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    Q drops, #3520-3525, click to enlarge images

    https://qanon.pub/

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    Enemy of the People.
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    Jul 27 2019 12:51:46 (EST)
    https://twitter.com/DevinNunes/statu...72807480754177
    Farms produce ………
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    Jul 27 2019 13:01:26 (EST)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWYrcnehito
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    https://twitter.com/BreitbartNews/st...00277802291205
    Do you believe in coincidences?
    How do you clean 'dirty' money?
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    The President of the United States retweeted this graphic.
    Pause, re-read above.
    Pause, re-read above (again).
    Nature is unpredictable.
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    https://twitter.com/Comey/status/1155271446207389696
    Was the corn ripe for harvesting?
    It is now.
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    Quote Posted by Kerry Cassidy (here)
    Well that's strange that you or anyone in the Q group would take my remarks as "disparaging"... actually I was just stating the facts about what went on here on Avalon. I won't say my source except that they couldn't be closer to the story as a source. You can choose to ignore what I am saying but we know the mods quit and we know that certain other people had an issue with the whole Q groups... do the math. Whereas I actually agree with most of what Q has to say... but I don't follow it all that closely as most of the time it mirrors what i already know or what my sources tell me... only on a more superficial level.... So basically you misunderstand what I say and you also don't seem to be able to see the obvious... Oh well.
    What "secret cell" has infiltrated Avalon?

    Qanon wannabe's, groupies, fans?
    None of the above - just regular Avalon members and critics posting their research.

    Quote ...and apparently a Qanon group - not sure if it is just a bunch of Qanon wannabe's, or Qanon groupies, or Qanon fans, or a mixture of Qanon and their fans; I have no idea.

    Trying to get to the bottom of that.

    But they seem to have infiltrated the Avalon Forum and created a secret cell within it...
    Last edited by KiwiElf; 27th July 2019 at 18:47.

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    Quote Posted by KiwiElf (here)
    Cross posted for your information here:

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...65#post1306965

    Hi Kerry,
    Didn't you know, some are saying, "This is the Year of the Boomerang" (as in Karma)?

    If what Gaia said is correct, ie

    "Full of Trump supporters"
    ... then it's highly likely ATS are also Q supporters.

    Perhaps part of the reason you were banned was because of some disparaging and untrue comments you made in your recent video about some Avalon members who support & research the Q movement?:

    Skip to 35:50


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    KERRY: "Then there is something interesting going on at Project Avalon, the forum that's run by my ex-partner, Bill Ryan and apparently a Qanon group - not sure if it is just a bunch of Qanon wannabe's, or Qanon groupies, or Qanon fans, or a mixture of Qanon and their fans; I have no idea.

    Trying to get to the bottom of that.

    But they seem to have infiltrated the Avalon Forum and created a secret cell within it, so there's a bit of ahhh ...subterfuge and ahhh ... you know, drama going on over there - a bunch of Mods apparently quit ... ahhh Tommy, my ex-webmaster was tapped to try to set the thing right ... on the technical level and so that's something going on behind the scenes."

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    Yes. You really do have "no idea". Perhaps you should have "gotten to the bottom of that" before commenting.

    Respectfully, as you are a full member here on Avalon, there's no excuse for spreading false rumours about Avalon, its members - many who are longstanding - or the particular thread(s) in question.

    There is nothing of the sort happening on Avalon, or with the thread(s)', or members in question.

    (As stated by one of our longstanding & respected Mods, on behalf of Avalon, after your misinformed comments were drawn to our attention).

    Until recently, those threads have been available for all to see for the last two+ years.

    For your learned information, the main thread concerned was, at that time, the "most viewed" on Avalon for the last 18+-months prior to it being moved into the "members only" section.
    (I might add that it was Bill himself who added the first drops on the opening page of that thread).

    Perhaps you should have had a thorough study of that thread before making unfounded comments - in public - without actually checking your facts.

    As the thread(s) are now hidden from public view, there is no way for the public or your followers to check your "rumour" for themselves, unless they are members of PA.

    I believe you owe a number of Avalon members who post on those threads regularly and provide an enormous amount of research and evidence - particularly those you have offended and slandered - an apology.

    It's up to every reader of those threads to decide the validity of that information for themselves.

    With respect, it really doesn't say a lot for the accuracy of your research or reporting and has just added "more fuel to the fire".

    A sad day when someone of your standing & reputation has to resort to uninformed, unfounded opinions & idle gossip.

    I speak for most of the contributors to that thread (below);

    WHO/where did you hear that "rumour" from?

