I know that feeling! ;) I've only shared a couple things so far ... I'm here today because I was thinking of sharing another, but then I saw this post and here I am. lol
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I'm so sorry to hear that! Seems your dream was more forthcoming with what was actually going to happen. My dreams are more like guessing games. Regardless, I can only think that you needed to prepare yourself for what was to come, which is my only explanation for why you had the dream. Stay strong! Sending positive vibes your way. ;)
[QUOTE=Tesla_WTC_Solution;741049] Have you ever heard of the Global Consciousness Project?
http://noosphere.princeton.edu/homepage4.html
Quite possible. When I was a little girl living in the woods, my grandma told me to never walk the path to the woodshed alone. I was only 4, and there were bears, badgers and wolverines out in those woods. Well, I was a curious tot and one day, I found myself walking down that path to the woodshed. (Grandma and Grandpa had some neat old things stored in that shed!)
Sure enough, there on the path, I came upon a black bear cub. He was so cute! And then came mama. I watched in amazement and awe as she stood up on her hind legs and looked down at me. I wasn't scared -- I was too ignorant to be scared. lol But I'll never forget the look in mama's eyes. Her eyes said, "Oh, it's just a silly human child." And she got back down on all fours and guided her cub away.
Now, if I had been afraid, I think I would have been attacked. Animals can sense fear emanating from other creatures. I believe this mama bear could sense my awe and curiousity and realized I was no threat. Perhaps your spider actually DID sense your intentions. Just like I believe many humans can also sense such things. It's my thought that this "empathy" may be a stepping stone to more psychic abilities, like telepathy.
One thing I've noticed: Emotion seems to drive such things, even precognitive abilities.
Just my 2 cents. ;)
I wish I could pick the time, place and make things happen, but for me, it's usually a personal experience and one that is happening for some reason unknown to me. Scientifically, I'd love to be able to find all the variables so it could be replicated. Spiritually, I can only believe that it happens for some higher reason.
Ah, yes, J.B. Rhine! Read a lot about him as a kid trying to figure out what was happening to me. And Duke University, Edgar Cayce, Travis Walton ... lots more! And mind you, back in those days, videos meant more as there was no such thing as Photo Shop!
Thanks for the memories. ;)
One has to understand it on the deepest levels, right through to the conscious levels. Otherwise, it will not work.
read Lynn McTaggart's 'The field'. she explains that the gift is inherent in everyone and everything. Ie, the representation and flow of reality, in it's component parts, the whole and the organized bits of it, that we might call humans, or their energy and integration with the whole energy pattern.
She explains how this exact problem came up in science, where one team of 'believers' or more correctly 'knowers' ('believers' is a derisive term used by those outside of the knowledge of it) did some very rigorous psychic experimentation. The experiments came out to a state of near perfection in proofing psychic capacity/phenomena.
Some 'non believers' tried the same test, done the same way., they found that the test did not come out positive, it came out negative.
Then, one of the scientists got an idea,and made sure to purposely gather non believers, or debunker type scientists into groups of testers and those who understand it, or believe in it, they were also grouped into testers. ie, multiple groups of each type. Then they added in an extra twist. An Ambivalent (meh!) group.
Results of this meta test regimen, where all groups did the SAME tests that they all agreed on as being 100% conclusive to their limit to discern and argue a given point:
The various groups of debunkers, they received negative results, meaning, no psychic sensitivity of any kind, as a proven point in fact.
The various groups of believers, they received positive results, meaning they found perfect psychic sensitivity as proven point in fact.
The various groups of 'meh', ambivalent (don't care one way or another), they received ambivalent, or inconclusive results.
The result of the meta test seems to be clearly showing that the PEOPLE are the key operating point here. That it is indeed a consensus reality which all have an effect upon and within. You are what you project yourself to be.
These are not ambiguous results.
These are not insignificant results.
Now.... Curtis and mostly Chinaski, I do believe that we have had this exact conversation Before.
