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    Default Re: Thinking the Unthinkable: a WHAT IF scenario, should there be major sea level changes coming soon

    Yeah, the Metro area was my best guess for the disparity in numbers. Its an important distinction for me though as there is some conversation going on assuming the population is an indicator for geographic area that could be misleading when trying to understand what happened. The Boston area is a bad example because the population is so dense that no matter the disaster a large portion of the population is going to be affected but in larger cities the difference in population affected verse geography could be a big indicator of the type of event. Like a missile will affect a smaller area than a tsunami or widespread tornadoes so we may need to understand both population and geography.

    I know this is speculation but it could help people with planning. If I know a tsunami is coming I might have time to bug out. If a nuclear event happens then I may want to stay put.

    Also, I think it could help in deciding what questions to ask in future dowsing sessions.

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    Default Re: Thinking the Unthinkable: a WHAT IF scenario, should there be major sea level changes coming soon

    Good ol' Canadian shield! Not much change in this area makes the predictions even more scary.

    edit to add: Maybe some don't know what that is...
    The Canadian shield is a granite core of an old mountain range from hundreds of millions of years ago. All that is left of the mountains is their compressed cores. Hard as diamond, almost. The range extends from Hudson's Bay to the great lakes, including much of Ontario, Quebec and Manitoba (Canadian Provinces).
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    Default Re: Thinking the Unthinkable: a WHAT IF scenario, should there be major sea level changes coming soon

    Quote Posted by shaberon (here)
    [...]
    As much as we've become accustomed to "Tectonic Plate Drift" theory, there is no evidence for it (circumstantial only). The crustal plates might slip a few meters...but travel thousands of miles sideways??
    [...]
    Beside skepticism, one also needs to be open minded enough to let empirical data creep in... the "sideways" slip of continental crust over 1000s of miles is demonstrated by evidence of the continuity of paleo subduction/obduction/collision zones such as the one that affected Southern Brittany and Newfoundland with the occurrence of a "Blue Schists" belt matching perfectly once the basaltic seafloor at the bottom of the Atlantic ocean is removed.

    It is with the existence of such curvilinear features -AKA "Belts" - that the existence of supercontinents such as "Gondwana" or "Pangaea" are demonstrated/reconstructed.

    It is that same "drift" which causes the "Magnetic strips" paralleling the MORs with the oldest lava rocks being the farthest from the Ridge and dated at 180 million years for the Atlantic.

    I would advise to refrain from using a "Flatearther" type of sarcasm when ignorance of a subject is being displayed...
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    Herve. If we are going there then maybe we should consider how a hot sphere of molten rock cools. If that dynamic is considered there is sufficient ignorance to include just about any outlandish theory.

    As can be imagined, and I do not claim to be an expert, a sphere cools from the outside in. As the temperature gradient increases, convection currents carry cooler regions towards the outer layers and hotter regions sink deeper toward the center. This causes mixing of the molten rock, sometimes re-melting solidified rock. As convection reaches its height, the sphere physically expands in size.The temperature of the sphere gradually cools until the rock solidifies and convection can no longer mix temperature gradients. Then radiant cooling takes over.

    As the radiated heat escapes the rocks begin to compress and the sphere shrinks. The shrinking of the sphere causes more heat to escape and some convection returns because some of the rocks again melt, now usually at surface or sub-surface levels. The solid core can now "slip" as the melting crust acts like a lubricant between layers.

    Eventually what is left is a cold ball of loosely clumped crags of rock at the surface layers and a solid core of compressed rock beneath.

    This actually has not been observed on any planet. Instead, it seems that there is another mechanism at work that continues to heat the inner core and keeps the sphere alive with new sources of heat.

    It is known today that all the planets should have long ago become solid cold balls of rock, if only convection and radiation were occurring. Currently it is theorized that "uranic" elements continue to heat the core. As the half life of some of these radio-active elements is in the hundreds of millions of years, the heating continues. It is further speculated that once the trans-uranic elements decay heating will stop.
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    Default Re: Thinking the Unthinkable: a WHAT IF scenario, should there be major sea level changes coming soon

    Quote Posted by Ernie Nemeth (here)
    Herve. If we are going there then maybe we should consider how a hot sphere of molten rock cools. If that dynamic is considered there is sufficient ignorance to include just about any outlandish theory.
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    Ernie, I am not going there... what I am providing are the empirical evidences for the drifting apart of continental crusts.
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    Default Re: Thinking the Unthinkable: a WHAT IF scenario, should there be major sea level changes coming soon

    I found this presentation impressive and credible though his dates are a bit off.

