air acts and a better air quality then allowed the return to the enhanced warming ( we saw through the 80's/90's?) China may well have taken up our slack in 'dimming the planet' but the down range went from Atlantic/arctic to the Pacific basin. Did you never wonder why the IPO negative had acted like it was on steroids through the noughties ? Did you never wonder at the record trade winds we were measuring over that period? IPO-ve 'buries' heat in the ocean as opposed to the positive phase which keeps the warmed waters at the surface ( lighter winds) Was IPO-ve aided by the reduction in solar reaching the ocean surface? And what of more solar hitting the surface now we are in the 'surface heating' phase? What impact do you think that will have? Would it ,say, be warm enough to scrub out a forming La Nina by warmed surrounding waters 'mixing out' the cold Nina waters......... hmmm.......and a Nino back to back with a Super Nino? How common is that?

Arctic Sea ice is just about at max and Sea ice volume is at record low volumes ( less ice than the same time last year) with the number of accrued Freezing Degree Days over the basin far less than last years record low tally.

To bring folk up to speed last melt season was very poor for melt with all three of the high solar , 24hr day, months blighted by cloud and cool conditions. Ice sailed into joint second lowest Extent by September. It shared second place with 2007 which took a 'perfect melt storm' over all of the melt season to take ice extent that low....... so one of the worst ice melt seasons ( 'worse' for the lack of melt forcing) still managed to tie with 07'??? Area went even lower and was pretty close to 2012's record low Area.

So how will this year do ? We know that we are in worse shape than the same time last year with even less ice than then and that a repeat of last years 'poor melt' summer must leave us in record low states by sea ice min.

The 'Perfect melt Storm' in 2007 was part of a cycle of such events that return every 10 to 20 years across the Arctic. The two perfect melt storms before 2007 respected a ten year spacing. This year is ten years after the last perfect melt storm so ought we expect a summer melt season 'better for melt' than last year?

Last years open waters put about a Nino's worth of energy into the climate system. Most of that energy appeared to return to the basin as storm after storm entered the area raising mis winter temps there to above freezing ( 24hr dark yet melt occurred!!!).

How many Nino's of energy will this years open water throw into the mix?

How much extra energy will the reduction in dimming over the Pacific introduce in the system?

Will Nino again form up and affect next winter?

With so much 'New' energy now flooding into a climate system where the CO2 growth is well above the IPCC's 'worse case Scenario/Business as usual' levels what do you think must occur?

The 98' 'Super Nino' caused record warm global temps. It took 8 years to catch up to that high. How long will it take for us to beat the 2016 record? 2017 is already now beating the other recent record warm years on a month by month basis so will nino forming give it a chance to challenge 2016 for the record???

Feb , last year, broke through 1.5c above pre-industrial. I know it was a nino temp and 0.3c above the record set by 2016 but it raises the question of how long before we see background temps make up that 0.3c? At 1.5c above pre-industrial we are told we will lose all the northern permafrost ( as occurred the last time temps were so high according to paleo data taken in 2013) and summer Sea ice.

So we now see the Stratosphere breaking. Feb 2016 saw 'the old faithful of the Stratosphere' fail to reverse. The QBO had been set to go easterly and propogated down but then just returned aloft without changing, for those who do not know the QBO is the primary controller of global weather via its interactions with the like of MJO/SSW/PV.

The Stratospheric 'polar vortex' has had a torrid winter of malformation, displacement and disruption and allowed the warmth/humidity into the Arctic Basin that now leaves us so prone to a record low ice year.

So for those who think 'Fake' or 'Scam' you are gonna need some pretty good excuses by September!!!! Remember our weather is tied to the expressions we all recognise. It cannot grow a special AGW flavour of weather. All you will see is more extreme weather more often. More heat related records falling compared to cold. How was the Northern Hemisphere winter this year? Warm for most? Extreme rainfall/snowfall events? Extreme wind events?

The latest twist on the scam is that... "the ocean is trapping the CO2" but the day will come and come soon and we'll all become toast.

also, I have too often noticed the phrase "We now know."

all too often that phrase is followed with a statement which is nothing but opinion or is backed by cherry picked data from those with an agenda that is anything but the altruistic goals they pretend to hold.

I just noticed this thread Sam, David Icke and others have been saying its
a scam for years ......


