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    Default Re: Problems with Mark Richards' SSP testimony to Kerry Cassidy

    Quote Posted by Valerie Villars (here)
    I once dated someone who later went to prison. Does that make me a criminal by association?
    I was referring to you dissing Bill just because he once went out with Kerry.

    I have respect for some of Kerry's work in the past but that doesn't mean I believe any or all of what she's pushing.

    I think Mark Richard's story, as told by him is bull****. I agree with you there.

    However, I won't watch your documentary because you are so combative and ugly. No offence.
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    Default Re: Problems with Mark Richards' SSP testimony to Kerry Cassidy

    Hay Valerie Villars
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    Default Re: Problems with Mark Richards' SSP testimony to Kerry Cassidy

    Ok, enough of this sh!t!


    I am closing this thread while the mods and admins get together and decide on what actions to take with respect to the overall disrespect exhibited.
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    Default Re: Problems with Mark Richards' SSP testimony to Kerry Cassidy

    Quote Posted by kevin Moore (here)
    Well Debra when your dealing with insane people all logic goes out the window. The community i'm involved with is one ****ed up crazy community and I will not stand there any more and say well its ok.. the insane people like Kerry and many others attract large audiences because they promote Fear Porn and insane crap like Mark Richards. So for me I'm making a stand and my first insane person to go against and working in the dark was Kerry - Bills ex lover. Im coming for them all it my only weapon ****ing TRUTH......... - we have to show the miss truths and thats my mission and if I can help one person from getting into one of these cults ive done my job

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    No way gemm13 would I make that public -but it ant just crazy Kerry
    Kevin, I was so proud of you in that video in which you made a personal stand, the one where you called out Kerry, the one that opens with you calling out Joanne Richards at that public event. You were raw and honest and angry.

    But don’t go after us. We are not them. And I do include Bill in this. Like us, Bill has nothing to do with the work of Kerry Cassidy or this charlatan, Richards. Get it? He and we are on the same side.

    Yes, this whole case is a disgrace - you bet! I am with you on this.

    Just don’t come after us.

    People on this thread have spent months of their interest, time and giving of their big hearts in support of you and Geoff. Get it right, mate. Take some time for reflection. A good pot of tea. We have all got some bigger fish to fry.

    Also, I encourage you to take a deeper look around you on this board. Avalon members are pretty astute in weeding out swamp critters. You should take some time, if you haven’t already to look at other threads ongoing on this forum. Some amazing investigative work.

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    Default Re: Problems with Mark Richards' SSP testimony to Kerry Cassidy

    Quote Posted by Hervé (here)
    I am closing this thread while the mods and admins get together and decide on what actions to take with respect to the overall disrespect exhibited.
    Thanks, Hervé. That was the appropriate thing to do.

    Right, folks, Listen up.

    Kevin, listen well.

    A team of 8 (eight) moderators — myself, Billy, Debra, Hervé, Joe from the Carolinas, Mike, Paul, Sierra and Tintin — met online for over an hour and a half to decide what best to do here. That shows how seriously we took what's happening here.

    There was a wide range of opinions and creative suggestions. As with any healthy meeting, we all listened well and each one of us, myself included, modified our views as we discussed all aspects of this.

    Here's what we decided. It took us over 90 minutes to reach consensus. It was time well-spent.

    Under any other circumstances
    , a member addressing another in the way that Kevin did Val above, would warrant at least an immediate suspension and very possibly a total unsubscription. (That's a civilized word for 'ban'.)

    This is NOT acceptable here.

    One longstanding member, highly respected by the entire community and with a huge amount of experience on the forum, wrote to us:
    Quote No one has ever been given so much leniency in moderation on Avalon. I'd throw his ass out, yesterday. He's not going to turn this around, so the only way this will go is even uglier. It's far beyond the point where the veracity of his material/documentary even matters. His troll-some and attacking behavior have shown that his real goal on Avalon is smearing Bill. His issue here is to attack Bill for not picking up a pitchfork and going after Kerry with him, and he's trying to bully/shame Bill into becoming his accomplice.
    Right. There's a lot of truth there.

    But Kevin, we eventually decided that we're NOT going to ban you. You came within a whisker of being gone.

    You need to understand that there's not one person here who does not 100% support the premise of your documentary.

