QAnon - An Opposing Viewpoint - LARP, Psyop, Cult or Something Even More Sinister?

[Blastolabs]

To anyone who believes Q was simply a psyop or simply a way to get a corrupt Trump reelected...

Any social movement that opposing the existing power system eventually becomes absorbed and controlled by those in power.

The teachings of Jesus, the civil rights movement, the hacking group Anonymous, Q-Anon all eventually became controlled by the very group we are attempting to overthrow at this very moment in history.

Due to the nature of the anonymous way that Q communicated with the world it was very easy for fake "Q" posts to be sent along side the real ones.

Have you spent time reading what people consider the real Q posts?

I would urge you to do so

[Ratszinger]

Posted by Blastolabs (here)
To anyone who believes Q was simply a psyop or simply a way to get a corrupt Trump reelected...

Any social movement that opposing the existing power system eventually becomes absorbed and controlled by those in power.

The teachings of Jesus, the civil rights movement, the hacking group Anonymous, Q-Anon all eventually became controlled by the very group we are attempting to overthrow at this very moment in history.

Due to the nature of the anonymous way that Q communicated with the world it was very easy for fake "Q" posts to be sent along side the real ones.

Have you spent time reading what people consider the real Q posts?

I would urge you to do so

Mike Pompeo and Ezra Cohen Watnick are Q and just yesterday Pompeo posted this pic and this June 4, 2020 Q drop. I believe it conclusively proves they knew what was coming, the order and that we can look at that and see just where we are and just what comes next. Note the date bottom right! Look up the Q post from that date Voila!

[Sirus]

Posted by Ratszinger (here)

Posted by Blastolabs (here)
To anyone who believes Q was simply a psyop or simply a way to get a corrupt Trump reelected...

Any social movement that opposing the existing power system eventually becomes absorbed and controlled by those in power.

The teachings of Jesus, the civil rights movement, the hacking group Anonymous, Q-Anon all eventually became controlled by the very group we are attempting to overthrow at this very moment in history.

Due to the nature of the anonymous way that Q communicated with the world it was very easy for fake "Q" posts to be sent along side the real ones.

Have you spent time reading what people consider the real Q posts?

I would urge you to do so

Mike Pompeo and Ezra Cohen Watnick are Q and just yesterday Pompeo posted this pic and this June 4, 2020 Q drop. I believe it conclusively proves they knew what was coming, the order and that we can look at that and see just where we are and just what comes next. Note the date bottom right! Look up the Q post from that date Voila!

Mike Pompeo posted a screenshot of a Q drop??

[TomKat]

Qanon was a Bolshevik tactic called Operation Trust:

https://www.infowars.com/posts/q-ano...eration-trust/

[Kryztian]

'Q-Anon' Bears Striking Resemblance to Bolshevik Psy-Op From 1920s Known As 'Operation Trust'
Chris Menahan
InformationLiberation
Jan. 15, 2021
https://www.informationliberation.com/?id=62008

"Operation Trust" was a Bolshevik counterintelligence operation run from 1921 to 1926 aimed at neutralizing opposition by creating the false impression that a powerful group of military leaders had organized to stop the communists' takeover.

Here's an except on the "Trust" operation from pages 13-14 of Soviet defector Anatoliy Golitsyn's book, "New Lies for Old":



The similarities with the Q-Anon "Trust The Plan™" psy-op are remarkable.


From Wikipedia's article on Operation Trust:

Operation Trust was a counterintelligence operation of the State Political Directorate (GPU) of the Soviet Union. The operation, which was set up by GPU's predecessor Cheka, ran from 1921 to 1926, set up a fake anti-Bolshevik resistance organization, "Monarchist Union of Central Russia", MUCR, in order to help the OGPU identify real monarchists and anti-Bolsheviks. The created front company was called the Moscow Municipal Credit Association.

