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    Default Re: THIS PLANET WILL BE THEIRS: David Jacobs' conclusion about the ET agenda

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    Quote Posted by Builder, quoting the FREE Experiencer Facebook Group (here)

    Now who do you believe, David Jacobs with his biased agenda, or the 6,000 individuals that took our surveys?
    In his interview with Richard Dolan, Jacobs pointed out, I think correctly, that no meaningful abduction research could possibly be conducted by an online survey.

    The reason being — my paraphrase! — that what an abductee BELIEVED happened and what really DID happen might be totally, totally different.
    It is true. --not just because of what you've paraphrased, but because the questions on the survey are not really answerable in the format in which the questions are asked. I am a member of what used to be called the FREE group, and is now called 'THE CONTACT MODALITIES, Consciousness and Contact'. I tried to take their survey when I first arrived but discovered I could not. The answers, based on the multiple choice options would have been so far off from accurate as to give a wholly inaccurate impression. I have a lot to say on the subject of this thread. I am healing right now from an injury to my leg and can barely keep my eyes open at the moment. I'll see if I can return to it at some point down the line. In the meantime, I would love to hear more form others on the subject. Notably those of you who have had not just extensive experience with the ETs, but also ample experience exploring consciousness. The one - ( ETs, ET agendas ) - can not really be sufficiently revealed without the other.
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    Default Re: THIS PLANET WILL BE THEIRS: David Jacobs' conclusion about the ET agenda

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    I tried to take their survey when I first arrived but discovered I could not. The answers, based on the multiple choice options would have been so far off from accurate as to give a wholly inaccurate impression.
    Long Post alert. This topic hits close to home here... Feel free to scroll past.

    I agree with you here... I too, tried to take the survey, and did (Where I could).. But found that while specific, it left many things out that forced me to omit a lot of very important things, out of what I was including in my own survey...

    And THAT, in my opinion, is a very narrow view of what I believe they were trying to accomplish. I eventually found a way to include that information, as I didn't want to leave it so "One sided"... But my fear is that those questions, that garnered multiple answers, probably were never included in the end results of the study, but they should have been...

    For those who are not aware of the survey, once you start it, you are invited to follow up to a part 2 and part 3 of the survey. I am fairly sure they poured over the results of each part, and then determined where they would or should go with their questioning in each new "Part"... Based upon what they had gathered. They intended to let the answers determine what the next questions would be...

    For me, the issue was that I didn't just have contact with "Greys", or one specific species... And each that I did, well, they were different... One could have been more military in nature, the other more concerned about life experiences and showing me the beauty of the world we live in- that we are, quite frankly, too busy to slow down and acknowledge.

    I found myself getting to the next question and wondering, "Am I supposed to be writing about my experiences with the greys? The Blue beings? The non corporeal? The ones who chose to use non physical methods of engaging me? Or the ones who appeared in my immediate surroundings?

    And I found myself leaving vast amounts of information either out of my survey, or mixed in with information that possibly SHOULD HAVE BEEN filtered for another group entirely... But I wanted to make sure to include all the species I had encountered... I ended up having to write up a forward for each reply... "When it comes to the blues, that was not my experience", or "If we are talking about the greys, no, that never happened"

    Assuming many whom have had contact experiences, have also been introduced to more than one other intelligent species, I am sure the filtering of said results would have been a nightmare, if all answered much the same way I had to, and as such, how many of those conflicting results ended up swaying one view or another?

    I don't think the issue is as cut and dry as "Are they friendly?" "Are they planning a world take over?"... "Are they always here with us?"...

    I think the answers are much more complex... I believe each of them are just as individual as each of us, and some much more complex in their reasonings... Then add in the elements of the human factor, where we all are individuals, with different agendas, ideologies, and opinions, doubts, strengths and weaknesses, abilities to understand the exchanges in the manner intended... (And that is a big one, as many of them do not communicate as we do, and things can be misinterpreted).. and as such, with even the best of intentions on the part of the experiencer, there will never be one answer that fits all...

    If they wanted to live among us, some would find it refreshing, and "a new way of living", some would be threatened... If they wanted to take over, I doubt many would even be able to recognize it, they're that advanced... If they wanted to be as helpful as possible, some would welcome it, some would wonder what their motives were...