    However, if you step out of line one more time, you're out. Period. That means that from here on out it's 100% up to you.

    It doesn't matter how angry you are, or how passionate, or how much you stand for your cause. If you think the alternative media needs a major clean up (and it sure does), then start right where you are. That applies for us all.

    You can't just come to a private party like this and start punching out all the other guests just because you're angry at someone who's not even here.

    You can NOT insult good people who are on your side. All your posts have remained on record, undeleted and unedited, because we stand for transparency here.

    I want people to see what you've been writing. And what we've all been writing.

    If you're on the public stage, you're on the public stage. That was what you always wanted. Deal with it, be responsible, and be a statesman for your cause.

    If you don't know what that means, you shouldn't be on stage at all.

    So, we're re-opening the thread for comments and discussion, as before. Friends, please set an example for Kevin here, and be courteous. Be truthful, frank, clear, honest, straight, but courteous.

    And Kevin, one more time. You have no enemies here. If this agreed, and very exceptional, moderators' action doesn't show that to you, I don't know what will.



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    Default Re: Problems with Mark Richards' SSP testimony to Kerry Cassidy

    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Quote Posted by Hervé (here)
    I am closing this thread while the mods and admins get together and decide on what actions to take with respect to the overall disrespect exhibited.
    Thanks, Hervé. That was the appropriate thing to do.

    Right, folks, Listen up.

    Kevin, listen well.

    A team of 8 (eight) moderators — myself, Billy, Debra, Hervé, Joe from the Carolinas, Mike, Paul, Sierra and Tintin — met online for over an hour and a half to decide what best to do here. That shows how seriously we took what's happening here.

    There was a wide range of opinions and creative suggestions. As with any healthy meeting, we all listened well and each one of us, myself included, modified our views as we discussed all aspects of this.

    Here's what we decided. It took us over 90 minutes to reach consensus. It was time well-spent.

    Under any other circumstances
    , a member addressing another in the way that Kevin did Val above, would warrant at least an immediate suspension and very possibly a total unsubscription. (That's a civilized word for 'ban'.)

    This is NOT acceptable here.

    One longstanding member, highly respected by the entire community and with a huge amount of experience on the forum, wrote to us:
    Quote No one has ever been given so much leniency in moderation on Avalon. I'd throw his ass out, yesterday. He's not going to turn this around, so the only way this will go is even uglier. It's far beyond the point where the veracity of his material/documentary even matters. His troll-some and attacking behavior have shown that his real goal on Avalon is smearing Bill. His issue here is to attack Bill for not picking up a pitchfork and going after Kerry with him, and he's trying to bully/shame Bill into becoming his accomplice.
    Right. There's a lot of truth there.

    But Kevin, we eventually decided that we're NOT going to ban you. You came within a whisker of being gone.

    You need to understand that there's not one person here who does not 100% support the premise of your documentary.

    However, if you step out of line one more time, you're out. Period. That means that from here on out it's 100% up to you.

    It doesn't matter how angry you are, or how passionate, or how much you stand for your cause. If you think the alternative media needs a major clean up (and it sure does), then start right where you are. That applies for us all.

    You can't just come to a private party like this and start punching out all the other guests just because you're angry at someone who's not even here.

    You can NOT insult good people who are on your side. All your posts have remained on record, undeleted and unedited, because we stand for transparency here.

    I want people to see what you've been writing. And what we've all been writing.

    If you're on the public stage, you're on the public stage. That was what you always wanted. Deal with it, be responsible, and be a statesman for your cause.

    If you don't know what that means, you shouldn't be on stage at all.

    So, we're re-opening the thread for comments and discussion, as before. Friends, please set an example for Kevin here, and be courteous. Be truthful, frank, clear, honest, straight, but courteous.

    And Kevin, one more time. You have no enemies here. If this agreed, and very exceptional, moderators' action doesn't show that to you, I don't know what will.


    You and the mods are to be congratulated for your collective patience and leniency. In my book he crossed the line some time ago. I'd throw his butt out stat.

