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    Quote Posted by YoYoYo (here)
    I've seen other Q followers slip up on this point. Q, with its self proclaimed, unstraight methods becomes a magnet for what you want to believe
    Absolutely, humans see what they are looking for.


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    A bit more than "humans see what they are looking for", Q is a labyrinth of, what I think I can best describe as, unstraight methods

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    "unstraight'' isn't a word! :-)
    The genius consistently stands out from the masses in that he unconsciously anticipates truths of which the population as a whole only later becomes conscious! Speech-circa 1937

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    In my opinion, based on current daily events (RussiaGate, ObamaGate, MSM and Democratic leadership coordinated lies, illegal unmasking, all of these de-classs revelations, etc.) predicted and foreshadowed by Q ongoing since Nov 2017...

    this thread, and indeed Avalon's dismissive relegation of the Qanon research community to the private Avalon backwaters, has not aged well.

    Unless the purpose of that privatizing was more about hiding the extremely rude and disagreeable nature of the debate, to which this thread's author contributed greatly.

    And we (qanon researchers and followers) are still not parasites, or deluded, in finding value in this communication operation and channel.

    On the contrary, we were well informed in advance about much that has become public and more to come.

    In my opinion.

    later edit: the initial UniRock story in this initial thread post was debunked within a day or so by Neon Revolt, but folks here preferred to confirm their biases rather than be open to the alternatives.

    Ongoing Q posts, synchronized White House tweets, and plenty of events ever since have confirmed the deep insider connections of this channel, and the falsity of the premise of this thread, to those with research bents and an open mind.
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    Spot on commentary from Caitlin Johnstone

    * * * * * * * * * *

    I write against QAnon periodically for the exact same reason I write against the plutocratic media: it's an obvious propaganda construct designed to manufacture support for the status quo among people who otherwise would not support it. It presents itself as an exciting movement where the little guy is finally rising up and throwing off the chains of the tyrannical forces which have been exploiting and oppressing us, yet in reality all it's doing is telling a discontented sector of the population to relax and "trust the plan" and put all their faith in the leader of the US government.

    And that's exactly what makes QAnon so uniquely toxic. It's not just that it gets people believing false things which confuse and alienate them, it's that it's a fake, decoy imitation of what a healthy revolutionary impulse would look like. It sells people on important truths that they already intuitively know on some level, like the untrustworthiness of the mass media, that the official elected US government aren't really the ones calling the shots, and that we need a great awakening. It takes those vital, truthful, healthy revolutionary impulses, then twists them around into support for the United States president and the agendas of the Republican Party.

    And now literally any time I speak out against Trump doing something self-evidently horrible like orchestrating the extradition of Julian Assange or assassinating Iran's top military official, I get QAnon adherents in the comments section telling me to "relax" and "trust the plan" because this is actually a brilliant strategic maneuver against the deep state. Any argument against any longstanding evil Fox News Republican agenda that Trump advances has a widely promulgated explanation for why it's actually good and beneficial among the QAnon crowd.

    A healthy impulse to fight the power is twisted into support for the most unconscionable aspects of the ruling power establishment. You see healthy impulses twisted and corrupted like this all the time, all across the political spectrum. The healthy impulse to fight racism and bigotry is twisted into support for the warmongering, oppressive and exploitative Democratic Party which is nothing but destructive toward the populations it pretends to protect. The healthy impulse to defend the helpless and fight tyranny is railroaded into support for acts of regime change "humanitarian" interventionism

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    Quote Posted by Kryztian (here)
    Spot on commentary from Caitlin Johnstone

    * * * * * * * * * *

    I write against QAnon periodically for the exact same reason I write against the plutocratic media: it's an obvious propaganda construct designed to manufacture support for the status quo among people who otherwise would not support it. It presents itself as an exciting movement where the little guy is finally rising up and throwing off the chains of the tyrannical forces which have been exploiting and oppressing us, yet in reality all it's doing is telling a discontented sector of the population to relax and "trust the plan" and put all their faith in the leader of the US government.

