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    Default Going to Mars, but no moon visits???

    The news coverage today was interesting. Russia and Europe are planning on going to Mars in 2 years and the US is planning the same. I find it odd that nobody is planning on going back to the moon. Does the dismissal of moon visits validate the fact that we were warned off the moon?


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    Default Re: Going to Mars, but no moon visits???

    Could be. Or that there's some other civilization on the far side of it, and with today's technology, there's no way to hide it if we do go there, since they'd certainly Livestream.

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    Default Re: Going to Mars, but no moon visits???

    Do people still believe that we haven't been to the Moon since the 70's? I truly hope that's not the case.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/life-s...-a8257441.html
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    Default Re: Going to Mars, but no moon visits???

    The USA is planning to 'officially' return to the moon, as trump gave nasa new marching orders (which still includes mars trips):


    "NEWS 06 MARCH 2018
    US scientists plot return to the Moon's surface
    Lunar researchers want to take advantage of Trump administration’s political interest.


    "When Apollo astronaut Eugene Cernan stepped off the Moon in December 1972, it marked the end of US researchers’ access to the lunar surface. Since then, no US mission has touched down there to collect scientific data.

    "That could soon change. In December, President Donald Trump ordered NASA to send astronauts back to the Moon. On 12 February, he proposed a 2019 budget that would allow the agency to begin planning a US$200-million lunar exploration programme. In the weeks since, NASA officials have started sketching out how that effort might unfold — from a series of small commercial landers, to larger NASA landers, to a multinational space station near the Moon that could serve as a base for robots and astronauts travelling to the lunar surface."

    https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-018-02697-5

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    Default Re: Going to Mars, but no moon visits???

    I posted this earlier on some related threads and there has been a lot about
    discloser by Dark Journalist , Tom De Longe and others. When I saw Trumps
    comments in California about going to Mars soon it was interesting when
    connecting dots to other things going on......
    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Re: Dark Journalist: CIA UFO information from the JFK doc releases 7 Nov 2017
    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...=1#post1214619


    Dr.Corsi in his comments on the 'Q' threads has suggested
    several times that Trump may be the UFO/ET disclosure president
    when the topic cropped up. Then Trump floated the idea in a
    recent speech to the armed forces in California when semi joking
    a space force may be created. It reminded me of his political
    mentor Reagans comments in the UN.

    Its hard to tell with Trump when he is in jokey mood whether
    he is just mooting an idea or is he getting at the Secret space
    programme ? probably the former though Dr.Corsi says Trumps
    says a lot when he seems not to be.


    Trump floats idea for a military "space force"

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lrJhatw3K4
    Published on 14 Mar 2018Speaking to troops in San Diego on Tuesday,
    President Trump called outer space "a war-fighting domain," and floated
    the idea of adding a "space force" to the U.S. military. Watch his remarks.

    =========================================
    Trump floats idea of an outer space army



    Published on 15 Mar 2018
    President Donald Trump is entertaining the idea that the next
    war zone could be in. While addressing troops at a Marine
    Corps air station in California, he called for new security efforts
    in outer space. RT America’s Trinity Chavez reports.

    ====================================================
    ====================================================

    I just finished Alex speaking to Zach and they talk about it as well....



    ZACH: SETH RICH, TRUMP, MARINES, INTEL INSIDER!
    - ALEX JONES INFOWARS


    Published on 16 Mar 2018

    Also discuss's Trumps Space comments aprox 22 mins in...Trappist 1 system..



    http://www.spitzer.caltech.edu/image...atistics-Table
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    Default Re: Going to Mars, but no moon visits???

    I do find it odd when discussing manned space travel beyond the moon that the moon isn't significantly included in the discussion. The moon seems perfectly positioned as a way station.

    Envisioning the Moon as a Launch Pad to Explore the Outer Solar System

    http://news.columbia.edu/content/env...r-solar-system




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    Default Re: Going to Mars, but no moon visits???

