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    Hi Bill

    Question: given what has transpired over the last couple of years do you believe or feel that you are in the right place and at the right time as in Ecuador?

    Is Ecuador a good place to ride out the oncoming storm?

    If not is there a place/country/continent that'd you rather be at this moment of time?

    There's many groups/families/individuals relocating to the South American countries from what I have noticed over the last few months.

    Appreciate your view/thoughts.
    Given what has transpired over the last couple of years do you believe or feel that you are in the right place and at the right time as in Ecuador?

    Yes, I'm very thankful I'm here. None of us can be sure what may transpire in the next few years, anywhere in the world, but right now I see no problems at all where I am.

    Everything is 100% normal: 2% inflation, no shortages of anything, plenty of high quality bulk food of all kinds readily available, fruit and veg in roadside markets everywhere, gasoline/petrol prices fixed nationwide at $2.40/gallon (£0.52/liter).

    My last monthly electricity bill was $12.66. I have a little portable backup generator, just in case, but in 3 years I've never had to use it and I just start it up for 5 minutes a month to keep it in good shape.

    Gas for cooking and hot water is $1.20/month. I pay voluntary health insurance at $75/month which qualifies me for 100% free hospital treatment for anything at all should I ever need it. (I did have appendicitis once a few years ago. I drove myself to the hospital at midnight and was discharged 36 hours later having been treated impeccably, quickly and expertly, the equivalent of anywhere else in the world, or maybe better. It never cost me a thing.)

    I have an ancient but reliable Isuzu Trooper 4x4 (400,000 km, 250,000 miles) that's kept strong and functional by an excellent and super-friendly English-speaking local mechanic who charges me $5/hour for servicing. I live year round with the doors and windows open, and there are no mosquitoes or anything at all that bites. There are no chemtrails, and yesterday I went on a high wild hike for a few hours with my dog up to 14,000 ft in the local mountains which are easy to get to from here.

    For me, all this feels close to ideal. I'm never ever lonely, entirely self-sufficient in my own company, but I do spend almost all of my time alone — the one thing I'd quite like to change somehow if I had a genie who could magically grant me a wish. .

    Is Ecuador a good place to ride out the oncoming storm?

    In my opinion, and based on everything I believe I can see all around me, yes. I do have to say, I'm mighty glad I'm not in the US, Canada, the UK, anywhere in Europe, or Aus/NZ.
    My second choice (a very theoretical one, in some alternative universe!) would probably be Thailand.
    As a PS to this, I took some photos of the bulk grains, flours and herbs available here at really low prices. There's wholewheat flour, brown rice flour, barley flour, pea flour, lentil flour, almond flour, hazelnut flour, maize flour, oat flour, coconut flour, quinoa flour, rye flour, sesame flour, maca flour, and a bunch of other flours I'd never even heard of before.

    Other sacks contain all kinds of herbs and spices, sea salt crystals, nuts and beans, chia, linseed, teas, and pasta of all shapes and sizes: altogether quite an Aladdin's Cave of superfoods.










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    This maybe a question not for here, but I can’t think of a better place to tentatively ask.
    Without crossing lines or breaching privacy… Does anyone know if Mashika is OK?
    I thought perhaps you as main guide & leader of this forum may know something.

    When you have a member on a forum with a strong voice, who comes across as both intelligent & astute in affairs that as a “Westerner” I simply don’t receive from the media… well… when that voice suddenly disappears due to stated health problems, we miss that voice and are also concerned about her.
    I’m sure many of us are wondering & hoping that Mashika is ok.
    That's so very good of you to share your concern.

    For anyone who may not be aware, this is what Mashika has posted about her current health issue: (she's in hospital with an undiagnosed major problem)
    As an update to this, we've not heard a thing from Mashika for 10 days now. The mods are concerned. Emails are unanswered, and there's nothing we can do except hope that she's okay and somehow receiving good care.


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    I continue to also wonder where Matthew is...does anyone have any news about him?

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    Quote Posted by wondering (here)
    I continue to also wonder where Matthew is...does anyone have any news about him?
    Matthew's last post was on June 16, 2022. It may or may not explain why he's gone fishin' for a bit.


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    Default Re: Bill Ryan's personal Question-and-Answer thread. Pile it on. :)

    Quote Posted by wondering (here)
    I continue to also wonder where Matthew is...does anyone have any news about him?
    Maybe we should make a new separate (private) Project Avalon Forum thread where all (active) P.A. members can share their alternative contact options like:
    • Facebook, twitter, instagram, email, truthsocial, rumble, bitchute, telegram, locals, odysee, gettr etc. etc.
    If the majority of >> active << P.A. members offers this alternative option to contact it may prevent unnecessary worrying or wasting time searching for answers for most cases ... but not all ... what can/should we do if some one is really missing .... suggestions?

    cheers,
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    <--! update !--:>

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    No need to follow anyone, only consider broadening (y)our horizon of possibilities ...

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    we've not heard a thing from Mashika for 10 days now. The mods are concerned. Emails are unanswered, and there's nothing we can do except hope that she's okay and somehow receiving good care.
    I sent her a PM in Russian 2 days ago, no reply , was interested to learn anything from her.
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    Quote Posted by 7he5ource (here)
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    we've not heard a thing from Mashika for 10 days now. The mods are concerned. Emails are unanswered, and there's nothing we can do except hope that she's okay and somehow receiving good care.
    I sent her a PM in Russian 2 days ago, no reply , was interested to learn anything from her.

    Hi!, Still alive! Just passing by to say hi and please don't worry, i may not be able to be around for some time but i'm ok, i just can't go online


    I'm sorry to disappoint some people lmao, but i'm not going down that easy. lmfao
    Tired

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    Quote Posted by Mashika (here)


    Hi!, Still alive! Just passing by to say hi and please don't worry, i may not be able to be around for some time but i'm ok, i just can't go online


    I'm sorry to disappoint some people lmao, but i'm not going down that easy. lmfao
    Hey we’re not disappointed, our prayers have been answered! ~8D

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    Quote Posted by Mashika (here)
    Quote Posted by 7he5ource (here)
    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    we've not heard a thing from Mashika for 10 days now. The mods are concerned. Emails are unanswered, and there's nothing we can do except hope that she's okay and somehow receiving good care.
    I sent her a PM in Russian 2 days ago, no reply , was interested to learn anything from her.

    Hi!, Still alive! Just passing by to say hi and please don't worry, i may not be able to be around for some time but i'm ok, i just can't go online


    I'm sorry to disappoint some people lmao, but i'm not going down that easy. lmfao
    Great news that you are standing on top of the dirt. Let's keep it that way!


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    Hi Bill I was contemplating last night that I haven't seen a proper night sky in years. I used to live in a rural part of Slovakia and remember I'd go outside lay on the grass and just view the stars. I really miss that.

    What are the night sky's like in your location?

    Do you take photos? If so please post some here if you have a chance.

    Thanks
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    Hi Bill I was contemplating last night that I haven't seen a proper night sky in years. I used to live in a rural part of Slovakia and remember I'd go outside lay on the grass and just view the stars. I really miss that.

