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    Default Re: David Wilcock – Proof of a Con-artist Extraordinaire

    Quote Posted by Inversion (here)
    Quote Posted by Mashika (here)
    I'm sorry, but what is a "TI"?
    It's a Targeted Individual. Because of the material he was putting out he was targeted.
    Oh i see, but no, he is not, he has not said anything remotely unique in all his time "speaking up", it's just a rehash of previously known material, and also he keeps changing the story as years pass, that's not a good sign of honesty, that's more like a "new marketing strategy". So excuse me but all he does to bring attention to him, and how he is considered as a fake/conman, is mostly his fault due to how he exposes himself out there, and not how other people treat him

    Sequence of events is always of primary importance:

    say something stupid -> people consider you stupid because of what you said

    And not the other way around:

    People consider you stupid out of nowhere -> Say something stupid to prove them right


    We all know how the tail wagging the dog looks like

    Nothing, absolutely nothing he has said is new info, he has basically just rehashed something someone else said, or picked up from movies. He keeps changing the story as times goes by, and it's always something already previously known but refactored into his own story

    Show me something unique from him, if you have it. He has not been doing that since ever (day one), but prove me wrong, and if i show you that whatever you quote him on is something someone else already said or is a reinterpretation of someone else's ideas/words then what? Will you accept he has nothing and say so openly?
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    Default Re: David Wilcock – Proof of a Con-artist Extraordinaire

    Quote Posted by Mashika (here)
    Quote Posted by Inversion (here)
    Quote Posted by Mashika (here)
    I'm sorry, but what is a "TI"?
    It's a Targeted Individual. Because of the material he was putting out he was targeted.
    Oh i see, but no, he is not, he has not said anything remotely unique in all his time "speaking up", it's just a rehash of previously known material, and also he keeps changing the story as years pass, that's not a good sign of honesty, that's more like a "new marketing strategy". So excuse me but all he does to bring attention to him, and how he is considered as a fake/conman, is mostly his fault due to how he exposes himself out there, and not how other people treat him

    Sequence of events is always of primary importance:

    say something stupid -> people consider you stupid because of what you said

    And not the other way around:

    People consider you stupid out of nowhere -> Say something stupid to prove them right


    We all know how the tail wagging the dog looks like

    Nothing, absolutely nothing he has said is new info, he has basically just rehashed something someone else said, or picked up from movies. He keeps changing the story as times goes by, and it's always something already previously known but refactored into his own story

    Show me something unique from him, if you have it. He has not been doing that since ever (day one), but prove me wrong, and if i show you that whatever you quote him on is something someone else already said or is a reinterpretation of someone else's ideas/words then what? Will you accept he has nothing and say so openly?
    Well, David’s rehashing of events has increasing come from his review of his old notebooks and where he gets new “revelations” thru contact with Archangel Michael.

    Firstly, I think ALL channeling is fraught with difficulty, you simply cannot be sure negative entities are communicating to you (and yes, tarot and OUIJA boards are forms of channeling). So, I see David’s fascination with Law of One material as the first sign he is/was on the road to going astray. All the blather about his being the reincarnation of Edgar Cayce forgets that Cayce’s later revelations were almost all wrong, i.e. the negatives Cayce was communicating with had hooked a large number of believers, so now was the time to unleash the fear-porn and negative energy.

    Secondly, there is a fair amount of evidence Archangel Michael is a negative entity, or a negative ET. Christianity and all religions are manufactured to lead us astray. We don’t need these things to work with God (Source). They were placed here to advance the negative agenda. David has pandered to the Christian community and even calls himself a Christian while openly going against most of Christianity’s dogma in most of its forms. And how do we know Christianity is negative? Communion is a Satanic ritual and in almost all forms, you must go thru the church to get to God. Reincarnation is unrecognized while the concept of hell is reinforced as crowd control. At least two major forms of Christianity will “excommunicate you (from God) dooming you to “everlasting” hell. Fear porn to the highest degree.
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    Default Re: David Wilcock – Proof of a Con-artist Extraordinaire

    David told a story that he fell and in the time it took him to hit the ground he was out of his body and lived a complete other life somewhere else. Tony Rodrigues told a story of someone who violated the 20 & back/career return protocols by keeping someone longer than their contract allotted. He was pulled out of his body and placed into a being who lived a miserable existence for a 1,000 years then time shifted back to his original body. Was David being punished for the material he put out?