[...] The one Western historian who had limited access to the Trust files, John Costello, reported that they comprised thirty-seven volumes and were such a bewildering welter of double-agents, changed code names, and interlocking deception operations with "the complexity of a symphonic score", that Russian historians from the Intelligence Service had difficulty separating fact from fantasy.

That sounds like the Confucius-style nonsense put out by Q-Anon.

Article continues at: https://www.informationliberation.com/?id=62008

[onawah]

Part of an astute astrologer's (Ang Stoic) prediction for the time upcoming
Birth of a New Revolutionary Spirit – THE FORTNIGHT AHEAD (Jan 19-31)
ASTROLOGY OF NOW, The Week Ahead

"Jupiter’s square to Uranus also brings warning that we are squandering away too much of our good energy on nonsense, searching for meaning down the most absurdly twisted rabbit holes of convoluted theories. An approaching Mars will only agitate those reactionaries to act in ways which are misled, negative and destructive. The Jupiter/Saturn squares make the world more on edge. What it needs now is more positive revolutionaries, and if something needs to change for us to get more into the flow with what’s really going on, the key is definitely in the way we’re operating.

Enter Saturn…

The likelihood is that Saturn’s dominance in scientifically progressive Aquarius will apply a severely sobering, if somewhat depressive, effect on wild Uranian and Neptunian abstractions. Some healthy scepticism is necessary. Uranus, whose Taurean viewpoint on life is fundamentally reactionary in nature, oftentimes rooted in a backwards-looking perception of a ‘return to a Golden Age’. Neptune, dignified in Pisces, attempts to unify, but under the Saturn’s scrutiny, any nebulous evasiveness is also about to receive a harsh ‘coming down to earth’."

"In the course of today’s great reformation, this moment brings us one thing: the opportunity to become rapidly aware that it is time to end this infatuation we have with clinging to false realities which, for the most part, we inflict upon one another due to our obsession with passing off unproven concepts as something which may helpful or soothing.

Whether our erroneous beliefs and half-baked laws spawn from our continued adherence to monotheistic religions, archaic constitutions or misinformed conclusions that we read on Twitter on the bus ride home, we can no longer assume to believe anything we hear as gospel or truth. When we pledge our adherence to the words of a biblical prophet, a supreme monarch, an authoritarian dictator, president, or public celebrity who is the anointed influencer of some intersubjective entity, to subscribe to any ideology which is exclusive and divisive only perpetuates injustice and deprives us of our human dignity and fundamental freedom.

Just as the ancients failed to stabilise their empires due to their inability to support the arbitrary existence of the gods of Olympus, or of ancient Egypt, or of Babylon, so too now we suffer the collapse and the humiliation of our holy cows. Not one of the hypotheses of past ‘Golden Ages’ seems any more probable than any other because they ultimately lie outside the region of the probable knowledge of today. Therefore there is no reason to consider any of them, other than to agree that these beliefs existed only in the absence of science, as a subsidy to what we could not know, at most serving to expose the enormous limitations of humanity’s endeavour to understand the greater forces of nature that were and still are largely seen to be ‘supernatural’.

If our lives need meaning so that we may go on living, then we are awakening, en masse, to the fact that we, as humans, tend to distort and manipulate what we often fail to comprehend in order to make it mean just about anything, just to appease ourselves.

Here, at this Jupiter/Uranus moment, we get a glimpse at how many of our difficulties in life arise when we haplessly attempt to solve serious problems by applying enduring superstitious attitudes and magical, wishful thinking. We see how, for the most part, our adherence to nonsense ultimately fails to work because it only perpetuates the suffering. We also see the toxicity behind those who dogmatically propagate false negatives as ‘truths’. They are not helpful or soothing, they are downright dangerous and culpable of causing great injury and harm. These are the lessons imposed throughout 2021, and in particular, made even starker by the recurring squares between Saturn and Uranus."

(See the whole reading posted here: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...=1#post1405051 )
or here: https://angstoic.com/2021/01/birth-o...ree+Newsletter )

[Journeyman]

Posted by Sirus (here)

Posted by Ratszinger (here)

Posted by Blastolabs (here)
To anyone who believes Q was simply a psyop or simply a way to get a corrupt Trump reelected...

