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    The Times, Major UK newspaper: "So Trump was right the election was rigged"

    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/s...-too-n0x3lv7fv
    I am hitting a paywall. Can you copy pasta?

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    Rightnow massive amount of data dumped in John McAfee´s telegram channel.... massive.... do https://t.me/McafeeAfterlife
    go figure
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    Quote Posted by One (here)
    The Times, Major UK newspaper: "So Trump was right the election was rigged"

    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/s...-too-n0x3lv7fv
    I am hitting a paywall. Can you copy pasta?
    Here’s the part that comes up before you have to sign up for free trial. The title doesn't match the article. (so far)

    So Trump was right: the election was rigged. And our next one will be too

    Rod Liddle
    Sunday September 26 2021, 12.01am, The Sunday Times

    To what extent, do you think, is Joe Biden abiding by his solemn election pledge to “undo the moral and national shame of the previous administration”? You can judge for yourself by the television pictures of terrified Haitian refugees on the US-Mexico border being horse-whipped by mounted American rangers.

    Trump did not do anything like that. If he had attempted to, Hollywood and the partisan coastal media would have imploded in a plasma of outrage. And yet Biden has largely escaped their censure.

    I’m not sure, either, that the little old business in Afghanistan entirely banished America’s moral and national shame. Nor Biden’s inability to remember where the hell he is or who he is talking to; nor his geopolitical pig ignorance or his tendency

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    Rightnow massive amount of data dumped in John McAfee´s telegram channel.... massive.... do https://t.me/McafeeAfterlife
    go figure
    much love
    Thanks, Juan.

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    Now in telegram, Julian Assange opens his own channel..... oh oh oh
    https://t.me/JulianAssangeWikiLeaks
    enjoy and much love
    Dear Paula, do you think Bill will agree to open a group in telegram called project avalon, we can make it private and only members of the forum could join. just an idea. Much love
    honoring White Feather: SHIFT HAPPENED

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    Default Re: The Qanon posts, and associated US political analysis

    Quote Posted by betoobig (here)
    Now in telegram, Julian Assange opens his own channel..... oh oh oh
    https://t.me/JulianAssangeWikiLeaks
    enjoy and much love
    Dear Paula, do you think Bill will agree to open a group in telegram called project avalon, we can make it private and only members of the forum could join. just an idea. Much love
    Looks like another fake telegram account.

    'I need to reach a minimum number of followers so i can reveal it. Do you understand? If you are one of us - Share"

    I do not understand, at all 🙂 I don't think Julian Assange would have to beg for followers 🙂

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    BREAKING: Special Counsel John Durham has issued a new set of subpoenas, including to a law firm with close ties to Hillary Clinton's 2016 campaign (CNN).
    OK, holding my nose now while I go check CNN.com, posting before fully read so I can't evaluate how much narrative shaping and/or disinfo this includes....

    https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/30/polit...man/index.html

    Quote Durham issues fresh round of subpoenas in his continuing probe of FBI investigation into Trump, Russia
    Evan Perez bylineCNN Digital Expansion 2018 Katelyn Polantz
    By Evan Perez and Katelyn Polantz, CNN

    Updated 2:33 PM ET, Thu September 30, 2021

    Washington (CNN)Special Counsel John Durham has issued a new set of subpoenas, including to a law firm with close ties to Hillary Clinton's 2016 campaign, an indication that Durham could be trying to build a broader criminal case, according to people briefed on the matter. So far, Durham's two-year probe into the FBI's Russia investigation hasn't brought about the cases Republicans has hoped it would.

    The grand jury subpoenas for documents came earlier this month after Durham charged Clinton campaign lawyer Michael Sussmann with lying to the FBI in a September 2016 meeting. During that meeting, Sussmann handed over data purporting to show links between the Trump Organization and Russia's Alfa Bank. That tip became part of the FBI's investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election but the FBI ultimately couldn't find evidence of a link.

    In seeking additional documents from Sussmann's former law firm, Perkins Coie, investigators from the special counsel's office appear to be sharpening their focus on the Democratic political machinery during the 2016 campaign and efforts to tie Trump to Russia.