    His mother spent a lot of time teaching him how to read and write when he was very young. In school a classmate said this about him "He's so smart he's dumb." Perhaps his mother had some kind of inside information about his future. He's showing signs of mental illness and a person like that needs help, healing and compassion.
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    David told a story that he fell and in the time it took him to hit the ground he was out of his body and lived a complete other life somewhere else. Tony Rodrigues told a story of someone who violated the 20 & back/career return protocols by keeping someone longer than their contract allotted. He was pulled out of his body and placed into a being who lived a miserable existence for a 1,000 years then time shifted back to his original body. Was David being punished for the material he put out?

    His mother spent a lot of time teaching him how to read and write when he was very young. In school a classmate said this about him "He's so smart he's dumb." Perhaps his mother had some kind of inside information about his future. He's showing signs of mental illness and a person like that needs help, healing and compassion.
    I agree Wilcock needs help; he’ll get a little bit more compassion when he quits bilking folks out of their hard earned cash with his useless predictions.

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    In David’s defense, so many people go through similarly long, imaginative and soul seeking venue for a lifetime, discretely. Almost every genuine spiritual seeker of today have probably considered many of David’s options above twice and for themselves,
    from my years of spiritual counseling and meditations I used to hold for people I confess it’s quite normal for casual, unknown individuals on various stages of spiritual awakening to identify themselves ( and their family members) with :

    ascended masters and their families, angels, historical teachers and other important personas and so forth.

    Interestingly enough: those who care to bite through it and seem to go around their “stuff” diligently for years at time sometimes usually grow over it at the same time and in year or two will discard these pondering as useless and insignificant.

    That’s after exploring their options with either “alter individuality” as I’ve mentioned above.


    From my own perspective as experiencer and meditator at the same time and while the natural manifestation of both seems to be nearly interlocked in my life,

    and in my best knowledge as well:

    in order to reach the state of reality and knowing , clearly meditation is important , that is pure state of meditative absorption free of imaginations, visualizations, name repetitions or identifications.
    Discarding all outer so also inner appearances, sounds, thoughts and other impressions as illusion , pure state of meditative absorption is achieved.

    By abiding in that state for prolonged periods of time , most if not all of mental “ballast” is cleared without argument and without augmentation of another “reality” or super theory , without “invention of new religion” if only for yourself, without achieving another imaginary ground or opinion about yourself and so forth.

    All such imaginations ( and higher they reach) become simply an obstacle one time to your meditation and state of clarity.

    That’s nowhere close to say that imaginative experiences are not equally important on spiritual path. They are there to guide us if they are true and befool us in case we are ready and apt to play social games forever.

    But it’s only through clarity of mind how true knowing of reality is achieved at some point and even though not many people of today would know what am I precisely talking about, this kind of clear , super fast intelligence exists in all of us.

    Eventually also and as a culmination of spiritual path and practice, all Old Masters and teachings of our ancestors agree that it is the abstinence from actions, activism, terms and creativity how the state of Peace and Enlightenment is achieved,
    not the other way around.

    Prophets who have denied themselves the right and final advice of our teachers to retreat into natural silence at the end of their path have usually gone over the edge with some activity or one statement or another and got trapped in human fate.

    The same way the greatly advanced society of 2022 forgets about mental well-being, the need of rest, peace or personal freedom for healthy psychic evolution,
    it often overlooks the need for and cultivation of wisdom in our lives.

    The mention of Archangel Michael reminds me of Michael (James) Casbolt who had close association with himself being his part, the genuine Jedi, Cosmic Guardian of Truth and protector of the righteous.
    Michael (James) fought the fakers on all fronts for many years, deep intel and military fakes who have hands in gaming people on all sides too. He lost his mind, his wife and son for it and much else but from my memories of him I can attest that he was utterly honest in his intents from the beginning to the end,
    too honest in processing himself in public view and going mad at the same time,
    fighting the werewolves - between imagination and reality and yes we made immediate connection through our spiritual path ( not something explainable or namable ) and allegiance with the greater truth we are trying g to hold.


    So it may be that Archangel Michael picks spiritually strong people with advanced abilities for especially difficult and menacing human tasks,
    such as assassinating dictators and so forth ( bread and butter for James 07 of course) ,
    protects them about 7 times before the agreement temporarily expires ,

    when people start imaging too much and try to jump human logic , no spiritual power or entity can protect them anymore.

    End of story. Every mystic on this planet who tried to jump reality and logic in order to introduce “ascended systems” eventually ends in madhouse.

    If David and countless other spiritual people including great teachers on this Planet ever listened to their spiritual guides they would hear their advice and retreat from activities when it’s the best for them they would also be safe, sane and would feel more gifted and privileged for the ability to step back and defend their right to their lives, privacy, freedom and true spiritual evolution.

