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    Hi guys, this can be the discussion thread for a possible visit to the Hypogeum and other ancient sites around Malta and Gozo by Avalon members either next year in 2019 or 2020.

    We would have to book months in advance for the Hypogeum as it gets booked up quickly. When I decided to visit last year, I booked my visit to the Hypogeum a year in advance. Then worked my dates for accommodation and flights around my bookings.
    I booked my accommodation not long after I booked the Hypogeum. As accommodation was also going quickly while researching. Accommodation is also not cheap. £50 a night for a two roomed apartment upwards. My amazing penthouse apartment in Sliema cost me £64 pounds per night. But my daughter and grandson ended up coming to join me, The isand of Gozo is much cheaper for accommodation. We spent one week there in a lovely two roomed apartment overlooking the beach and sea cove for £34 a night. I see now that that apartment has dropped to £27 per night. Off season makes a difference.

    I did not book my flights until 6 months later. I chose Ryanair as they were not only the cheapest but also the shortest flight. £180 return from Edinburgh to Malta that took three and a half hours.

    There are many options. Airb&b. Private rents, hotels, If there was enough of us, 10 would be great. We could rent a villa and share the cost.

    Local buses are great. 2 euro for any distance. The ticket is valid for 2 hrs. I used my ticket on 2 buses many times. Or you can buy a travel card for 20 euros and have unlimited travel for a week. If there is 10 of us we could maybe hire a minibus for specific days and visit a few sites in one day.

    Let me know if you are seriously interested ? When would be suitable to go ? How long you would like to go for ?

    And any other thoughts or input that you may have.

    And let's see what happens.
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    Default Proposed Avalon visit to the Hypogeum in Malta 2019

    Hi Billy
    My wife and might well be interested, we have long wanted to visit malta and make the visits you have and others , please let me know how plans progress , we are seriously interested and would have to fly from France , we travel often seeking knowledge and in the company of other avalonians would be the icing on the cake

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    Default Proposed Avalon visit to the Hypogeum in Malta 2019

    Those so far interested, Copied from the Malta thread.
    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...82#post1250682

    Quote Posted by leavesoftrees (here)
    Quote Posted by Billy (here)
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    The Hypogeum has been built with amazing acustics qualities within the plan. A lost knowledge from the ancient builders as far as I am concerned. As some of you already know I have travelled around the world seeking out ancient structures and temples with acustic properties. India being my last trip which I shared with you all on my Ajanta / Ellora thread. I have also visited sound structures in Greece, Turkey and of course Scotland. But the Hypogeum takes the cake as far as quality of resonance is concerned.
    Literally, out of this world.
    I have wanted to visit Malta and the hypogeum for many years. I look forward to hearing more about your visit there. Have you tested the acoustics of the King's chamber of the Great pyramid?
    Quote Posted by Star Mariner (here)
    Awesome Billy, thank you for sharing this. Gorgeous tones, and a wonderful experience, I would dearly love to visit the Hypogeum myself some day.

    Quote Posted by Jayke (here)

    An Avalon gathering in the Hypogeum! That would be an amazing experience. The Gayatri Mantra would sound incredible in there; the acoustics sound perfect for it!

    I’d probably get scared we might wake some sleeping giants though

    Quote Posted by FireRat (here)
    What a cool place, thanks for sharing!!
    I've always wanted to go to Malta myself! So much history there, and yep an avalon gathering there would be great!
    Quote Posted by Keyholder (here)
    Billy, I was in the Hypogeum about twelve years ago. And it is indeed a fascinating place. I wasn't at that time aware of toning, maybe it would have been easier to do then, than now.
    I used to travel a lot, now I have less the occasion. But hopefully, in a not too far future again. Who knows.
    Quote Posted by Keyholder (here)
    I had a look at flights to Malta, from Belgium. A return leaving three weeks from now and staying a week in Malta would be below 50 euro. But next year, around the same time, it would be over 300 euro (if booked now).
    Low cost companies like Ryanair adapt the prices according to their bookings, so late bookings could be best. I don't know how it would be from Scotland (or other places) to fly to Malta.
    Booking the Hypogeum ticket soon (in case we can get a small group together) and then watching for tickets to fly in the year to come is maybe the better option?
    I would certainly combine the Hypogeum visit with a stay on and visit of Malta and Gozo.
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    Default Proposed Avalon visit to the Hypogeum in Malta 2019

    I would LOVE to go Billy
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    9 folks so far interested. We may have to book two block visits at this rate as I have 2 more folks in Malta that maybe interested. One of those is the HEAD tourist guide whom I was communicating with quite regularly while in Malta. He carries the badge that allows him into any heritage site for free.
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    I want to be included Billy!!!

