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    Apparently there are plans to arrest Trump around the elections.



    Also this strange coincidence.

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    Here's an amusing little tidbit:

    There was an article written about this topic on medium and I got caught up in the comments section, debating it with the writer like an idiot. But I couldn't help myself.

    Anyway, I basically said that a hypothetical war between red and blue states would be over pretty quickly, due the red states having all the guns. And this guy said (and I swear to God I'm not making this up!) that guns would be irrelevant and that the blue states would win the war due to their "diversity".
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    Quote Posted by 9ideon (here)
    Apparently there are plans to arrest Trump around the elections.



    Also this strange coincidence.




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    Guns would be irrelevant and that the blue states would win the war due to their "diversity".
    I know a few of 'm from the Gaming community, they're as gunned up as the rest of 'm. I guess diversity could work too, oooh wait, no, perhaps not, lol.

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    This no longer seems impossible.

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    Where are the weapons for this war ?

    One side of the 'fight' has just sent all theirs to ukraine.
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    Quote Posted by norman (here)
    Where are the weapons for this war ?
    I can think of all kinds of things. I'd bet anyone could. All the ingredients are there in plain sight apart from the organization and co-ordination.

    But I'd also bet that some of that planning is happening right now, very quietly. I'm no expert on American culture or society, but seen from afar I'd not be surprised if we're very close indeed to a tipping point of active discontent.

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    I think it will depend upon whether Trump wins the 2024 election. If he doesn't then the election can be assumed to have been rigged and illegally stolen, again - because this time the American people will vote for the restoration of law and order in their homeland, and that's a vote for Trump and only Trump.
    The American people will revolt if they believe the election was stolen again.
    So yes, a civil war is imminent depending on what timeline we are on...
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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)


    This no longer seems impossible.
    Here is the Deep State Propagandists' take.

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    Quote Posted by norman (here)
    Where are the weapons for this war ?

    One side of the 'fight' has just sent all theirs to ukraine.
    Where did the one billion in donations to black lives matter go?
    I've always thought that a possible source.
    Obama's fast and furious was a plan to supply this very thing. I'm sure they've come up with 2.0 and 3.0 since it was outed.


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    Guns would be irrelevant and that the blue states would win the war due to their "diversity".
    I know a few of 'm from the Gaming community, they're as gunned up as the rest of 'm. I guess diversity could work too, oooh wait, no, perhaps not, lol.
    People always talk about movies and music as a source of mind control, but the most triggered mind controlled bunch I see are the gamers. Ever notice how gamers are almost always liberal and get triggered as soon as you mention anything with red or pill in it?
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    With regard to American culture and a tipping point, these two songs have recently gone viral in the U.S. on YouTube and seem to speak to a whole lot of people. Reading the comments under each video is worthwhile.

    Note that the first video, Jason Aldean, has 29 million views, but the original video has been inexplicably shortened. You can check it out on YouTube and read the comments on that one, too. The video I posted below is the original full length version which was posted only recently and has only 1M views.







    There are dozens of YouTube podcasters posting videos reacting very positively to these two music videos.

    Music can be a force of nature.

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    Quote Posted by norman (here)
    Where are the weapons for this war ?

    We have them.

    Private hands.

    Here again we are mixing a bunch of terms.

    The United States has never had a Civil War: two sides fighting for control of the government.

    I think that this would be far less likely to happen than either of two scenarios: military coup or insurrection.

    By the latter I mean what we saw around the last election: Antifa busts up a bunch of stuff, nothing productive comes from it. They do not seem to have a definable enough political platform to even be called a "side" if there was war.

    The militia has no interest or ability to march on Washington and are generally Trumpeteering statists.

    I would describe it as "defensive", and, since the idea of millions of Communists parachuting in for an invasion is obsolete, that leaves one significant bloc they might fight, Antifa.

    Nothing disorganized about it. Not in the position of spamming cell phones so hopefully a bunch of radicals come crawling out of the woodwork; rather, this *is* the police and fire department, the teachers, the government, the family businesses, and so on. Nothing new, because this has always been here ever since prior to the colonial revolts. Just to remind everyone about gun control, even when the governors were loyal to the British, it means:


    You own a gun and come when we call you.


    In a legal sense, this has been rescinded and the governor merely commands a voluntary National Guard.

    On the human level, nothing changed, other than the original plan meant the government would supply the ammunition. That is why we have more than they do now.

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    It's a little hard to believe the last post on this thread was back in August. Bumping the thread now simply to remind members and guests that the discussion exists.

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    Default Re: Is CIVIL WAR in America coming?

    I can picture the average conservative picking up a gun and charging, holding the line.

    Who on the left is going to do the same?
    I don't know, but can you take your Xbox to the front lines?
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    Your narrative Ernie is pretty spot on. In America's rural communities these towns will police their own and defend their own. These communities will keep law and order in place side by side with law enforcement. Most of your rural communities voted red, it is the major cities that will be more of a challenge, but I doubt we will see what happened in Minnesota where over 1000 buildings were damaged or destroyed again. Now in the woke very liberal cities, good luck on those areas.

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    A cursory examination of the news would lead people to believe that there is an imminent civil war, based on the presumption of police brutality, invasion, racism, social (in)justice, toxic socialism, and/or oppression.