Trumps EPA Pruitt: Nobody knows What Drives Climate Change.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPXGekalpgs

Published on 9 Mar 2017

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In this recent debate climate 'believers' discuss Pruitt , they are genuine people
and sincerely think they are right. So the waters are well and truly muddied ,
which is what they are really discussing industrial pollution policy not climate change.

Pruitt Doesn't Know Carbon Dioxide Causes Climate Change!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rI5YJUG_wk0

Published on 9 Mar 2017
Big Picture Panel: Sarah Badawi, Progressive Change Campaign Committee(PCCC)
& Angela Morabito, StandUnited.org. Is new EPA head Scott Pruitt handing our
government over to the people former Vice President Henry Wallace
called "American fascists"?

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In this video cast he connects the dots and opens up some of the flaws in the
Climate change debate.....


The Climate Change Scam, What its REALLY all about: The David Icke Videocast

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=NPgRv27lyu4

Published on 4 Dec 2015
David Icke talks about The Climate Change Scam, What its really all about?

This is a compilation taken from one of Davids presentations and other
contributions from Alex Jones with slides to illustrate the point he is trying to make....


David Icke - Climate Change Isn't What You Think It Is

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=l1xMuE9brkc

Published on 5 Jul 2016

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Brian Cox is the front man for man made climate change, but there is still not
a proper debate on this as far as I can tell they have brainwashed the public to
stifle debate.......Piers Corbyn the brother of UK labour party Jeremy Corbyn is
a meteorologist and thinks climate change as portrayed being caused by humans
is a overblown hoax.


Brian Cox We Challenge you on Climate Change

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=TcfBpe4MCB0

Published on 23 Oct 2016
http://www.windowsontheworld.net Piers Corbyn issues a challenge to debate Brain
Cox on made made climate change.

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Brian Cox resorts to trying to say Malcolm Roberts is a conspiracy theorist by
asking whether he believes whether NASA landed a man on the moon. Its like all
these debates when pushed the pro experts try to ridicule debate.

Brian Cox Baffled By Ignorance of Climate Change Denier Aug 15, 2016

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=QaxVu3Uq6OI

Published on 18 Aug 2016

This is what I was looking for a recent presentation , to see if anything has changed
I am watching this now , you may find him a little hard to understand as it is not the
best quality but it does have a slide show to help....It is a bit heavy going and
could do with a better sound quality.


Piers Corbyn: The Climate Change Hoax

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=yKAPOvDDRzw

Published on 16 Jan 2017

Video courtesy of the non-political 'Keep Talking Group' and shared here with their kind permission.
Piers Corbyn is the sort of man who on examining any issue, (be it political, economic or scientific),
looks at the evidence, makes up his own mind and then is not afraid of voicing conclusions thus
reached. And he does so with an admirable fearlessness of the political correct enforcers that
currently tyrannize our world.

He is also one of Britain’s foremost weather experts much sought after globally for his affordable and
uncannily accurate forecasts.He is also the brother of Jeremy Corbyn, the leader of Britain’s Labour Party.

To commission a weather forecast contact him at:

Welcome
http://www.weatheraction.com/

Some interviews he did on the Ritchie Allen show with better sound , I have
posted these before and they are good source of info , they also discussed
the Big Question programme and Ritchie does a separate show thats
linked below and shows no one really knows whats going on and like other
global agendas are pushed in the mainstream by interest groups funded by
who ??

Piers Corbyn "China/US Climate Change Deal Is an Ideological Attack On Us All!"

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=UOmJoOgPWyo

Published on 6 Sep 2016

Humans are only creating 4% of CO2 in the atmosphere.....

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Piers Corbyn::"BBC Biased On Climate Change,Nobody Will Debate Me &
Geo-Engineering Is Happening!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urfPl8bahwc

Published on 22 Mar 2016

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BBC's Nicky C gets heated Big Questions, Climate change pt 1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ooq_ZCmSIcY

part 2....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ty9ovyCKEgo
Published on 20 Mar 2016

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Richie Allen "BBC Climate Change Bias Is Shameful & Why Won't
The Green Party Debate Piers Corbyn?"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iG2esXbzBtg

Published on 22 Mar 2016

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Piers Corbyn On Climate Change, Geo-engineering & The Media Treatment Of His Brother Jeremy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A45YlerAmog

Published on 8 Jan 2016

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Posted by GrayWolfBG

Well most of you guys are gonna have a fun time over the next 5 years!