    What are the night sky's like in your location?

    Do you take photos? If so please post some here if you have a chance.

    Thanks
    When it's not cloudy, I've never seen so many stars in all my life. It's the high altitude (and the thin, clear air, with no chemtrails here) that makes the difference.

    When I camp up high (13,000 ft / 4000 meters or more), I always sleep outside my tent. (My tent is always sitting there in case the weather breaks.) There are billions of stars. Maybe trillions.

    Once, I watched a bright fireball go from horizon to horizon slower than any meteor but much faster than any aircraft or satellite... I don't know what it was, but I was sure it had to be something artificial.

    Sadly, I don't have a good enough camera to take a photo, but if I did it'd be spectacular.

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    Quote Posted by loungelizard (here)
    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

    Well, he's the new leader of the Free World.
    I’d be genuinely interested to hear more about your thoughts regarding this, Bill: I'm no expert, but I've had many interesting conversations with members of our extended family who are Russian, and I just can’t reconcile the statement that Putin is the leader of “the free world” (not too sure what that phrase means these days) with the seemingly constant erosion of human rights and civil liberties in the Russian Federation.

    Here are just a few of my concerns - apologies for the lengthy list!

    Freedom House rates freedom in Russia at 19/100, with political rights at 5/40 and civil liberties at 16/40 (methodology is here https://freedomhouse.org/reports/fre...ch-methodology)
    https://freedomhouse.org/country/rus...dom-world/2022)

    The section on Russia in the Human Rights Watch World Report on human rights around the globe in 2022 makes difficult reading:
    https://www.hrw.org/world-report/202...hapters/russia

    Suppression of dissent
    Independent, free voices have been silenced. There is no political opposition any more in Russia: the main opposition activist, Aleksei Navalny, along with many other political activists, are either under house arrest, locked up in psychiatric institutions or imprisoned, or have fled the country. Others, such as Salman Tepsurkayev, have been “disappeared”.
    Human rights defenders (including journalists, historians and scientists) are incarcerated as political prisoners. As of 2020, it’s believed that there are at least 380 political prisoners held in Russia https://amrusrights.wordpress.com/20...ers-directory/
    Look at the political figures who have spoken against him - many of them have been imprisoned or placed under house arrest - or have had to leave Russia completely in order to be safe.
    Dmitry Demushkin Mikhail Kasyanov Yulia Galyamina Kira Yarmysh Pyotr Verzilov, Pussy Riot …

    Human Rights Watch Europe and Central Asia director sums up the crackdown on dissent as, “The Kremlin’s attack on civil society is vicious and cynical and has gone as far as accusing the country’s leading human rights group of violating key human rights treaties and designating peaceful political opposition and anti-corruption groups as “extremist.”

    Media Freedom
    Russia ranks 147th (out of 168) in terms of media freedom https://web.archive.org/web/20090306...d_rubrique=639

    Laws relating to 'foreign agents’ and ‘undesirable organisations’ are used to suppress freedom of expression, and have silenced media, journalists and activists.
    There are no longer any independent media outlets in Russia: everyone has to follow the Kremlin narrative or risk fines, arrest and imprisonment (and several journalists have met with ‘accidents’).
    As I’m sure you know, there is now a law that effectively criminalises any public opposition to or independent news reporting about the war in Ukraine (even using the word ‘war’ is a crime).

    The Right to Protest

    The freedom to protest peacefully has been completely eroded: it’s almost impossible for protesters to exercise their right to freedom of peaceful assembly or protest, especially since the new law introduced in 2004. As an example,16,000 Russians who protested peacefully against the invasion of Ukraine were detained.
    This is a report from last year by Amnesty regarding the freedom of peaceful assemble https://www.amnesty.org/en/documents...m_term=english

    Nine out of the 13 major legislative amendments that have been used to curtail the right to freedom of peaceful assembly in Russia have been introduced since 2014, as part of a crackdown on anti-government protests and human rights guaranteed by the international human rights law and Russia’s own Constitution.

    Surveillance
    Online activity is tightly controlled by the state : VPNs and anonymises are restricted and I believe that Russian authorities have blocked 2,384 websites just this year.
    Roskomnadzor, Russia’s internet and media censor, is used as a surveillance machine to keep everyone under state control and identify critics for the security agencies (see the leaked documents from DDoSecrets https://ddosecrets.com/wiki/Roskomnadzor). Using the SORM-1, SORM-2 and SORM-3 programmes, it compiles dossiers on individuals and organizations posting regime-critical content, monitoring and storing the browsing history, phone calls, emails and texts of individuals.

    Russia’s parliament also voted to allow people’s biometric data to be gathered from banks and stored on a database https://tass.ru/obschestvo/15130639?...errer=banki.ru

    There is state-sanctioned unregulated use of facial/silhouette recognition that has already facilitated the authorities’ targeting of political opponents. In April 2020, the Russian parliament adopted a law “On Experimenting with Artificial Intelligence,” allowing Moscow authorities to test new technology, including facial recognition, free of any legislation restrictions.
    The use of this technology curtails the freedom of expression and association of people in Russia.
    https://www.hrw.org/news/2021/09/15/...ermines-rights

    NGOs
    Laws made in 2006 regarding the operation of NGOs have effectively shut down any voluntary organisation that isn’t controlled by the government and subordinate to the state.
    This is a report from the not-for-profit legal group ICNL on the laws regarding NGOs in Russia:
    https://www.icnl.org/resources/resea...gn-legislation
    The conclusion states: ‘The Russian NGO Law is unconstitutional and violates domestic, international, and foreign law.’

    Memorial was an amazing human rights NGO founded in 1989. It ceased to exist in Russia earlier this year, having been liquidated by a court decision.
    https://www.memo.ru/en-us/

    Judiciary/Penal System
    There is little chance of a fair trial in Russia: not only is there corruption in the judicial and penal systems, but the government controls the judiciary, and as a result, it is politicised. Torture and ill-treatment in prison and other penal institutions are well documented: are you familiar with the group Gulagu, run by the human rights activist, Vladimir Valeryevich Osechkin? They have been documenting corruption and Torture in Russia, with the help of more than 19,000 independent human rights defenders, volunteers and participants over the past 10 years. I really recommend looking at their site if you want to learn about the penitentiary services and law enforcement in Russia https://gulagu.net/about_us Warning - there is a lot of very disturbing material on there.

    Corruption
    Russia ranks 136 out of 180 countries with regard to corruption https://www.transparency.org/en/cpi/2021 Corruption is endemic and runs through all areas of life. Several lawyers and journalists who were investigating state authority crime have been assassinated.

    I'm not picking a fight here.
    I just can't see Putin as a leader of a 'free world'.
    Maybe you could persuade me
    Many thanks. And yes, no 'fight' at all.

    I genuinely appreciate the opportunity, as I've been kind of waiting for people to ask me direct questions.

