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    Quote Posted by ThePythonicCow (here)
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    Just saw this on FB this morning. From Brooks Agnew. "Occasionally we meet souls who are powerful enough to shift universes. Juan O Savin"

    The big reveal?
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    Recall it was Juan that indicated here was where the Q operation moved - sure seems the water is being heated up and nearing a boil?

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    Quote Posted by lisalu (here)
    Just saw this on FB this morning. From Brooks Agnew. "Occasionally we meet souls who are powerful enough to shift universes. Juan O Savin"



    The big reveal?
    Juan O'Savin finally reveals himself

    Part 1:


    Source: https://www.bitchute.com/video/MyIkWvJFHDj6


    Part 2:


    Source: https://www.bitchute.com/video/tVOUGp2SnRbh

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    ^ @4:55 in part 1:

    Quote This is the moment.......

    You were not afraid to be associated with the 17th letter of the alphabet!




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    It feel like my life ain't mine (Who can relate? Woo)
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    It feel like my life ain't mine

    [Pre-Chorus: Logic]
    I've been on the low, I been taking my time
    I feel like I'm out of my mind
    It feel like my life ain't mine (Who can relate? Woo)
    I've been on the low, I been taking my time
    I feel like I'm out of my mind
    It feel like my life ain't mine

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    I just wanna die today, I just wanna die
    I don't wanna be alive, I don't wanna be alive
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    I've been praying for somebody to save me, no one's heroic
    And my life don't even matter, I know it, I know it
    I know I'm hurting deep down, but can't show it
    I never had a place to call my own
    I never had a home, ain't nobody callin' my phone
    Where you been? Where you at? What's on your mind?
    They say every life precious but nobody care about mine

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    I feel like I'm out of my mind
    It feel like my life ain't mine (Who can relate? Woo)
    I've been on the low, I been taking my time
    I feel like I'm out of my mind
    It feel like my life ain't mine

    [Chorus: Logic]
    I finally wanna be alive, I finally wanna be alive
    I don't wanna die today, I don't wanna die
    I finally wanna be alive, I finally wanna be alive
    I don't wanna die, I don't wanna die

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    Are people taking these Mcafee drops seriously? Mcafee is dead, so it isn't him typing these posts. It could be anyone, anywhere in the world. This isn't Mcafee, and this isn't Q, no matter what anybody says.

    Many times this was drilled into the Q drops:
    *NO OTHER PLATFORMS.*

    I don't mean to be harsh, just asking the question. To me it smells of someone larping on the shoulders of Q to generate attention, and to distract or slide. I see no reason whatsoever to place any trust in this source.
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    Quote To me it smells of someone larping on the shoulders of Q to generate attention, and to distract or slide. I see no reason whatsoever to place any trust in this source.
    If so, it's Juan that is involved in the larping - he stated this is where the Q operation moved, for ongoing plausible deniability.

    I was already paying attention to Juan, granting him the possibility of being a (white hat op) insider. Our fearless leader here might feel the same, considering how often he provides Juan links.

    Like in all of these things, time will tell.

    That's a long way from 'trust'.

    It's true that Q said No Other Platforms, but that was while the chans and then 8kun had operational security - all of which is long past.
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    I wouldn't know how to define 'operational security'. If you mean free from interference, that has never been the case. The chans swim with shills, larpers and bad actors. The reason Q said No other Platforms was to separate the Q-team (dropping on the chans) from imitators. And we've seen many imitators trying to pass themselves off as Q, or being associated with Q, from that Austin Steinbart tw0t, to "Q on twitter", to Simon Parkes, now this Juan guy. I would disregard him, or whatever he has to say, immediately.

    Sadly, a disproportionately large chunk of these 800+ pages have been spent on hopium-mongers that no one has ever heard of - larpers and grifters hanging on the coattails of Q, or spooks trying to muddy the waters and throw you off-piste. And you guys - as wonderful and good hearted as you all are - continually fall for it. By all means let there be a sister thread for ancillary matters, but this thread should be dedicated to 100% Q Research, of the 4953 Q drops to date - for better or for worse. NOTHING ELSE.