I will endeavour , as long as the net continues, to see how your notions are evolving over that span?

For those twittering about volcanoes go check the USGS figures on CO2/So2 outputs for a year and compare that to man's outputs ( over a year) As a 'heads up Pinatubo , the biggest blast in the past 150yrs , put out 0.02% of the CO2 man is currently pumping out each year...... and reflect on that as Pinatubo had a marked 2 year impact on global temps ( global Dimming). So the flip side of GHG warming is the cooling, ongoing, by the particulate/sulphates the pollution also carries.....

It is no coincidence the the last three , year on year, global temp records coincides with China's headlong surge into scrubbing technology and reduction in coal use ( in favour of renewables). The regions directly downwind of the pollution source have also seen the same '3 year' impact as both the warm phase of IPO took over in 2014 and PDO positive also went positive in 2014. both use sst temps as 'triggers' for their phase states and both switched from promoting cooling of the climate to warming.

In the mid noughties NASA told us 'Dimming' was reducing GHG warming by up to 50%.

Any return to a Maunder Min would reduce solar output by 0.2%........

As China continues to clean up its act ( cancelled 103 coal fired power stations this year) air qualities will improve ( spoke to a lass in Beijing 2 weekends back and her AQI was down in the low to moderate range whereas winters past had been so bad that folk stayed indoors or moved out to the countryside where air quality was better?) and dimming over the primary impact areas ( Pacific) will reduce allowing the full impact of the solar back to the surface where it can be absorbed and re-emitted as long-wave infra red for the GHG's to hold onto.

We now know that US/European/USSR dimming lowered temps over the 40's to 80's and allowed growth in Sea ice Thickness across the Arctic basin. Our rush into clean air acts and a better air quality then allowed the return to the enhanced warming ( we saw through the 80's/90's?) China may well have taken up our slack in 'dimming the planet' but the down range went from Atlantic/arctic to the Pacific basin. Did you never wonder why the IPO negative had acted like it was on steroids through the noughties ? Did you never wonder at the record trade winds we were measuring over that period? IPO-ve 'buries' heat in the ocean as opposed to the positive phase which keeps the warmed waters at the surface ( lighter winds) Was IPO-ve aided by the reduction in solar reaching the ocean surface? And what of more solar hitting the surface now we are in the 'surface heating' phase? What impact do you think that will have? Would it ,say, be warm enough to scrub out a forming La Nina by warmed surrounding waters 'mixing out' the cold Nina waters......... hmmm.......and a Nino back to back with a Super Nino? How common is that?

Arctic Sea ice is just about at max and Sea ice volume is at record low volumes ( less ice than the same time last year) with the number of accrued Freezing Degree Days over the basin far less than last years record low tally.

To bring folk up to speed last melt season was very poor for melt with all three of the high solar , 24hr day, months blighted by cloud and cool conditions. Ice sailed into joint second lowest Extent by September. It shared second place with 2007 which took a 'perfect melt storm' over all of the melt season to take ice extent that low....... so one of the worst ice melt seasons ( 'worse' for the lack of melt forcing) still managed to tie with 07'??? Area went even lower and was pretty close to 2012's record low Area.

So how will this year do ? We know that we are in worse shape than the same time last year with even less ice than then and that a repeat of last years 'poor melt' summer must leave us in record low states by sea ice min.

The 'Perfect melt Storm' in 2007 was part of a cycle of such events that return every 10 to 20 years across the Arctic. The two perfect melt storms before 2007 respected a ten year spacing. This year is ten years after the last perfect melt storm so ought we expect a summer melt season 'better for melt' than last year?

Last years open waters put about a Nino's worth of energy into the climate system. Most of that energy appeared to return to the basin as storm after storm entered the area raising mis winter temps there to above freezing ( 24hr dark yet melt occurred!!!).

How many Nino's of energy will this years open water throw into the mix?

How much extra energy will the reduction in dimming over the Pacific introduce in the system?

Will Nino again form up and affect next winter?

With so much 'New' energy now flooding into a climate system where the CO2 growth is well above the IPCC's 'worse case Scenario/Business as usual' levels what do you think must occur?

The 98' 'Super Nino' caused record warm global temps. It took 8 years to catch up to that high. How long will it take for us to beat the 2016 record? 2017 is already now beating the other recent record warm years on a month by month basis so will nino forming give it a chance to challenge 2016 for the record???