    So I've copied this from the WW3/Ukraine thread to here as my answer is likely to go beyond Ukraine and Russia, and is more about the future of the planet and all of humanity. I've been thinking about this quite a lot recently — and the more I think, the bigger it all gets.

    Here are just some of the bulletpoints:
    • I've written quite a few times over the last few years — about Donald Trump — that it wasn't about who he is, but about who he's NOT. He's not a neocon, or a neoliberal, or a globalist, or a WEF member, and he certainly isn't Joe Biden or (far worse) Hillary Clinton. That all counts for a lot.
    • Exactly the same applies with Putin. He's none of those things either. Whatever his faults may be, he's measured, moderate, well-informed, cautious, and (see his recent speech at the Valdai International Discussion Club posted here in full) fiercely and sincerely critical of western, globalist, unipolar, neocolonialist agendas.
    • The President of the African Union, Macky Sall, said in June [my paraphrase, but I'd like to find his exact quote] that following his warm and friendly discussions with Putin he felt it was the first time the African people had been listened to and respected as equals. That was a huge, huge thing that should have put the North Americans and Europeans on notice.
    • Even now, Putin is seeking ways to get grain to the 'global south' (principally Africa) at low or zero cost. Whatever his motives may be, the Africans sincerely appreciate that, as (like the Europeans) they too are suffering as a result of the backlash from the sanctions war.
    • Putin stands against the American quasi-totalitarian quest for a US-dominated unipolar world. He's stated numerous times now on formal record that he values the right of each nation to be sovereign and to determine its own cultural norms and standards uninfluenced by others.
    • But there's more to all this. As most reading this will be aware, Putin, having taken almost no action at all since the Minsk accord was unsupported, violated, and broadly ignored since Sept 2014, eventually found himself in a position where he had no alternative but to order (or approve) the Special Military Operation/SMO in February 2022, principally to stave off what would have been a significant, forceful incursion of tens of thousands of Ukrainian troops into Donbass. The SMO was principally a defensive action. It was Ukraine, in turn pushed by the US, that was the aggressor. (A detailed and accurate history of Ukraine since 2013-2014 is beyond the scope of this post. Some might want to see Mashika's important thread, started in June 2021: Ukraine is a Nazi state, don't fall for the lie.)
    • So — the US (supported by the EU/UK) is determined to bring down Russia by any means. What's baffling to many is summarized in all the points that follow.
    • Most reading this will know and agree that that attempt to bring down Russia is failing totally. The ruble is strong, Russia's economy is doing well, Russia has more than plenty of oil, gas, grain and minerals (which other nations do not), and Putin has strong internal support.
    • Moreover, Putin is also gaining strong support from a large number of non-US/EU/UK countries such as China, India, Brazil, Saudi Arabia, Iran, Turkey, Belarus, Asian CIS states such as Kazakhstan, and all of Africa. In terms of a proportion of global population, that's about 70-80% of the world.
    • The US/EU/UK is in a significant backed-into-a-corner minority. Yet they maintain their own increasingly aggressive, and increasingly self-destructive policies.
    • Many alt media analysts believe all this is due to ignorance, arrogance, and/or incompetence on behalf of western leaders. Not that many go as far as to assert this all has to be deliberate, because it's hard to understand a rationale. Even if this was about the WEF 'Great Reset', with the multipolar world that is being advocated by Russia, China, India et al, there'd be no agreement or consent to that — not on the WEF's terms.
    • A few (such as David DuByne and Ben Davidson) has suggested that this is all about a suppressed foreknowledge that there's some kind of major calamity on its way that will affect all of humanity whatever we do. On my thread From Bill Ryan -- the Ultimate Hypothesis, started in 2012, I present circumstantial evidence, thin but very interesting, that a small select group of humans are planning to evacuate from the planet. This is allied to (and predates) Richard Dolan's thesis of a 'Breakaway Civilization'.
    • The 'Breakaway Civilization' notion is compelllng. Catherine Austin Fitts (see the thread Catherine Austin Fitts: all things Fitts) has argued persuasively that tens of trillions of dollars of US funds have gone missing and have been taken (or invested) off-planet. This is, of course, the so-called Secret Space Program, which I am certain is 100% real. To argue the case for this is also beyond the scope of this summary, but I have posted in considerable detail about this on many forum threads. (Secret Space Program Credibility is just one of them, another being From Bill Ryan -- the Ultimate Hypothesis.)
    • So there's a real disconnect here. The US is in social chaos and disarray, infrastructure is crumbling, inflation is rising, energy is in short supply, yet on Wade Frazier's thread WADE FRAZIER : A Healed Planet Wade has stated many times, in great detail, how he knows with certainty that highly classified Free Energy devices are real, working, practicable, and inexpensive. (Dr Steven Greer agrees, and so do I.)
    • Meanwhile, Chris Martenson, one of the brightest minds one might ever wish to pay attention to, argues with urgency that global GDP is all inextricably bound to energy availability (there's an extremely close, undeniable correlation) and the latter is about to come to a crunching halt. And many have pointed out, self included, that there is serious risk now of major, widespread global famine. (Michael Yon is one of the voices to listen to carefully, in particular in a September 2022 interview posted here.)
    • So it still DOES look like to me that one of the things that could be happening — and soon after this point I'll pause this long complicated post — is a planned downsizing of Planet Earth (the covid vaxx project may well be connected with this as well, of course), because the planet's carrying capacity (not linked to living space, but to tightly constrained food, energy and other natural resources) has been reached.

      To conclude:
    • So a small group of humans ('small' = maybe several thousand people picked for their genetics, ability, skills and wealth) may be about to leave the planet, maybe even to another star system (not a joke: Lockheed Skunk Works CEO Ben Rich stated unambiguously, 30 years ago, that this was now possible) — leaving Planet Earth to heal itself with a much reduced human population, maybe with only the strong and able having survived a series of calamities both natural and man-made, possibly including a major global war as well as famine.
    • Most reading this will be aware that it seems that the US is trying to start such a global war in any way that it can. And looping back to Putin, I'd bet everything I own and more that (a) if this large-scale classified plan is an actual one, and (b) if he's aware of it, he does not support it.
    • In return, that earns him my own full support for all his clearly and articulately stated stances on global affairs and his own vision for a "Fair" World Order (which most of the world's nations quietly but fully agree with).
    • It has to be possible that ALL these options could come about: a multipolar world order, a significantly reduced population, enough resources and food to go around, and a small group of humans having left the planet to colonize elsewhere, rather like the Pilgrims on the Mayflower. (Or maybe, the Vikings that preceded them!)
    • And as a final thought, the pathological desire to destroy all they can before some of them leave may be rather like a disturbed and vindictive family trashing their rented house.... before they move to a new home.
    I understand that there are many unanswered questions here still, and the actual truth may be a variant on (or only a small part of!) all the above. There's much more to say, but I'll pause now and let readers absorb the above thesis for a short while.