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    Quote And you guys - as wonderful and good hearted as you all are - continually fall for it. By all means let there be a sister thread for ancillary matters, but this thread should be dedicated to 100% Q Research, of the 4953 Q drops to date - for better or for worse. NOTHING ELSE.
    I disagree with you totally on the above. And don't appreciate your insulting inferences about those who have remained with this thread continuing to fall for anything,

    Events and Trump-related election steal views/info since the last Q drop (19 months ago?) belong here under 'associated US Political Analysis' part of the current title, in my view.

    I stand by all of my posts in this thread, as never being about certainty, rather possibility.

    You are treating the Q drops something like how the Holy Bible is viewed by some.

    At this point, either they have ongoing value or they don't - we may be at a fulcrum point to determine that - Red October and all. Clearly the Great Awakening called for in the Q drops is now happening to a degree, and coming to a head it seems sometimes.

    Juan speaks of an underground white hat operation since JKF was offed, and I have always intuited that to be the case.

    I also intuited that the Q operation was real, and connected with the Trump Presidency, but events that have played out since so far have not indicated to me that it was successful.

    I never 'fell' for any other Q grifters - I am holding space for the possibility that Juan is not one - time will tell.

    Perhaps time will show that Juan is part of a grift - in which case our paying him attention was in error. (later: don't see how his unveiling in LV matched his earlier hype for the invent, after watching).

    operational security - the ability to provide drops/posts without having the post source being traceable = that was the way I interpreted things.
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    Quote Posted by mountain_jim (here)
    Quote this thread should be dedicated to 100% Q Research, of the 4953 Q drops to date - for better or for worse. NOTHING ELSE.
    I disagree with you totally on the above. Events and Trump-related election steal views/info since the last Q drop belong here under 'associated US Political Analysis' part of the current title, in my view.
    I give you that totally, I wasn't very clear. I speak purely in reference to persons/entities/social media accounts that insert themselves into the Q conversation, and take possession of that conversation for views, clicks, self-aggrandizement, etc. These are the larpers. Think Wilcock larping on the New Age community. You also have your disinfo (manure) spreaders, the sowers of false or poisonous seeds, operating to very precise [Clown In America] agendas and parameters.

    Some of these fraudsters have, in my view, nested themselves into this thread, and falsely captured the attention of readers. I have no idea if this O'Savin guy is legit, but I would keep him at *a r m 's l e n g t h*, and treat what he has to say with extreme caution. Once a slide begins, as we have seen many times, it can descend very quickly into La La land. There IS a real danger of that. That is all I'm saying. La La land is where they want you - and where they want you to be framed by outside perception. Example?

    This: La La Land.

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    I expected Juan to be someone, a big someone everyone knew or something like this but it's just a guy no one knows anything about but a guy with a story. Corey Good, David Wilcock, Simon Parks were all guys with no credentials really but a big story, then there is Charlie, and the list goes on even into and including Cliff High and more really when you look at their past history of proofs or hits if you will! They hit very little in truth but talk a lot. I'm not holding my breath on any of the posts or Juan because from what it appears now it's just the equal of dangling a carrot for the remaining masses all gathering in or under one roof making it easy to know and track all of them once they watch his videos. Tag you're now being stereotyped no doubt put into a category of anti-vax, anti democracy ranking along with all other Red believers or Right wingers whatever you want to call them. What about x22? What has he ever said that panned out? I mean I watched and waited for years like all of us and now we get nothing more or less with Juan and the big reveal than another same ole same ole! Disappointed isn't really correct for me but the only term I can come up with because I kick myself now for once more giving benefit of the doubt for a movement I now believe to be a sad community of naive and gullible but good natured people. I'm out personally on Q and all about him after this writing!
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    I wouldn't know how to define 'operational security'. If you mean free from interference, that has never been the case. The chans swim with shills, larpers and bad actors. The reason Q said No other Platforms was to separate the Q-team (dropping on the chans) from imitators. And we've seen many imitators trying to pass themselves off as Q, or being associated with Q, from that Austin Steinbart tw0t, to "Q on twitter", to Simon Parkes, now this Juan guy. I would disregard him, or whatever he has to say, immediately.

