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AutumnW
Orobo,
Wherever you have a caste system, you will have differences in average IQ in those entrenched in the bottom class. Poor education, lousy food, the effect of generational violence on the developing brain, exposure to lead. I could go on and on. This racial IQ canard isn't scientific at all.
Trillions blown on welfare. Seriously? What country are you talking about? The U.S blows trillions on warfare, not welfare.
You can argue that IQ is part of a general measure of an individual's intelligence, but your theory breaks down when it comes to extrapolating meaningful conclusions based on racial averages.
There's plenty of studies out there that refute the conclusions you have come to based on the Bell Curve--that IQ is immutable and intrinsic to the individual. It is not and scientists who push this idea are mistaken.
A person can't rise above it, until they are taken out of it or receive help, particularly at crucial junctures of brain development. If not, it WILL be reflected on test scores. The problem isn't all the "help" blacks are recieving, it's that the help is no longer there and you can thank Mr. Bell Curve for contributing to that.
You can do your own research on this. That'll be your homework assignment.
Another thing I want to mention is verbal talent, mathematical talent are considered intelligences, but musical intelligence, athletic prowess, artistic intelligence are considered "talents." So many areas of intelligence that give life luster, meaning and make us fully dimensional are not measured by IQ. Some dry sticks of professorial academic detritus decided to reduce other humans down to raw pulp and extrude them through the narrow tube of IQ testing. Not really fair to the individual, but even less fair to entire groups.
Autumn,
I have done my homework, and got an A.
Frankly I do not want to engage in a discussion with you about this. It will not go well. Let me just write this to you. After that I will just ignore you if nothing constructive comes from your side.
Look. I assume we are on the same side. We all are looking at the tsunami of **** heading our way, and ways to deal with it.
I have looked at this IQ thing in depth, for a long time, and have come to the prudent conclusion that there is something there that will defuse a great part of this bigoted doctrine poisoning our society.
Pointing fingers and attributing things to me that basically aren't mine, or at sources I haven't used.... Stop the immaturities, please. It is using valuable energy to rebut and get on with the needed conversation. It is important, and we will have to look at it. As soon as.
I get where you are coming from, I was there too. I moved on, when I found out I was lied to.
If I am allowed to come with a suggestion it is that one can also engage by asking questions. That furthers the conversation better than a scattershot of closed-minded refusals, wild assumptions and dis-info without direction or links.
That is the tactic of a paid agent to make people disengage, or worse.
Also, it is ok to hang back and relax, without engaging. Works very well for me, I hardly do anyway. I choose my battles wisely. please do so too.
If hysteria was a valid leading factor we wouldn't have gone to using fire in our lives either, long ago.
Love to you. O.
The point is, we get hung from the highest tree for touching this subject and all alarm bells go off due to the internalised propaganda. I get that. I have that too, you know.
I have been using that as a tool for direction instead. So, on with it.
Mike,
You are so prudent, but... Happy to see you there.
Let's take a purely rational look, because we have to, not to get caught up in trivial drama.
I look at it like in nature. There are many races of dogs for example and their qualities differ greatly. One is good in the handbag of a Russian hooker, the other for searching Scandinavian bears on a hunt. Humans are very likely the same. There is no "better", just different.
The little lapdog wouldn't have a happy and productive life alongside the Karelian bear-dogs in the mud and sleet. Maybe the Karelians would not be happy the lapdog is eating from their bowls....bla bla bla, you get the point.
This could be the allegory for muslims/Africans in Europe/US. The society is made by and for Europeans with their qualities. The migrants couldn't, on average, hang in there with the rest. That is also what the stats show. And surely they resent that, maybe rightly so.
It demands rational and abstract thinking to keep oneself on the right track. Happy, positive and productive in such an alien environment. There are many that have trouble with that in their own culture.
From the first generation to the next, and the next, till now the fourth and fifth generations of migrants things turn more and more ugly. A more than linear uptake in crime, disengagement in society, and stuck in the brain- and self-worth rotting welfare-trap. It makes for some very unhappy people. But it seems this is the whole point.