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    Well, I agree with you Bill.
    Before pointing the finger at Putin's Russia, which I am sure has many issues just like all countries do, I think we should take a hard look at our own social and political systems. Australia is a good example of what people seem to think is modern 'democracy'. There is little freedom of expression here- people get silenced, ridiculed or shut down all the time; the totally controlled media blares war, hate and violence constantly; people fear for survival and do not protest the militarisation of the police or the ridiculous 'emergency' powers which seem permanent and are quite draconian; the political system offers no real alternatives, politicians pay only lip service to voters in meaningless elections, and are basically puppets of the corporates and the global elites.... I could go on. This is not a democracy and feels increasingly like a sort of prison.

    Putin has quite politely suggested that we all take a look at ourselves before trying to continue forcing other countries to join and be ruled by the not so free world. His observations about us are pointed and worthy of serious consideration rather than deliberate mis-representation along with vilification of Putin himself.

    Thoughts about a couple of your comments Bill:
    - the global food shortages have clearly been manufactured by putting many businesses and especially farmers out of business using the pandemic op. There is no reason I can see why the world population should be unsustainable if countries worked together to ensure access to food supplies and supported production and transportation instead of ruining it.
    - I do think there is a secret space program also, or perhaps a vast underground civiilisation being built, or both. But why would a small group of elite go to all this trouble to try to impose the unipolar model on the planet, only to leave it? I am inclined to think the elite wish to reduce populations and intimidate the survivors to deepen their power and control here on planet. A grim scenario but perhaps one that is necessary in order to wake people up to reality and to the remaining choices they may have.

    In the bigger picture, Putin is the only modern, surviving major leader who is offering a critique of the globalist agenda and a different vision for the global population. It could not be more important at this time IMO.

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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    On my thread From Bill Ryan -- the Ultimate Hypothesis, started in 2012, I present circumstantial evidence, thin but very interesting, that a small select group of humans are planning to evacuate from the planet. This is allied to (and predates) Richard Dolan's thesis of a 'Breakaway Civilization'.
    • The 'Breakaway Civilization' notion is compelllng. Catherine Austin Fitts (see the thread Catherine Austin Fitts: all things Fitts) has argued persuasively that tens of trillions of dollars of US funds have gone missing and have been taken (or invested) off-planet. This is, of course, the so-called Secret Space Program, which I am certain is 100% real. To argue the case for this is also beyond the scope of this summary, but I have posted in considerable detail about this on many forum threads. (Secret Space Program Credibility is just one of them, another being From Bill Ryan -- the Ultimate Hypothesis.)
    While I have by no means read all the material on this subject, here are my two cents. Breakaway civilizations are all well and good, but they pose a huge logistical problem which I do not see being covered in the accounts given. They basically imply that we see top elitists performing like astronauts. When you see them needing a valet to squeeze their toothpaste or a bunch of underage sex slaves to service them, you have to scale this up to every aspect of comfortable living, and you end up with the 1% relying very heavily, if not on the entire 99% at least on a huge army of supporting workers. Not only does the elite have an unbelievably excessive need in terms of personnel, the same goes for space and every other earth-based commodity and creature comfort. To go from multiple castles and palaces to some underground bunker on Earth, or on Mars, possibly after a long period in the inevitably cramped quarters of a spaceship, is a very big ask. What I am saying is, these people do not have the pioneering fibre.


    You may say the preparations have been going on for quite some time, but that doesn’t alter the fact that you are transporting some kind of royalty, with everything that entails. Such people do not lead from the front. It is a very different story from the one imagined in Kim Stanley Robinson’s Mars Trilogy, in which an initial expedition of 100 hardy engineers and technicians capable of dealing with any eventuality evolves over 150 years – literally growing as a family populating the planet – into something that begins to resemble a stable colony, somewhat on the lines of the colonization of America, and politically just as messy. What happens is that government is left behind on earth (England), losing power, realtime influence and ultimately all relevance, leading to much upheaval and final revolution imposing Martian independence.


    What the ‘breakaway civilization’ is supposed to be doing is the exact reverse. The helpless elite would be cutting itself off from everyone and everything it is so reliant upon, and the project is not so much one of repopulation as of depopulation. It cannot survive alone without an army of attendants, servants, maintenance workers, scientists, medics, teachers, a whole society in fact. On the contrary, these are the people who can and did make colonization work. The fictional Mars colonization is therefore plausible for having this precedent where the major ingredient was leaving the elite well behind and out of harm’s way. And the breakaway theory is implausible for turning this logic on its head.


    The more plausible alternative would be to see it as some kind of imperialist expedition to some unsuspecting earth-like planet where the necessary personnel would be already on the spot ready to be enslaved. If so, this places a whole new complexion on the situation, for instead of saying ‘Good riddance, maybe we can sort out Earth when they’ve gone’, the impulse would rather be to say, ‘We cannot let this happen, we need the Earth to self-isolate and deal with this disease without allowing it to spread, even if it kills us all.’ It would make no difference if it were true that this is what happened to this planet. The idea that it is somehow being quarantined suggests that measures are already in place to deal with any breakaway.


    Another factor is the numbers involved. The overprivileged ‘1%’ actually comes to 80 million people, from which a few thousand qualified specialists might be enlisted to launch an expedition of this kind, bringing us back to the expansionist Robinson-type scenario. On the other hand, the catastrophe scenario, whereby the Earth becomes uninhabitable, would appear to require the participation of the ultimate controllers themselves, who may very well be self-selected on the basis of wealth only, and hence so much dead weight. It would depend on relative numbers whether or not this might work. The closer you get to zero the more you would be approaching some kind of satanic force at work rather than a human elite. What distinguishes the two situations would be a human element’s need for self-preservation: it would surely not want to go down with the ship.


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    Quote Posted by araucaria (here)
    While I have by no means read all the material on this subject, here are my two cents. Breakaway civilizations are all well and good, but they pose a huge logistical problem which I do not see being covered in the accounts given. They basically imply that we see top elitists performing like astronauts.
    Well, it might be more advanced than we realize.

    Sean David Morton has described seeing a 1600 foot long shovel-nosed craft coming into land at Area 51, in 1991 or 1992. (See this post.) I believe his account.
    1. That was 30 years ago.
    2. It was the size of an aircraft carrier.
    3. It could have transported thousands of people (and/or a huge amount of equipment and resources), and would have looked like a larger version of this:


    Here's another account. (See this post.) The nephew of a friend of Gordon Novel, hiking on his own in the Utah desert 25 miles from the nearest road back in 2006 or 2007, described seeing a 600 foot long, black arrow-shaped craft coming in to land, hovering, and descending into the desert through an enormous camouflaged sliding door that opened to receive it, and then silently closed again. Gordon Novel himself told Coast to Coast AM's George Knapp, over 10 years ago, that there were 8 such craft in service.

    Ben Rich, who I referenced in my long post just above, stated the following in the early 90s, shortly before he died:



    That strongly suggests that (a) these Star Trek style craft existed 30 years ago, and (b) they can reach (and have reached) other star systems.