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    Default Re: Problems with Mark Richards' SSP testimony to Kerry Cassidy

    I've noticed that people who attempt to make enemies of people who aren't their enemies have a very difficult life of their own making. I don't know Kevin or Geoff at all and have not read this thread (except this last bit to see what the drama was about). So any speculation here would be just a guess on my part..
    When you are one step ahead of the crowd, you are a genius.
    Two steps ahead, and you are deemed a crackpot.

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    Default Re: Problems with Mark Richards' SSP testimony to Kerry Cassidy

    I think it would be better not to assume that we know what Kevin's reasons have been for attacking Bill and assuming that the members of Avalon are against him and don't believe his story or don't care, and let him explain himself why he has come here with guns blazing.
    But I think he really needs to understand that Kerry is still a member here not because she and Bill are still on the same page, but because Bill is a kind person and a gentleman, though they have long since parted ways.
    Many Avalon members, myself included, have been members of this forum since the time when Project Camelot was still young and the forum hadn't even come into existence, and I think I can speak for many by stating we remember and are still grateful for the pioneering, paradigm changing work they did together, helping to blaze a trail for the whole alternative media.
    And for women especially, to see Kerry's gutsy way of standing up to threats and formidable challenges was very inspiring.
    Some of us have discussed over the past several years, and way before Mark Richards ever came into the picture, our concerns about how Kerry has seemed to have lost her way, but rather than rage and a desire to destroy, I think the predominating feeling is sadness and regret that such a courageous woman has been so conned and apparently lost her ability to discern truth from fiction.
    I had a schizophrenic sister who slowly became more and more divorced from reality until finally she had to be institutionalized.
    I still loved her, even after she had lost her grip on reality, and if anyone had asked me to attack and revile her because she had been overpowered by malevolent entities, which is what I think happens to a lot of insane people, I would most certainly not have agreed.
    Where Kerry is concerned, there is still a human being in there, though it may be that there is nothing at all human left of Mark Richards, and there is just some evil, devious demon residing in that human body now.
    But perhaps what separates the sane individuals from the insane ones and the ones who are teetering on the border line and the out and out satanic ones is nothing more than our sense of compassion for others, and our desire to treat others fairly and with courtesy and respect.
    I hope Kevin will learn to see that that is what Avalon has been attempting to do, though as with any sane human exchange, there must be healthy boundaries and respect for self as well as others.
    And a hat tip to Haveblue whose post I just read here: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...=1#post1263982 which includes the following:
    "But while I'm here and it may be the wrong thread but I want to give Kerry C (who I have been 'hard' on in the past) much credit for her round tables she has held recently with Deborah Taveres. Katherine Horton and Alexander on Targeted Individuals, mind control, California fires.. A very good all women panel that does women proud. I really hope that Kerry does more of this type of credible and serious stuff.
    Not once , for once of late, did Kerry mention that name MR."

    I have been feeling the same way about those discussions, which are bringing so much great information to the table. It seems like a sign to me that Kerry might be able to get back on track.
    Last edited by onawah; 3rd January 2019 at 01:36.
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    Default Re: Problems with Mark Richards' SSP testimony to Kerry Cassidy

    Quote Posted by kevin Moore (here)
    Quote Posted by greybeard (here)
    "How to win friends and influence people" a suggested read for Kevin.
    Chris
    Friends dont matter right now im more bothered about telling people the truth
    No man is an island Kevin, and neither can you be a one man army.

    And living your journalism 24/7 is going to drive you around the bend.

    They say a break is as good as holiday, seriously just take a few days off and "totally switch off from the alternative community", reconnect with friends and family and do the things you really enjoy.

    We are not against you, I support your work you seem to have gone to great lengths to uncover the truth about Mark Richards and I have been following your progress in this investigation on youtube.

    Regards Boris

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    Default Re: Problems with Mark Richards' SSP testimony to Kerry Cassidy

    Quote Posted by kevin Moore (here)
    Hay Valerie Villars
    Go **** yourself ….yeah you can say I’m ugly No Offence taken - Much love and light

    I can't believe no one has quoted this just to lock it up as an example of who Kevin Moore really is.
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    Default Re: Problems with Mark Richards' SSP testimony to Kerry Cassidy

    Quote Posted by kevin Moore (here)
    Quote Posted by greybeard (here)
    "How to win friends and influence people" a suggested read for Kevin.
    Chris
    Friends dont matter right now im more bothered about telling people the truth
    “Whenever you have truth it must be given with love, or the message and the messenger will be rejected.”