    And that's exactly what makes QAnon so uniquely toxic. It's not just that it gets people believing false things which confuse and alienate them, it's that it's a fake, decoy imitation of what a healthy revolutionary impulse would look like. It sells people on important truths that they already intuitively know on some level, like the untrustworthiness of the mass media, that the official elected US government aren't really the ones calling the shots, and that we need a great awakening. It takes those vital, truthful, healthy revolutionary impulses, then twists them around into support for the United States president and the agendas of the Republican Party.

    And now literally any time I speak out against Trump doing something self-evidently horrible like orchestrating the extradition of Julian Assange or assassinating Iran's top military official, I get QAnon adherents in the comments section telling me to "relax" and "trust the plan" because this is actually a brilliant strategic maneuver against the deep state. Any argument against any longstanding evil Fox News Republican agenda that Trump advances has a widely promulgated explanation for why it's actually good and beneficial among the QAnon crowd.

    A healthy impulse to fight the power is twisted into support for the most unconscionable aspects of the ruling power establishment. You see healthy impulses twisted and corrupted like this all the time, all across the political spectrum. The healthy impulse to fight racism and bigotry is twisted into support for the warmongering, oppressive and exploitative Democratic Party which is nothing but destructive toward the populations it pretends to protect. The healthy impulse to defend the helpless and fight tyranny is railroaded into support for acts of regime change "humanitarian" interventionism
    I am so going to steal this, and I'll credit you as the one who shared it here, Kryztian.

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    Funny how Caitlin Johnson takes part in the orchestrated attack from the mockingbird media against Qanon right after Trumps comments about the movement. She is a Bernie bro though, and I can’t find any articles from her being equally critical of the deep state funded and organised Antifa riots. In fact she seems to be defending the Portland rioters in the complete article Kryztian took a snippet from. Is she just another anarcho-socialist propagandist? I lost any faith in Caitlins objectivity when she said the Bernie bros meme warfare skills would destroy team Trump in an election battle.
    Quote EIGHTY articles published against #QAnon in the past 24 hours.

    The Mockingbirds flocking together in unison; total and complete panic at the loss of narrative control.

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    Ezra Cohen Watnick is said to be Q by Jeffrey Prather in this very compelling video

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAL8...ature=emb_logo

    this man seems to me to have all the "in the know " to make this claim.

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    Kerry Cassidy interviews Austin Steinbart, a.k.a. "Baby Q", a.k.a. "Q from the future" fresh out of prison on "trumped" up charges. I am only half an hour in to it, and I am not posting this because I feel it has high truth value, but because of it's "conspira-tainment" value. Enjoy, with a big grain of salt!

    https://odysee.com/@PROJECTCAMELOT:d...INBART_FINAL:4

    https://cdn.lbryplayer.xyz/content/c...56ceb84/stream

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    Quote Posted by Kryztian (here)
    Spot on commentary from Caitlin Johnstone

    * * * * * * * * * *

    I write against QAnon periodically for the exact same reason I write against the plutocratic media: it's an obvious propaganda construct designed to manufacture support for the status quo among people who otherwise would not support it. It presents itself as an exciting movement where the little guy is finally rising up and throwing off the chains of the tyrannical forces which have been exploiting and oppressing us, yet in reality all it's doing is telling a discontented sector of the population to relax and "trust the plan" and put all their faith in the leader of the US government.

    And that's exactly what makes QAnon so uniquely toxic. It's not just that it gets people believing false things which confuse and alienate them, it's that it's a fake, decoy imitation of what a healthy revolutionary impulse would look like. It sells people on important truths that they already intuitively know on some level, like the untrustworthiness of the mass media, that the official elected US government aren't really the ones calling the shots, and that we need a great awakening. It takes those vital, truthful, healthy revolutionary impulses, then twists them around into support for the United States president and the agendas of the Republican Party.