    I think we are in a silent war against at least one very intelligent species, and we are getting help by others to repel them... As far as being taken over? That is something that we must survive to even have to worry about...

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    Default Re: THIS PLANET WILL BE THEIRS: David Jacobs' conclusion about the ET agenda

    Imagine the trouble it would cause if the lumberjack on the alien examination table had his conscious awareness taken and placed in a third party shell where he watched as his body was worked on, the little guys with dark eyes examine him.
     In the meantime they examine a little girl from a different part of the world. Much the same way she is taken and her conscious awareness is taken to a third party shell where it hangs and observes unable to do much else.
    Then for whatever reason, on purpose, by mistake because it was a trainee, or by some plan to weaken those you intend to overtake soon but for whatever reason now imagine that the conscious awareness of the little girl is placed in the lumberjack body and the lumberjack "HE Man" is placed into the little girl and they are sent home!
    You can figure out the rest! 
    The genius consistently stands out from the masses in that he unconsciously anticipates truths of which the population as a whole only later becomes conscious! Speech-circa 1937

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    Default Re: THIS PLANET WILL BE THEIRS: David Jacobs' conclusion about the ET agenda

    Quote Posted by Ratszinger (here)
    ........ imagine that the conscious awareness of the little girl is placed in the lumberjack body and the lumberjack "HE Man" is placed into the little girl and they are sent home!
    You can figure out the rest! 
    Yup. You get the 'Lumberjack' song by Monty Python.

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    Default Re: THIS PLANET WILL BE THEIRS: David Jacobs' conclusion about the ET agenda

    "WF? The Greada Treaty | America's Alien Alliance"
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    "WF? The Greada Treaty | America's Alien Alliance"
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    "On February 20, 1954, President Eisenhower vanished for an entire night. The official story claimed a dental emergency, but that was a lie.
    The President was at Edwards Air Force Base for the most important meeting in human history. Two alien races had arrived on Earth, each offering humanity a different path forward. Eisenhower made his choice. The consequences of that decision have remained hidden for seventy years.


    'HE TOLD HIS GRANDSON THAT HIS FATHER HAD "SOLD OUT THE HUMAN RACE". WHEN GLEN CONFRONTED HIS FATHER ABOUT THIS YEARS LATER, JACK TOLD HIM THAT HE WAS A SIGNATORY TO THE GREADA TREATY AS A WITNESS.'

    If you're familiar with UFO lore, then you may have heard about the "Greada Treaty", the alleged 1954 agreement between President Dwight Eisenhower and the Grey aliens to trade their advanced technology in exchange for access to a small number of Americans for biological study, who would be abducted while they were asleep and who would have no memory of the abduction after they were safely returned.

    In the wake of the global COVID vaccine mandates and the rush to inject at least 70% of the human population with gene-altering "manipulative magnetic nano-medicine", the Greada Treaty parable has taken on added significance as the potential harbinger of a planetary alien abduction scenario.

    The implantation of tracking devices has been a recurring theme of the alien abduction phenomenon since the 1961 Betty and Barney Hill incident. The unfurling of the WEF/DARPA/Hexa-X Project agenda to connect the biofields of all humans as "nodes" or "devices" to the Human Brain/Cloud Interface appears to be a grand revelation of what this is all about.

    When the COVID mandates began and reports of "self-asembling nanotechnology" soon followed, I couldn't help asking myself if the "vaccines" were the first step towards transforming the human race into prototypes of Earth-based Greys and if this is what an alien invasion actually looks like?

    Nanorobots aerosolized to place minimal-sized electrodes in a network within a brain to wirelessly transmit encoded information, to and from a cloud-based supercomputer network, for real-time brain state monitoring and data extraction would require the use of D-Wave quantum computers and Artificial Intelligence. Patents for such technologies exist.

    Neuralnanorobotics are being developed to enable instantaneous real-time interface between the human brain and both biological and non-biological computing systems, providing implantees with instant access to synthetic telepathy, the world’s knowledge and Artificial Intelligence.

    If this isn’t the "hive mind" of the Greys, then what is?