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    Default Re: Problems with Mark Richards' SSP testimony to Kerry Cassidy

    A word of caution:

    I ain't buying Moore's "passion and rage" is all about TRUTH and saving people from cults. For sure, this is the glossy, innocent but tough guy message he is currently trying to portray. But I do not believe for one second that this is his PRIMARY motive - and that means he's a hazard.

    Moore is self-serving using any angle he can find to build his channel into big numbers in the hope he can eventually dump the community and people "he supposedly cares about" and move onto hollywood fame and fortune and be the next Oprah Winfrey.
    [Not speculation here - Moore stated this himself @1:15:00 in his Patty Greer interview. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rf8zBsM85V4]

    This is not honest, real, courageous journalism. It's exploitation!

    Moore picked a slam dunk documentary - a first year uni student could have put it together with the legal stuff available.

    It was never about the victims of Mark Richards! They are just useful "sympathy" spin. Politicians use victims for sympathy spin all the time - clever move Kevin to launch your next career move!

    No speculation again here, as Moore told us he only took on the Richard's investigation because Geoff trolled him to, which means Kevin had to find a way that it could seriously benefit him . . . and he did!

    Disable Kerry Cassidy and pick up the fall out audience from her platform.
    And then take down a heap of other platforms he hatched in his mind along the way so he can become Alpha in the community.

    Moore is jubilant and ecstatic now the documentary is completed and ready to be released; especially when he will be predicting "mainstream audiences" will eat it up for the reality part whilst judging the alternative/conspiracy people as crackpots.

    Hence the "Victory [ALPHA] Pissing" on Bill and Avalon. You think he's arrogant and rude now - just wait until he gets his Doco on Netflix!

    Member Flash did us a huge favour by demonstrating immediately how she would never have questioned Moore's credibility, judgement/opinion on any of his documentaries if she had never witnessed his rude, arrogant, unstable ranting on Avalon.

    If Moore was genuinely in this just to "help" he would do neutral due diligence research and not threaten to use his platform to launch "unfounded" attacks because of his "personal bias" and belief that he is the only "saviour" in the community. Good Grief - do we really have to endure another one!

    This is the slippery slope of future judgment facing all those Moore decides to place in his line of fire - and Moore not only knows it - he's intoxicated with its potential!

    He's not frightened of losing a few die-hard Avalon members - heck he thinks he's about to get Cassidy's audience let alone thousands of others who will "potentially" only see him as the hero who brought further grief satisfaction to the light of day for the victim's families.

    How am I doing so far Kevin?
    Last edited by Gemma13; 4th January 2019 at 00:25. Reason: remove twitter link as it no longer went to the tweet I linked to

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    Default Re: Problems with Mark Richards' SSP testimony to Kerry Cassidy

    You are telling us he is another Goodie, well his behavior on the thread is quite similar, needless to say.

    I still give him a slight benefice of doubt, because I am a genuine person. But gosh, doesn’t it look like the narcissists and exploiters I have seen on the past : claiming victimhood or claiming savior while rolling out the artillerie and shooting anyone on their path.

    We will see...

    the number of games and people ready to play it is plenty for PTB. Everyone has its price. Kerry named hers, Kevin may be still lower. Who knows.

    Quote Posted by Gemma13 (here)
    A word of caution:

    I ain't buying Moore's "passion and rage" is all about TRUTH and saving people from cults. For sure, this is the glossy, innocent but tough guy message he is currently trying to portray. But I do not believe for one second that this is his PRIMARY motive - and that means he's a hazard.

    Moore is self-serving using any angle he can find to build his channel into big numbers in the hope he can eventually dump the community and people "he supposedly cares about" and move onto hollywood fame and fortune and be the next Oprah Winfrey.
    [Not speculation here - Moore stated this himself @1:15:00 in his Patty Greer interview. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rf8zBsM85V4]

    https://twitter.com/kevinmooreshow/s...10235657977856

    This is not honest, real, courageous journalism. It's exploitation!

    Moore picked a slam dunk documentary - a first year uni student could have put it together with the legal stuff available.