Feb , last year, broke through 1.5c above pre-industrial. I know it was a nino temp and 0.3c above the record set by 2016 but it raises the question of how long before we see background temps make up that 0.3c? At 1.5c above pre-industrial we are told we will lose all the northern permafrost ( as occurred the last time temps were so high according to paleo data taken in 2013) and summer Sea ice.

So we now see the Stratosphere breaking. Feb 2016 saw 'the old faithful of the Stratosphere' fail to reverse. The QBO had been set to go easterly and propogated down but then just returned aloft without changing, for those who do not know the QBO is the primary controller of global weather via its interactions with the like of MJO/SSW/PV.

The Stratospheric 'polar vortex' has had a torrid winter of malformation, displacement and disruption and allowed the warmth/humidity into the Arctic Basin that now leaves us so prone to a record low ice year.

So for those who think 'Fake' or 'Scam' you are gonna need some pretty good excuses by September!!!! Remember our weather is tied to the expressions we all recognise. It cannot grow a special AGW flavour of weather. All you will see is more extreme weather more often. More heat related records falling compared to cold. How was the Northern Hemisphere winter this year? Warm for most? Extreme rainfall/snowfall events? Extreme wind events?

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Thanks for this,GrayWolfBG. I occasionally come across a thread like this on the forum, but I can no longer muster the time or energy to debate with the deniers, so I'm glad that you have. In my experience, it is a fool's errand to even try to resolve this issue. All I know for sure is that the earth is getting warmer, and the warming has been accelerating since the start of the industrial revolution. Our planet's ice caps and glaciers are melting, and the ocean temperatures are rising. The energy within our biome is making our weather systems more chaotic and extreme. This set of conditions is clear to anyone who bothers to look. The opportunities we had to mitigate this in ANY way are long gone.

Debate, however, is futile.

But sincere thanks for the attempt.

Namaste

B.

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Posted by Fellow Aspirant

Thanks for this,GrayWolfBG. I occasionally come across a thread like this on the forum, but I can no longer muster the time or energy to debate with the deniers, so I'm glad that you have. In my experience, it is a fool's errand to even try to resolve this issue. All I know for sure is that the earth is getting warmer, and the warming has been accelerating since the start of the industrial revolution. Our planet's ice caps and glaciers are melting, and the ocean temperatures are rising. The energy within our biome is making our weather systems more chaotic and extreme. This set of conditions is clear to anyone who bothers to look. The opportunities we had to mitigate this in ANY way are long gone.

Debate, however, is futile.

But sincere thanks for the attempt.

Namaste

B.

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Yet also... no one can really know if this is true when the folks that are telling other folks "this" are compromised. Maybe they are telling the truth... maybe the Earth is 'warming' but how can you believe folks who are compromised? How?

And so then... let's just say for a moment it is. Why is it? Not even the compromised folks can tell you why and certainly, when they try and tell you 'man' is causing it or causing most of it, they cannot produce any actual proof that this is the case much less come up with any proof that suggests a reasonably accurate percentage. I admit that if I fart, I add to the greenhouse effect. But my bet is that the percentage my own flatulence isn't even measurable much less are we able to pin down the actual percentages of the current favorite boogeymen.

This from DABOO77

Heads Up! Stealth Bombers Dropping Chemtrails In New Mexico (So how much of Climate Change is manufactured?)

https://youtube.com/watch?v=22BaypKpnL0

Climate Models for the Layman with Dr. Judith Curry

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=SBjFjSZjv6w

Published on 15 Mar 2017

If the global temps continue with the trend we saw for Jan and Feb 2017 will come is as the 4th in a row record warm year outstripping last years Nino assisted Record?

How can that even be a thing???

When we look back over the past 3 record years we find that Global temps have leapt a full 0.2c, the last century put on 1c so 0.2c every 20 years.......

The increase in solar reaching the surface looks to be increasing as China continues to throttle back on its coal use along with implementing clean air technologies in an attempt to stem the urban deaths that smog is causing. NASA, during the noughties, calculated that half the potential warming was being lost to Global Dimming' . That would be 1c that was ready to appear once the pollution blocking its entry disappeared. I guess we still have a bit more warming ahead?

Some light entertainment I think you may enjoy it ,
some banter between two old TV/radio jocks....