    Rather than derail this thread, please feel free to respond here:

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...tical-analysis
    The link for responding, leads back here...so here I respond...I’m very worried about Kerry and suggest we all hold her in our prayers...I’m glad you gave the time stamp for the reference as after 15mins of listening I was simply squirming and had to skip most of it. Haven’t seen her for a couple of years..shock. Eyes dead, energy on the floor, unfettered ego as usual, exhausted trying to stay relevant, the root of her problems imo. In addition to that large target on her back having been hit numerous times, no doubt. She needs to retreat, get out of the public eye and heal, but I guess her livelihood is now all tied up in it. What a mess. Sorry to see it.

    As for this thread, I’m glad I subscribed to it because I don’t think I could even find it otherwise, I can use the link from my emails and follow it every day, find the whole phenomenon fascinating and eye opening over and over. Whatever was wrong with leaving it as it was? I was deeply concerned by all the unnecessary drama over it, refused to get involved, so sad that it caused so much division and nonsense, wasted energy. And the loss of valued mods. Please God don’t let Avalon fall apart, I’ve said before and repeat, it is an invaluable resource unlike any other on the internet, despite the seemingly unending dramas. I suggest we hold Bill in our prayers too, we need an uncensored forum, given that all discussion is conducted with respect. I’m grateful to him for the platform, but as has already been pointed out, it is the great variety of highly intelligent contributors that have made it what it is today.

    Don’t let them divide us, these sly digs at Bill don’t help, say what you need to, then leave it. He’s doing his best to keep this place together. It can’t be easy. He’s not a gold digger, he can handle criticism, but give him a break. I think sometimes he tries to please the wrong people, the big egos that need attention....

    Once more I appeal to all readers if there’s any left in this ‘cell’ of Q whackos ; ) to pray for them both, their strength, protection, mental clarity, peace and wisdom, these pioneering researchers of the alternative view. They deserve our support, particularly if they go off the rails. Spiritual support is all I have to offer right now, please God, it helps.

    Finally, thanks for the thread, I skip a lot of the American political stuff, but there’s still loads of bacony, cheesey goodness!

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    LATEST PRAYING MEDIC

    He breaks down some past and current Q posts in a way anyone can understand. A good synopsis, especially for newbies, also brings forward old posts that pertain to current events.

    Blessed are the cracked, for they are the ones who let in the light!

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    Quote Posted by Phoenix1304 (here)
    these sly digs at Bill don’t help
    No, they don't.

    Quote Posted by Phoenix1304 (here)
    He’s doing his best to keep this place together.
    Yes, he is.

    Quote Posted by Phoenix1304 (here)
    It can’t be easy.
    It's not.

    Quote Posted by Phoenix1304 (here)
    He’s not a gold digger
    No, he's not.

    Quote Posted by Phoenix1304 (here)
    he can handle criticism
    Yes, he can.

    Quote Posted by Phoenix1304 (here)
    but give him a break.
    Thank you.

    Quote Posted by Phoenix1304 (here)
    I think sometimes he tries to please the wrong people, the big egos that need attention....
    And that's the only part of this that's incorrect.


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    Default Re: The Qanon posts, and associated US political analysis

    Q drops, #3526-3527, click to enlarge images - I'll add any new drops to this post - earlier post updated (above)

    https://qanon.pub/

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    Quote Posted by Praxis (here)
    Kerry, If you do respond to that person, please do not do it in the thread they linked.

    You can tell they have a vested interest in more views and post in that thread(as they all constantly tout how many views it gets like that makes it more legit).

    It is also 554 pages now to sift through so it would not be productive for you to respond in that thread.

    Please do respond as I would be very interested to hear your take but dont feed their ego game by giving that thread more views and posts.
    "To that person", sheesh...

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    From https://gab.com/NeonRevolt

    Quote Digs on "real life Bond girl" Nicole Junkermann are what triggered the massive DDOS attack on Voat today. She ties Epstein to Mossad and the Vatican.


    https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/...os_attack_and/

    Quote This post triggered a massive DDOS attack and took Voat down. Epstein, Nicole Junkermann, the Red Cross, and the Vatican connections.