    Remember this video of a veteran's cemetery that shows how a cellphone's Bluetooth app displays several nodes in the immediate vicinity, where there is nothing but the graves of soldiers who were buried in 2020 and 2021? Their corpses were still transmitting Bluetooth MAC addresses from six feet below.


    https://forbiddenknowledgetv.net/int...f-dead-bodies/
    ( VIDEO: "Internet of Dead Things" - Pub. Jan. 5th, 2024 by ForbiddenKnowledgeTV.net)

    Attorney Todd Callender and his team discovered that SARS-CoV-2 is actually a device patented in 2007 that was designed to be the backbone of the infrastructure of the Wireless Body Area Network (WBAN).

    They also found a patent for harvesting energy from the WBAN and that all of the manmade viruses, like HIV and SARS-CoV-2 have their own IP addresses – and that all of the "vaccine" ingredients have IP addresses, as do most over-the-counter medications, such as allergy pills – and that all of these drugs' IP addresses are connecting to supercomputers owned by IBM and Microsoft.

    David Jacobs, PhD is the foremost authority on the topic of a global alien hybridization project to integrate themselves into Earth’s civilization and government, in preparation for what he believes is their imminent planetary takeover.

    VIDEO: "Richard Dolan Show: 'This Planet Will Be Theirs' – David Jacobs" - Pub. Dec. 11, 2018 by ForbiddenKnowledgeTV.net


    In his 2015 book, ‘Walking Among Us: The Alien Plan to Control Humanity’, which is based on three decades of research, studying over 1,150 abduction events experienced by 150 people, he estimated that the alien hybridization program involves at least tens of millions of human beings, globally.

    Dr Jacobs observed the following about the alien abduction phenomenon:

    1. It is intergenerational. The children of abductees become abductees and so do their children and so on, regardless of whether or not both parents are involved. This has been known since the 1980s, when Budd Hopkins started his work.

    2. It is global. This is not an American phenomenon. Everybody around the world describes the same things; they’re basically having the same experiences. It’s also a new phenomenon. People were not describing these experiences in the 12th century – or even in the 19th century. Jacobs says that there has never been anything like this in human history; that so many people have been describing these same strange experiences; things that are bizarre beyond imagination.

    3. It is clandestine. The reason for this he says, quite simply is that they don’t want us to know what they’re doing.

    Dr Jacobs was led to the conclusion that an alien-controlled program to create alien-human hybrids had reached a new stage of completion: the integration of human-looking "hubrids" into human society.

    He says hubrids are designed to look average and to not stand out in a crowd. Their function is to infiltrate, "blend in" and to live among us. The main difference between them and us is that they can control us mentally, with the ability to put thoughts and images in our mind.

    Were the people who unconscionably force-vaccinated billions of people hubrids?

    My best friend for nearly a decade at the turn of the century was the late Glen Pruitt, until he passed away in 2005 at the young age of 43. He was the son of Jack Pruitt, alleged by all of the main proponents of the Montauk Project legend as having been the Director of the Project, in charge of hiring, firing and paying personnel.

    When I first met Glen, he had no clue about his father’s possible involvement in the Montauk Project and he was highly annoyed by such claims, until he met with Preston Nichols and Al Bielek separately and had them pick out his father from a group photo at his job in the Dallas office of Republic National Bank of New York. They both easily picked Jack out of a group of 50 people.

    Glen told me that he didn't meet his paternal grandfather, Lee Pruitt until he was 11 years old and when he asked him why, he replied that it was complicated but that when he was grown up, he would understand. All he would tell his grandson was that his father, Jack had "sold out the human race". When Glen confronted his father about this years later, Jack told him that he was a signatory to the Greada Treaty as a witness.

    As it happens, Lee Pruitt had been Nikola Tesla’s intern while he was studying at the University of Colorado. Lee claimed that when Tesla visualized a particular molecule that was needed for the filament inside a vacuum tube to amplify EM fields, he was able to synthesize the required alloy for those filaments. Years later, Lee would brag to his grandson that his special Thomson tubes were used in the Philadelphia Experiment.