    And now literally any time I speak out against Trump doing something self-evidently horrible like orchestrating the extradition of Julian Assange or assassinating Iran's top military official, I get QAnon adherents in the comments section telling me to "relax" and "trust the plan" because this is actually a brilliant strategic maneuver against the deep state. Any argument against any longstanding evil Fox News Republican agenda that Trump advances has a widely promulgated explanation for why it's actually good and beneficial among the QAnon crowd.
    I know you wrote this back in August of 2020, but might I just say you really hit the nail on the head with these sentiments. This is essentially the conclusion I have come to. I have no doubts that Q is a sophisticated operation ran by some one on the "inside". But when will people wake up and realize that not every one on the "inside" has the world and all its inhabitant's best interest at heart? Just because someone is an "insider" and truly has worked in high ranking government positions, does not mean that they are "coming out" with the whole truth and nothing but the truth. The world is seeped in damaging and harmful agendas. Q is no different. From the beginning I felt there was a lot of truth coming out of Q, but I didn't believe who they were blaming such things on. I feel that many of the horrible things they describe indeed do go on in the world. But those actions weren't coming from the individuals they were pointing the finger to. To me, it reeks of a reverse blame game coming from very powerful sources. A guilty conscious always points the finger to his opponents and blames them of doing the very things they are engaging in. It has to place its guilt somewhere.

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    Quote A healthy impulse to fight the power is twisted into support for the most unconscionable aspects of the ruling power establishment. You see healthy impulses twisted and corrupted like this all the time, all across the political spectrum. The healthy impulse to fight racism and bigotry is twisted into support for the warmongering, oppressive and exploitative Democratic Party which is nothing but destructive toward the populations it pretends to protect. The healthy impulse to defend the helpless and fight tyranny is railroaded into support for acts of regime change "humanitarian" interventionism
    Brilliantly stated.

    And as for the previous interview you just posted.. Oh my goodness.. No comment. Wow, is about all I can say.
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    latest MSM take

    Quote Breaking they found Q ( again &#128514

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-movement.html

    Quote Forensic linguists say they now know the origin of the Q texts on the message board that began the QAnon movement
    • Linguists with the firm OrphAnalytics and École des Chartes both concluded that Paul Furber and Ron Watkins launched the movement
    • Furber, 55, a tech journalist from South Africa, did not deny the claim
    • Watkins, 34, who is running for Congress in Arizona, defended the movement but denied that he was Q
    • Furber and Watkins reportedly worked together until December 2017 and then Watkins took over
    • QAnon followers believe that high-powered Democrats run an international child sex ring out of a pizza shop
    • Many rioters on the Capitol on January 6 believed in the QAnon movement and thought that the 2020 election was stolen


    By JANON FISHER FOR DAILYMAIL.COM

    PUBLISHED: 00:16 EST, 20 February 2022 | UPDATED: 03:46 EST, 20 February 2022

    One of the enduring mysteries of the Trump era - 'who is Q' - appears to be solved, sort of.

    Two sets of forensic linguists have published two separate papers using two different techniques to conclude that Q appears to be two people: South African tech journalist Paul Furber, 55, and 4chan internet message board moderator and computer entrepreneur Ron Watkins, 34, according to the studies.

    'While relying on two completely different technologies, both stylometric [quantitative study of literary style] analyses could establish that QAnon's early period on the 4chan forum, from October to December 2017, was likely the result of a collaboration between Paul Furber and Ron Watkins,' according to Claude-Alain Roten, the CEO of OrphAnalytics.

    Roten, who worked with Lionel Pousaz, a partner at OrphAnalytics, took the writings of several people identified as potential Q originators and analyzed writings they had authored then cross-referenced it using computer software with early QAnon posts.

    'Open your eyes. Many in our govt worship Satan,' was the first post on October 2017 that launched the movement, according to The New York Times, which was given exclusive access to the linguistics studies.

    When reached by the Times, Furber didn't dispute that Q's writing resembled his own, while Watkins, who is running for Congress in Arizona, told the NYT: 'I am not Q.'

    This debunks one theory that Q is a high-ranking military insider.



    Ron Watkins, 35, who is running for Congress in Arizona, defended the messaging of the movement as mostly good but denied being Q



    South African tech journalist Paul Furber, 55, was identified as one of the earlier advocates of QAnon
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