    Sadly, a disproportionately large chunk of these 800+ pages have been spent on hopium-mongers that no one has ever heard of - larpers and grifters hanging on the coattails of Q, or spooks trying to muddy the waters and throw you off-piste. And you guys - as wonderful and good hearted as you all are - continually fall for it. By all means let there be a sister thread for ancillary matters, but this thread should be dedicated to 100% Q Research, of the 4953 Q drops to date - for better or for worse. NOTHING ELSE.

    Don't fall for these cockroaches!

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    I’m appreciative of the “Q” thread. I’ve had to cut back on a number of threads in general. It’s easy to get lost for hours. Too, some posts are hard to read because of how they’re formatted. No judgement. It’s just how my brain works.

    The list of people I follow has shortened since I first began. Others I follow every now and again. Juan O Savin is still on my go-to-list. There’s a reason why Juan has come forward in the flesh. I’m curious to see what he has to say and what happens next.

    Since the beginning, I'm more curious than emotionally invested.

    ............


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    It might be a good time to add a link for new members and guests to the hodgepodge thread: “Other 'Q' conversations, including some Questions and Answers”. Back in the day there were a number of "Q"ish threads. Many of which went off topic so posts were transferred.

    It was a fair solution and great place for those that enjoy a good debate.




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    Travis View has made a career out of debunking/gaslighting Q-informed folks, often using the fringe folks behavior/beliefs and avoiding the drops content at all.
    Neon Revolt wrote long articles years ago responding and correcting errors in Travis's writings about Q.

    Travis has a talent for seizing on the fringes to trash all of it, a valuable MSM piece but he failed to kill the Q-accelerated Great Awakening narrative with these, it appears.

    https://www.neonrevolt.com/2018/11/1...reatawakening/

    Quote Aaaaaaanyway, #TapwaterTravis’ would have a leg to stand on… if his premises weren’t so immediately idiotic. In it, he assumes a couple things about Q’s efforts that are just… flat out wrong.

    What are these premises?

    1) That there’s no possible way Q could be true; therefore, it’s just an elaborate LARP.

    They say this, despite the well-known fact that Trump has operated on the Chans for a very long time, and the Chans being a home for Trump support online. Is it that far of a stretch to think that MILINT would harness the power of this community? But this is more to write about these Journalists’ inherent bias than anything else. Because no one has done anything like this before, they assume that there’s no way it would be done by Trump.

    Because… you know… he’s so the kind to be behold to these “norms” of behavior. He totally fits the mold out of which every President before him has been cast.

    2) That Q is trying to predict the future. You know, like some kind of Zoltar cabinet at the county fair.

    This is ridiculous. Q never claimed to be able to make exact predictions – especially on citizens’ timetables. Oh sure, there’s a lot of expectation and hope in the community that such-and-such would happen by X date… but that kind of prediction rarely comes from Q himself.

    Q is a military operation responding to real threats, in real-time, world-wide. Any “predictions” made need to be understood within that context of action-response-action-response. So, for instance, one thing these AntiQuated folks like to harp on is Q’s “failed” Kavanaugh vote confirmation prediction of 53 – 47, when in reality it came in at 51 – 49.

    Forget the fact that, yes, Kavanaugh was in fact approved by the Senate (at a time when it was unclear whether or not he would be).

    It was because Q was “off” by two votes that shows… he’s just a LARP with no credibility whatsoever!

    This belief is predicated upon another assumption these AntiQuated types make:

    2) Q is “just” talking to regular Americans.

    If Q is real, doesn’t it make sense that every single evil force in the world that Q is struggling against would be following his every word?
    https://www.neonrevolt.com/2018/12/0...reatawakening/


    https://www.washingtonpost.com/techn...-logan-strain/

    Quote On a live stream of “QAnon Anonymous” last week, co-host Travis View did something he had never done before — told listeners his real name. It is Logan Strain.