Any social movement that opposing the existing power system eventually becomes absorbed and controlled by those in power.

The teachings of Jesus, the civil rights movement, the hacking group Anonymous, Q-Anon all eventually became controlled by the very group we are attempting to overthrow at this very moment in history.

Due to the nature of the anonymous way that Q communicated with the world it was very easy for fake "Q" posts to be sent along side the real ones.

Have you spent time reading what people consider the real Q posts?

I would urge you to do so

Mike Pompeo and Ezra Cohen Watnick are Q and just yesterday Pompeo posted this pic and this June 4, 2020 Q drop. I believe it conclusively proves they knew what was coming, the order and that we can look at that and see just where we are and just what comes next. Note the date bottom right! Look up the Q post from that date Voila!

Mike Pompeo posted a screenshot of a Q drop??

Pompeo's final tweets have ended an hour earlier each day, counting down. There's been a few which seem to reference Q post signals. The RED6 wine, the other day a ship with a number corresponding to a post etc. Some more proofs, subtle ambiguous and deniable, but they are there.

With the White House going dark everything is being done according to the Q roadmap. Big day ahead.

[Jayke]

Posted by Kryztian (here)
'Q-Anon' Bears Striking Resemblance to Bolshevik Psy-Op From 1920s Known As 'Operation Trust'
Chris Menahan
InformationLiberation
Jan. 15, 2021
https://www.informationliberation.com/?id=62008

"Operation Trust" was a Bolshevik counterintelligence operation run from 1921 to 1926 aimed at neutralizing opposition by creating the false impression that a powerful group of military leaders had organized to stop the communists' takeover.

Here's an except on the "Trust" operation from pages 13-14 of Soviet defector Anatoliy Golitsyn's book, "New Lies for Old":



The similarities with the Q-Anon "Trust The Plan™" psy-op are remarkable.


From Wikipedia's article on Operation Trust:

Operation Trust was a counterintelligence operation of the State Political Directorate (GPU) of the Soviet Union. The operation, which was set up by GPU's predecessor Cheka, ran from 1921 to 1926, set up a fake anti-Bolshevik resistance organization, "Monarchist Union of Central Russia", MUCR, in order to help the OGPU identify real monarchists and anti-Bolsheviks. The created front company was called the Moscow Municipal Credit Association.

[...] The one Western historian who had limited access to the Trust files, John Costello, reported that they comprised thirty-seven volumes and were such a bewildering welter of double-agents, changed code names, and interlocking deception operations with "the complexity of a symphonic score", that Russian historians from the Intelligence Service had difficulty separating fact from fantasy.

That sounds like the Confucius-style nonsense put out by Q-Anon.

Article continues at: https://www.informationliberation.com/?id=62008

The article uses too many ‘wrap up smear’ techniques, claiming Q promotes war with Iran for example, which just isn’t the case for anyone informed in the Q movement.

David Whitehead does a really thorough rebuttal of the narrative the article puts forward. He remains open to the possibility it could be a giant well-crafted psyop but after going through all the evidence to the contrary and speaking to his contacts in the military and law enforcement, he’s optimistic that even if the globalists manage to install Biden tomorrow, the great awakening triggered in the Q movement has already created a revolution of truth tellers that’s lit a fire of awareness around the world and the globalists aren’t going to be able to put that genie of truth back into the bottle of suppression anytime soon.

As he concludes after a fair weighing of the pros and cons of the movement, at 1:08:00 mins — “What is Q?... It’s citizen journalism, that’s it.”

Which is the same conclusion Andrew Torba came to after hosting and watching the behaviour of millions of Anons on Gab.com.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=ILnw_E9WHnA

[Journeyman]

James True makes some interesting points around the Epstein Island story:

You know what the moon and Epstein Island have in common? We’ll never go there. So what if Epstein Island was just a set? If you were a billionaire, why have a temple with faux stonework and pretend three-dimensional paint you could only appreciate from afar? Look. Walls are 100% flat.