    Perkins Coie's clients in 2016 included the Clinton campaign and the Democratic National Committee. The law firm also hired on the campaign's behalf a research company that commissioned the dossier from ex-British spy Christopher Steele that alleged that Trump was compromised by Russia.

    Durham has already accessed reams of the law firm's records, such as billing records, meeting calendars and a log of documents that the firm protects under attorney-client privilege. Some of the newly sought-after documents have been guarded so far by attorney-client privilege.

    An attorney for the law firm didn't respond to requests for comment.

    Durham's new subpoenas could lead to a court fight over privileged information and draw more about the Clinton campaign into the open.

    While working for Perkins Coie, Sussmann also represented Rodney Joffe, a cybersecurity expert referred to in Durham's indictment as "Tech Executive-1." In 2016, Joffe, who has not been previously identified, worked with researchers to collect internet data about the Trump Organization that Sussmann took to the FBI.
    Durham's continued use of the federal grand jury in Washington, DC, signals that he could be interested in adding to Sussmann's charges or bringing cases against additional defendants.

    Still, more than two years after being commissioned by then Attorney General William Barr to investigate whether federal authorities improperly targeted the Trump campaign, Durham has little to show for his efforts. His special counsel probe, which has lasted longer than Special Counsel Robert Mueller's investigation, has so far brought only two lying charges against little-known figures, including the case against Sussmann, who has pleaded not guilty.

    The results have underwhelmed Trump supporters who had hoped former top FBI and intelligence officials would be prosecuted for "spying" on Trump and his campaign.

    Already the scope of Durham's probe has narrowed after Barr announced last year that investigators had found no wrongdoing by the CIA. Yet Durham has continued his investigation, largely in secrecy, working out of a non-descript office building near trendy Washington's Union Market.

    The case against Sussmann

    Durham's single charge against Sussmann relates to a September 2016 meeting he had with then-FBI General Counsel James Baker -- and is largely based on details that appear to rest on Baker's thin memory of the meeting. Baker told Congress in 2018 that he didn't remember Sussmann "specifically saying that he was acting on behalf of a particular client."

    According to Durham, Sussmann lied in that meeting, hiding from the FBI that he was working for the Clinton campaign, to whom he billed the FBI meeting time.
    By the time Sussmann met with the FBI, the bureau was already investigating Russian meddling in the 2016 election. But Durham alleges the Clinton campaign's involvement with Sussmann could have made a difference to the FBI, potentially causing the agency to change its approach to investigating the information Sussmann shared.

    The federal judge overseeing the case, Christopher "Casey" Cooper of the DC District Court, will likely weigh during court proceedings before a trial whether Sussmann disclosing his client to the FBI mattered. If Cooper allows the case to move forward, he could kick that question to a trial jury.

    In interviews with CNN, several former federal prosecutors criticized Durham's use of what's known as a speaking indictment against Sussmann, laying out a broader case detailing the suspected political motivations and conduct by several people outside of Sussmann's legal practice who aren't actually charged. The former prosecutors say a false statement charge is typically straightforward, and often laid out in a single sheet of paper.

    "There are two ways to take it: The way charitable and favorable to Durham is this is basically making a case for this being material," said Ken White, a former prosecutor-turned-white collar defense lawyer in Los Angeles who follows Trump-era cases closely. "The less charitable interpretation is, this is Durham doing what he's going to do, basically making his pitch for Trump as a victim."

    Sussmann's legal team, in a statement, has called the breadth of the indictment a political smear.

    They have already told the court they may challenge parts of his indictment for being irrelevant, in an attempt to keep them from the jury. And they maintain Sussmann committed no crime.

    Dirty Politics
    The larger narrative Durham describes lays out a practice not uncommon in politics and a world that's usually opaque to the general public -- in which campaigns traffic stories that could hurt their opponents, and sometimes try to get law enforcement to open investigations into alleged wrongdoing. At times, the research and authorities' reactions to the research will leak to the news media as part of partisan attempts to affect election outcomes.