For now comes the Wormtongue: "It is not your fault, it is the racist whites". Most migrants come from cultures where linear, rational and abstract thinking is not a virtue. Freethinkers are shunned or killed. So it is bred out of people by a punishing conformity, over many many generations.
Dump those here, under false pretences, like we have heard in the migrants own words, and they are being played. They are tools or weapons, frankly. Thát is racist, of the most most evil kind.
Some here on Avalon are aware of videos where the perpetrators of said "human dumping" are openly talking about how and why they do that. Rife, is the word. There are even compilations of those "from the horses mouth"-quotes. It goes on for hours on end. Amazin'.
The human, as a tribal species, is built, through evolution, to recognise the smallest differences in facial traits. To safeguard themselves and the tribe. Are them strangers?
The human dumping naturally fires up the uneasiness of the original folk in those countries. This counts also for the US, even though the black population started out as slaves.
Look at the White flight, when black people come to their neighbourhoods.
So, of course, the whites try to keep to their own. Resisting hiring a black person, as an example, is only a natural reaction, but only a detail when seen in the bigger picture of big, real racist policies. Economical or political.
Think about the HUD programs where the (white) ethnicities of neighbourhoods are forcibly broken up by moving black or brown people there. This happens here in Europe also.
There are overtly racist policies, like diversity quotas against the white population. Or hidden, like the welfare programs.
Nixon said something like:"Now we have bound up the black vote for 150 years", when the welfare state came into being. There is a lot more to find about that. It has been an evil plan from the beginning, the welfare state. In principle. The black community was doing actually great up to that point, rising into the middle class quickly. Stopping the rise by taking money from society to lock them up "on the new plantation" like Candace Owens says. Laying the ground work for resentment. On all sides.
It is like in Europe. Take from the Europeans and give it to the migrants, who will keep up making many babies, like in Africa or the Middle East. Diversity hiring, lower punishments for similar crimes etc etc That is very racist, but presented as something good and responsible. Under threat of being called a racist. Upside down world.
Now the migrants in Europe, or the black people in the US are legion (pun ), by systemic racist policies from the 60 and onward, Critical Theory can stoke the fires of said resentment.
Humans are easily led towards that easier route of resentment, through entitlement for example.
What I describe here is a "systemic racism" of a different kind, on another level preceding the currently used one, that is there to make the brown and black folks hate the whites, in who's societies they live.
Being able to see all this, and working through ones own resistance consciously, concerning these workings demands a mental capacity for abstract thinking, and a curiosity that is possible within the individualistic, creative and free culture of the Europeans. What is needed for that is raw mental capacity, called "G". Commonly described by IQ.
These are capacities that, according to scientific testing, are not readily available on average, in some other cultures and (sub-)races of humans. Especially the cultures that are being used as weapons against the ethnic European cultures. Not my idea, just relaying the words of people doing this...both the scientists or the evil-doers in casu.
George Soros: I am going to bring down the United States by funding Black Hate groups. We'll put them into a mental trap and make them hate White people. The Black community is the easiest to manipulate. (2014)is a quote.
I think it is clearly a trap to bind up society in a troubled "systemic racism, see, Whites are bad" while the real "primary racists" wring their hands in delight.
So what if many European people find their way out of their programming and dare/manage to see the big picture, which is not easy, there is still the weaponised folks that need to come to the realisation that being brothers is the only way to get out of this bind. Or plain civil war.
I am afraid that the natural differences between the different peoples are big enough for the controllers to keep everyone running. Hustling with the inborn reactions of a variation of folks.
It is so sad to see the black community being led to burn all their bridges to the real direction where their freedom is. And ours too!
I think that direction is where the ethnic Europeans thrive. It is thóse, and ONLY those, people that collectively has found the universalist insights that led them to see slavery is not good.
They worked endlessly, against all resistance to buy free or set free by other means the slaves.
That one-eyed king has to be killed it seems, by the blind masses, for the the two-faced to take over the throne.