The Island is a movie set. The building is shaped like one of those telecom buildings you see built for efficiency. It’s been turned into a reality show set. Even the fake dome fell off in a hurricane. Plus, no pool? No shade trellises? No furniture? Even the owls were cheesy.

This kind of distraction is exactly what the federal government would do to keep you invested. Especially if knew Babylon was falling.

P.S. Babylon is falling.

Pt 1

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=sc0YoQUY9BM

Pt 2

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=x-_QfhO-F60

[TomKat]

Here's an excellent expose of the Q psyop:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=BmJrYhv1drw

just plain common sense.

[TomKat]

Posted by Jayke (here)
“The Plan” is simple: build.

-Build our families
-Build our churches
-Build our local communities
-Build our own internet
-Build our own economy
-Build around the communist culture until it inevitably collapses and we are all that is left standing

Reform your heart, reform your mind, reform the world.

In other words, there IS no plan...

[Jayke]

Posted by TomKat (here)

Posted by Jayke (here)
“The Plan” is simple: build.

-Build our families
-Build our churches
-Build our local communities
-Build our own internet
-Build our own economy
-Build around the communist culture until it inevitably collapses and we are all that is left standing

Reform your heart, reform your mind, reform the world.

In other words, there IS no plan...

Only in YOUR words TomKat. Feel free to believe or say what you like, it’s not like I’ve ever seen you say anything constructive on any thread, ever. If you interpret build as ‘do nothing’ then maybe you’re the one in the grip of a passivity psy-op. What is it you’re doing on a personal level to help usher in a better future? You got any community projects or great works under construction that people might find valuable? Maybe you’d like to take the helm of the Q community and dazzle everyone with your brilliant strategic planning. We’re open to ideas if you’ve got anything useful to contribute?

[TomKat]

It looks like the Army is looking for a few good psyop operators:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=PC7mFkxNT7g

[Jayke]

Posted by TomKat (here)

Posted by Jayke (here)

Posted by TomKat (here)

Posted by Jayke (here)
“The Plan” is simple: build.

-Build our families
-Build our churches
-Build our local communities
-Build our own internet
-Build our own economy
-Build around the communist culture until it inevitably collapses and we are all that is left standing

Reform your heart, reform your mind, reform the world.

In other words, there IS no plan...

Only in YOUR words TomKat. Feel free to believe or say what you like, it’s not like I’ve ever seen you say anything constructive on any thread, ever. If you interpret build as ‘do nothing’ then maybe you’re the one in the grip of a passivity psy-op. What is it you’re doing on a personal level to help usher in a better future? You got any community projects or great works under construction that people might find valuable? Maybe you’d like to take the helm of the Q community and dazzle everyone with your brilliant strategic planning. We’re open to ideas if you’ve got anything useful to contribute?

This new plan doesn't sound anything like the old plan we were told to trust. Sounds a lot like Q is throwing it back on us. Just saying...

Heaven forbid you might actually have to do something productive eh! Again, sounds like you’re the one whose been subjected to the passivity op. Q army is ready to build and get sh*t done while you’re still their expecting someone to come along and do all the work for us. You don’t need to ‘put on the armour of God’ to sit and eat popcorn, you put the armour of God on because it’s spiritual warfare. Plans change, evolve and adapt.

The plan has always been to galvanise the masses. Firstly to get involved in politics to get out and vote. Which was a huge success, only thwarted by the fact the political class went full banana republic to suppress the movement. Since the political leaders have now established that laws in America simply don’t matter anymore and people can just invent their own realities, that frees everyone up to do whatever they want. The new plan is to make the banana republic political class and their technocratic enablers obsolete as we build a new reality around them.