    This kind of deep research rarely happens here anymore because shills and useful idiots downvote it to oblivion. Reddit is a joke now, a shadow of what it was 10 years ago.
    This post contains the main body of two Voat posts but there is much more research in the comments of the original posts on Voat and is still proceeding.
    The DDOS attack specifically targeted the url of this Voat post.
    Links to Voat may not work because attacks are ongoing. I linked archives if they are down.
    Post from Voat admin about DDOS attack (Alternative if down)
    Original Post and targeted url (Archive)
    The targeted post is a continuation of: The Epstein Associate Nobody's Talking About: The IDF-Linked Bond Girl Infiltrating the UK NHS....Nicole Junkermann (Archive)
    Excerpts are from this article that started the dig:



    I have a story to tell you. A story that causes my heart to pound and my blood pressure to rise as I type each and every word. A true story of a woman of great wealth and power, who rode on Jeffrey Epstein’s “Lolita Express” private jet on several occasions. She appears to be a German-born Israeli state intelligence operative based in London. An ex-model whose name appeared in the Panama Papers from the Mossack Fonseca leaks and who became embroiled in a FIFA corruption scandal with Sepp Blatter and his family. She is perhaps the closest example that you could possibly find to a real-life “Bond Girl.” Yet, she is almost completely unknown to the majority of us.

    This lady has recently infiltrated the NHS through the UK Department of Health and Social Care with the help of Matt Hancock MP, and her presence signifies a major threat to the data security of every citizen of the United Kingdom. Every single piece of data about you, your health issues, your blood type, the model of the wireless pacemaker keeping you alive, every detail of every embarrassing medical problem in the hands of the Israeli state apparatus and potentially sold off to the highest bidder. ..

    When I was first researching the Jeffrey Epstein case, I trawled through every piece of official documentation that was available. I knew what I was looking for and how very dangerous it was. I had begun attempting to identify state assets through their movements, actions, associations, and by good old fashioned detective work. I was interested in identifying any MI5 or MI6 agents, Israeli Mossad, CIA, or any other part of a nation states spying apparatus. It’s possibly one of the most dangerous hobbies on earth, spy hunting, and if I’m honest, I’m not even sure why I’m doing it. Regardless, Jeffrey Epstein’s sweetheart deal was probably what they would give to a foreign intelligence operative. Epstein was a perfect place to begin fishing for potential spooks....


    The Israeli Intelligence Connection

    ...The ominously named “Reporty Homeland Security” was the first incarnation of what is now called “Carbyne911” and is referred to as simply “Carbyne.” Described as a “global leader in public safety technology,” Carbyne is a call handling platform app that allows you to, amongst other things, stream any ongoing emergency directly to the responding emergency services. ....They can pinpoint your location, even indoors, to within three feet, and they claim that they can even collect data from dropped calls.

    One of the directors of Carbyne is Nicole Junkermann. The chairman of the board of directors is Ehud Barak....Another of Carbyne’s directors and board members is Brigadier Pinchas Buchris, the former Deputy Commander of an elite IDF operations unit and former Commander of the IDF 8200 Cyber Intelligence Unit. Amir Elichai is the Founder and CEO of Carbyne, he is also a former Israeli Army officer who served in various positions in the special elite forces and the intelligence corps. Alex Dizengof is Carbyne’s Co-Founder & CTO. He’s described as a Software Architect and Algorithms Developer. Dizengof had previously developed machine learning algorithms for robots and mobile platforms, as well as cyber security software for the Israeli Prime Minister’s Office.

    ...Matt Hancock, Member of Parliament for West Suffolk and Secretary of State for Health and Social Care in the UK, appointed Nicole Junkermann to the Healthtech Advisory Board. For the vast majority of people living in the United Kingdom, the NHS is an institution which we cherish and adore. Many of us will protect the National Health Service with our lives because that’s what it has done for us in our darkest days.

    ..The two members which are of note relating to this story are Nicole Junkermann and Parker Moss, the latter happening to be the Chief Business Officer at OWKIN, which is one of the many companies in Junkermann’s vast portfolio. OWKIN is an AI startup that uses machine learning to augment medical and biology research. On its own, the company would probably be a perfect fit for the future of the NHS, but because of its connection to Nicole Junkermann and Israeli intelligence, OWKIN should be seen as too much of a risk to the data protection for NHS users.

    ...I believe that the future unsealing of previously hidden evidence will confirm that Jeffrey Epstein had been working for multiple intelligence agencies. But he is most likely to have been recruited by the Israeli state. Junkermann has managed to avoid her connections with Epstein being out in the open, until now. But she is skilled at controlling her public profile. Nicole Junkermann has become more powerful over the past eight years, and I have seen negative information relating to her previous scandals being removed from the search results. Go check yourself. Type in Nicole Junkermann on Google search and go through all the articles which appear. They are overwhelmingly positive, or simply relate to one of her businesses, and this is very different to what you would have found only a few years ago. When I first started investigating Nicole Junkermann, there were many negative articles which have all but vanished. I’m not even sure that this story will survive.
    So, I ask you all to share this and publish it on your blogs and websites, and to bring the name Nicole Junkermann into the public eye.
    Also, if I disappear anytime soon, remember. It was probably the Mossad.
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    Hi all,

    This will be the first point in (edit: two part) series of posts following below.