Now, where is your memory of those moments... and why are we going down this exact same road again, when this has all been covered before???????
Do you suffer from a mental block on this subject? the data seems to indicate so. one you cannot get by, as we have covered this subject before?
I have told you clearly where to go and get the data and how to investigate this subject for yourself.
Deal with it, look at it, find it, find the block in yourself. It's not me guys........ it's YOU.
The science ---is clear.
The phenomena (or anything like it or of it's type)...and the reality of the universe that underlies it... has been abundantly proven thousands of times. It does indeed clearly illustrate that it is the PEOPLE that are the problem and the solution, that it lies in the hands of the reality formation aspects of the INDIVIDUAL, in a space of consensus reality.
As for the given posts, someone DID find them and we DID have a pm or two on the subject and we shared some bits of conversation on the topic and the nuances of what was done, how it was done, the methods, the why, etc. As I stated earlier, one does not simply throw that kind of data on the street, for everyone to play with. since you don't know how this works, or what it means, you're more than a bit in the dark on the ramifications.You have to truly go to the point of understanding it yourself, it cannot be externally forced, it's your own trip- not mine. it's not a cop out, it's a reality formation aspect.
The universe and reality formation expects the individual to get off their ass and get sh*t done, on their own. Ie, the universe cares not one flying fornication what you expect or feel, in any negative projections, no matter how soft they may be seen as. That... if you can't be bothered to integrate it into the self on the deepest levels and seek it on the deepest levels, then... you'll not get it. Ever.
It will remain a major suck to be you, until you turn it around inside of yourself. Until then, the universe could not give a good god damn what you do, but it won't be that, will it? (going clear and accepting it and turning the corner in the ego self)
Some deep part of yourself will have to 'give it up', and just let it go and find the way through the block that is inside. Until then...nothing. As that's the way it works, for all the right reasons.
Think it through. It's that way...for all the right reasons. Arguing the subject does not amount to a single fly covered pile of crap. It's meaningless. The problem is the projection of self, as reality, into the energies that form reality.
And that's about all she wrote.
I think that one doesn't necessarily have to be an exceptional person to have psychic abilities, or spiritual experiences, which are even better.
I've had both, but in my experience, I had to work for them.
I had to clean up my act.
Phasing out addictions, cleansing, sticking to a good diet and getting adequate exercise, finding the best possible environments and best people to hang out with, seeking out the best teachers, studying and practicing meditation, yoga, prayer, etc., and most of all, facing myself and reality as honestly as I possibly can.
I still slip and slide a lot, but there's a central core that I've developed that's devoted to finding the most direct experience of truth, and to de-programming myself from cultural conditioning.
Though I try not to be fanatical about it...:shocked:
And to keep a sense of humor...:jester:
Sometimes I think the highest experiences can come about, paradoxically, from a simple willingness to fully experience and process the lowest points that I have no doubt karmically created for myself. no matter how much I would simply like to block them out or numb myself down.
That's how we often come to appreciate and be grateful for the things that we ordinarily take for granted.
Being in that attitude of gratefulness opens us up to our highest potential, and unblocks the limitations we put on ourselves, allowing for new experiences that provide growth potential to manifest.
Everyone's path is different, everyone gets a different dose of how to deal with it and how to grow with it.
Or to walk away from it, whatever the case may be.
My prior post seems a bit harsh, and I might clean it up a bit. I have no nasty thoughts, or a furrowed brow/finger pointed at chinaski or Curtisw or anyone else who may not be getting this.
My mode of expression is not about being in a not caring state, but that the more inert energies involved are directed by beings of energy who protrude into this protruding space. Ie, the people and the energies that form this reality are from similar stock. The raw energies, are not of consciousness (as we recognize it), but the people are. Thus the energies do not care, one way or another. It is a flowing energy, that is responsive to manipulation, responsive to changes in flow.