    Around min 58, the presenter describes the source of worldwide devastation as “the 10th planet – coming up from the South Pole…” My first thought, “maybe this is becoming visible from Earth now. If so, could that be big attraction that has taken a strange mix of world leaders to Antarctica in the last year or so?

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    Quote Ernie, I am not going there... what I am providing are the empirical evidences for the drifting apart of continental crusts.
    There is indeed very good empirical evidence.
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    Is the green part in your picture what used to be called Doggerland, Star Mariner?
    Yes, a part of it. Doggerland extended quite far north originally. That land has not been above water for some 8,000 years. If it ever does come up, I wonder what artefacts we'd discover? It was inhabited, and even mammoths roamed there.

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    @DNA,
    I think that we will find much more of Casey's reading to be true or become true in the future, but he has been wrong in his timing. Are Casey's timing errors inaccurate due to the difficulties in seeing the future? Or is it because hopes and prayers of humans living on the Earth can change the future? Or is it because of their decisions and actions taken in living here?
    I hope these things are not written in stone, but I'm of the opinion that folks should focus on the specific circumstances Cayce speaks of rather than a specific year.

    Cayce always stated that these earth changes and catastrophic earthquakes would start after WWIII.

    I think this is important to note.

    I'm of the opinion that the Governments of the world have earthquake weapons, and that these will be unleashed to a level these Governments may not realize the full effects of.

    It has to be said that Trump seems to be trying to avoid a scheduled WWIII, and by his gaining office it is possible we are all experiencing a reprieve of sorts.

    I would like to see what Trump is doing extended into something that lasts.

    Had Hillary gotten in office I'm quite convinced we would be on the threshold or already in WWIII.
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    Default Re: Thinking the Unthinkable: a WHAT IF scenario, should there be major sea level changes coming soon

    Quote Posted by Justplain (here)
    I have had urges to learn basic survival skills, such as what local vegetation can be consumed in case of the systematic breakdown of the human infrastructure that delivers food to our tables. However, another part of my intuitive self tells me to relax, that those ideas are the 'just in case' variety. This intuition tells me that nothing really bad is going to happen. The really bad story is really a different timeline, and i will tell you why.

    In 'autobiography of a yogi', Yogananda is told by his teacher that there is a reason why the civilization in India still survives, because there are still good people living there. The biblical story of Sodom and Gomorrah is cited, in that when a society becomes too unethical, it is destroyed. Atlantis, by some accounts, had fallen to unethical depths of human sacrifice when it was sunk.

    I would posit that our civilization has not slipped to those depths, yet, and therefore a purge is not necessary. Of course, we must prevent future events that could sink us further, but as of now we are in safe territory, imho.

    As a result, i think that Warren's dowsing is picking up on an alternate timeline that is not this one.

    If what we are speculating about happens I personally think we have to think beyond basic survival skills.

    We have to think about location and that location's ability to continue to produce food without logistical or technological assistance on a massive scale.

    Surviving on wild life is no sure thing, even pioneers who depended on such when wildlife was amazingly plentiful back in the 1800's would perish from starvation. We need to think about possible communities that are growing food now that could continue to do so after such an event.

    As far as the USA is concerned, my bet is on Nebraska. The entire state is fertile, fairly unpopulated and most of the devastation prognosticated does not really affect the state.

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    Default Re: Thinking the Unthinkable: a WHAT IF scenario, should there be major sea level changes coming soon

    So the richest family on earth is building a floating city, lots of dots being connected on this thread isn't there! Times are changing aren't they, we now have a timetable to work with , is it a time for panic, absolutely not, But I would say its a time to start thinking about your own plans for the future ! And if nothing happens great, but I's say were seeing some precursors of the future now with mother earth doing a pre-dance. Enjoy everyday


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    According to available information, the amount of this contract exceeds $ 600 million. The number and size of the requested Waya modules are not known. Where this Wayaland will be built and floated is also kept secret. But already now it is called the future floating town of the Rothschilds.