    First regarding Qanon, mods leaving and Kerry's statement or indications surrounding said events.

    So I guess this is the point where I chime in. Most (if not all) of what is stated here is a matter of perspective and personal beliefs and opinion. This post does not in it's whole necessarily represent how the team feels. Thankfully we have a great team here on Avalon that are all free thinkers and independent human beings.

    Now, I wish to first clarify something specifically to both Kerry and KiwiElf respectively and anybody else engaged in the topic. First off I can assume that the source Kerry is referring too is myself. I have known Kerry for about 10 years now and as some might be aware I was the webmaster for Project Camelot for about 6 years or so. We still maintain good relations as friends.

    I do however want to clarify what was stated and what is assumption in reference to mods leaving, Q "infiltration", etc.

    In my conversation with Kerry (albeit a few weeks after taking over the admin role on PA) we had a general catch-up conversation. In said conversation I informed her that I had taken over the admin role of the Avalon server and forum (on a tech level). Following that part of the conversation the question (which would be obvious if you were in Kerry's shoes) as to why I had taken over said duties and why me out of all people! Kerry is not the first one to be very surprised by this development. While talking about the circumstances of the admin take-over the Q schism was brought up. Ironically at the point of our conversation I had not been able to catch up nearly enough (I mean look at the crazy amount of posts on the topic) so I was unable to say for sure what happened in detail leading to mod and admin resignations. But quite frankly it did not take much reading to put certain things into a relative context, but I think it would be wrong and unwise to blame the Q contention as the sole reason for people moving on with their lives.

    There are clearly a multitude of layers in everyone's life that over time creates the outcome that is your perception of today. From one point of view it would be very easy to blame Qanon, alt-right or Trump himself for everything that went wrong (here and in general!), but the truth is that the easiest explanation is most certainly not the case in this or most complex situations.

    See, even though blame is irrelevant it does not mean we should not recognize the reality of what is going on around us. What it boils down to in any situation is people, beings, whatever you want to call it. People are responsible for their own actions. Not Q, not Trump, not ET's.

    This was very much the situation here as I was able to read it. People for better or for worse (depending on your point of view) took responsibility for their own actions and beliefs.

    It is not my place or anyone's to say if those actions were right or wrong as it is again a matter of a certain point of view.

    So no, Qanon and the followers, or whatever you want to call it was not directly responsible for the recent change in the forum staff. Could it have been a catalyst for some? Sure, but that catalyst could have been anything... So is this part of our past relevant today? In my opinion not really.


    Continued.
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    Further adding on to my first (above) post:

    Now what?

    What does matter however is how we act on past occurrences, what we learn and ultimately what we can gain even from those dark corners of our memory. Speaking for myself I can say that I look at this transition as a great opportunity for our community to grow and learn from each-others differences and keep building our watchtower so tall we will eventually stand both as the tallest and free, within our-self.

    Project Avalon needs to be a safe space for everyone, but through trials, well life... One usually pics up a thing or two if one allows him or herself to stand outside of the storms for a while as an observer. It is common for the human brain to see and recognize patterns, and if somethings happen often enough it does indeed become predictable. That predictability allows you to more easily navigate to the eye of the storm. So speaking for myself I can say that I have "seen this before", and I am not the only one. I also know how it feels to be engulfed in group thinking and mentality. It is like riding a wave, you are standing still yet allowing another force to drive you (more or less) in it's own direction. A wave or stream does not care if it sends you directly into the stomach of a great white wale, neither is the wave or stream responsible for you sticking with it.

    The world have never seemed more divided in my perspective, this is not a time to give away your own responsibilities and trust another force. I believe you need to become the force, awake the independent beautiful being inside of you towards something greater and don't limit yourself to any other beings will. Go out there, make a change. I don't have to agree. But for the love of everything we need to get off our collective asses, we are very late to the game!

    And that is exactly what almost any leader or group of leadership sees this great oasis as, a game for their own amusement and gain. Avalon also being part of said world is as vulnerable as anyone, but know that I greatly respect and admire our PA teams ability in weighing, disseminating and reflecting over any decision being made. I see utmost care and respect being shown in all situations that occur on the forum, even when that goes against ones personal beliefs.