Since we are made up of such 'dimensional protrusion matter forming energies' ourselves, we can also have a say in such flow. In the same way that a 'organized grouped pattern of dimensional protrusion' (me or you) may pick up a rock or object (dimensional protrusion that is organized in a way we call inert), an object's energies that are formed by geometric and vibrational baseline norms (atomic lattice), but 'inert' on the 'person' level. (person as a doorway, something far more organizationally complex)
It's a case of not wanting to engage the limits in people, limits that may form into rejection and mental blocking in the given self..combined with a need to self protect from those who may live/be that reaction/action 'set', in mental construction.
It's a case of trying to form a balance point of explaining the self, to those who probably do not have the mental patterns within themselves (yet) to understand where I'm coming from, what I'm trying to say.
How does one not live within crushing limits at the same time they do not engage the attack function that hides (at some level and condition) within all of us who may be incarnated?
It is similar to the case of the rich person who is second-third-fourth-fifth generation money, they feel like all they are and all they may be ....is threatened into death and a downward spiral.. if ...the average person in the street tries to claim their stolen and accumulated energies - back from the rich person. The rich person feels they must tear down the street level being who is simply trying to regain stolen ground, as the person in the street is dying from the unbalance and destitution that is caused partially (cumulatively) by the man who lives the life of elitist privilege. There is no realization in the person who is elitist that they live via death and killing, in their accumulation.
In a similar way, the person who has no experience in this subject area feels deeply threatened by the awakening of others, whether that 'credulity' aspect of disbelief and not understanding, is deserved or not.
Basically, those who do not understand this subject area of the thread's intent, they will reject, or dismiss, or whatnot.
BUT..if they go into attack mode, it can be nothing else but an aspect of their own self created parameters of being.
And, if those parameters of being create a logic and action path that interferes with my attempts to 'be' (by my own knowledge and experience are not just harmless but enlightening), then I will have to formulate a response that is appropriate to the thrust.
The subject area is guaranteed to create an impasse in some, a limit they may have in the self. A limit that will externalize, that they will engage others with... as a projection of self in order to gain a comfortable reflection that maintains the self's egoic parameters. Tilting at this particular windmill. It is entirely understandable and is part of the human condition.
To balance this exploration of being with all areas of potential in the group of humans who are incarnating at this time. To go forward, inch by inch, with as little damage as possible, but to still move forward.
To whit; to not spend the next six months explaining myself, again...
Basically, I respect everyone's personal level of not understanding this area of being but I will not allow that position to be projected upon me as a limiting factor. The end.
Carmody, we certainly have had this conversation before. and we may be having it 6 months from now!:) it's because you either outright avoid answering the questions I've asked, or you answer them in a very circuitous, convoluted way. to argue that this is somehow due to my lack of understanding is backwards and very obtuse. it's a classic way of wriggling out of your responsibility as the other half of this conversation.
and i'm not attacking you. this, I often find, is another way deflecting questions or genuine inquiries: playing the victim. where have I attacked you? I've asked you very reasonable questions, and in a very respectable way.
i'm not threatened by others awakening at all; I encourage it! as I said, I am *not* a debunker. I haven't accused anyone of credulousness; in fact, ive said over and over that I *do* believe people are having these experiences. but the ones you report stand out for obvious reasons, and ive asked you questions and taken you to task for it for equally obvious reasons.
I agree with you - the science is indeed clear. but if I want science i'll go read a book, or read long, ponderous articles on the net. in you I have someone I can speak to, in real time, and ask genuine questions of and hopefully get genuine answers back. because you've had some amazing experiences, not by chance, but ones you have claimed to have made occur on your own. look, it's exciting for me! you must understand: I've heard many, many people claim outrageous talents throughout my life...and basically every one of those claims has been empty. why is it then that when a genuinely curious individual asks an allegedly hyper-metaphysically talented individual for a demonstration of these talents, he is always condescended to ("you are not ready" " you are not spiritually mature" etc) or made out to be an "attacker" or a "debunker"?