    Lawyers steeped in Washington are often involved in opposition research efforts. Justice Department officials suspected a similar effort was in the works in 2020, when Rudy Giuliani sought meetings with top Justice officials to provide documents related to Joe Biden and his son, Hunter, while providing news organizations some of the same information, according to former Trump administration officials.
    These practices themselves aren't regulated by the law, and Durham hasn't charged as a crime any actions central to the opposition research itself.

    "Certainly it's routine for people with contacts in the government to be hired to try to get the government interested into launching an investigation that's advantageous for clients," White said. "It's all part of petitioning the government."
    John Podesta, 2016 Clinton campaign chairman, declined to comment on the tactics used by the campaign. But he called Durham's indictment of Sussmann an "exercise in diversion and obfuscation." He added that Barr hired Durham specifically to pursue a partisan investigation of Democrats and that after two years "he doesn't have a lot to show for it."

    An attorney representing the Clinton campaign declined to comment.

    The tech client

    Durham's indictment also portrays researchers working with Joffe as harboring doubts about whether the Trump-Alfa Bank information was anything other than innocuous email traffic. But the indictment cites snippets of sentences from emails, leaving out further discussion among the researchers that appears to show they firmly believed the Trump-Alfa Bank connection was suspicious and needed to be investigated.

    The indictment cites one email conversation in which one of the researchers suggests narrowly tailoring their findings to make a "plausible" case that there was something worth investigating about Trump and Alfa Bank. The rest of the email—left out by prosecutors in the indictment--continues: "If the white paper intends to say that here are communications between at least Alfa and Trump which are intentionally being hidden by Alfa and Trump, I absolutely believe that is the case," according to the email reviewed by CNN.

    The full emails would likely become a key part of a trial.

    Elsewhere in the indictment, Durham quotes an email sent to Joffe and others involved in the effort, in which one of the researchers wrote, "Let's for a moment think of the best case scenario, where we are able to show (somehow) that DNS communication exists between Trump and R[ussia]. How do we plan to defend against the criticism that this is not spoofed traffic we are observing? There is no answer to that," the indictment noted.

    The unnamed researcher continued, "We cannot technically make any claims that would fly public scrutiny. The only thing that drive[s] us at this point is that we just do not like [Trump]."

    Joffe also wrote that the suggestion of Trump being tied to a Russian bank would be a "jackpot," according to the indictment.

    But additional emails reviewed by CNN appear to show that after expressing their skepticisms in late August 2016, the researchers expanded the scope of their research and believed they should show their findings to the FBI.

    In a statement to CNN, Steven A. Tyrrell, Joffe's attorney, said Durham's indictment is "full of cherry-picked portions of emails and selective facts that gratuitously present an incomplete and misleading picture of his actions and role in the events in question."

    Tyrrell said that his client "stands behind the rigorous research and analysis that was conducted, culminating in the report he felt was his patriotic duty to share with the FBI."

    Trump-Russia Suspicions

    While the Durham indictment details alleged dirty tricks by the Clinton campaign, there's also a big part of the 2016 story that's missing from it.

    By the time Sussmann met with the FBI, the bureau was already investigating a Russian hack-and-dump campaign aimed at damaging Clinton. Podesta and the Democratic National Committee were targeted by Russian intelligence agencies and their private emails were released publicly, and a separate Russian bot network fed anti-Clinton propaganda online.

    Mueller's report found that the Russian effort was aimed at least in part to help Trump win the election, and that Trump's allies welcomed and even encouraged that help.

    Trump himself fed the suspicions. In July 2016, Trump publicly encouraged Russia to target Clinton. "Russia, if you're listening, I hope you're able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing, I think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press," Trump said, making reference to thousands of emails that at the time the FBI said had been deleted and not recovered as part of its investigation of Clinton's private email server. The FBI that month had closed the investigation of Clinton and recommended no charges.

    Durham also doesn't write into his indictment of Sussmann additional reasons why the FBI had suspicions about Trump and Russia. American intelligence was taking in tips on multiple fronts, and ultimately investigators looked at a handful of Trump advisers, including campaign chairman Paul Manafort, as well as foreign policy contacts George Papadopoulos and Carter Page, who had contacts with Russians.