But the main reason is Aprox 20 mins in Larry asks if
he at least believes in Climate change ? Savage schools
him but you can see Larry is perplexed and keeps saying
97% of scientists say its true......

Neocons threatening Trump’s presidency – Michael Savage

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=8wHp2powckU

Published on 16 Mar 2017

Talk radio show host and author Michael Savage joins Larry King
with his prediction for the GOP healthcare bill. Savage also explains
why he believes House Speaker Paul Ryan and neoconservatives are
the greatest threat to Donald Trump's presidency, and why, he says,
Steve Bannon 'misled' the president.

Heavy California rains results in desert "superbloom" at Anza-Borrego Desert State Park

CBS Evening News You Tube
Mon, 13 Mar 2017 13:32 UTC

https://www.sott.net/image/s19/38447...nia_desert.jpg
Superbloom © Alerta Roja

After a winter of heavy rains soaked California, ending a six-year drought, a floral rainbow has bloomed in the desert.

John Blackstone has more from the Anza-Borrego State Park.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=gZawIPBAG_k

https://www.sott.net/image/s19/38448...nia_desert.jpg

The drought has 'eased' in Calfornia for it is far from over in some areas? Ground water reserves are still sitting at record lows so we'll need to see this rainy spell continue to fully recover to old values?

What is happening in Peru appears to tie in with this ~Nino like~ weathers we are seeing? Oddly during last years Super Nino Peruvians were not seeing their anchovies disappear as is the norm for nino conditions and now there is no Nino they are seeing nino conditions??? Has the broken QBO a role to play in this ripping off atmospheric cooperation from sea surface forcing and so causing 'nino like' events when the physical forcings are absent?

Our Agencies use ocean surface temps across Nino 3.4 to decalre a Nino. ATM temps in 3.4 are below threshold to call nino. Temps across regions 1 and 2 are in super Nino ranges???

Interesting...

Delingpole: And So It Begins, Trump’s Great Climate Purge…

Finally the Trump administration is starting to get serious about taking on the Green Blob.

EPA administrator Scott Pruitt – perhaps stung by criticisms that he was turning into a squish – today reaffirmed, in an interview with CNBC, that he is not a believer in catastrophic man-made global warming.

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I think that measuring with precision human activity on the climate is something very challenging to do and there’s tremendous disagreement about the degree of impact. So no, I would not agree that it’s a primary contributor to the global warming that we see. But we don’t know that yet…

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This new boldness coincides with a purge of warmist scientific advisers at both the EPA and the Interior Department.

EPA Administrator Scott Pruitt has chosen to replace half of the members on one of its key scientific review boards, while Interior Secretary Ryan Zinke is “reviewing the charter and charge” of more than 200 advisory boards, committees, and other entities both within and outside of his department. EPA and Interior officials began informing outside advisers of the move on Friday, and notifications continued over the weekend.

Pruitt’s move could significantly change the makeup of the 18-member Board of Scientific Counselors, which advises EPA’s key scientific arm on whether the research it does has sufficient rigor and integrity. All of the members being dismissed were at the end of serving at least one three-year term, although these terms are often renewed instead of terminated.

Read it all here

DELINGPOLE: Ship of Fools III – Global Warming Study Cancelled Because of ‘Unprecedented’ Ice

A global warming research study in Canada has been cancelled because of “unprecedented” thick summer ice.

Naturally, the scientist in charge has blamed it on ‘climate change.’

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John Coleman – Global warming papers are “bought and paid for”

June 12, 2017 Robert
Founder of the Weather Channel very effectively shuts down CNN host Brian Stelter.

Coleman points out that 31,000 scientists have signed a petition saying the global warming “consensus” is not valid.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=T43vc4NZUUc

Coleman tells Stelter that “CNN has taken a very strong position on global warming that it is a consensus. Well there is no consensus in science. Science isn’t a vote. Science is about facts.” You hear all this alarmism about heat waves and drought, but they’re not happening.

Says he is “terribly disappointed” by his former network, The Weather Channel, because it “has bought into [climate change].

