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It is a good exercice for us to know and distinguish these two different points of view, ideas.

The two best links (I think) to follow their arguments:

Mattias Desmet: ...

How many of us have read Mattias Desmet's book? (Or Gustave Le Bon, Primo Levi and Viktor Frankl?( He gives one of the clearest explanations on what is happening today. I am sure not that many people...