    Previously, Durham spoke to witnesses and gathered information about the federal government's investigations related to both Papadopoulos and Page. A few of the interviews Durham considered holding never materialized this year, according to several sources familiar with Durham's work.
    This story has been updated.



    some comments here:

    https://gab.com/RetCivServ/posts/107021933290888382

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    @PepeLivesMatter17 If you take out the counsel for a crime syndicate, it's an indication you're about to take out the syndicate. Sussman was the counsel for HRC, her campaign & the DNC.


    Marc Lawson

    @RetCivServ @PepeLivesMatter17 But Lisa Page's husband is the judge on the case. .....



    Maurene Comey - SDNY
    @POschiff

    @RetCivServ @PepeLivesMatter17 That’s why she was so distraught about 4-5 weeks ago when the pictures surfaced of her & slick walking on the beach in the Hampton’s. She knows the gig is up.
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    Now in telegram, Julian Assange opens his own channel..... oh oh oh
    https://t.me/JulianAssangeWikiLeaks
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    Dear Paula, do you think Bill will agree to open a group in telegram called project avalon, we can make it private and only members of the forum could join. just an idea. Much love
    Hello Juan,

    I began the registration process for telegram until they asked for my cell phone number. Did you know there’s a Project Avalon twitter account? It’s been around since 2017, with only 1,127 followers. There's an Avalon Facebook account, but Bill isn't associated with it.

    Some questions that come to mind on opening a Project Avalon telegram account are:
    • What are the benefits to a telegram account?
    • Who would maintain it?
    • Who has the time to maintain it?
    • Who would want to take the time to maintain when you can just pop on to the forum?
    If there was an account, I’d not be a frequent visitor. As it is, I’m cutting back on sifting through the negativity and deceit. Time for quietude and balance.

    Much love back,
    Paula
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    People are under the illusion that Telegram is somehow more secure, when the truth is, it is more obscure.

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    RED OCTOBER
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    I'd consider this Scavino giving us a 'wave' (nod) about this being Red Oct.


    Dan Scavino always teasing Q-drops related stuff - wonder if he's just trolling, trying to keep Q and Trump relevant, or what?

    (I suspect he was a primary member of Q posting team once they entered the (seemingly to me anyways) 2020 electioneering phase of the Q drops/posts)

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    Stew Peters speaking truth to power.... It's time We the People demand term limits 100%... no more Pac or interest group funding audit all financial including family members. No more PERKS & a stipend pay for all politicians, Serving in Politics should be a service not a get rich.

    https://rumble.com/vn7ffn-leaks-comm...g-nytimes.html


    Source: https://www.rumble.com/video/vkl9ax

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    Sidney shares something about how our elections are run that is shocking... some politicians have known for 20 years...


    https://rumble.com/vn2t1v-sidney-pow...-outcomes.html



    Source: https://www.rumble.com/video/vkgmx5

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    No strictly Q, but related in the sense that the presentation is about the chinese assisting in the collapse of the NWO and also communism.

    How China Will DESTROY The NWO… & Itself



    Man In America
    1 October 2021

    Who’s behind all the chaos in the world right now? Is it the NWO or the UN or the Rothschilds or the Zionists? Or is it the CCP? Today I’m going to show you how the CCP is Frankenstein’s monster, and why I believe it’s going to collapse the entire globalist agenda… along with itself.

    Sources:
    Mao funded by globalists
    http://themillenniumreport.com/2019/0...

    Mao & Yale
    https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/Q99...

    Rockefeller & Mao
    https://timesmachine.nytimes.com/time...
    https://discover.hubpages.com/educati...

    Soros Op-eds
    https://www.finews.asia/finance/35336...
    https://www.wsj.com/articles/xi-jinpi...

    Xi: Soros “Son of Satan”
    https://www.israel365news.com/197423/...

    Global trade with China vs US
    https://cdn.knoema.com/infographics/K...

    China’s 5G global infrastructure
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D0FkbfPX0...