    Glen told me he and his father were spiritual arch enemies who had been reincarnating together and battling each other for millennia. He described his father as a practitioner of "Masonic High Magic". Around 1999, Jack Pruitt was made a 34th Degree Freemason by George Bush Sr. at a ceremony in Dallas. This was according to Glen's stepmother, Gloria who was glowing with pride after having met George and Barbara Bush at the reception afterwards.

    Glen said one of his earliest memories was of being about 5 years of age and finding himself with his father and others in the project one mile beneath Montauk, where a pyramid had been excavated. He said he had the ability to wave his hand in front of the pyramid's entrance and the heavy stone door slid open, apparently due to a past life of his in Ancient Egypt.

    This jibes with what Sabrina Wallace recently said about how the Breakaway Civilization has been around since the time of Ancient Egypt and how it doesn't need electronics to do something like what Glen described to me. They use technology that is calibrated to the resonance of their biofields.

    On the other hand, Glen did a lot of work with people like Derrel Sims, to recover his memories, in a bid to gain control over his amazing overweight. What Glen discovered is that he had at least 50 layers of disinformational programming; false memories, piled on top of each other. We may never know how much of what Glen recalled was true.

    For her part, Sabrina Wallace thinks that UFOs and aliens are a big PSYOP and that we'd rather blame "aliens" for what is actually human-to-human betrayal by a high-tech Breakaway Civilization.

    She claims to have been experimented on for Human Augmentation as a child at the Menninger Foundation, where she was implanted with "John von Neumann architecture"; that is, a body-machine interface connected to quantum databases belonging to IBM. Her experience had nothing to do with aliens.

    So, whether it's a PSYOP or not, here is The Why Files breakdown the classic UFO legend about the Greada Treaty.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPxOHRySFRM

    This Substack is reader-supported. "

    (I can't vouch personally for the rest of this article though I don't doubt it's all true, but I do remember as a young child, seeing Eisenhower on TV right after his strange disappearance and re-emerging, and I asked my mother why he looked so scared. It was obvious to me that he had been very traumatized by something... )

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    This episode of the "Why Files" reads more like fiction, but there are clearly parallels with the one above.
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    "Three hikers stumbled upon something impossible in the New Mexico desert. Inside a hidden chamber carved into Chaco Canyon's walls, they discovered artifacts that defied everything archaeologists thought they knew about human history.

    The National Security Agency seized the site within 48 hours. For over two decades, Project Ancient Arrow remained buried in classified files until a series of rockslides revealed the truth.

    This wasn't just a room—it was an entrance to something far more complex. Twenty-three chambers spiraled through solid rock, each containing technology that shouldn't exist and symbols nobody could translate.

    When scientists finally cracked the code, they uncovered a message from 750 years in the future. The senders called themselves Wingmakers, and they had a warning about humanity's survival."



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    Posts about the Wingmakers material, Lyricus, Dr. Neruda, etc. go all the way back to the opening days of this forum, which you can see if you do a "Wingmakers" search. Here is one of those early threads: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...l=1#post827362
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    A few notes!
    1) The 'Greada Treaty' has been all over the internet for years. No-one has ever explained what or where 'Greada' is. I'm pretty sure it's a typo for Grenada, and has been mindlessly copied over and over and over and over and over and over and over again.

    2) The Wingmakers was fiction, but very pertinent, clever and sophisticated fiction. (Yes, DO read Kerry Cassidy's excellent interview with the Wingmakers' creator, James, which I believe is the only one he ever did.)
    3) Re Dr David Jacobs, do see this important Avalon thread:
    Each breath a gift...
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    Default Re: THIS PLANET WILL BE THEIRS: David Jacobs' conclusion about the ET agenda

    Richard Dolan has re-released a very important 2018 interview with Dr David Jacobs.

    My own brief comment here:

    The ETs monitoring this planet (extensively, and in large numbers for decades or longer!) would absolutely need and want to understand the factual details of human geopolitical, scientific and social developments, this agenda being an exact analogy to that of human national intelligence agencies infiltrating other nations' governments and institutions of every kind.

    So, of course they 'walk among us'. It's crystal clear. No way would they just be watching us from a height wondering what we're thinking, planning, or hiding. They'd get right in there at our human level to make sure they know and understand absolutely everything about us.