Here’s a longer segment of the above interview:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=YQshyqCLYHo

Coleman produced a special report for KUSI-TV, entitled Global Warming: The Other Side. The program suggests that Global Warming is a scam and presents what Coleman contends is evidence of a deliberate manipulation of world temperature data by NASA and other groups.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list…

31,487 American scientists have signed this petition, including 9,029 with PhDs
http://www.petitionproject.org/

Thanks to Norm Smith for these links

Quote:

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Posted by Yetti

Is all bout a tax , is that simple, educate ( indoctrinate) the people to agree later being taxed , to pay a carbon tax. You don't believe? wait and see, but don't cry later! Just take a look at who is pushing the global warming agenda, who pay their checks, Follow the money....!

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And there we are. Indeed, there are/were plans to (Worldwide) take in another 1500 Billion (!) $.

Imho, the core and sun are heating up, when you look at animals dying off in the Pacific, with those plenty images of the US West Coast dripping back into memory here, the several earthquakes, eruptions and let's not forget the rapid change down South, it becomes apparent.

Add the Chemtrails to that and it makes sense why they would try to block as much heat as they can. They can't tell us why because the money scam will come out. See, one last thing that has stood out for me, People burn faster in the Sun, what's more likely, the heat is more intense or the earth is warmer, dunno.

:cheers:

BREAKING NEWS: CLIMATE SCARE IS OVER!

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=nLuBgZ1bgoY

Published on 8 Dec 2016

Infowars Reporter Millie Weaver interviews Lord Christopher Monckton who reveals a breaking discovery which may prove the entire 'climate change' scare is based on faulty mathematics. At the "Global-Warming; an Inconvenient Lie" conference in Phoenix, AZ Lord Monckton covers in depth the mathematical discovery his team has made and announces that these findings have been submitted for proper peer review.

Here is a short 12 min vid from Truthstream Media that may fit in with this thread:


https://youtube.com/watch?v=olJv2syNw9A

One of my past clients was head ‘Cheeto’ of NOAA(National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration) of THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, which is a presidential appointee position. I asked him long ago about ‘global warming’ and he politely said in so many words it was a farce. He was being careful as he was still working as a consultant in the field at the time…. knowing this, I didn’t press him, it wasn’t too hard to read between the lines. Of all the people, this guy would know.

Also, I found the explanation given by Gregg Braden most helpful. One can’t ignore the Ice cores taken from Vostak Lake, Antarctica as they reveal over 420,000 years of weather! What’s revealed are cycles! For me, case closed as who can argue the patterns revealed by ice cores over 420,000 years old? Oh and by the way, scientists have known this since 1987! 1987!!! Climate change is real, but not for the reasons we've been told.

Missing Links episode I- Gregg Braden

https://youtube.com/watch?v=GxERTlbAo7g&t=6s

Although this vid was posted today on Davids U'tube channel
its from one of his presentations circa 2013/4 ? ......

The Global Warming Scam - David Icke

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=aeEggoe0wI8

Published on 3 Jul 2017

Record Summer Cold Continues At The North Pole
Posted on July 3, 2017 by tonyheller

The short polar melt season is almost half over, and hasn’t actually begun yet.

read more here

Why Scientists Disagree About Global Warming

The NIPCC Report on Scientific Consensus

Attachment 35640


and...

July 4, 2017 : Coldest July Temperature Ever Recorded In The Northern Hemisphere

read here

Delingpole: Record-Breaking Cold in Greenland; Alarmists ‘Look. An Arctic Squirrel!’

read here

Dr. Timothy Ball: Michael ‘Hockey Stick’ Mann “belongs in the state pen, not Penn. State"

By Robert July 5, 2017

President Trump should love this. It will bolster his claims that climate scare stories are a ‘hoax.”

“Breaking: Fatal Courtroom Act Ruins Michael ‘Hockey Stick’ Mann,” reads the headline.

Lawsuit against Canadian Climatologist Dr. Timothy Ball concerning his statement that Michael Mann “belongs in the state pen, not Penn. State" may turn out to be a precise and true statement of fact.
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4 July 2017 – “Penn State climate scientist, Michael ‘hockey stick’ Mann commits contempt of court in the ‘climate science trial of the century,'” says this article on principia-scientific.org.

“Prominent alarmist shockingly defies judge and refuses to surrender data for open court examination. Only possible outcome: Mann’s humiliation, defeat and likely criminal investigation in the U.S.”

The author of the article, John O’Sullivan, expects the 79-year-old Ball to “instruct his attorneys to trigger mandatory punitive court sanctions, including a ruling that Mann did act with criminal intent when using public funds to commit climate data fraud.