“You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something, build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete.” ― Buckminster Fuller

[araucaria]

Posted by Kryztian (here)
'Q-Anon' Bears Striking Resemblance to Bolshevik Psy-Op From 1920s Known As 'Operation Trust'
Chris Menahan
InformationLiberation
Jan. 15, 2021
https://www.informationliberation.com/?id=62008

"Operation Trust" was a Bolshevik counterintelligence operation run from 1921 to 1926 aimed at neutralizing opposition by creating the false impression that a powerful group of military leaders had organized to stop the communists' takeover.

Here's an except on the "Trust" operation from pages 13-14 of Soviet defector Anatoliy Golitsyn's book, "New Lies for Old":

Anyone wishing to follow this line of thought would do well to get to know this Anatoliy Golitsyn a bit better. I suggest an old thread of mine, starting here.

[Matthew]

Posted by araucaria (here)
...
Anyone wishing to follow this line of thought would do well to get to know this Anatoliy Golitsyn a bit better. I suggest an old thread of mine, starting here.

I'd seen this 'Hope as a weapon' elsewhere and it got my interest. Thank you for the extra thoughts and research on this, I'm going to have a look later 🌞

Search result 1 - Anatoliy Golitsyn by araucaria

Search result 2 - Anatoliy Golitsyn by araucaria

[TomKat]

Posted by Jayke (here)

Posted by TomKat (here)

Posted by Jayke (here)

Posted by TomKat (here)

Posted by Jayke (here)
“The Plan” is simple: build.

-Build our families
-Build our churches
-Build our local communities
-Build our own internet
-Build our own economy
-Build around the communist culture until it inevitably collapses and we are all that is left standing

Reform your heart, reform your mind, reform the world.

In other words, there IS no plan...

Only in YOUR words TomKat. Feel free to believe or say what you like, it’s not like I’ve ever seen you say anything constructive on any thread, ever. If you interpret build as ‘do nothing’ then maybe you’re the one in the grip of a passivity psy-op. What is it you’re doing on a personal level to help usher in a better future? You got any community projects or great works under construction that people might find valuable? Maybe you’d like to take the helm of the Q community and dazzle everyone with your brilliant strategic planning. We’re open to ideas if you’ve got anything useful to contribute?

This new plan doesn't sound anything like the old plan we were told to trust. Sounds a lot like Q is throwing it back on us. Just saying...

Heaven forbid you might actually have to do something productive eh! Again, sounds like you’re the one whose been subjected to the passivity op. Q army is ready to build and get sh*t done while you’re still their expecting someone to come along and do all the work for us. You don’t need to ‘put on the armour of God’ to sit and eat popcorn, you put the armour of God on because it’s spiritual warfare. Plans change, evolve and adapt.

The plan has always been to galvanise the masses. Firstly to get involved in politics to get out and vote. Which was a huge success, only thwarted by the fact the political class went full banana republic to suppress the movement. Since the political leaders have now established that laws in America simply don’t matter anymore and people can just invent their own realities, that frees everyone up to do whatever they want. The new plan is to make the banana republic political class and their technocratic enablers obsolete as we build a new reality around them.

“You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something, build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete.” ― Buckminster Fuller

In other words, we're back to where we always were, nothing has changed. Q was a fraud backed by empty promises, now reduced to riffing off the build-it-back-better crowd, telling us to go back to building our lives now that the goal of a Biden presidency has been achieved. If it walks like a psyop and talks like a psyop, it's probably a psyop.

[Jayke]

Posted by TomKat (here)
In other words, we're back to where we always were, nothing has changed. Q was a fraud backed by empty promises, now reduced to riffing off the build-it-back-better crowd, telling us to go back to building our lives now that the goal of a Biden presidency has been achieved. If it walks like a psyop and talks like a psyop, it's probably a psyop.

We never argued it wasn’t a psyop. We just argued what kind of psyop it was, and it most definitely isn’t a passivity psyop. Some of us never stopped building during the past 4 years. Look at Gabs growth for example, fuelled to a huge degree by the Q community looking for a new home after years of censorship. What have you built in that time? What have you done for your local community? Done to further the progress of humanity? You didn’t answer last time I asked. Care to enlighten us or are you just going to walk and talk like a troll until the inertia of the growing Q community steamrolls right over your superficially misinformed opinions?