    Quote Does the dismissal of moon visits validate the fact that we were warned off the moon?
    It could be per the info of Wm Tompkins and others , I think the reports of ET's
    watching from the crater is possible and there could still be ET bases up there. But
    if we are to believe the Secret space programme is true and we have a fleet up
    there already I would of thought we would have a presence on the Moon , Mars and
    elsewhere already.


    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...-Whistleblower

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    Also if the mining, cities and other activities claimed by John Lear and others
    are true, it maybe there is no need to go back to the moon until there existence is
    officially disclosed...


    Moon Secrets Revealed - John Lear & Richard Hoagland
    1/26/2015

    Lear returned for a discussion about photographic evidence for cities and mining
    operations on the moon. He said that mining operations for such substances as
    helium-3 have been going on for years, and that anti-gravity ships, secretly
    launched from Antarctica, arrive at the moon in only one hour's time.


    Lear also argued that the moon was towed into its current orbit by a huge
    electromagnetic vehicle, and that vehicle can be seen in a photo taken of the moon
    crater Tsiolkovsky. He also believes that the moon contains a breathable
    atmosphere, as evidenced by photos showing smoke or vapor coming from the
    surface. Joining the conversation during the third hour, Richard C. Hoagland
    concurred with Lear that there are artificial structures on the moon, yet he
    suggested they may be ancient rather than new.


    http://www.ufodisclosuregroup.com/uf...chard-hoagland

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    Of course all the above is what we speculate in the alt community and is difficult
    to prove other than by 'whistle blowers' , experiencers and researchers. If we
    stay with the mainstream non of what I just posted is true, and is why many seek
    out forums like Avalon .............
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    Default Re: Going to Mars, but no moon visits???

    Geologically and atmospherically, Mars is a much more diverse landscape to explore and colonize compared to what we’ve been told about the moon.

    So I guess I would ask a similar question- why would we put the moon before mars?

    Yes, the moon does make sense as far as a waystation or location to build larger craft without having to worry about how to get them outside of the earth’s atmosphere.

    However, why would we have to get a colony and mining operation up on the moon (which would take 50 years?), BEFORE sending humans to mars? There’s a major difference between a colony mission and an exploration mission.

    We’ve been to the moon, we haven’t been to mars.

    All of this of course assumes the mainstream narrative, and neglects the covert space programs.
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    Default Re: Going to Mars, but no moon visits???

    Following the msm narrative, if we look at the moon as a potential source for minerals and for low gravity manufacturing (these facilities could be buried to avoid solar radiation), and nasa research has demonstrated water exits there in some quantity, then it makes a great deal of sense to go back to the moon. In addition, the proximity of the moon to Earth makes it a much more logical destination than mars. Several activities on the moon make perfect sense. On the commercial side, solar energy potential is there galour, the number of solar panels that could be built would likely generate enough energy for all of Earth and moon enterprises combined (this energy could be beamed to earth i believe even with current technology). Another major activity perfect for the moon is astronomy research as well as physics and chemistry experimentation.

    That being said, the allure of mars is the more 'Earth-like' environment, with an atmosphere that invites some terraforming. Mars is the only such satellite of the solar system that can claim this. So, it also makes a great deal of sense to explore Mars, too.

    However, the question is what to do first? I would say go ahead and explore Mars, but also start gearing up to colonize the moon because of its huge potential. So, there is a very good question as to why not 'back to the moon' more publicly? Maybe its only now that its become commercially viable, and also the USA has enacted laws that make space business potentially highly lucrative. So my guess is that the controllers want the moon for themselves to be exploited by corporate fascists while the rest of us are distracted by the mirage of colonizing Mars.

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    Default Re: Going to Mars, but no moon visits???

    Quote Posted by JoefromtheCarolinas (here)
    However, why would we have to get a colony and mining operation up on the moon (which would take 50 years?), BEFORE sending humans to mars? There’s a major difference between a colony mission and an exploration mission.
    And yet its been almost 50 years since the first moon landing. There was much that could have been ferried to the moon in anticipation of future technology that would certainly emerge for manned space exploration beyond it.