    It was never about the victims of Mark Richards! They are just useful "sympathy" spin. Politicians use victims for sympathy spin all the time - clever move Kevin to launch your next career move!

    No speculation again here, as Moore told us he only took on the Richard's investigation because Geoff trolled him to, which means Kevin had to find a way that it could seriously benefit him . . . and he did!

    Disable Kerry Cassidy and pick up the fall out audience from her platform.
    And then take down a heap of other platforms he hatched in his mind along the way so he can become Alpha in the community.

    Moore is jubilant and ecstatic now the documentary is completed and ready to be released; especially when he will be predicting "mainstream audiences" will eat it up for the reality part whilst judging the alternative/conspiracy people as crackpots.

    Hence the "Victory [ALPHA] Pissing" on Bill and Avalon. You think he's arrogant and rude now - just wait until he gets his Doco on Netflix!

    Member Flash did us a huge favour by demonstrating immediately how she would never have questioned Moore's credibility, judgement/opinion on any of his documentaries if she had never witnessed his rude, arrogant, unstable ranting on Avalon.

    If Moore was genuinely in this just to "help" he would do neutral due diligence research and not threaten to use his platform to launch "unfounded" attacks because of his "personal bias" and belief that he is the only "saviour" in the community. Good Grief - do we really have to endure another one!

    This is the slippery slope of future judgment facing all those Moore decides to place in his line of fire - and Moore not only knows it - he's intoxicated with its potential!

    He's not frightened of losing a few die-hard Avalon members - heck he thinks he's about to get Cassidy's audience let alone thousands of others who will "potentially" only see him as the hero who brought further grief satisfaction to the light of day for the victim's families.

    How am I doing so far Kevin?
    How to let the desire of your mind become the desire of your heart - Gurdjieff

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    Let’s not mince any words here and address the elephant in the room: it’s obvious that Kevin was trying his best to be kicked out from Avalon so he can use that later against Bill and this forum. I bet he is even surprised that he wasn’t kicked out yet.

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    Greeting Friends, Guests,
    My warmest wishes to all for a year, of greater Disclosure of Truth, and deeper understanding of the Shackles that have been placed upon our Minds & our Perception...

    I place this here, although I was feeling for Omni when I read the following , just a few minutes ago over on R.M.N.

    What A Shaman Sees In A Mental Hospital

    Posted By: LilliHart
    Date: Thursday, 3-Jan-2019 09:09:03

    The Shamanic View of Mental Illness


    In the shamanic view, mental illness signals “the birth of a healer,” explains Malidoma Patrice Somé. Thus, mental disorders are spiritual emergencies, spiritual crises, and need to be regarded as such to aid the healer in being born.

    What those in the West view as mental illness, the Dagara people regard as “good news from the other world.” The person going through the crisis has been chosen as a medium for a message to the community that needs to be communicated from the spirit realm. “Mental disorder, behavioral disorder of all kinds, signal the fact that two obviously incompatible energies have merged into the same field,” says Dr. Somé. These disturbances result when the person does not get assistance in dealing with the presence of the energy from the spirit realm.

    MORE:https://www.jbbardot.com/shaman-mental-hospital/

    Please realise, I am NOT suggesting anything here bout ' Mental Illness ', for except in the case of Physical Injury and Neurological impact, I do not subscribe to the term ' Mental Illness ' { Never have, even from my teen-age years... }


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    The enlightned Man or Woman these days, realise's there are nefarious causes to
    ' Mental Instability '. as Omni has amply educated Avalonians and Guests to.

    From - Joe : " The lives of Mark, Kerry, Geoff, & Kevin are inexplicably linked. Through the murder, fire, and drama - they are connected for some reason. Karma "

    From - Onawah : "I had a Sister who slowly became more and more divorced from reality until finally she had to be institutionalized.
    I still loved her, even after she had lost her grip on reality, and if anyone had asked me to attack and revile her because she had been overpowered by malevolent entities, which is what I think happens to a lot of insane people, I would most certainly not have agreed.

    Where Kerry is concerned, there is still a human being in there, though it may be that there is nothing at all human left of Mark Richards, and there is just some evil, devious demon residing in that human body now.

    But perhaps what separates the sane individuals from the insane ones and the ones who are teetering on the border line and the out and out satanic ones is nothing more than our sense of compassion for others, and our desire to treat others fairly and with courtesy and respect.