[Savannah]

Posted by TomKat (here)

Posted by Jayke (here)

Posted by TomKat (here)

Posted by Jayke (here)

Posted by TomKat (here)

Posted by Jayke (here)
“The Plan” is simple: build.

-Build our families
-Build our churches
-Build our local communities
-Build our own internet
-Build our own economy
-Build around the communist culture until it inevitably collapses and we are all that is left standing

Reform your heart, reform your mind, reform the world.

In other words, there IS no plan...

Only in YOUR words TomKat. Feel free to believe or say what you like, it’s not like I’ve ever seen you say anything constructive on any thread, ever. If you interpret build as ‘do nothing’ then maybe you’re the one in the grip of a passivity psy-op. What is it you’re doing on a personal level to help usher in a better future? You got any community projects or great works under construction that people might find valuable? Maybe you’d like to take the helm of the Q community and dazzle everyone with your brilliant strategic planning. We’re open to ideas if you’ve got anything useful to contribute?

This new plan doesn't sound anything like the old plan we were told to trust. Sounds a lot like Q is throwing it back on us. Just saying...

Heaven forbid you might actually have to do something productive eh! Again, sounds like you’re the one whose been subjected to the passivity op. Q army is ready to build and get sh*t done while you’re still their expecting someone to come along and do all the work for us. You don’t need to ‘put on the armour of God’ to sit and eat popcorn, you put the armour of God on because it’s spiritual warfare. Plans change, evolve and adapt.

The plan has always been to galvanise the masses. Firstly to get involved in politics to get out and vote. Which was a huge success, only thwarted by the fact the political class went full banana republic to suppress the movement. Since the political leaders have now established that laws in America simply don’t matter anymore and people can just invent their own realities, that frees everyone up to do whatever they want. The new plan is to make the banana republic political class and their technocratic enablers obsolete as we build a new reality around them.

“You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something, build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete.” ― Buckminster Fuller

In other words, we're back to where we always were, nothing has changed. Q was a fraud backed by empty promises, now reduced to riffing off the build-it-back-better crowd, telling us to go back to building our lives now that the goal of a Biden presidency has been achieved. If it walks like a psyop and talks like a psyop, it's probably a psyop.

I'm getting tired of this and I'm going to start reporting posts like yours as abuse. You contribute nothing and come here to start fights. If you believe Q is nonsense then why do you give it so much time and attention. You clearly like to troll or your paid to troll. If you just didn't agree with Q you would have moved on to another thread by now. If you had some level of morality you would have politely expressed your views and moved on by now.

[TomKat]

Posted by Jayke (here)

Posted by TomKat (here)
In other words, we're back to where we always were, nothing has changed. Q was a fraud backed by empty promises, now reduced to riffing off the build-it-back-better crowd, telling us to go back to building our lives now that the goal of a Biden presidency has been achieved. If it walks like a psyop and talks like a psyop, it's probably a psyop.

We never argued it wasn’t a psyop. We just argued what kind of psyop it was, and it most definitely isn’t a passivity psyop. Some of us never stopped building during the past 4 years. Look at Gabs growth for example, fuelled to a huge degree by the Q community looking for a new home after years of censorship. What have you built in that time? What have you done for your local community? Done to further the progress of humanity? You didn’t answer last time I asked. Care to enlighten us or are you just going to walk and talk like a troll until the inertia of the growing Q community steamrolls right over your superficially misinformed opinions?

First, it's none of your business what I do with my time, and I'm not going to turn that question around on you. Second, you admit that Q is a psyop which you continue to promote. So why are your running psyops on this forum? Having an instinctive reaction against overt manipulation is not trolling. And what I'm doing about it is challenging your psyop. Is that so horrible? Isn't that what Avalon is about?