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    Quote Posted by Star Tsar (here)
    I think the point most have missed is that he could have destroyed the case, hours of police & legal professionals work, the anonymity of defendants & jurors @ A cost of millions to the taxpayer. That is exactly why he got left off the first time, arrested AGAIN & subsequently jailed if that is indeed the case!
    It’s not a missed point at all. We accept and don’t condone those actions, which was irresponsible of Robinson in hindsight. What you seem to be missing is that we’ve moved on from that point and are trying to look at the bigger picture of causes and affects that are resulting from the fallout of the events of that day. Maybe the thread title could be changed to “Tommy Robinson arrest exposes government corruption and fuels worldwide populism”.

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    "Tommy Robinson Moved to Maximum Security Prison With 71% Muslim Population by Home Office !"

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/201...im-population/


    Are they trying to get the guy killed ?

    There going to start a civil war if that happens and they know it - but they are still pushing ahead - so what is their ulterior motive ?


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    The guy is a change agent all day long get over it. If one actually listen to his words it's quite easy to tell because he is calling for internment camps & martial law as per below

    https://www.facebook.com/UKOpenpolit...ns&pnref=story
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    Quote Posted by Star Tsar (here)
    The guy is a change agent all day long get over it. If one actually listen to his words it's quite easy to tell because he is calling for internment camps & martial law as per below

    https://www.facebook.com/UKOpenpolit...ns&pnref=story
    I do find it awfully ironic that your main point is that Tommy could prejudice a jury against the accused, who are presumed innocent until found guilty. Yet in the case of Robinson, you're happy to condemn him as a guilty government shill before he's had any chance to defend his innocence. Your projection of guilt violates your own moral reasons for arguing your point. I think you've been eating at the same pretzel stand of logic as kemo
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    I for one will join in with anyone, I don't care what color you are as long as you want to change this miserable condition that exists on this Earth - Malcolm X / Tsar Of The Star

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    Ok, since Star Bizarre obviously has no legitimate points to make...back to the topic.

    Initial reports on social media, which suggested Robinson was moved to a predominantly Muslim prison, with up to 71% Muslim population, are now said to be over-exaggerated. Muslim population of the new prison was later said to be 1 in 5, which is still a danger to Robinson’s wellbeing (since imams have been putting fatwas and contracts on his head).

    His spokesman, Caolan Robertson, says on twitter they're waiting for his legal team to give the go ahead before they can release any more specific information later today.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/CaolanRob...30765296439298

    I’ll admit, the handling of these latest developments have been a bit of a dog and pony show by the alternative media, but hopefully people will be able to get some detailed, factual and up-to-date information soon enough.

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    Thanks for your points, Voice! This immigrants "thing" seems to be the way they are taking over now. I feel bad for Sweden if things are really as bad as we seem to be hearing. Maybe other countries will take notice.

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    Quote Posted by Jayke (here)
    House of Lord staffer working for Lord Pearson gives a much more nuanced understanding of why this case has touched a raw nerve amongst the public—on a global level—and I agree, the thread should be changed to “Tommy Robinson may be murdered in prison due to prejudicial contempt”
    If you feel strongly enough about changing the title of the thread to “Tommy Robinson may be murdered in prison due to prejudicial contempt” or something similar and acceptable to the moderators I have no issue with that, and suggest you petition the moderators.

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    The murdered in prison title might be a bit strong. I think Dr Steve Turley nailed it in his video title on post 81, "The arrest of Tommy Robinson fuels worldwide populism". But I'm fine with the title as it is. If the mods can think of a more appropriate title then feel free to update.

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    Quote Posted by Jayke (here)
    Ok, since Star Bizarre obviously has no legitimate points to make...back to the topic.

    Initial reports on social media, which suggested Robinson was moved to a predominantly Muslim prison, with up to 71% Muslim population, are now said to be over-exaggerated. Muslim population of the new prison was later said to be 1 in 5, which is still a danger to Robinson’s wellbeing (since imams have been putting fatwas and contracts on his head).