    I hope Kevin will learn to see that that is what Avalon has been attempting to do, though as with any sane human exchange, there must be healthy boundaries and respect for self as well as others.

    And a hat tip to Haveblue whose post I just read here: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...=1#post1263982 "

    All above editted, save my time being careful with multi-quoting, sorry !

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    I really appreciate the kindness some have shown towards Kevin, his work, is NOT that with which I'm familiar. The amount of re-learning we are faced with is enormous, and this lifetime I have, barely sufficient, to more than 'scratch-the-surface-'.
    When my pc works proberly again, I will watch ' Penny Bradley '[ S.S.P. ], for I am intrigued...

    To the Mod's team, I am impressed with the depth of feeling , you've given to seeking an understanding compassion and compromise...

    To those who would ' Cast adrift ', anyone in 'troubled waters', I say, re-visit your sentiments about this, at some time, and know whether your 'judgment', was hasty, or well-founded...

    Since I like to share images,
    This might serve to remind ourselves,
    that a 'Good God,
    {S}he, didn't have this below, in mind...


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    Quote Posted by Jad (here)
    Let’s not mince any words here and address the elephant in the room: it’s obvious that Kevin was trying his best to be kicked out from Avalon so he can use that later against Bill and this forum. I bet he is even surprised that he wasn’t kicked out yet.

    All very well, but it was not Kevin who instigated the public 'hand-bags at dawn' kerfuffle was it.

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    Quote Posted by onawah (here)
    I think it would be better not to assume that we know what Kevin's reasons have been for attacking Bill and assuming that the members of Avalon are against him and don't believe his story or don't care, and let him explain himself why he has come here with guns blazing.
    But I think he really needs to understand that Kerry is still a member here not because she and Bill are still on the same page, but because Bill is a kind person and a gentleman, though they have long since parted ways.
    Many Avalon members, myself included, have been members of this forum since the time when Project Camelot was still young and the forum hadn't even come into existence, and I think I can speak for many by stating we remember and are still grateful for the pioneering, paradigm changing work they did together, helping to blaze a trail for the whole alternative media.
    And for women especially, to see Kerry's gutsy way of standing up to threats and formidable challenges was very inspiring.
    Some of us have discussed over the past several years, and way before Mark Richards ever came into the picture, our concerns about how Kerry has seemed to have lost her way, but rather than rage and a desire to destroy, I think the predominating feeling is sadness and regret that such a courageous woman has been so conned and apparently lost her ability to discern truth from fiction.
    I had a schizophrenic sister who slowly became more and more divorced from reality until finally she had to be institutionalized.
    I still loved her, even after she had lost her grip on reality, and if anyone had asked me to attack and revile her because she had been overpowered by malevolent entities, which is what I think happens to a lot of insane people, I would most certainly not have agreed.
    Where Kerry is concerned, there is still a human being in there, though it may be that there is nothing at all human left of Mark Richards, and there is just some evil, devious demon residing in that human body now.
    But perhaps what separates the sane individuals from the insane ones and the ones who are teetering on the border line and the out and out satanic ones is nothing more than our sense of compassion for others, and our desire to treat others fairly and with courtesy and respect.
    I hope Kevin will learn to see that that is what Avalon has been attempting to do, though as with any sane human exchange, there must be healthy boundaries and respect for self as well as others.
    And a hat tip to Haveblue whose post I just read here: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...=1#post1263982 which includes the following:
    "But while I'm here and it may be the wrong thread but I want to give Kerry C (who I have been 'hard' on in the past) much credit for her round tables she has held recently with Deborah Taveres. Katherine Horton and Alexander on Targeted Individuals, mind control, California fires.. A very good all women panel that does women proud. I really hope that Kerry does more of this type of credible and serious stuff.
    Not once , for once of late, did Kerry mention that name MR."