and I want to clear something up: I am *not* a disbeliever. this is another strawman accusation. now, nor am I necessarily what you'd call a believer. my ass is sitting firmly on the fence, you see. asking me to believe some of the things you claim to have done without the slightest shred of evidence would require the religious fervor of a fundamentalist. and I am not a man of "faith". I do not consider a mindless belief in something, completely lacking in sound reason, a virtue. unless, of course, I have a reason to. and that's all i'm saying to you, my friend: give me a reason. give me something! anything! this has nothing to do with me and my ability or lack thereof, or of my spiritual journey, or of my beliefs or disbeliefs; I have made no claims of psychic or telekinetic ability -- you have, my friend...and i'd love to see it!
I am not regarding you with a furrowed brow either brother. look, as ive already said: I *like* reading your stuff! i'm glad you're around! this isn't a malevolent attack! I can't say that enough. stop making it one, ok!?! it's not an accurate assessment, and you know that.
p.s. heretogrow, I'm sorry ive upset you!!! please pm me if you have any questions or concerns, ok?;)
This is not really exceptional to most but kinda interesting for me. And this is my ego-self talking if it feels like I have some influence to the events.
We moved to a new place. The lawn was devoid of vegetation. Re-sod too expensive, had money to reseed (for 1 acre), no money for broken sprinkler system. Must time seeding with weather pattern. Missed first chance of 2 days-in-a-row Spring shower - dang! Would rain again next Monday. Seed down over the weekend, hoped for rain. And boy! Did it rain. It don't remember it ever rained so much in Spring. Someone said it rained everyday but 3 out of May this year. The farmers were way behind and had to switch from corn to soy. The weather loved me, I thought. The neighbor said I picked the right year to plant grass. I must have.
June 15, Would take the kids to Disney World. Checked weather forecast, 10-20% chance every other day for the whole week. Heh! not bad but couldn't be so sure so asked the nephew to come and use the 2 hose sprinklers if it would not rain 2 days in a row.
Tuesday, nephew called to know how to water the lawn. He said it hadn't rained for 2 days and might rain in a couple of days. What? no rain for 4 days? My grass would all die. My mind could almost see the dying grass in the summer heat and I imagined there would be rain and thunder and light all coming down like crazy. Well! Must get on with the fun at the parks with the kids.
The park was fun, but the wait for the popular rides were horrible. By noon, one said 110 minutes wait. Skipped. To another. 90 minutes wait. Well no choice. Got into the line. After about 1/2 hours I realized it was a big mistake. The kids were hungry and they started to look depressed. I wished all these people would just disperse so we could get on with the ride and then go get some lunch. Not even 5 minutes, people started to leave and they left fast. What the? Oh! the ride was declared down for repair. What the hec! Must eat anyway. We went to grasp some foods. Came back. Still 90 minutes wait but no people. We went in to check out anyway. The ride was on and hardly 10 or so riders. Yippee! We even went for second and third round. We decided to check the 110 minute wait ride earlier. Oh I wished it would just be like that. No wait was such a treat.
We came up to the ride. No line! Huh? Oh the ride was down the attendant said. As we turned to walk away. He said the ride is now back on. We were first in line. For real?
Thursday, the renter called if my insurance would cover her car that got crushed by the tree. What? And btw, the tree got part of the house too. What the? Yes we had a horrible storm, she said. Huh? Called my sister. There was so much rain, she said, the streets were like rivers.
Came back on Sunday. Fallen trees were everywhere. It was worse than the one tornado that fell on North Minneapolis a couple years earlier. It took the city of Minneapolis a whole month to remove them all. The neighbor said his basement got flooded for the first time in 10 years he was there. Whoa! did I imagine that, I thought! Quite a coincidence though :o
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I was cleaning out my office and pitching many books.
I held off on one and it was left about two feet away in plain sight.
Bought a few years ago but never took the time to read.
Carmody ... won't ask for proof of sitting down 40 people or so ... but dammit ... you have convinced me (yet again).
The following clip from a Bashar talk may have some relevance to Chinaski's question, in that Bashar says there are rules governing the use of psychic abilities.