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    Default Proposed Avalon visit to the Hypogeum in Malta 2019

    Very tempting, but the flight alone is 1200$ next April, from Montreal. Transiting in France, it is 10 to 15 hours depending on connections ( Paris not being the most agreable airports).

    I may want to go to Ecuador too. Any takers?

    I always wanted Malta and Tahiti, since a child, though.
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    Default Proposed Avalon visit to the Hypogeum in Malta 2019

    Some examples of accommodation if we all chipped in.

    5 mins walk from the Capital Valletta in Malta.
    https://www.airbnb.co.uk/rooms/10763...-21&s=q8UzvOiL
    £1805 for one week = £180 each a week for 10 persons.
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    Island of Gozo. Sleeps 14. And has a swimming pool
    £2069 for a week = £206 each for the week.

    https://www.airbnb.co.uk/rooms/27891...-21&s=u5fjF41L
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    Malta
    https://www.airbnb.co.uk/rooms/27972...-21&s=ie67uiQM

    Just some samples. To be honest, I prefer my own space. I am a wee bit selfish that way.
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    I have been to Malta some years back.
    Lovely place with friendly people--most speak English..
    I would recommend a visit

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    I lived in Malta for a few years, it is a wonderful island, as is Gozo. Packed to the brim with history, from the ancient to the modern. I would very much recommend it to anyone who loves intrigue and history and or the history of intrigue! The language is a mix of Arabic, French and English, people mostly speak English as a second language and for the most part are very welcoming. I hope you have a fantastic time together....x.... N
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    Default Proposed Avalon visit to the Hypogeum in Malta 2019

    When do you think a period can be fixed Billy? Maybe best to see when all 9 or 11 can come?
    I found another nice place to stay in Malta, for those interested:

    https://www.airbnb.be/rooms/24192541...-13&s=E7pXdTT9

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    Hi all, I'm very keen to join you on this exploration, and to meet fellow Avalonians too. Skint right now, but can raise funds when neater the time. Please keep me in the loop as to when a date is agreed on.
    Love to all.

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    Hi Billy I'd like to go

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    So to date we have 12 interested

    I traveled on August 24th and stayed 3 weeks, 2 weeks in Sliema Malta and 1 week in Xlendi Gozo. And returned on September 15th.

    I think September off season is a good time to go weather wise. June - August is very hot, plus it is school holidays. Earlier than June is to soon for me financially. Does next September 2019 suit everyone interested ? Or do we wait till 2020 ? 2019 is better for me as I may be going back to India in 2020. That gives us a year to save. Both accommodations I booked 9 months in advance. But only had to pay a deposit and the final payment was paid the week before I was due to arrive.

    Sliema was a great place to stay. A good bus service. Plus a 5 minutes ferry crossing to the beautiful medieval Capital city Valleta. 90cents return for over 60s, €1.80 return for under 59s. You basically had to go to the main bus station in Valletta to catch the buses to the Hypogeum and other sites. I would consider staying near or in Valletta for the convenience of travel to other parts of Malta.

    My thoughts are that we all book the Hypogeum separately on the same day after we have chosen the date and time of tour. ASAP
    That would be the first commitment.

    What are your thoughts ?
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    Hi Billy, September next year sounds grand to me. I'm happy to go along with whatever dates are best for the group as a whole. My partner may be interested too, so that would be one extra.

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    And yeah, it seems a good idea for us all to book seperately for the tour, once we've agreed dates etc.

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    September 2019 sounds good

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    Two so far say September 2019 is fine, Thank you Ben and Leavesoftrees.
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    I can dream, can't I?!

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    September 2019 can work for me and my friend too. I would prefer towards the end of the month though.

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