    Wise people I think pass to the next world in silence ..
    rather than talking and in the middle of yet another symposium or seminar ..


    Same bad for me to talk this way.

    About same bad as for the rest of us


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    Secondly, there is a fair amount of evidence Archangel Michael is a negative entity, or a negative ET.
    Incorrect, very much so.
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    Quote Posted by Dumpster Diver (here)
    Secondly, there is a fair amount of evidence Archangel Michael is a negative entity, or a negative ET.
    Incorrect, very much so.
    Right, hidden in plain sight…

    …isn’t he the guy with the sword?

    Get over your Christian brainwashing.

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    Default Re: David Wilcock – Proof of a Con-artist Extraordinaire

    Unnecessarily harsh, DD

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    Get over your Christian brainwashing.
    I don't identify with Christianity. Your disdain towards the religion is clouding your view.

    Many of the most negative entities can't stand Archangel Michael for a good reason.
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    Default Re: David Wilcock – Proof of a Con-artist Extraordinaire

    In the beginning there was the void.
    And into this void came the Word.

    A vibration so perfect it organized the void through the creation of a conscious membrane, an ever changing fractal expression of permanence.

    Because it is good it is beautiful.

    As above, so below.


    There is an organizing principle and that principle has hierarchies expressed as conscious entities.
    The principal itself is the Source of it All.


    For all his faults, David has expressed these sacred truths long ago, and holds them as sacrosanct. Perhaps he would do himself a great favour by rereading his own earlier work...
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    Quote Posted by Wind (here)
    Quote Posted by Dumpster Diver (here)
    Get over your Christian brainwashing.
    I don't identify with Christianity. Your disdain towards the religion is clouding your view.

    Many of the most negative entities can't stand Archangel Michael for a good reason.
    Ok, and you know this how?

    Arch Mikie is all over the Hebrew/Christian/Muslim texts, which are mostly fabricated to promote negative agendas. Revelation, in particular is a text promoting the dark side’s agenda. Any text that promotes ritual sacrifice of animals or people (God/Abraham) cannot be positive for us.

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    The student asked the Buddha, “What did you do before enlightenment?”
    The Buddha replied, “Chopped wood and carried water.”

    The student then asked the Buddha, “What did you do after enlightenment?”
    The Buddha replied, “Chopped wood and carried water.”



    The student asked another, “What did you do before you were contacted by an Ascended Master?”
    The other replied, “Chopped wood and carried water.”

    The student asked the other, “What did you do after you were contacted by an Ascended Master?”
    The other replied, “Taught all who would listen all the mysteries the Ascended Master shared with me. Satisfied my megalomaniacal yearnings, my narcissism and fed my savior complex. Eventually I became well known and was able to charge for my teachings so besides feeding the other three yearnings, I was also able to make some cash.”

    So then the student asked the other, “What did you do after that?”
    The other replied, “Paid others to chop wood and carry water while I went on vacation to Hawaii.”


    Wilcrook studied this well.
    All the above is all and only my opinion - all subject to change and not meant to be true for anyone else regardless of how I phrase it.

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    Quote Posted by Dumpster Diver (here)
    Quote Posted by Wind (here)
    Quote Posted by Dumpster Diver (here)
    Get over your Christian brainwashing.
    I don't identify with Christianity. Your disdain towards the religion is clouding your view.

    Many of the most negative entities can't stand Archangel Michael for a good reason.
    Ok, and you know this how?

    Arch Mikie is all over the Hebrew/Christian/Muslim texts, which are mostly fabricated to promote negative agendas. Revelation, in particular is a text promoting the dark side’s agenda. Any text that promotes ritual sacrifice of animals or people (God/Abraham) cannot be positive for us.
    Can we please stay on topic here!?! Perhaps you want to start a new thread about the Archangel Michael.

    At what ever the truth of the Archangel is, I will not hold it against him that David says that we was told by him to pee on himself in the bath tub.

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    Quote Posted by Kryztian (here)
    Quote Posted by Dumpster Diver (here)
    Quote Posted by Wind (here)
    Quote Posted by Dumpster Diver (here)
    Get over your Christian brainwashing.
    I don't identify with Christianity. Your disdain towards the religion is clouding your view.

    Many of the most negative entities can't stand Archangel Michael for a good reason.
    Ok, and you know this how?

    Arch Mikie is all over the Hebrew/Christian/Muslim texts, which are mostly fabricated to promote negative agendas. Revelation, in particular is a text promoting the dark side’s agenda. Any text that promotes ritual sacrifice of animals or people (God/Abraham) cannot be positive for us.
    Can we please stay on topic here!?! Perhaps you want to start a new thread about the Archangel Michael.