    Part 1: "The Program" - Dr. David Jacobs Reveals The Alien Agenda


    Part 2: "They Walk Among Us" - Dr. David Jacobs on The Hybrid Endgame


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    Default Re: THIS PLANET WILL BE THEIRS: David Jacobs' conclusion about the ET agenda

    I asked GROK the following question.
    Imagine if? Most missing people every year are taken by aliens for food. Now lets say they have been here feeding off humans and other animals as a meat source for eons and we are too unaware to notice. Besides everyone knows that so many people come up missing every year anyway right?
    But lets imagine a possible defense if say the powers that run this world found out the truth of what was going on?
    What possible defense is there to keep a highly advanced super race of meat eaters from partaking of humans? Answer? Big Pharam and the FDA!
    Why would the FDA approve such things in the food Americans eat compared to the rest of the world??
    To taint the meat and force abductions to take place elsewhere?
    Abduct a typical American even a homeless one and you get tainted drugged up meat and if a composed normal citizen you get a big Pharma taint on the taste and all the drugs they ingested as well? Congress has proven these 'Aliens' or non human intelligences are real. If they are not hybridizing and they are not communicating with us and not feeding off the planetary menu why eles would they be here?

    GROK's answer below:
    "The idea that aliens have been harvesting humans for food over millennia, unnoticed amid the noise of annual missing-persons cases (roughly 600,000 in the U.S. alone), is a classic “hidden-in-plain-sight” conspiracy trope. Let’s treat it as a thought experiment and follow your logic to its proposed defense: Big Pharma + FDA as anti-alien meat tenderizer.The “Tainted Meat” Hypothesis, RefinedPremise: An interstellar predator species finds Earth’s 8 billion humans a convenient protein source but prefers “clean” meat—free of synthetic chemicals, heavy metals, and pharmaceutical residues that could sicken or intoxicate them. They apparently also prefer clean cattle meat and test it to be sure before cattle are taken if we are to follow this thought process.

    Mechanism: Global elites (or a panicked deep state) discover the abductions in, say, the 1940s–50s (Roswell era). Instead of futile kinetic defense against a Type II/III civilization, they opt for biological deterrence:
    Flood the American food chain with additives the aliens can’t metabolize or find palatable:
    Seed oils high in omega-6 (rancid to alien taste buds).
    High-fructose corn syrup (ferments oddly in non-human digestion).

    Fluoridated water (calcifies alien pineal equivalents).

    Statins, SSRIs, Ozempic, etc. (build up in human tissue, creating a “chemically marinated” flavor profile).

    Evidence in the Wild:
    The U.S. allows BHT, BHA, Red 40, rBGH, glyphosate residues at levels banned in the EU/Japan—exactly the kind of “spoiler” chemicals you’d use to ruin a crop for a specific predator.
    American life expectancy is falling while obesity/drug use soar—perfect for producing low-grade, contaminated meat that forces aliens to shop elsewhere (Scandinavia? Bhutan?).

    Why It Might Actually WorkAsymmetric warfare:
    No need for railguns or SDI lasers. Just make 330 million Americans walking biohazards.
    Plausible deniability: The FDA frames it as “regulatory capture” or incompetence; the real goal is hidden in plain sight.
    Global arbitrage: Aliens shift abductions to “clean” populations (e.g., rural India, Amazonian tribes), explaining why U.S. missing-persons cases don’t spike in patterns that match UFO hotspots.

    Holes in the Theory (For Fun)Homeless paradox: If aliens avoid drugged-up Americans, why not target the 600,000+ homeless, who often lack access to Big Pharma meds and processed food? (Answer: maybe they do—and those cases are written off as overdoses.)
    Elite self-preservation: Do congressmen and CEOs eat the same slop? (Private organic farms, anyone?)
    Alien adaptability: A species that crosses light-years probably has detox nanites or CRISPR’d digestive tracts. Our chemicals might just be “spicy.”