    So a great big thank you to members, past and present PA team members, you have all gotten us this far.

    Now lets keep ensuring a safe judgement free space for those waking up anew, and for those who have been around and moved into different territory. I say, personally to certain unnamed people:
    I expected more...

    Do Qanon followers/subscribers want their own forum? I would be happy to set that up for free, that is if anyone feel their voice on the topic is not wanted or recognized on Avalon.

    I for one for one find the material interesting (but only that) and encourage any kind of discernment or point of view, but the attitude I recognize from some members up to this point is very disappointing. Degrading comments, veiled threats and other instigation should not stand, I will not stand for it personally, though neither do I have to act on such things alone.

    A very long winded response, yet I am sure there are still plenty of things that could be said.

    But do know I am only here because I care about you all. This is what I can do at the moment. What can you do?


    I will end this post with some final notes:


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    Hi Kerry hope all is well for you.

    I don't follow this thread much but it is important for a full mix of knowledge.

    Just read your reply to a fellow Avalonian 'KiwiElf', in it you used these name tags:
    wannabe's, or Qanon groupies, or Qanon fans.
    That in my mind is a poor show Kerry
    I don't like any name calling, it's the same if you play online games, people being called 'Noobs' distasteful stuff


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    Thanks Tommy, we can take Qanon or leave it without forcing opinions on others, one can contribute or not, pick it up or refrain from reading - same as all topics here - freedom is the key. We are fortunate to have those freedoms, and must maintain that freedom on this forum.

    I enjoy choosing my topics, and am often surprised by new ideas, spiritual advice, and wondrous stories/images, so well done Project Avalon, long may it last.
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    Quote Posted by Tommy (here)
    Project Avalon needs to be a safe space for everyone, but through trials, well life... One usually pics up a thing or two if one allows him or herself to stand outside of the storms for a while as an observer. It is common for the human brain to see and recognize patterns, and if somethings happen often enough it does indeed become predictable. That predictability allows you to more easily navigate to the eye of the storm. So speaking for myself I can say that I have "seen this before", and I am not the only one.
    I don't think many long-time members would disagree with you, Tommy. PA has had many 'storms'...mods have left en masse before (whether of their own choosing or not), the tone and tenor of the forum has changed many times before...well-informed members that have contributed so much to the enlightenment of many being ganged-up on and forced to leave because they couldn't keep up with the change-over from a hard-hitting, deep digging, research focus to a kinder and gentler focus, etc. And now Q researchers are the target. I get it. I've seen this many times before, as you and many others have seen it happen as well.

    Quote I also know how it feels to be engulfed in group thinking and mentality. It is like riding a wave, you are standing still yet allowing another force to drive you (more or less) in it's own direction. A wave or stream does not care if it sends you directly into the stomach of a great white wale, neither is the wave or stream responsible for you sticking with it.

    The world have never seemed more divided in my perspective, this is not a time to give away your own responsibilities and trust another force. I believe you need to become the force, awake the independent beautiful being inside of you towards something greater and don't limit yourself to any other beings will. Go out there, make a change. I don't have to agree. But for the love of everything we need to get off our collective asses, we are very late to the game!
    The above quote, to me, speaks of something different. The Q researchers do not need to become the force....we are the storm...we are making a change. And you're right, you don't have to agree.

    What you don't understand is that most of what is posted in the Q thread appears on the surface to be for public consumption. That is not exactly the information that is being shared here...it's only the part you choose to see.

    From the very beginning Q said to "learn our comms". That is the key. Without it, I can easily comprehend how it can be considered a larp, American politics, addiction, or all the other things it has been called.

    But people don't want to do the research, or go back to the beginning and learn. They want others to explain it to them. Sorry, it doesn't work that way.

    Q researchers keep together to share information with each other. They are not trying to convince anyone of anything other than we know there is more to this than can be seen on the surface. Notice that there is only one Q thread, but many anti-Q threads. Who, exactly, is trying to force their will, view, beliefs on others? imo, it is not the Q people.

    We don't need our own forum. Just one thread for research is all we ask. Is that really asking too much?

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    Quote Jayke has been temporarily suspended for 3 days, and KiwiElf for 3 weeks. The reasons given, which they will see when they next log in, are:
    Sorry, Jayke and KiwiElf. (post here)


    I'm aware of carefully choosing my words. Less is best. (That in itself is sad.) The reality is the line drawn can shift, any way, at any time, for any one, on any day, and on any thread.