    So we're not talking about little Apollo modules here with 3 people in them and the resources to stay alive for 10-12 days. These are large, sophisticated ships that are more like ocean liners. And speculating further, the planets they may have reached could be earth-like and hospitable, not barren and challenging to colonize like the Moon or Mars.

    In summary, it may be far more akin to the journey of the Mayflower (or the Vikings! ) to North America several centuries ago, than (say) Shackleton's or Scott's expeditions to Antarctica. If all this has been in play for 30 years or more, one might only guess how much progress may have been made in that time.

    Finally, below is just one artist's impression of Mars in 2050. That's 30 years from now. It seems a plausible vision, exactly the kind that is being actively and realistically planned now by Elon Musk's SpaceX.



    If a distant planet being colonized was green with a breathable atmosphere, whatever kind of home that could be created there might really be a very pleasant and welcome place to be.

    Of course, there would have to be mining, 3D printing of everything, and many industrial processes, though presumably this project would be powered by Free Energy generators. And many other creatures would already be living there, maybe intelligent ones too. So once again — of course — there are hundreds more unanswered questions.

    But while some of all this is connecting quite widely-spaced dots (which could also be connected in different ways to form differing pictures), my thesis is that this is all maybe not an impossible thing to consider.

    One final note (for now ), an idea which is also rarely discussed.

    In the 200,000+ years in which it seems that anatomically modern humans have existed (and Michael Cremo, as per the thread Michael Cremo: Forbidden Archeology, would argue that this period is actually far longer), there's plenty of time for a Breakaway Civilization to have developed, become space-based, and actually left (as well).

    Think back to our own history: we've become a space-faring civilization in a mere 10,000 years or less. That 10,000 year period of development could be copied-and-pasted into just about any epoch in that 200,000+ year past, and there'd be little or no archeological record of it.

    One answer to the perplexing question of how some of the reported ETs encountered are entirely human-looking is that they might literally be our own ancestors, long since migrated and relocated elsewhere.

    They may be Homo Sapiens Sapiens as well, identical to us in every way apart from their technological advancement, maybe 50,000 years ahead of us. And if so, then just maybe, today's new Breakaway Civilization (Breakaway 2.0, as it were) might be welcomed to a new 'New World' by their very own ancestors. It'd make a great movie.
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    At the risk of sounding tiresome, something which is seldom taken into account in these speculations about colonizing other planets is the 12,000 year solar cycle, which affects not only planet Earth, but this entire region of space.
    There are unprecedented (at least unprecedented in the last 12,000 years ) and unpredictable changes happening in our solar system which may well make the other planets more uninhabitable than was previously supposed.
    And more difficult to calculate what exactly would be required to settle there.
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    Lots of questions yes. And a dearth of answers: let’s find some. The beauty of Kim Stanley Robinson’s blockbuster novel (‘It'd make a great movie.’) is that he takes the myriad things generally known about Mars and systematically answers the question How would humans perform in these circumstances? But here we need to work out the circumstances.


    To summarize: my takeaway from your post, Bill, is that, contrary to all of the usual stuff about the evil deep state and the conspiracy to enslave the human race, this space odyssey business sounds all good, in keeping with the ongoing story of human adventure, like Mallory climbing Everest ‘because it’s there’. Normally speaking, I would have no problem with that... but for the small matter of the missing trillions. As far as I know the likes of Shackleton and Scott did not impoverish the whole world to do their thing. This idea of it all being good is another thing that any plausible account will have to address, which is what I intend to do here.


    Apollo modules’: That’s not what I was suggesting. Astro-nauts navigate among the stars. Pioneers do so at some risk. Earth navigators sail the seas and mountaineers climb mountains not just because they are there, and not just because they have the skills to take such risks, but equally because they are adventurers/risk-takers. The unknown destination ‘might really be a very pleasant and welcome place to be’ – then again it might not. You might send someone on a mission like that, but it takes a special sort to volunteer; certainly, one would not expect world leaders to do so. Even ocean-going liners were a risky business not so long ago: La Bourgogne sank in 1898; La Champagne was accident-prone for thirty years before finally snapping in two in 1917. So the Titanic was no one-off. It was then state-of-the-art as to speed, yet primitive as to radar (none); the primitive won. Its coal-lined hull was strong to begin with, but as the coal was used up it became relatively frail. So geography contributed to the catastrophe: it was in the wrong place at the wrong time, hitting an iceberg on nearly empty. Had it been coming the other way, it might have been OK. But it was racing along, doing something fairly new like an old hand. To be sure, the first class accommodation was fabulous, but playing no more part in the operation of the machine than the proverbial deckchairs, it all sank to the bottom. No conspiracy theory needed.




    Below are some more bullet points.
    Green with a breathable atmosphere’: sounds like Earth only very recently: again, why bother? Plus the question: what’s the great hurry? Why do tens of trillions need to be stolen from the vast majority of earth dwellers in order to seek out a putative home from home? Humanity could go there when it is collectively ready. Meanwhile, why look to Plan(et) B when Plan(et) A is still salvageable? Or if it is not, why not? For an answer, see below.


    we've become a space-faring civilization in a mere 10,000 years or less’. The Wright brothers took off only a hundred odd years ago. The point being, the faster this has happened, the closer we are to pioneering work, the dangerous work of test pilots, not the quick holiday excursion for pennies with Ryanair.


    just maybe, today's new Breakaway Civilization (Breakaway 2.0, as it were) might be welcomed to a new 'New World' by their very own ancestors.’ Well, beyond two or three generations, I find ancestors are just ordinary people like everyone else. I find I am amazed and enchanted to find close contemporaries who are so very different. Most of one’s family are not blood relations anyway. This sounds like a glorified session of looking in the mirror. For an alternative reading, see below.


    It'd make a great movie.’ Well yes, make the movie; but what happened to real life? Alternative answer: someone has usually already made the movie, the question is which one? See below.


    Not forgetting:
    Sean David Morton has described seeing a 1600 foot long shovel-nosed craft coming into land at Area 51, in 1991 or 1992. (See this post.) I believe his account.’ Why would anyone believe Sean David Morton?
    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...=1#post1140870
    Maybe because “Conspiracy theorists are always right,” Morton told the room. https://jezebel.com/sail-far-away-at...ing-1760900554
    This is patently false since conspiracy theories are nearly always disinformation designed to conceal the real stuff. Morton’s dishonesty has been established, so he has no place in a discussion indicating 100% certainty. But at least he doesn’t rob people of money they didn’t know they had and didn’t notice disappearing. This by the way is an aspect of the story that needs explaining. How can a country lose tens of trillions without even noticing? And why steal money when you can just print it?


    And the biggest question, which has already been addressed, remains, What for? The answer, ‘Because it’s there!’ won’t wash. The Moon is there, Mars is there, but they seem pretty dead, and beyond that, you get, What is where??!! Nothing much anywhere.
    Maurice Chatelain wrote that Barney and Betty Hill were credible witnesses because in pointing to Zeta Reticuli, they were predicting something astronomers only found out later: the star is a binary, probably the tightest-knit binary going. He concluded that this would be a good place to produce some early spacefarers. Why? Because the places to explore were known to exist on the cosmic doorstep. This story runs exactly parallel to the Sirius tale among the Dogon, except that Sirius B was known at the time, but there was a correct prediction of Sirius C, and even its type. Sirians would have been similarly motivated to travel, because they had known places to visit. We earthlings have no such obvious destination. So, what is going on?