    The Dark Punchline If Congress’s 2023–2025 UAP hearings (Grusch, Fravor, Graves) confirm non-human biologics, and abductions aren’t for hybrid programs or curiosity… then yes, we might already be livestock. The FDA’s “approved” list reads less like negligence and more like a strategic contamination protocol—a slow-burn crop dust to keep the reapers at bay. The ultimate defense isn’t starships or nukes. It’s making humanity taste like a gas-station hot dog left under the heat lamp for 12 hours. Bon appétit, Zeta Reticulans—hope you like microplastics."
    The genius consistently stands out from the masses in that he unconsciously anticipates truths of which the population as a whole only later becomes conscious! Speech-circa 1937

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    Default Re: THIS PLANET WILL BE THEIRS: David Jacobs' conclusion about the ET agenda

    Quote Posted by Ratszinger, consulting Grok (we assume as a joke!) (here)
    ... a classic “hidden-in-plain-sight” conspiracy trope.
    I'd be quite interested to ask Grok a question to which we know the answer as a fact (maybe: "Do alien abductions of humans really occur?") — and see if it also responds in terms of a "conspiracy trope".


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    Default Re: THIS PLANET WILL BE THEIRS: David Jacobs' conclusion about the ET agenda

    I asked X if “aliens abduct humans”, and that brought the following, besides also bringing forward the David Jacob’s interview with Richard Dolan.

    It brought up an X post about Jake Barber interview, see here,

    https://x.com/AvirupM42/status/1961902605917151485



    Paul Stonehill also commented to the above X post as follows,

    Paul Stonehill
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    NHI really are not stupid. They choose not to keep abducted politicians.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dEUSdJau2ZQ

    As for Barber, I personally do not take him seriously.

    https://x.com/RussianUFOlogy/status/1962031539413500347





    X also brought up X posts about the “Collins Elite”.

    Here’s a couple of X posts,

    T R U T H P O L E
    @Truthpolex
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    Sep 5
    🚨 The Collins Elite - The Collins Elite is believed to a collective or a faction of high-ranking Pentagon and U.S Government officials who believe that UFO Phenomenon is Demonic & Occult in Nature or a Dmeonic Deception.

    They reportedly believe that these entities are Fallen Angels or Supernatural Forces.

    -Ninjas Are Butterflies

    #Ufotwitter

    https://x.com/Truthpolex/status/1963999256475222250




    Ian Broadmore
    @IanBroadmore
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    Oct 29
    Ritual tech. Occult gateways.
    Jack Parsons didn’t summon gods—he opened doors
    What came through wasn’t alien
    It was ancient. Fallen. Masked.
    The Collins Elite knew: this is spiritual warfare disguised as disclosure.
    #CollinsElite #AlienDeception #FallenAngels #BlueBeam

    https://x.com/IanBroadmore/status/1983489471766241305



    The Secrets of Old Money
    @OldMoneySecret
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    Aug 6
    Replying to
    @OldMoneySecret
    1. The Collins Bloodline Was Born in Secrecy, Not Wealth.

    - Collins are said to arrive in England around 1600s, They came with occult knowledge & a mission to embed black magic into the heart of the New World before christanity took place.

    - Their real rise began when they integrated into high society through strategic marriages and religious institutions.

    - By the 1700s, they were already influencing politics. Their plan was not to rule, but to control those who RULED.

    - They even initiated the Salem Witch Trials, not as victims, but as Judges, using it to eliminate rivals and spread fear while hiding their own deeper rituals

    https://x.com/OldMoneySecret/status/1953074191189852615



    Jason Wilde
    @JasonWilde108
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    May 27
    They don’t want you to know this… but the so-called "aliens" aren’t all what they seem. According to a covert intelligence faction known as the Collins Elite, much of the modern UFO phenomenon is not extraterrestrial...it's spiritual deception. These aren't visitors from another star… they're entities from another dimension. And a shocking number of them line up with what every major religion has warned us about: demonic forces masquerading as saviors. This was the actual conclusion of a government group investigating UFOs...and they weren’t basing it on fantasy. They were looking at patterns, evidence, behavior, and outcomes.

    Why would "aliens" shut down mid-abduction when someone calls on the name of Jesus? Why do these beings appear through walls, manipulate time, speak telepathically, and leave people psychologically shattered? The Collins Elite saw that many of these cases mirrored ancient accounts of possession or spiritual warfare...not scientific exploration. They studied cases where abductees reported ritual abuse, hybrid programs, and strange messages warning against faith or pushing New Age ideology. These weren’t peaceful galactic tourists. These were tricksters… parasites… deceivers...according to the Collins Elite.