    The 38-year-old husband, father and professional skeptic from Southern California had catapulted himself from obscure digital marketer to widely quoted expert on QAnon — the extreme ideology that helped fuel the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol and other violence — in the span of three years.

    Driving this change was an increasingly popular podcast reaching more than 100,000 listeners and earning more than $60,000 a month. A related live stream on Twitch, which is where he publicly revealed his real name for the first time on Thursday, only added to that audience — and profit — for Strain and the show’s other two co-hosts.

    But Strain’s use of a professional pseudonym has complicated this success story.

    The Washington Post, which like other news organizations quoted him several times offering analysis of QAnon, was not aware that the Travis View persona was an invention, created for the anything-goes world of the Internet in 2017. Strain also used the name in real-world events, including for a panel discussion on online radicalization hosted by the Atlantic Council, a Washington think tank, in February, and a separate event for the group in 2019.

    Strain acknowledged that he did not consistently tell reporters and others interested in tapping his knowledge of QAnon that Travis View was invented, though an Atlantic Council official said he was aware of the pseudonym. Strain said he used the name to freely comment on QAnon — whose followers are known for harassing critics and journalists — without risking possible repercussions, including at work.

    “I guess this is part of Internet culture,” he said in an interview with The Post. “It was always assumed that if you were commenting on the Internet, your handle was not your real name.”

    QAnon reshaped Trump’s party and radicalized believers. The Capitol siege may just be the start.

    When The Post learned that Travis View was not his real name, through a comment he made during an HBO documentary on QAnon that aired in March, it asked him about the issue and prepared to add clarifications to stories that had quoted him. (The Post allows the use of pseudonyms only in extremely rare situations, usually regarding safety concerns. The Post alerts readers when pseudonyms are used.)

    < more MSM drivel at link >
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    The larpers, the click bait artists, the grifters in their mother's basements, and the intelligence agency bots are annoying, yes, but they also serve a purpose.

    Q, and those who follow similar paths, are not classical whistleblowers, to be found credible, or to be dismissed, depending on whether or not they speak accurately and honestly of what they actually know or have seen, and otherwise remain quiet.

    Q, and those who follow similar paths, are not traditional, "respected", experts in any particular speciality, where their advice is given higher regard because they have a track record (according to other previously ordained "experts") of experience, research, and reliable testimony.

    Q, and those who follow similar paths, are not classical news reporters (do we have any such remaining in this messed up world?), who accurately report the Who, What, When, Where, Why and How of events they witness.

    Q is more the bull in the China Shop of our conventional understandings, leaving it to each of us, individually and in small groups, to pick through the shattered shards to find and reassemble what we can find of value, in the light of our own evolving understanding.

    The larpers remind us that we must raise our own awareness, that we may better sift through the shards of our broken individual and collective understandings for what is of potential value, for what is true. No mortal being, not even our best selves of a day ago, are to be given carte blanche trust.

    We are elevating our discernment, increasing our awareness and understanding, individually and collectively, simultaneously at several levels, physical, energetic and spiritual, of being.
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    Quote Posted by Ratszinger (here)
    I expected Juan to be someone, a big someone everyone knew or something like this but it's just a guy no one knows anything about but a guy with a story. Corey Good, David Wilcock, Simon Parks were all guys with no credentials really but a big story, then there is Charlie, and the list goes on even into and including Cliff High and more really when you look at their past history of proofs or hits if you will! They hit very little in truth but talk a lot. I'm not holding my breath on any of the posts or Juan because from what it appears now it's just the equal of dangling a carrot for the remaining masses all gathering in or under one roof making it easy to know and track all of them once they watch his videos. Tag you're now being stereotyped no doubt put into a category of anti-vax, anti democracy ranking along with all other Red believers or Right wingers whatever you want to call them. What about x22? What has he ever said that panned out? I mean I watched and waited for years like all of us and now we get nothing more or less with Juan and the big reveal than another same ole same ole! Disappointed isn't really correct for me but the only term I can come up with because I kick myself now for once more giving benefit of the doubt for a movement I now believe to be a sad community of naive and gullible but good natured people. I'm out personally on Q and all about him after this writing!
    Ratszinger, I agree with many of the names you posted and with some of your sentiments. Feel free to pass along those you believe to be in the know. I’d gladly post the info.