Mann’s imminent defeat … will be both a legal and scientific vindication of U.S. President Donald Trump’s claims that climate scare stories are a ‘hoax.'”

“President Trump was elected on a mandate to weed out climate fraud so his supporters will point to this legal outcome as vindication for a full purge. It makes a mockery of statements made by Mann last February when PSI’s Hans Schreuder and John O’Sullivan publicly backed their colleague, Dr Ball and endorsed the revelations in his book. ”

See much, much more of this fine article:

Breaking: Fatal Courtroom Act Ruins Michael ‘hockey stick’ Mann

and more and more...

EXCLUSIVE: Study Finds Temperature Adjustments Account For ‘Nearly All Of The Warming’ In Climate Data

A new study found adjustments made to global surface temperature readings by scientists in recent years “are totally inconsistent with published and credible U.S. and other temperature data.”

“Thus, it is impossible to conclude from the three published [global average surface temperature (GAST)] data sets that recent years have been the warmest ever – despite current claims of record setting warming,” according to a study published June 27 by two scientists and a veteran statistician.

read about it here

...and more...

DELINGPOLE: ‘Nearly All’ Recent Global Warming Is Fabricated, Study Finds

Much of recent global warming has been fabricated by climate scientists to make it look more frightening, a study has found.

The peer-reviewed study by two scientists and a veteran statistician looked at the global average temperature datasets (GAST) which are used by climate alarmists to argue that recent years have been “the hottest evah” and that the warming of the last 120 years has been dramatic and unprecedented.

What they found is that these readings are “totally inconsistent with published and credible U.S. and other temperature data.”

read about it here


Highlight - "peer-reviewed study by two scientists and a veteran statistician"

Comment: Folks - we have been serially lied to about the reality of this matter

More information that suggest (more and more) that the Paris Climate Agreement was a scam to get US wealth redistribution to other parts of the world -

Erdogan says U.S. stance stalls Turkish ratification of Paris climate deal

The dominoes that keep falling - Intentional misinterpretation of data and claims about data where the data turns out to have been significantly "skewed" which both have been used to "make the argument" that man causes the climate of the Earth to endanger all life on Earth looks more and more like (as some of the wiser but sadly fewer folks have suspected)...

to be a scam.

But you will not hear one single peep out of anyone who has bought into the lies of this scam (and thus the scam) despite the mounting evidence that it is nothing but...

a scam.

I wonder why? I wonder how someone's ego (or whatever else it might be) can be more important to protect than to admit that, "Yes... indeed, it is looking more and more like...

a scam."

The most important thing to understand

By Robert July 11, 2017

“Climate change policy is about how we redistribute de facto the world’s wealth.” –

Ottmar Edenhofer, lead author of the IPCC’s fourth report. Speaking in 2010:

https://www.iceagenow.info/wp-conten...-Edenhofer.jpg

“One has to free oneself from the illusion that international climate policy is environmental policy. Instead, climate change policy is about how we redistribute de facto the world’s wealth.”

https://glwdotcom.files.wordpress.co...c-scam-001.jpg

Thanks to Cecil Henry for this link

When I was watching the to me recommended youtube video's I got this one:

No Climate Change and CO2 has nothing to do with climate change or global warming. It is just impossible due to the very, very low percentage of it in the atmosphere.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=Z9-DV4X-WRk

I don't know who the guy is and how old this video is.
Put it here for archival purposes.

Have any of you noticed, chemtrails have stopped?

I heard Trump signed an executive order on it, but this is the 2nd major heatwave since they quit...

Without the smoke and mirrors, global warming is going to become reality very quick...

So to answer the question, what was wanted, was to stop taxes being paid to bankers.

That is something everyone agrees on...

But the the Koch Cyber Science Denial group got on it and tossed out the word Tax...

From Climate Change Tax Denial, to Climate Change Denial in one word. Koch

Now everyone is confused, but it is simple, Climate Change is happening and mammals could be facing mass extinction. It is that serious.

What is going to happen now that Chemtrails stopped?

https://youtube.com/watch?v=9iv5GPHK228

I know everyone watching the movie thinks having 22% of the sun's energy should be great for cooling the planet, The part of the calculation everyine forgets is the energy bouncing off Earth which should fly into space, but 22% is sent back, again and again every second more energy being trapped inside the "Protection"...