    Ben Rich: ‘I just can’t tell you what we are doing.’ If this is believable, then everything else he says is garbage. Conversely, if the rest has any value, it would have to mean, ‘This is what we are doing’. Actually, Ben Rich is pretty explicit, much more so than I remembered: ‘The Air Force has just given us a contract to take ET back home.’ So I think we must take that as read. ET came here and couldn’t get back home, not just the little fella in the movie, the entire crew. Such accidents happen to explorers; after all, wasn’t Roswell a crash site? They have been stranded here maybe for eons on a planet that doesn’t suit them at all. They don’t get on with humans, and make matters worse by feeding on them. This might explain why they have preferred to keep a low profile, apart from hurrying up scientific advances to the point of helping humans to build the technology to ‘take ET back home.’ If so, the likeliest candidates are going to be the unpleasantest; it sounds like the reptilians.


    The first thing this explains is the What for/where to? issue. We don’t have a destination, but ET does and has made his home our destination. We don’t have a choice in the matter, but it is all to the good anyway: a perfect win-win situation if we succeed together. Archetypes of a parting of the ways, two Earths, are no longer to be seen in terms of some kind of heaven and hell arrangement, but simply a case of visitors having (involuntarily) outstayed their welcome and finally going home with our help. I can now also answer an earlier question as to why Planet A is currently in great danger: because of this unaffordable destination Planet B. Contrary to standard practice, plan A is failing because of trying to implement plan B. This is back to front from our perspective but not from ET’s. Likewise, the idea of space travel to discover ancestors is a hypothesis for humans, but for ET going home such a family reunion is the whole purpose of the exercise.


    Disclosure might happen before they are gone. The act of embezzling tens of trillions in a manner almost but not quite undetectable would be just the starting-point for what is now hitting the mainstream news in terms of blatant asset-stripping by western governments. ET’s plight has also been rising to human consciousness for some time in the form of the migrant crisis seen in many parts of the world. Of course there are differences. Our human migrants are travelling in life-threatening conditions to wherever because their home is no longer home; so taking them back, which one supposes in most cases would be their real preference, would require restoring that home. This is precisely the sort of healing work that can commence following, not closure per se but following the release of removal off-planet of this hugely disruptive alien presence that was possibly (probably) never truly hostile, except that things just didn’t work out. Healing will inevitably involve some vast truth and reconciliation operation to deal with all those more or less unwilling collaborators and move on to a situation where human values and practices prevail, with the help of the new technology. The ultimate positive will have been the difficult collaboration that led to a solution being found. Humans being very much the junior partner, were never in the driving seat, but have now been brought up to speed and can begin a new era without all the previous constraints. Whatever we think of their table manners, we can at least thank our visitors for that. Thanks for calling on us, pleased to have met you, and nice to see you finally on your way. Have a safe journey home.
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    Default Re: Bill Ryan's personal Question-and-Answer thread. Pile it on. :)

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    Well, he's the new leader of the Free World.
    I’d be genuinely interested to hear more about your thoughts regarding this, Bill: I'm no expert, but I've had many interesting conversations with members of our extended family who are Russian, and I just can’t reconcile the statement that Putin is the leader of “the free world” (not too sure what that phrase means these days) with the seemingly constant erosion of human rights and civil liberties in the Russian Federation.

    Here are just a few of my concerns - apologies for the lengthy list!

    Freedom House rates freedom in Russia at 19/100, with political rights at 5/40 and civil liberties at 16/40 (methodology is here https://freedomhouse.org/reports/fre...ch-methodology)
    https://freedomhouse.org/country/rus...dom-world/2022)

    The section on Russia in the Human Rights Watch World Report on human rights around the globe in 2022 makes difficult reading:
    https://www.hrw.org/world-report/202...hapters/russia

    Suppression of dissent
    Independent, free voices have been silenced. There is no political opposition any more in Russia: the main opposition activist, Aleksei Navalny, along with many other political activists, are either under house arrest, locked up in psychiatric institutions or imprisoned, or have fled the country. Others, such as Salman Tepsurkayev, have been “disappeared”.
    Human rights defenders (including journalists, historians and scientists) are incarcerated as political prisoners. As of 2020, it’s believed that there are at least 380 political prisoners held in Russia https://amrusrights.wordpress.com/20...ers-directory/
    Look at the political figures who have spoken against him - many of them have been imprisoned or placed under house arrest - or have had to leave Russia completely in order to be safe.
    Dmitry Demushkin Mikhail Kasyanov Yulia Galyamina Kira Yarmysh Pyotr Verzilov, Pussy Riot …

    Human Rights Watch Europe and Central Asia director sums up the crackdown on dissent as, “The Kremlin’s attack on civil society is vicious and cynical and has gone as far as accusing the country’s leading human rights group of violating key human rights treaties and designating peaceful political opposition and anti-corruption groups as “extremist.”

    Media Freedom
    Russia ranks 147th (out of 168) in terms of media freedom https://web.archive.org/web/20090306...d_rubrique=639

    Laws relating to 'foreign agents’ and ‘undesirable organisations’ are used to suppress freedom of expression, and have silenced media, journalists and activists.
    There are no longer any independent media outlets in Russia: everyone has to follow the Kremlin narrative or risk fines, arrest and imprisonment (and several journalists have met with ‘accidents’).
    As I’m sure you know, there is now a law that effectively criminalises any public opposition to or independent news reporting about the war in Ukraine (even using the word ‘war’ is a crime).

    The Right to Protest

    The freedom to protest peacefully has been completely eroded: it’s almost impossible for protesters to exercise their right to freedom of peaceful assembly or protest, especially since the new law introduced in 2004. As an example,16,000 Russians who protested peacefully against the invasion of Ukraine were detained.
    This is a report from last year by Amnesty regarding the freedom of peaceful assemble https://www.amnesty.org/en/documents...m_term=english

    Nine out of the 13 major legislative amendments that have been used to curtail the right to freedom of peaceful assembly in Russia have been introduced since 2014, as part of a crackdown on anti-government protests and human rights guaranteed by the international human rights law and Russia’s own Constitution.

    Surveillance
    Online activity is tightly controlled by the state : VPNs and anonymises are restricted and I believe that Russian authorities have blocked 2,384 websites just this year.
    Roskomnadzor, Russia’s internet and media censor, is used as a surveillance machine to keep everyone under state control and identify critics for the security agencies (see the leaked documents from DDoSecrets https://ddosecrets.com/wiki/Roskomnadzor). Using the SORM-1, SORM-2 and SORM-3 programmes, it compiles dossiers on individuals and organizations posting regime-critical content, monitoring and storing the browsing history, phone calls, emails and texts of individuals.