    In my eye, there is a reason behind that gap that is not in any official narrative available to the general public.

    The unofficial narrative has plausible pieces of the puzzle on what has been going on in the interim.

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    Default Re: Going to Mars, but no moon visits???

    dragged behind a rouge comet twice the size of earth , until caught by earths gravity , the moon is said to be from a different universe , a fragment of a planet
    billions of years older than earth ... the technology that must be there , 4.5 billion years roaming though two universes , exploring the back side should come first, i mean , we know everything about mars , our closest cosmic neighbor we know zero about the dark side , something causes that body not to rotate ... hmmm
    Raiding the Matrix One Mind at a Time ...

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    Default Re: Going to Mars, but no moon visits???

    what if mars is a misdirection , allowing lots of radio silence , while an effort to expand a massive building project on the moon ... it would make a good staging area/base for deeper destinations ...
    Raiding the Matrix One Mind at a Time ...

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    Default Re: Going to Mars, but no moon visits???

    This is interesting timing.....

    The Telegraph....

    Vladimir Putin promises to launch Mars mission and hunt for water on the moon

    By Alec Luhn, Moscow
    15 March 2018 • 4:01pm


    Vladimir Putin has said that Russia will launch a mission to Mars in 2019, adding echoes of
    a space race to the Cold War-style nuclear arms development he announced earlier this month.
    The statement comes ahead of Sunday's presidential election, in which he will almost certainly
    win a fourth term.

    “We will now carry out unmanned and then manned launches to explore deep space, and a lunar
    programme, and then the exploration of Mars,” Mr Putin said in a state television film highlighting
    his accomplishments during 18 years in power. “The first will be very soon. In 2019 we are planning
    to launch a mission toward Mars.”

    He also said Russia would try to land on the poles of the moon “because there's reason to believe
    that water could be there”.

    “The exploration of other planets and deep space could start from there,” he said.

    Roscosmos said last year it will start a programme in 2019 to establish bases on the moon, where
    it will develop techniques for manned Mars missions.

    read more...
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...nt-water-moon/

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    Vladimir Putin vs Elon Musk: Russia and SpaceX both pledge Mars by 2019


    Published on 15 Mar 2018
    VLADIMIR Putin is squaring up to Elon Musk as both Russia and privateer pioneers
    SpaceX pledged to launch a mission to Mars in 2019.
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    Default Re: Going to Mars, but no moon visits???

    China is going to the moon to mine Helium-3 about a trillion $$ worth.. Helium 3 is a most amazing fuel in high abundance on the moon, and no doubt there are many other space programs designed to go mining for this stuff - energy domination is what Helium 3 can offer.

    http://www.spacesafetymagazine.com/s...ium-3-program/

    Quote China is now leading the world into an industrial and scientific revolution, the sheer scale of which will of necessity soon require an entirely new form of energy, never before mastered on Earth: controlled thermonuclear fusion power, using helium-3 (He-3) as its fuel. The He-3 isotope is extremely rare on Earth, but exists in abundance on the Moon, and the Chinese leadership has already begun an ambitious program to acquire it.

    About three-fourths of China’s energy is now produced by coal-fired power plants, but a typical coal train of more than a kilometre long, carrying 5,000 tonnes of coal, would be replaced by just 40 grams of He-3, dramatically reducing transportation costs. Just eight tonnes of He-3 in fusion reactors would provide the equivalent energy of one billion tonnes of coal, burned in power stations.

    China’s plan to bring back He-3 from the Moon will benefit not only the Chinese, but all mankind, just as any scientific breakthrough anywhere in the world has always done. Moreover, China is not alone in needing huge new supplies of energy.

    Human civilisation now and in the foreseeable future already requires orders of magnitude more energy, while per capita energy consumption must also rise dramatically, if we are to eliminate poverty and transform industry, agriculture, transport and water management everywhere.
    These dots are easy to see IMHO.
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