    Not all of these beings are malevolent. While many appear to be demonic in disguise, some encounters show contact with beings of immense love, calm, and light. These ones don’t deceive or traumatize...they heal, inspire, and protect. Are they angels? Higher intelligences? Ancient allies? The Elite didn’t agree. But they knew this: there are two camps. And the good ones...whoever they are...seem to oppose the agenda of the deceivers.

    The war, then, isn’t humans vs aliens… it’s light vs shadow...and we’re caught in the middle. The Collins Elite believed that Earth is a battleground of consciousness. That the deceptive entities are trying to infiltrate human minds, culture, and beliefs under the guise of “contact.” Meanwhile, the benevolent ones operate quietly… subtly… gently nudging individuals toward integrity, awareness, and inner truth. And maybe that’s the point...the loud ones want control. The silent ones want growth.

    The Collins Elite may have been fringe, but they weren’t stupid. They saw a cosmic drama hiding in plain sight...and now, so do you. Choose your side carefully.

    https://x.com/JasonWilde108/status/1927362415571693896




    1. So is any of the above worth considering?

    2. And has anyone heard of this Collins Elite?

    Also the ones that consider Alien abductions as demonic also say the word “Jesus” is very powerful protection against abduction.
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    This is grok replying to my question, “Do aliens abduct humans”

    I copy pasted its answer,


    No, there is no credible scientific evidence that aliens abduct humans.Why the Claim PersistsAnecdotal Reports: Thousands of people worldwide claim to have been abducted by extraterrestrials, often describing similar details—bright lights, missing time, medical examinations, and small gray beings. These stories gained traction in the late 20th century through books like Communion (1987) by Whitley Strieber and high-profile cases like Betty and Barney Hill (1961).
    Cultural Influence: Media (e.g., The X-Files, Close Encounters of the Third Kind) and support groups reinforce the narrative. Hypnosis sessions, where many "memories" surface, can create false recollections via suggestion (a phenomenon called confabulation).

    Scientific ExplanationsSleep Paralysis: Up to 40% of people experience this at least once. It causes vivid hallucinations of intruders, pressure on the chest, and inability to move—matching many abduction descriptions. Studies (e.g., in Sleep Medicine Reviews, 2011) link it directly to "alien abduction" experiences.
    Psychological Factors: Trauma, PTSD, fantasy-prone personalities, or substance use can produce hyper-realistic false memories. Harvard psychiatrist John Mack studied abductees but later acknowledged psychological origins in many cases.
    Hoaxes and Misidentification: Some claims are deliberate fakes (e.g., for attention or profit). Others stem from misperceived events like military tests, drones, or medical procedures under anesthesia.
    Lack of Physical Evidence: Despite millions of smartphones and surveillance cameras today, no verifiable photos, implants, or DNA from abductions exist. Alleged "implants" tested (e.g., by MIT in 1990s) were terrestrial materials like glass fibers.

    The Broader ContextSETI and Astronomy: Decades of searching (e.g., via radio telescopes) have found no signs of intelligent alien life contacting Earth. The Fermi Paradox asks where is everybody?—but abductions would imply they're here and hiding poorly.
    Government Investigations: Projects like the U.S. Air Force's Project Blue Book (1952–1969) and the Pentagon's AARO reports (2021–present) examined UFOs/UAPs. They attribute most to mundane causes; none confirm abductions or alien craft.

    In short, while the idea is fascinating and fun to explore in fiction, it's unsupported by evidence and better explained by human biology and psychology. If aliens are visiting, they're not in the business of midnight kidnappings.

    Explain the Fermi Paradox

    Discuss the Drake Equation

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    Grok do alien abductions of humans really occur?