    Russia’s parliament also voted to allow people’s biometric data to be gathered from banks and stored on a database https://tass.ru/obschestvo/15130639?...errer=banki.ru

    There is state-sanctioned unregulated use of facial/silhouette recognition that has already facilitated the authorities’ targeting of political opponents. In April 2020, the Russian parliament adopted a law “On Experimenting with Artificial Intelligence,” allowing Moscow authorities to test new technology, including facial recognition, free of any legislation restrictions.
    The use of this technology curtails the freedom of expression and association of people in Russia.
    https://www.hrw.org/news/2021/09/15/...ermines-rights

    NGOs
    Laws made in 2006 regarding the operation of NGOs have effectively shut down any voluntary organisation that isn’t controlled by the government and subordinate to the state.
    This is a report from the not-for-profit legal group ICNL on the laws regarding NGOs in Russia:
    https://www.icnl.org/resources/resea...gn-legislation
    The conclusion states: ‘The Russian NGO Law is unconstitutional and violates domestic, international, and foreign law.’

    Memorial was an amazing human rights NGO founded in 1989. It ceased to exist in Russia earlier this year, having been liquidated by a court decision.
    https://www.memo.ru/en-us/

    Judiciary/Penal System
    There is little chance of a fair trial in Russia: not only is there corruption in the judicial and penal systems, but the government controls the judiciary, and as a result, it is politicised. Torture and ill-treatment in prison and other penal institutions are well documented: are you familiar with the group Gulagu, run by the human rights activist, Vladimir Valeryevich Osechkin? They have been documenting corruption and Torture in Russia, with the help of more than 19,000 independent human rights defenders, volunteers and participants over the past 10 years. I really recommend looking at their site if you want to learn about the penitentiary services and law enforcement in Russia https://gulagu.net/about_us Warning - there is a lot of very disturbing material on there.

    Corruption
    Russia ranks 136 out of 180 countries with regard to corruption https://www.transparency.org/en/cpi/2021 Corruption is endemic and runs through all areas of life. Several lawyers and journalists who were investigating state authority crime have been assassinated.

    I'm not picking a fight here.
    I just can't see Putin as a leader of a 'free world'.
    Maybe you could persuade me
    Many thanks. And yes, no 'fight' at all.

    I genuinely appreciate the opportunity, as I've been kind of waiting for people to ask me direct questions.

    So I've copied this from the WW3/Ukraine thread to here as my answer is likely to go beyond Ukraine and Russia, and is more about the future of the planet and all of humanity. I've been thinking about this quite a lot recently — and the more I think, the bigger it all gets.

    Here are just some of the bulletpoints:
    • I've written quite a few times over the last few years — about Donald Trump — that it wasn't about who he is, but about who he's NOT. He's not a neocon, or a neoliberal, or a globalist, or a WEF member, and he certainly isn't Joe Biden or (far worse) Hillary Clinton. That all counts for a lot.
    • Exactly the same applies with Putin. He's none of those things either. Whatever his faults may be, he's measured, moderate, well-informed, cautious, and (see his recent speech at the Valdai International Discussion Club posted here in full) fiercely and sincerely critical of western, globalist, unipolar, neocolonialist agendas.
    • The President of the African Union, Macky Sall, said in June [my paraphrase, but I'd like to find his exact quote] that following his warm and friendly discussions with Putin he felt it was the first time the African people had been listened to and respected as equals. That was a huge, huge thing that should have put the North Americans and Europeans on notice.
    • Even now, Putin is seeking ways to get grain to the 'global south' (principally Africa) at low or zero cost. Whatever his motives may be, the Africans sincerely appreciate that, as (like the Europeans) they too are suffering as a result of the backlash from the sanctions war.
    • Putin stands against the American quasi-totalitarian quest for a US-dominated unipolar world. He's stated numerous times now on formal record that he values the right of each nation to be sovereign and to determine its own cultural norms and standards uninfluenced by others.
    • But there's more to all this. As most reading this will be aware, Putin, having taken almost no action at all since the Minsk accord was unsupported, violated, and broadly ignored since Sept 2014, eventually found himself in a position where he had no alternative but to order (or approve) the Special Military Operation/SMO in February 2022, principally to stave off what would have been a significant, forceful incursion of tens of thousands of Ukrainian troops into Donbass. The SMO was principally a defensive action. It was Ukraine, in turn pushed by the US, that was the aggressor. (A detailed and accurate history of Ukraine since 2013-2014 is beyond the scope of this post. Some might want to see Mashika's important thread, started in June 2021: Ukraine is a Nazi state, don't fall for the lie.)
    • So — the US (supported by the EU/UK) is determined to bring down Russia by any means. What's baffling to many is summarized in all the points that follow.
    • Most reading this will know and agree that that attempt to bring down Russia is failing totally. The ruble is strong, Russia's economy is doing well, Russia has more than plenty of oil, gas, grain and minerals (which other nations do not), and Putin has strong internal support.
    • Moreover, Putin is also gaining strong support from a large number of non-US/EU/UK countries such as China, India, Brazil, Saudi Arabia, Iran, Turkey, Belarus, Asian CIS states such as Kazakhstan, and all of Africa. In terms of a proportion of global population, that's about 70-80% of the world.
    • The US/EU/UK is in a significant backed-into-a-corner minority. Yet they maintain their own increasingly aggressive, and increasingly self-destructive policies.
    • Many alt media analysts believe all this is due to ignorance, arrogance, and/or incompetence on behalf of western leaders. Not that many go as far as to assert this all has to be deliberate, because it's hard to understand a rationale. Even if this was about the WEF 'Great Reset', with the multipolar world that is being advocated by Russia, China, India et al, there'd be no agreement or consent to that — not on the WEF's terms.
    • A few (such as David DuByne and Ben Davidson) has suggested that this is all about a suppressed foreknowledge that there's some kind of major calamity on its way that will affect all of humanity whatever we do. On my thread From Bill Ryan -- the Ultimate Hypothesis, started in 2012, I present circumstantial evidence, thin but very interesting, that a small select group of humans are planning to evacuate from the planet. This is allied to (and predates) Richard Dolan's thesis of a 'Breakaway Civilization'.
    • The 'Breakaway Civilization' notion is compelllng. Catherine Austin Fitts (see the thread Catherine Austin Fitts: all things Fitts) has argued persuasively that tens of trillions of dollars of US funds have gone missing and have been taken (or invested) off-planet. This is, of course, the so-called Secret Space Program, which I am certain is 100% real. To argue the case for this is also beyond the scope of this summary, but I have posted in considerable detail about this on many forum threads. (Secret Space Program Credibility is just one of them, another being From Bill Ryan -- the Ultimate Hypothesis.)
    • So there's a real disconnect here. The US is in social chaos and disarray, infrastructure is crumbling, inflation is rising, energy is in short supply, yet on Wade Frazier's thread WADE FRAZIER : A Healed Planet Wade has stated many times, in great detail, how he knows with certainty that highly classified Free Energy devices are real, working, practicable, and inexpensive. (Dr Steven Greer agrees, and so do I.)
    • Meanwhile, Chris Martenson, one of the brightest minds one might ever wish to pay attention to, argues with urgency that global GDP is all inextricably bound to energy availability (there's an extremely close, undeniable correlation) and the latter is about to come to a crunching halt. And many have pointed out, self included, that there is serious risk now of major, widespread global famine. (Michael Yon is one of the voices to listen to carefully, in particular in a September 2022 interview posted here.)
    • So it still DOES look like to me that one of the things that could be happening — and soon after this point I'll pause this long complicated post — is a planned downsizing of Planet Earth (the covid vaxx project may well be connected with this as well, of course), because the planet's carrying capacity (not linked to living space, but to tightly constrained food, energy and other natural resources) has been reached.