    China’s dominance of REMs
    https://www.scmp.com/news/china/diplo...


    CCP on verge of collapse

    Evergrande, financial collapse
    https://www.theepochtimes.com/chinas-...

    Famine
    https://backtojerusalem.com/coming-fa...

    Quite CCP movement
    https://global.tuidang.org/

    3 gorges dam
    https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/p...
    In hoc signo vinces / In this sign thou shalt conquer

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    .....................
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    We've been here before, but this one caught my eye, particularly with recent events in NK and Taiwan:




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    Quote Posted by RunningDeer (here)
    Quote Posted by betoobig (here)
    Now in telegram, Julian Assange opens his own channel..... oh oh oh
    https://t.me/JulianAssangeWikiLeaks
    enjoy and much love
    Dear Paula, do you think Bill will agree to open a group in telegram called project avalon, we can make it private and only members of the forum could join. just an idea. Much love
    Hello Juan,

    I began the registration process for telegram until they asked for my cell phone number. Did you know there’s a Project Avalon twitter account? It’s been around since 2017, with only 1,127 followers. There's an Avalon Facebook account, but Bill isn't associated with it.

    Some questions that come to mind on opening a Project Avalon telegram account are:
    • What are the benefits to a telegram account?
    • Who would maintain it?
    • Who has the time to maintain it?
    • Who would want to take the time to maintain when you can just pop on to the forum?
    If there was an account, I’d not be a frequent visitor. As it is, I’m cutting back on sifting through the negativity and deceit. Time for quietude and balance.

    Much love back,
    Paula
    well ... al plataforms down icluiding twiter only telegram working right now, and anonup and gab..... let the show begin, so much love dear Paula, enjoy the show we have been waiting for many life times, huge hug
    honoring White Feather: SHIFT HAPPENED

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    Check out the potential match-up between the Pandora Papers and Q231, 396 and 501 P_Pers



    Trump is suing for access to his Twitter account.

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    Here's to honoring all the great Patriots that stood strong & believed and were a part of the great awakening even when everything around seemed the darkest.

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    Quote Posted by betoobig (here)
    well ... al plataforms down icluiding twiter only telegram working right now, and anonup and gab..... let the show begin, so much love dear Paula, enjoy the show we have been waiting for many life times, huge hug
    Yes, Juan, let the show begin.

    Huge hug, back.

    I’ll add the thread link here: Facebook Falls after Whistleblower on 60 minutes also Down on all platforms!

    At present, there are 124 folks viewing it.





    I’ll add Mountain_Jim’s post about how Project Veritas will expose Pfizer this evening.

    Quote Posted by mountain_jim (here)
    Some say it's not the FaceBook 'whistleblower', but the Project Veritas expose on Pfizer scheduled for tonight, that 'they' want to suppress the social media spread of.




    https://twitter.com/sheeraf/status/1...316503057?s=20



    (IOT - Internet of Things - what some say the jabbed bodies may be becoming )


    https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/fa...global-outages


    Quote Facebook, Instagram, WhatsApp Down Worldwide After DNS Records Vanish; Employees Badges Reportedly Not Working

    ....

    Internet security researcher Brian Krebs tweeted:

    Confirmed: The DNS records that tell systems how to find Facebook.com or Instagram.com got withdrawn this morning from the global routing tables. Can you imagine working at FB right now, when your email no longer works & all your internal FB-based tools fail?

    To be more precise (and Geek Factor 5) the BGP routes serving Facebook's authoritative DNS were withdrawn, rendering all Facebook domains inaccessible. That's per @DougMadory , who knows a few things about BGP/DNS.

    Searching for Facebook's DNS records comes up empty-handed.

    https://twitter.com/kevincollier/sta...172291074?s=20




    https://twitter.com/BOOB_level/statu...786347521?s=20

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    the facebook "whistle blower" was saying that facebook should censor more......... if you watch the interview it's pretty clear this is just a stunt to try and gain support for further censorship.

    Hard times create strong men, Strong men create good times, Good times create weak men, Weak men create hard times.
    Where are you?

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