    At what ever the truth of the Archangel is, I will not hold it against him that David says that we was told by him to pee on himself in the bath tub.
    The point was, until the Christian Bible-thumpers came to defend Archangel Michael and their crappy Emperor Constantine/ King James mishmash Bible, David ha$ found the Christian community and is now plumbing those depths for Christian coin.

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    Quote Posted by Dumpster Diver (here)
    Ok, and you know this how?
    Experience and it's the obvious truth anyways.

    David is a gift that keeps on giving, or taking. Glad you noticed it too.
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    Quote Posted by Chester (here)
    The student asked the Buddha, “What did you do before enlightenment?”
    The Buddha replied, “Chopped wood and carried water.”

    The student then asked the Buddha, “What did you do after enlightenment?”
    The Buddha replied, “Chopped wood and carried water.”



    The student asked another, “What did you do before you were contacted by an Ascended Master?”
    The other replied, “Chopped wood and carried water.”

    The student asked the other, “What did you do after you were contacted by an Ascended Master?”
    The other replied, “Taught all who would listen all the mysteries the Ascended Master shared with me. Satisfied my megalomaniacal yearnings, my narcissism and fed my savior complex. Eventually I became well known and was able to charge for my teachings so besides feeding the other three yearnings, I was also able to make some cash.”

    So then the student asked the other, “What did you do after that?”
    The other replied, “Paid others to chop wood and carry water while I went on vacation to Hawaii.”


    Wilcrook studied this well.

    Just seen the above classical Zen quotes and thought of some realistic 2022 answers .

    Student:”What did you do after enlightenment ?”

    Teacher:”Got a solar panel and finally stretched the pipe so that I don’t have to carry water”.


    True to countless “Buddhas” of today, trying to insert “Old and Ascended Masters” to the equation is not as easy as it seems but should they choose to purify their Minds I bet they would get there too.
    The wealth ( or well) of knowledge is far more rewarding than life of complicated luxuries ..


    I’m having hard times to explain to my precious friends elsewhere that someone who are socially co-dependent can’t be a guru to himself and others.

    People are usually socially so dependent these days that even a taste of personal and spiritual freedom is foreign to them.

    Enlightenment that is purely academical and conceptual is hypothetical enlightenment 😅

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    Steve Cambian does an update on David Wilcock and Stavatti Aerospaces "plan" to produce an anti-gravity, free energy car that "will be available soon."



    In September 2021 Wilcock said there would be a working prototype of the vehicle in less than one year! It is now just about one year and Stavatti Aerospace has released . . . (drum roll please) . . . a drawing of the vehicle they "intend" to manufacture.

    You too can invest in Stavatti Aerospace "if you qualify." Minimum investment is $50,000. David Wilcock has invested $1,000,000 of his personal money into Stavatti.

    Stavatti Aerospace has been around since 1994 but they have never produced an actualy airplane (or anything else that would have made money for their investors.) A key figure at Stavatti is Bill McEwen. In the 1990s he bought the rights to the Amiga Computer and promised to develop a new Amiga operating system. McEwen raked in lots of investment money but never produced anything.

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    I know nothing about this. I just came across it and noticed the date is fresh.

    https://twitter.com/CarrieGeren/stat...33937886433280


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    Quote Posted by norman (here)
    I know nothing about this. I just came across it and noticed the date is fresh.

    Well, I had to check into Carrie Geren Scoggins, her twitter account and her Youtube channel. She made a video about Wilcock in 2016:



    She is a Christian fundamentalist and does a long rant about Wilcock and his claims to be a Christian. If you listened to 2 minute segments of her speech, she sounds perfectly sane, but if you look at the over arching argument you realize that nothing in her argument pertains to Wilcock. She also states at the beginning and the end of the video that "other people" find that Wilcock is "aesthetically pleasing", in other words she has a crush on him (yuck! )

    Six years later, her tweets from the last few weeks are utterly bizarre,



    There are many more INSANE tweets, showing she is jealous of Beth Wilcock. (I wonder if she knows he they are now divorced. If so, she will probably be on the next bus out West to show up at David's doorstep! )

    In the 2016 she doesn't seem to indicate that she ever met Wilcock. But her 2022 version of the story makes it seem like they know each other well.

    This woman is clearly delusional (in the clinical sense, since we could call anyone that follows Wilcock "deluded").

    And Wilcock has her as a follower. Lucky him.

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    Actually, and purely a personal perspective of my own, there may be some viability to the idea that Beth could use witchcraft.
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