    And most importantly, everything will be built in emergency mode.“

    And now we have a question … Why did such a famous clan decide to build a city for themselves on the water? Why such an urgent rush? What do they know that we do not?

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    Default Re: Thinking the Unthinkable: a WHAT IF scenario, should there be major sea level changes coming soon

    Interesting. It'd be good to have this confirmed. Here's the report:

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    The Rothschilds are building a floating city in emergency mode. What do they know that we do not?

    Everyone is always interested in what concerns the world elite. From their actions and behavior can be understood what to expect mankind in the near future. Exchanges and financial institutions react to each of their actions. One of the representatives of the world elite is the Rothschild clan.

    So the other day the Rothschilds made an action that makes you wonder… what could IT be?

    According to our correspondent from Italy, on Wednesday, financial services company Rothschild & Co (financial holding company which is controlled by the French and English branches of the Rothschild family) has signed a very strange contract with the Italian designer Pierpaolo Lazzarini.

    Why strange?

    The thing is that Pierpaolo Lazzarini developed the project Wayaland. This floating home in the form of a pyramid, deriving energy from solar panels.



    Here are the details reported by our correspondent:
    “Lazzarini has been trying all the time to raise funds for the implementation of his project. And now Rothschild & Co gave him such an opportunity, having ordered for himself the construction of a whole floating city.

    Wayaland would consist of a group of pyramid-shaped floating buildings called Waya that are inspired by Mayan and Japanese architecture. They would come in different sizes and serve different purposes, so some may function as homes, while others could be used as greenhouses, hotels, and cinemas, for example. The largest would rise to a maximum 30 m (98 ft) tall, above the water line.

    The Waya modules would be constructed from fiberglass, carbon fiber, and steel, and set atop large floating platforms with basements suitable for use as optional underwater bedrooms. The structures would be moved with motors and include a small marina for boats and other water craft to moor. Each would receive electricity from rooftop solar panel arrays and water turbines.

    Smallest Waya module he will need €350,000 (about US$422,600).

    According to available information, the amount of this contract exceeds $ 600 million. The number and size of the requested Waya modules are not known. Where this Wayaland will be built and floated is also kept secret. But already now it is called the future floating town of the Rothschilds.

    And most importantly, everything will be built in emergency mode.“

    And now we have a question … Why did such a famous clan decide to build a city for themselves on the water? Why such an urgent rush? What do they know that we do not?
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    Default Re: Thinking the Unthinkable: a WHAT IF scenario, should there be major sea level changes coming soon

    That's very interesting!
    I was on retreat once at Dauphin Island on the Gulf Coast. (There are many vacation homes there on stilts because often during hurricanes the tides come in so far that the homes would be flooded otherwise. )
    I had the clearest vision one day of a time in the future when homes would be able to be on land, on the water or in the air, and able to float to another location in case of hazardous weather conditions.
    Those pyramid houses might eventually be fitted with anti-gravity devices that would allow them to float in the air as well as the water, and settle on land as well.
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    Default Re: Thinking the Unthinkable: a WHAT IF scenario, should there be major sea level changes coming soon

    Would be interesting to know how long it would take to build a city like this and how fast the building would be in emergency mode.

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    Default Re: Thinking the Unthinkable: a WHAT IF scenario, should there be major sea level changes coming soon

    ...

    ... and I imagine the number and varieties of spare parts that would be needed to keep such a city in good shape for over 1/2 a century... solar panels replacement... plumbing systems... sanitation... etc....
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    Well, if anyone can afford it, the Rothchilds can....They will no doubt have their own factories for making spare parts before long too, if they don't already have them in their DUMBS.
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    Here's another article close to but with more verbiage, It's not so much that being on water is the only resort, but I would say it would be one of the safest, I do find the pyramid design interesting. I also remember a time traveler saying that by 2050 there would be floating cities based on magnetism or 2150. In any case, take what wnlight says, casey, the ring of fire activity, Yellowstone's steam boat geyser, water receding around the world, the volcanoes, all the boom and trumpeting noises around the world, the permafrost in Russia melting from below the surface and on and on. I think if we continue to see things ramping up into next year, then we all make conscious decisions. One thing for sure, the rothchilds are not building this because they like seafood!

    http://halturnerradioshow.com/index....-that-we-don-t

    The Rothschild Family is, far and away, the wealthiest family on planet earth, with estimated wealth of twenty-seven-TRILLION dollars.