    His spokesman, Caolan Robertson, says on twitter they're waiting for his legal team to give the go ahead before they can release any more specific information later today.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/CaolanRob...30765296439298

    I’ll admit, the handling of these latest developments have been a bit of a dog and pony show by the alternative media, but hopefully people will be able to get some detailed, factual and up-to-date information soon enough.
    Nail, hit, head, my friend, it's been my view that certain 'gurus' of the alt media have through their sensationalist reportage been relaying a narrative somewhat removed from the actual facts which unfortunately have been taken as gospel by their blind faith followers.

    There's another facet to your post whereby perhaps not all Muslims will follow the fatwas etc, there are many lapsed and moderate types in these jails.

    It's curious that this forum which prides itself on independent research and verification of facts seems to be missing the mark spectacularly on this thread

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    Feel free to define and specify what the mark is my friend. We're all shooting in the dark here till further facts develop and emerge. But please, if you're going to call someone a government shill or patsy or whatever, please do specify with facts. That's how debates are settled in the end.

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    Having a buddy who is ANTIFA oriented has crystallized this for me.

    This guy would agree with the idea that it is important to get out on the streets and challenge the pro Tommy demonstrators, as we need to show that we hate racism and islamophobia, and will not let those oiks have the run of things!

    He is not receiving anything from his own anti-fascist network regarding the creeping fascism that we see being stealthily introduced by the moderate right & left in all developed societies right now.

    He will not go onto the streets to demonstrate regarding Julian Assange, lost paedophile evidence, illegal warmongering, pharma tyranny, banking tyranny etc.

    So Tommy is doing a great job of distracting Antifa guy from the real issues. Well done Tommy, well done Antifa guy. If I was a conspiracy theorist I would think it was being done deliberately!
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    Quote Posted by Star Tsar (here)
    [I]The guy is a change agent all day long get over it. If one actually listen to his words it's quite easy to tell because he is calling for internment camps & martial law as per below
    Whether he is consciously involved with anything or not, what's happening to Tommy Robinson can easily be used to topple the UK government on some level or another, whether that's causing Theresa May to be replaced or whether it's something more substantial than that.

    Trump Jr. tweeted about Tommy Robinson during the UK court-ordered blackout, and that was also a pretty high-level shot across the bow of the British establishment, that the Trump circle knew it had a foothold onto some nice political leverage. And really it's about American populists allying up with British populists and populists from other parts of Europe, and the British establishment genuinely has reason to be terrified of that.

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    The Globalist Elites have been in control for long enough; it is encouraging to see various countries "waking up" with The People being concerned about what has been going on & wanting to rectify the situation!

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    If you feel strongly enough about changing the title of the thread...
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    Thread title changed to: Tommy Robinson arrested for all sorts of reasons
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    Thankyou Herve, good choice.

    One of the many reasons for Tommy’s arrest is the Zionist funded encroachment of Islamo-communism on Western society. Michael Tsarion has done several interesting podcasts on this topic.

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    • YouTube description
    Michael and David welcome author and podcaster Chuck Morse to speak about his original and provocative research revealing the shadowy but very real connections between Communism and Islam. Other topics include the false premise that Nazism is “Right Wing,” that Communism and Nazism became relics of the past after WW II and the fall of the Berlin Wall. Chuck offers key insights to the long-standing conspiracy between radical Islam and Left-Wing ideology, and makes clear the agenda of Wahabism, Muslim Brotherhood, Al Qaeda, Taliban, Hezbollah, PLO, and other extremist sects backed by wealthy western socialists. What is the role of Zionism, Judaism and Christianity? How important is Saudi oil in the present geopolitical game? Are the Saudis likely to conspire with enemies of the West despite overtures and handsome arms and high-tech deals? Why were moderate Moslem leaders assassinated or ousted? Are we to trust apparently Right-Wing leaders in European countries? What is Donald Trump’s role in combating the threat of radical Islam and Leftist thugocracy? What are we to make of Vladimir Putin's role in world affairs?

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    Another Michael Tsarion interview on Islamo-communism, this time with researcher and author, Trevor Loudan.

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    Michael and David welcome Trevor Loudon to Unslaved, the renowned researcher and filmmaker. Subjects discussed include the Trump presidency, and the future of America and Europe. Trevor confirms that radical Islam is indeed backed by underground Communist groups and that the threat of Islamic terrorism is real and pressing. Trevor names the names, and offers positive practical solutions to the present political fallout.