    Best advice : have a 24 month supply of food, and other necessities... well hidden and protected.

    But there is another preparation few have considered.

    I'm an advocate of America's republican form of government, wherein all men have Creator endowed rights that governments are instituted among men to secure (source: Declaration of Independence). I can find no flaw in that which would trigger a civil war.

    However, there are certain flaws in the Constitution that allowed enemies of the republican form to gain ascendancy and shall lead to the destruction of the nation if not checked.

    The predators cannot win without our consent to be their victims.

    The major players :
    [] Usurers (bankers, corporations, underwriters, etc)
    [] Collectivists / slavers (socialism, progressivism, communism)
    [] Zealots (those who are intolerant of all other races, religions and governments)

    Usury (interest) has been proscribed for 'only' 3500 years, denounced by all religions that I checked, and mathematically unsustainable in a finite money token system like ours. The exponential equation used for compound interest requires an infinite money supply to operate over the long term. Since that is impossible, it means that a portion of debtors shall default simply because enough money does not exist for all to repay their principal and interest.

    The Usurers gained ascendancy after the ratification of the USCON, with its restriction to species coin (insuring a huge demand for credit) and the federal power to legislate over bankruptcies (thus removing all risks of retaliation against the usurers). At the ratification of the USCON, there were no domestic sources of bullion, hence all American coin had to be bought from "friendly" bankers. SMH.

    Though gold and silver strikes eased the pain, the boom in silver threatened to destroy the bankers, via "Free and unlimited coinage of silver". The usurers responded by having 'their' pet government limit to gold coin, in the Coinage Act of 1873, which further shrank the money token supply, driving demand for "an elastic currency" to facilitate trade. This resulted in the Federal Reserve Act of 1913, which bankrupted the U.S. government in 20 years (1933). The State of Emergency, still in force and effect, allowed the CONgress to bypass the USCON, and cease complying with it.

    To deal with the civil unrest of the Great Depression caused by usury, and the sudden collapse of debt-credit, the newly re-organized government embraced communism lite, by enacting FICA / Social Security, and made it legal for the government to TAKE from one to GIVE to another. This abolished private property - one of the core requirements of the Communist Manifesto.

    However, collectivism is genocidal as well as destructive of freedom. In the pre-socialist days, security in old age came from one's family or private charity. Ergo, families were large. Along comes socialism claiming to pay retirement by 'taxing other people's children' so that one need no longer have a large family as security. Unfortunately, the socialist overhead and taxes drove all adults into the work force, while reducing birthrates. Rising population of pensioners versus shrinking tax base is a harbinger of collapse. (See: Europe)

    Furthermore, the confiscation of surplus insured that producers of surplus would diminish. Why work harder if only to have it taken from you? Socialism eventually devolves to equal distribution of misery and lack.

    (Ironically, though the ‘majority’ culture considered public charity to be an embarrassment, the ‘minority’ culture considered it a way to ‘get back’ and force taxpayers to be their indentured servants. Generations grew up, as wards of the glorious collective State, thankful to their new masters.[/sarcasm])

    America's long standing war with Islam has been largely forgotten, and the influx of jihadis will inevitably result in a religious war once their numbers are sufficient. The irony is that socialism forces their victims to pay support for their conquest of the Americas.

    Of course, there are laws on the books that if enforced, would ban Islam, deport all Muslims, and close all mosques. Ditto, for "voluntary" socialism - which is entirely by consent. And without consent of the victims, usury would not have a stranglehold over the nation.

    In fact, if Americans restored their republican form and began to use private Liberty money instead of government funny munny, the usurers and collectivists would be ruined. (If you can create your own money, why borrow from usurers? If you don't need public charity to survive, why would you need entitlements from the State?)

    Hopefully, once people are restored to all their Creator endowed rights, they will no longer tolerate any people who would deny them their rights because they are infidels or of a different race, ethnicity, etc.

    If ever that happened, our former rulers would probably instigate a world wide alliance to destroy these united States of America, for daring to oppose them. I wouldn't be surprised if the coalition was headed by the English monarchy. But I digress.

    LIKELY SUSPECTS
    The three factions will probably be the major combatants in the unCivil unWar. Islamic zealots consider leftishists to be infidels and they are categorically opposed to usurers (banking, etc). The Collectivist Left hate "right wing" banks and corporations (which aren't really right wing), and as atheists, they oppose Islam. And the usurers just want to rob and cheat everyone they can, while pretending to be in favor of traditional government ("right wing").

    TL,DR summation:
    The "predators" plan to dismantle the USCON and replace the "Declaration of Independence" with something in harmony with the UN Universal Declaration of Human Rights, abolishing the republican form of government, voiding Creator endowed rights, and instituting the Peoples Democratic Socialist Republic of America, by universal acclaim of the ignorant serfs, who will cheer their universal servitude in exchange for "free benefits." (It worked in 1933 - the serfs deified FDR)

    If most Americans wake up and support the republican form, the opposition loses, no matter what.

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    strange or coincidence? Western Forces TEXAS...

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    "More than 20 Republican governors now support Texas as Governor Greg Abbott declares the border crisis an invasion and invokes the State's constitutional right to self-defense."

    2 mins long.

    A possible flash point....x..... N


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