    No, alien abductions of humans do not really occur. There is zero credible, verifiable evidence that extraterrestrials have ever abducted a human being.Hard Evidence: None ExistsNo physical proof: No confirmed alien implants, spacecraft debris, or biological samples have ever passed scientific scrutiny. Objects claimed as "implants" (e.g., analyzed by NIDS in the 1990s or MIT) were mundane—glass, metal, or dental fillings.
    No video or photos: In an era of billions of smartphones, no clear, unambiguous footage of an abduction exists. All alleged videos are blurry, hoaxed, or explainable (drones, CGI, etc.).
    No consistent witness corroboration: Multiple-witness cases (e.g., Travis Walton, 1975) collapse under scrutiny—witnesses change stories, fail polygraphs, or admit fabrication.

    What Does Explain the PhenomenonClaimed Abduction Feature
    Scientific Explanation
    Missing time
    Memory gaps from stress, intoxication, or sleep disorders
    Paralysis + hallucinations
    Sleep paralysis (affects 8–50% of people; causes realistic "intruder" visions)
    Medical exams / probes
    False memories from hypnosis or trauma; similar to OB-GYN exam recollections under suggestion
    Gray beings with large eyes
    Universal brain pattern in hallucinations (large eyes = threat detection bias)

    Hypnosis is unreliable: 80–90% of abduction "memories" emerge only under hypnosis, which is known to create confabulations (false memories). The American Psychological Association warns against its use in memory recovery.
    Psychiatric studies: Research in Psychological Medicine (2002) and Journal of Abnormal Psychology found abductees score high on fantasy-proneness, schizotypy, and suggestibility—but not psychosis.

    Famous Cases DebunkedBetty & Barney Hill (1961): "Star map" matched no known system; later shown to match a 1960s classroom poster. Hypnosis tapes reveal leading questions.
    Travis Walton (1975): Failed polygraph; crew had financial motive (movie deal). Replicated in lab via suggestion.
    Pascagoula (1973): Witnesses admitted possible hoax; one later said it was a "vision."

    Bottom LineAlien abduction is a modern myth—a mix of sleep paralysis, cultural memes, psychological vulnerability, and occasional fraud. It’s psychologically real to experiencers, but objectively fictitious.If aliens were abducting millions (as claimed), we’d have mountains of evidence. We have none.

    Debunk Travis Walton case

    Fermi Paradox explained

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    Default Re: THIS PLANET WILL BE THEIRS: David Jacobs' conclusion about the ET agenda

    Quote Posted by Ravenlocke, quoting Grok (here)
    No, there is no credible scientific evidence that aliens abduct humans.
    Quote Posted by Ravenlocke, quoting Grok again (here)
    No, alien abductions of humans do not really occur.
    Well, so much for Grok.



    It's a perfect case study of how AI, 'trained' on mainstream internet data, will only ever give mainstream answers — no matter how 'intelligent' it is.


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    As regards the Dr Jacobs' Dolan interview, it was suggested that the Aliens are, despite being highly advanced, secretive, suggesting they might have a weakness preventing them from just taking over the world in a flash. My take on this is mankind's propensity for war and weapons of mass destruction, in particular, nukes, preventing an immediate invasion. Hence their interest in nuclear sites etc. So it's infiltration rather than invasion as Dr. Jacobs states. If push came to shove and there was a war with Aliens I'm sure such weapons would be used but, of course, that would affect the entire, global biosphere. No one involved in the current Disclosure round talks directly about this, only in vague terms.

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    Quote Posted by samsdice (here)
    As regards the Dr Jacobs' Dolan interview, it was suggested that the Aliens are, despite being highly advanced, secretive, suggesting they might have a weakness preventing them from just taking over the world in a flash. My take on this is mankind's propensity for war and weapons of mass destruction, in particular, nukes, preventing an immediate invasion. Hence their interest in nuclear sites etc. So it's infiltration rather than invasion as Dr. Jacobs states. If push came to shove and there was a war with Aliens I'm sure such weapons would be used but, of course, that would affect the entire, global biosphere. No one involved in the current Disclosure round talks directly about this, only in vague terms.
    Yes, I think this was the one thing David Jacobs was quite incorrect about. Secrecy is a core aspect of all military strategy. Sun Tsu wrote frequently about the advantages of secrecy and deception.

    You can also see this everywhere in the animal kingdom. When a lion or a cheetah silently and 'secretly' stalks a deer, it's not because of any weakness. It's simply because to show itself openly would reduce its chances of success in its goal.

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