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    David Livingstone is another in-depth researcher who indentifies the wahhabi house of saud as Zionist agents, hence why wahhabi Islam is the preferred weapon of choice in the Illuminati’s political game to enslave humanity into psychological submission. Below is an interview he does with Henry Makow.


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    3 weeks before Tommy’s arrest, the EU commissioners met to discuss how they could flood millions more migrants into Europe’s borders.

    https://ec.europa.eu/home-affairs/ne...declaration_en
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    Commissioner for Migration, Home Affairs and Citizenship Dimitris Avramopoulos participated in the Fifth Euro-African Ministerial Conference on Migration and Development in Marrakesh, Morocco. Government representatives of 58 European and African countries attended the Conference.

    Discussions focussed on strengthening cooperation in the fields of migration and development, including the prevention of irregular migration and strengthening of legal pathways. The Conference forms part of the Rabat Process, a platform aimed at facilitating exchange and cooperation between partner countries on the migration route in North, West and Central Africa and Europe.

    https://ec.europa.eu/home-affairs/si...rrakesh_en.pdf
    The culmination of those meetings was the Marrakesh declaration. Similar to the Barcelona declaration that flooded the EU with Islamic migrants from the Middle East. This latest EU declaration is hell-bent on flooding Europe with millions from the African continent. The EU beurocracts have no concern for the wellbeing of the populations they supposedly ‘govern’, they’re ideologically driven to create a Euro-Africa superstate that would enable them to pillage and plunder Africa’s huge and untapped resources.

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    The French president claimed that due to immense population growth in Africa, Europe needs to prepare for an “unprecedented” wave of mass migration, “that is there and will last”, implying that the destiny of the two continents is intertwined.

    “We have a migratory phenomenon that is there and will last, because there are geopolitical conflicts, climatic change and African demography that is there and that is a real bomb.” Proclaimed the French president during an interview on Sunday. Somehow, because all these things are occurring in Africa, it is up to Europeans to welcome these people and fix their situation, never mind the fact that the USA, China, India, Europe and Japan could combined, fit into Africa and that that continent is brimming with resources.

    Macron referenced the work of French-American journalist and professor Stephen Smith in a recent book.

    “[Africans] are mostly turning to Europe because the continent [of Europe] is not an island, because of our location, and because Europe has its destiny bound with Africa,” said the staunchly pro-EU French figure during a two-hour long interview.

    Smith estimates that the number of Africans living in Europe will grow from nine million to between 150 million and 200 million within the next 30 years.

    The Rush to Europe describes a massive, unprecedented population transfer still in its infancy, which Smith explains will — “paradoxically” — be triggered mostly as a result of Western foreign aid money financing wannabe migrants’ journeys from Africa.

    Smith in his book outlined a number of different scenarios he believes could emerge from the situation.

    “The most optimistic” of these — according to Le Figaro — is “Eurafrica”, which would see mass migration create a ‘welcoming’, multicultural Europe, which “would fully embrace being a ‘mixed-race land of immigration and interbreeding’”. – Sweden is the prime example of this, a large welfare state combined with open borders. The country is committing demographic suicide, and that is exactly what Smith wants for the whole Continent. This scenario would see the end of welfare states in Europe however, Smith said, pointing to the incompatibility of large-scale immigration and generous social programmes. – Even the ‘humanitarian superpower’, Sweden has had to cut down on the number of immigrants coming in and raping the countries resources as well as its women.

    Another possible scenario, ‘Fortress Europe’, is one which involves “a battle generally considered unwinnable, or even shameful” but which Smith points to as the case which strongly “has its reasons and its chances to succeed”, noting the effectiveness of EU deals with Libya and Turkey in stopping the influx. – Typical postmodernist propaganda ‘fighting to keep your way of life is ‘shameful”

    Africans have the second largest continent on the planet, full of resources, all to themselves, we only have one home, Europe. What needs to happen is clear. Our borders must be enforced, and the Africans need to build up their countries and prosper in their territory, Europeans can and have been helping with that. But what we cannot have, is that continent’s people flooding into our territories, because if they do, we will disappear. Demography is destiny.
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    Guess this all explains how a woman in Russia knew that a black man was being groomed for the U.S. Presidency while he was going to college in the U.S.!

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