    Stepping out (again)…
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    Quote Posted by RunningDeer (here)
    Quote Jayke has been temporarily suspended for 3 days, and KiwiElf for 3 weeks. The reasons given, which they will see when they next log in, are:
    Sorry, Jayke and KiwiElf. (post here)

    I'm aware of carefully choosing my words. Less is best. (That in itself is sad.) The reality is the line drawn can shift, any way, at any time, for any one, on any day, and on any thread.
    Stepping out (again)…
    No. Something like this is never okay. If someone reading here can't see this, there's nothing I can say. It crosses many yards (not inches) over any line. There are no arbitraries here.

    Quote Posted by KiwiElf (here)
    Be VERY careful, Aragorn.

    My finger is hovering over "submit post" of two questionable infographics - perhaps quite defamatory - which appeared on a Q Research Board recently, manufactured by TOT members under your supervision, targeting Bill & Project Avalon.

    Contrary to your deluded claims, we "Qultists" do our research.

    Would you like me to post them along with the link?

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    Maybe ask for the evidence,kiwielf claims to have,it may well have been a misguided way of trying to protect pa.
    Aragorn is on my very small ignore list for a reason.

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    Quote Posted by samildamach (here)
    Maybe ask for the evidence,kiwielf claims to have,it may well have been a misguided way of trying to protect pa.
    Aragorn is on my very small ignore list for a reason.
    Yes, you can 'ignore' anyone you like. You have that right, and that free choice.

    KiwiElf could also have ignored Aragorn. He knew he could, but he didn't choose to.


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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Quote Posted by RunningDeer (here)
    Quote Jayke has been temporarily suspended for 3 days, and KiwiElf for 3 weeks. The reasons given, which they will see when they next log in, are:
    Sorry, Jayke and KiwiElf. (post here)

    I'm aware of carefully choosing my words. Less is best. (That in itself is sad.) The reality is the line drawn can shift, any way, at any time, for any one, on any day, and on any thread.
    Stepping out (again)…
    No. Something like this is never okay. If someone reading here can't see this, there's nothing I can say. It crosses many yards (not inches) over any line. There are no arbitraries here.

    Quote Posted by KiwiElf (here)
    Be VERY careful, Aragorn.

    My finger is hovering over "submit post" of two questionable infographics - perhaps quite defamatory - which appeared on a Q Research Board recently, manufactured by TOT members under your supervision, targeting Bill & Project Avalon.

    Contrary to your deluded claims, we "Qultists" do our research.

    Would you like me to post them along with the link?
    Seeing all the tit for tat that has taken place since your decision to move the thread to members only I regret and apologize for saying you think too much. Broad shoulders deserve some credit! Anything that divisive should be contained away from potential new members. I mean what are they to think if they come in after hearing or reading about Project Avalon if they come in before joining only to see the kind of child rants going on? I'd turn and run so in that regard you didn't think too much. You made a smart call if anything maybe a bit later than it could have been done. Just took me longer to see it.
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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Quote Posted by RunningDeer (here)
    Quote Jayke has been temporarily suspended for 3 days, and KiwiElf for 3 weeks. The reasons given, which they will see when they next log in, are:
    Sorry, Jayke and KiwiElf. (post here)

    I'm aware of carefully choosing my words. Less is best. (That in itself is sad.) The reality is the line drawn can shift, any way, at any time, for any one, on any day, and on any thread.
    Stepping out (again)…
    No. Something like this is never okay. If someone reading here can't see this, there's nothing I can say. It crosses many yards (not inches) over any line. There are no arbitraries here.

    Quote Posted by KiwiElf (here)
    Be VERY careful, Aragorn.

    My finger is hovering over "submit post" of two questionable infographics - perhaps quite defamatory - which appeared on a Q Research Board recently, manufactured by TOT members under your supervision, targeting Bill & Project Avalon.

    Contrary to your deluded claims, we "Qultists" do our research.

    Would you like me to post them along with the link?
    This is a bit confusing to me. I remember people being permanently banned here at Avalon for things they wrote at TOT.

    Over the years, I've been invited to join TOT. But never did because of the bend to bash Avalon so much.
    It was unappealing to me.

    Recently, someone told me that my name came up over there?
    Why???

    If the graphic Kiwi is referring to is the one I suspect it is, it's quite negative about Bill Ryan.
    I didn't know where it originated. If it originated at TOT, that may well be something to be aware of.
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