What one might gather from this premise is that a person with abilities, when asked to demonstrate them, may have to adhere to these rules so that a demonstration might not ensue, not because he doesn't have the ability, but because the situation is actually calling for a different response to the request.
There are many stories in various spiritual traditions about "masters" who, when asked to demonstrate their powers, simply refuse.
Not because they cannot perform, for in other circumstances, their powers are very evident.
Perhaps this is because what Carmody describes as "inert energies" are created in such a situation which would preclude such a demonstration, and/or possibly the refusal from the "master" is made on spiritual principle.
Whereas, when energies are flowing, such demonstrations will just naturally occur and the observers will benefit from them.
Whereas demonstrating upon demand might actually cause some harm, or the result could be a misunderstanding on the part of the observers of the nature and purpose of psychic abilities.
A true demonstration of power is not the same thing as a magician's trick.
The alchemy involved is much more complex.
Of course, the immediate argument that comes to mind is that to follow the course of least resistance would seem to indicate that a demonstration of powers would be the answer.
But that doesn't take all the factors into account that can be present in such a scenario, which could include the time, the place, the personalities involved and other factors not easily recognized.
In the case of asking a "master" such a question, traditionally, it would be considered a sign of disrespect and ignorance.
If one was truly sincere in one's motives, then one would simply take the time and trouble to be in the masters' presence frequently enough so that one was present when a natural demonstration would occur in the flow of events.
We have no such traditions here on Avalon, but the reasons for such traditions may be more universally applicable than would probably be obvious to an inexperienced initiate.
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The trouble with thanking posts is that some parts I agree with, or appreciate the insight, or the effort put forth, or in support of, or, or, or...
The other part is that some of it, I'm not in agreement with. Sigh... :moil:
In the scheme of life...if that's one of the few problems I've got, then thank you all for that reminder.
With love,
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The challenge is that it is human nature to claim to be special---or to put others on a pedestal.
Jesus gave a big hint---"Of myself I do nothing--It is the Father within"
Ramesh Balsekar said that the big obstacle to spiritual progress is the thought that "I am the doer"
So one can truthfully say that "I am the leading expert on x" years of experience and probably hard work validates that statement.
Psychic abilities are a gift as is healing energy---- ask any genuine healer and they will say that they cant heal every one and that the energy flows through them.
Jesus "healed" many yet he did not claim to heal.
It would seem that when people claim they have special powers and abilities the power diminishes and eventually the "gift" leaves.
After this the healer can become a conman after all they have a reputation to uphold.
Chris
I just returned from a walk in the forest.
I asked Tree for strength.
Tree said I already had it. I needed connection.
So we connected.
The Trees were louder walking out than walking in.
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For the best part, when a 70 pound woman needs to pick up the front of a truck, she will. That has been well documented...the incredible increase of strength. It is power.
It is for the most part only able to show up when the need is present for it to happen. That need comes from intention. The intention seems intrinsically interconnected with love...the power of love.
When I resort to a con, it disconnects me with authentic self that can be connected to love. It pulls me off center and into false pretense. The system gets incoherent.
But even the most disconnected person can be in a crisis and suddenly the love of Universe impinges. Then the person will never forget that love, hopefully and seek the mystery of where she came from behind the veils of of our masks. Then that one will possibly realize...I can put down the mask?
Being a conman is what we can give up along with the need to produce proof that leads to cons out of desperation...
Yes, I believe the desperation factor is at play when we have been untrue to self and we cannot allign with the miracles.
It need an intervention! Where are the angels of mercy? All around waiting to be invited?
Desperation at the lowest point calls miracles in itself! Think of all the redemption myths. So even the worst place of alienation from the POWER has angels.
And the conman is saved by the subtle miracle of feeling the Presence of not needing anything now. This is the miracle!
When the world of lies falls down around our head as it does when one goes into the madness of self deception, It's all for a good cause...the real time miracle of the power needing no proof..