    So when they do something unusual, such as announce they are shifting a significant percentage of their wealth into Gold Bullion (as they did last year), or when they divest themselves of most American Corporation stocks (like they did last year), it catches the attention of many.

    From the actions and behavior of people like the Rothschilds, we can get a glimpse into what to expect for mankind in the near future. Exchanges and financial institutions react to each of their actions; "Smart money" does too.

    As such, what can be reasonably inferred from the fact that the other day, Rothschild & Co Commissioned the Emergency Construction of a "floating city" for themselves? Why would they want their own city, floating far out in the ocean, far away from all the masses of humanity?

    Perhaps, because destruction comes. Destruction on a scale so enormous, so horrible, so unimaginable, the only place they can even HOPE to be safe, is in their own city, far out to sea.

    According to a source in Italy, on Wednesday, financial services company Rothschild & Co (financial holding company which is controlled by the French and English branches of the Rothschild family) signed a very strange contract with the Italian designer Pierpaolo Lazzarini.

    Pierpaolo Lazzarini developed a project called "Waya"; floating homes in the shape of a pyramid, deriving energy from solar panels and food for occupants from the sea itself.

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    Aboriginal Elders warn the 'End of Days' is near

    https://nexusnewsfeed.com/article/an...f-days-is-near

    Prophecy of the end of the world continues to inspire wild and bewitching theories in popular culture. Some sprouted from ancient knowledge of the Hopi and Mayan calendar. Biblical references abound… but one ancient culture has always remained silent.

    Just under a year ago, I started hearing rumours that Australian Indigenous Elders were saying it was the time of the End of Days. Some I know have already gone back to “country" to prepare their spirit and connect back to the land. All in preparation for what is to come.

    It is important to note that before the British came to Australia in the late 18th century, the Indigenous people of Australian did not have a word for “time", nor did it factor into their daily thinking, as it does in westernised cultures. No calendars. Just cycles and seasons. They literally lived in the now.

    Recently the Elders have been seeing the signs of the End of Days. Some of those signs have to do with the deformed baby whales being observed in the oceans recently (presumably because of Fukushima radiation). They say we have less than two years before the End of Days.

    The Australian Aboriginal people have been on this land between 65,000 and 120,000 years; possibly more. In that time they have seen an ice age come and go (last glacial period around 12,000 years ago); survived the Toba super volcanic eruption (75,000 years ago) and several massive coastal tsunamis which exposed or sunk huge tracts of Australia’s east coast. None of these events was considered the “End of Days”.

    DNA demonstrates that the Australian Aboriginal culture is the oldest culture on Earth.

    We hear plenty of prophecy and prediction from other cultures, all of whom measured time, and experienced time as linear.

    In a world-first declaration, respected Elders have volunteered their knowledge, including impending cataclysm, just two years or less from our doorstep. As a trusted and chosen platform, NEXUS Magazine has been unexpectedly charged with the sharing of this knowledge to the world.

    With all the warning signs erupting, Aboriginal Elders have discussed and identified now is the time to bring forth their knowledge of what is to come.

    NEXUS Magazine is honoured and excited to be bringing you the Secret History of Australia Conference in just four weeks from now.

    If you are unable to attend this amazing event, we will have most presentations available post conference for streaming/download or on DVD.

    – Duncan Roads, Editor, NEXUS Magazine
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    Default Re: Thinking the Unthinkable: a WHAT IF scenario, should there be major sea level changes coming soon

    In my dowsing for predictions of human population and survival upon the Earth, I get that many will die, but not to the extent that some have posted in this thread. I decided not to ask about world population numbers for January, 2020, but rather look at April, 2020. I get that the human population in April will be between 5 and 6 billion. A year later, in April of 2021, there will be between 4 and 5 billion humans. Thereafter, the total population numbers will be more stable. I was not biased in obtaining these numbers. I really did not know what to expect. I will need to do more research before I can accept these numbers as a high potential prediction. They may greatly change as I continue to look into the subject.

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