      To conclude:
    • So a small group of humans ('small' = maybe several thousand people picked for their genetics, ability, skills and wealth) may be about to leave the planet, maybe even to another star system (not a joke: Lockheed Skunk Works CEO Ben Rich stated unambiguously, 30 years ago, that this was now possible) — leaving Planet Earth to heal itself with a much reduced human population, maybe with only the strong and able having survived a series of calamities both natural and man-made, possibly including a major global war as well as famine.
    • Most reading this will be aware that it seems that the US is trying to start such a global war in any way that it can. And looping back to Putin, I'd bet everything I own and more that (a) if this large-scale classified plan is an actual one, and (b) if he's aware of it, he does not support it.
    • In return, that earns him my own full support for all his clearly and articulately stated stances on global affairs and his own vision for a "Fair" World Order (which most of the world's nations quietly but fully agree with).
    • It has to be possible that ALL these options could come about: a multipolar world order, a significantly reduced population, enough resources and food to go around, and a small group of humans having left the planet to colonize elsewhere, rather like the Pilgrims on the Mayflower. (Or maybe, the Vikings that preceded them!)
    • And as a final thought, the pathological desire to destroy all they can before some of them leave may be rather like a disturbed and vindictive family trashing their rented house.... before they move to a new home.
    I understand that there are many unanswered questions here still, and the actual truth may be a variant on (or only a small part of!) all the above. There's much more to say, but I'll pause now and let readers absorb the above thesis for a short while.




    Thanks for your thoughts about the bigger picture, Bill. I’ll make a coffee and have a careful read through them.

    In the meantime, could you please explain how you see Putin as “the new leader of the free world” when the people of the country over which he rules are having their freedoms increasingly eroded.

    I’ve already posted a list of the main freedoms that are being curtailed, but I was reading today about the assault on academic freedom, and the right to freedom of expression in Russia. No dissenting opinions are tolerated in schools or universities, and academic freedom is being obliterated. The Kremlin’s narrative is being pushed to schoolchildren - see this video about Kremlin propaganda in schools
    Students are expelled should they dare speak out against the part line, and educators are being sacked for making anti-war remarks (sometimes informed on to the authorities by their students, which is reminiscent of the Hitler youth). Some educators are under “administrative arrest” and there are massive fines being imposed:
    Roman Melnichenko, Associate Professor at Volgograd State University;
    Elena Baybekova, a maths teacher from Astrakhan;
    Alexander Kynev a lecturer at HSE;
    Evgenia Paygina, a lecturer at Amur State University;
    Irina Gen, an English teacher from Penza;
    Marina Dubrova, at School No. 6 in the city of Korsakov;
    Denis Skopin, an associate professor at St. Petersburg State University;
    Kamran Manafly, a teacher from School Number 498 in Moscow’s Tagansky District

    … and these are just the few that we know about. In addition, there are many others who have resigned their positions in protest at the restrictions on freedom of expression.

    I genuinely don’t understand why people aren’t horrified by all this.

    We all know that actions are what counts.
    Putin’s actions against the people of his own country are the actions of a man who believes that freedom, human rights and civil liberties are of less value than the preservation of his absolute power.
    Words are cheap.
    Lies are easy.
    Manipulation is key.
    Control is everything.

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    Thanks for your thoughts about the bigger picture, Bill. I’ll make a coffee and have a careful read through them.

    In the meantime, could you please explain how you see Putin as “the new leader of the free world” when the people of the country over which he rules are having their freedoms increasingly eroded.

    I’ve already posted a list of the main freedoms that are being curtailed, but I was reading today about the assault on academic freedom, and the right to freedom of expression in Russia. No dissenting opinions are tolerated in schools or universities, and academic freedom is being obliterated. The Kremlin’s narrative is being pushed to schoolchildren - see this video about Kremlin propaganda in schools
    Students are expelled should they dare speak out against the part line, and educators are being sacked for making anti-war remarks (sometimes informed on to the authorities by their students, which is reminiscent of the Hitler youth). Some educators are under “administrative arrest” and there are massive fines being imposed:
    Roman Melnichenko, Associate Professor at Volgograd State University;
    Elena Baybekova, a maths teacher from Astrakhan;
    Alexander Kynev a lecturer at HSE;
    Evgenia Paygina, a lecturer at Amur State University;
    Irina Gen, an English teacher from Penza;
    Marina Dubrova, at School No. 6 in the city of Korsakov;
    Denis Skopin, an associate professor at St. Petersburg State University;
    Kamran Manafly, a teacher from School Number 498 in Moscow’s Tagansky District

    … and these are just the few that we know about. In addition, there are many others who have resigned their positions in protest at the restrictions on freedom of expression.

    I genuinely don’t understand why people aren’t horrified by all this.

    We all know that actions are what counts.
    Putin’s actions against the people of his own country are the actions of a man who believes that freedom, human rights and civil liberties are of less value than the preservation of his absolute power.
    Words are cheap.
    Lies are easy.
    Manipulation is key.
    Control is everything.
    It's not Putin firing those educators. Its those heads/boards of those particular institutions within those oblasts

    I did a quick search about the first example: Roman Melnichenko, Associate Professor at Volgograd State University

    Came across this from a local news site in Volgograd

    It states other professors--and even heads of departments--from the same university were/are publicly voicing their opposition to the SMO. They also were being publicly supported by associates from the university

    However, it was only this particular teacher that got fired by the university heads. He has lots of local support in Volgogagrad who are protesting his termination. And he (along with his supporters) are actively fighting his termination in court

    Its probably the same with the other examples cited. These are unfortunate and individual cases of overzealous educational institute heads picking on teachers

    However, there's no nationwide law that bans educators (or anyone in Russia) from voicing there views of the SMO

    Earlier this year, WaPo had a story that 160 teachers in the US were fired for publicly voicing their political opinions

    Unfortunate decisions made by those institutions. Not by Biden or the US government nor by Putin or the Russian government

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    Default Re: Bill Ryan's personal Question-and-Answer thread. Pile it on. :)

    Damn Bill, just read post 1552, are you passing out antidepressants after that post?
    Maybe ask if anyone would like a last cigarette?

    In the face of what you are describing what is the greatest single thing someone can do to try to make it out to the other side of all this?

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