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    Quote Posted by Ratszinger (here)
    I expected Juan to be someone, a big someone everyone knew or something like this but it's just a guy no one knows anything about but a guy with a story.
    I listen regularly to Juan O Savin, not because he's "somebody", but because he informs me with insights and reports that I find worth considering.

    Be that as it may, someone I've never heard of before, Doq Holliday @doqholliday, posted on a site I had never visited before that Juan O Savin is ex-Navy, and is working closely with JFK Jr,

    From https://anonup.com/thread/6997143

    Quote Juan o Savin is not JFK Jr and never claimed to be. He’s a Navy guy that has done a lot of work for the Kennedy Family.
    The above is not enough "evidence" to convict someone of a $5 parking ticket.

    But it does fit well with what else I've seen and heard and, for the present at least, consider the most likely scenario.

    Of course, I don't know, nor have squat evidence of, any of this.

    But the above is my present primary working hypothesis.

    If you find too that Juan O Savin informs you in some way that you find worthwhile ... then it makes sense to continue to listen to him.

    If not ... then not.

    Thus it is with anyone (even with one's self). There are no titles, offices, or resumes that take precedence over this basic responsibility to continue to inform one's self as best one can.
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    Quote Posted by Star Mariner (here)
    Quote Posted by mountain_jim (here)
    Quote this thread should be dedicated to 100% Q Research, of the 4953 Q drops to date - for better or for worse. NOTHING ELSE.
    I disagree with you totally on the above. Events and Trump-related election steal views/info since the last Q drop belong here under 'associated US Political Analysis' part of the current title, in my view.
    I give you that totally, I wasn't very clear. I speak purely in reference to persons/entities/social media accounts that insert themselves into the Q conversation, and take possession of that conversation for views, clicks, self-aggrandizement, etc. These are the larpers. Think Wilcock larping on the New Age community. You also have your disinfo (manure) spreaders, the sowers of false or poisonous seeds, operating to very precise [Clown In America] agendas and parameters.

    Some of these fraudsters have, in my view, nested themselves into this thread, and falsely captured the attention of readers. I have no idea if this O'Savin guy is legit, but I would keep him at *a r m 's l e n g t h*, and treat what he has to say with extreme caution. Once a slide begins, as we have seen many times, it can descend very quickly into La La land. There IS a real danger of that. That is all I'm saying. La La land is where they want you - and where they want you to be framed by outside perception. Example?

    This: La La Land.

    As I post this my wife and myself are quite moved by this picture! Even my wife, who I must say is a specialist from the neck up, a pure prodigy for anatomy reconstruction and even she had to say OMG!? Is this pic doctored? Do you know for sure this is real? I could not confirm that it is not doctored for her but I was also quite awe struck here at the similarity especially in key features my wife certainly noted also to the point it brought a tear to her eye to think JFKjr was still here with us! I'm stunned by this pic and find myself wishing I'd seen it before posting to be perfectly honest with everyone! For what it is worth my wife is a dentist retired and graduated from one of the finest dental schools in the country (3rd ranked the year she graduated) and she was moved to tears over this picture. If this is not doctored it is quite compelling!
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    For years I have felt that JFK Jr. was alive, ever since seeing his wife at the early Trump rallies. Now having seen Juan at the Las Vegas conference, I think it just might be JFK Jr. in disguise--a disguise that he has made into a separate persona for years now. His constant reference to 'justice' sounds like a man who wants justice for his father's murder. His references to the bible sounds like a man who has done a lot of soul-searching. Even his talk which was punctuated with him yelling at times, seems to be consistent with a man who has been under extreme emotional isolation and stress for the past 30 years. That full head of hair which surfaced when he took off his hat briefly, also seemed like Jr. The fact that he had Melania's exact parting dress indicates a very close, continuing relationship with Donald Trump. I can't imagine that dress is a replica.

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