    I have been feeling the same way about those discussions, which are bringing so much great information to the table. It seems like a sign to me that Kerry might be able to get back on track.
    • I will use your street name for now called onawah
    • I couldn’t care less if Kerry is a member here or not nor do I care for her
    • Yes your right Kerry Lost her way completely with Mark and when you read the court documentation which is available now on https://www.thekevinmoore.com/richardbaldwinmovie/ you will see that Mark is completely guilty and is NOT A SSP whistle blower
    • Yes, again I agree as you say Kerry is becoming crazy and will one day need medical help.
    • Kerry is def not the person she was when she went out with bill from what I can see

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    Quote Posted by Gemma13 (here)
    A word of caution:

    I ain't buying Moore's "passion and rage" is all about TRUTH and saving people from cults. For sure, this is the glossy, innocent but tough guy message he is currently trying to portray. But I do not believe for one second that this is his PRIMARY motive - and that means he's a hazard.

    Moore is self-serving using any angle he can find to build his channel into big numbers in the hope he can eventually dump the community and people "he supposedly cares about" and move onto hollywood fame and fortune and be the next Oprah Winfrey.
    [Not speculation here - Moore stated this himself @1:15:00 in his Patty Greer interview. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rf8zBsM85V4]

    https://twitter.com/kevinmooreshow/s...10235657977856

    This is not honest, real, courageous journalism. It's exploitation!

    Moore picked a slam dunk documentary - a first year uni student could have put it together with the legal stuff available.

    It was never about the victims of Mark Richards! They are just useful "sympathy" spin. Politicians use victims for sympathy spin all the time - clever move Kevin to launch your next career move!

    No speculation again here, as Moore told us he only took on the Richard's investigation because Geoff trolled him to, which means Kevin had to find a way that it could seriously benefit him . . . and he did!

    Disable Kerry Cassidy and pick up the fall out audience from her platform.
    And then take down a heap of other platforms he hatched in his mind along the way so he can become Alpha in the community.

    Moore is jubilant and ecstatic now the documentary is completed and ready to be released; especially when he will be predicting "mainstream audiences" will eat it up for the reality part whilst judging the alternative/conspiracy people as crackpots.

    Hence the "Victory [ALPHA] Pissing" on Bill and Avalon. You think he's arrogant and rude now - just wait until he gets his Doco on Netflix!

    Member Flash did us a huge favour by demonstrating immediately how she would never have questioned Moore's credibility, judgement/opinion on any of his documentaries if she had never witnessed his rude, arrogant, unstable ranting on Avalon.

    If Moore was genuinely in this just to "help" he would do neutral due diligence research and not threaten to use his platform to launch "unfounded" attacks because of his "personal bias" and belief that he is the only "saviour" in the community. Good Grief - do we really have to endure another one!

    This is the slippery slope of future judgment facing all those Moore decides to place in his line of fire - and Moore not only knows it - he's intoxicated with its potential!

    He's not frightened of losing a few die-hard Avalon members - heck he thinks he's about to get Cassidy's audience let alone thousands of others who will "potentially" only see him as the hero who brought further grief satisfaction to the light of day for the victim's families.

    How am I doing so far Kevin?


    Hay Gemma13 ill use your street name for now as I have no idea who you are

    Iam a hazard your dam right and your dealing with someone who doesn’t care anymore AND i cant stand people like you and others who find it ok for people out there to promote Fear Porn.

    Dam right I wanted to do more shows which are more helpful to people and show real life inspiration stories in the future much like Oprah but THATS not my path right now and you mention Patty Greer theirs another sick person in my community.

    If a first year student could have put together my documentary then why didn't wonder women Kerry do that – ahhh that’s right shes done all the research and found mark to be innocent - -- by the I went across America to film that documentary and you didn’t and sure didn’t meet the murder victims sister Susan Baldwin - but you don’t care about the person who died and those it effected you just here to show how intelligent you are to have worked out my so called reason for doing the documentary - big pat on the back

    You think I want kerrys Crazy audience you need to get you head checked I couldn’t care less if just a few people watched it – you are funny GEM----BUT WRONG !!!!!!! DRAIN THE SWAMP !!!!!!!! DRAIN THE SWAMP !!!!!!DRAIN THE SWAMP oh and by the way this documentary is FREE ITS PUT ME IN BIG DEBT
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    Quote Posted by jad (here)
    let’s not mince any words here and address the elephant in the room: It’s obvious that kevin was trying his best to be kicked out from avalon so he can use that later against bill and this forum. I bet he is even surprised that he wasn’t kicked out yet.
    not really

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