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    Quote Posted by Lilyofthestars (here)
    Quote David isn't channeling there at all, what he is doing is bull$hitting - pardon my french. This is why channeled material has such a bad rep these days, because almost anyone can try to do it and either think they're doing it correctly, are faking it or are possibly contacting some not so positive sources. The group which channeled Ra consisted of three people who only were able to have contact with the social group memory complex or advanced civilization known as Ra and without the three of them it was not possible to establish connection to Ra. Carla was the main instrument for it and the two males in the group, Jim and Don were the assistants and harmonizers in the group effort.

    They made lots of preparations and there was a very great attention to detail in order to maintain a pure connection to an authentic source which ultimately cost the life one of the group members as their material was too valuable and the psychic attacks against the group only intensified. Also Carla as a wanderer suffered from various health symptoms over her life besides the psychic attacks and she has since passed on. Only her husband Jim is only alive anymore, I do wonder what he might think about David. David used to be their guest.

    You have to give credit to David where credit is due, he does give some entertaiment to the alternative community if nothing else.
    Its very refreshing to see someone actually understand the intricacies to the RA material and the extreme preparations which were required to sustain the contact over those years. The source of the RA material was infinitely higher on the frequency scale than other channeled sources. It is incredibly rare to sustain a sixth dimensional contact. Understanding the RA material before judging it truly requires the studying of the entirety of the material (that's 1000+ pages in total) to grasp the complexities of what Carla, Don, and Jim had to go through to maintain what was known as the "narrow band" channel which was akin to the size of a straw, in order for the communication line to remain open. I recall that when they originally encountered RA, RA attempted to sustain the contact with Jim and Don, but ultimately couldn't hold contact with either men longer than a few minutes. Carla was the only one who could remain in just the right orientation for this enormous effort. Very specific degree positions were given where her body/head had to be in just the right position. If her hair was even positioned in the wrong way, it might disrupt the delicate connection. RA would place her consciousness in a safe space while they spoke through her very very slowly. What could take 3 minutes to read on a piece of paper may have taken 30 minutes to be spoken word for word in live time. Also, when Carla was physically weighed after channeling sessions, she often would have lost a few pounds because so many bodily resources were used up just to sustain the contact. There is no doubt the RA contact was 100% authentic. While other channeling efforts (like A course in miracles) may have been due to CIA mind control efforts, I do not feel the RA material ever was.

    Wind, did you know that Jim has continued the work to this day? I'm not a fan of the recent work they've been doing, but I do check in on it from time to time. He now works with millennial aged guys to achieve what is known as "Q'uo". RA supposedly arranged Q'uo, an amalgamation of three social memory complexes deriving from the fourth, fifth, and sixth (being RA) densities. The sessions are okay, but have never quite compared to the original RA sessions. I'm still on the fence about how authentic the recent work is. Without Carla and Don, and with the presence of certain newcomers like Austin, I think the material has massively gone down hill. Its mostly a disappointment and often just seems off putting and lacking in wisdom.

    It has always pained my heart to see how David has butchered the material. He once understood it, but it appears once Goode came into his life, he began saying things that were in direct opposition to the material. He not only contradicts the RA material, but also consistently insults and contradicts Edgar Cayce's own readings again and again and again. I personally believe Wilcock is the reincarnation of Cayce.. Wyn Free's book on this subject puts forth a very convincing argument for it. Unfortunately, that doesn't mean he has the ability that Cayce once did. Cayce always said that any soul in question can go into a "backwards" trend of soul retardation during any given lifetime, much like watching a stock market chart go up and down and up and down.

    I mainly pity Wilcock and hope one day he'll come back to his senses.
    I also studied the Ra - Law Of One material at length but have not kept up in recent years. I learned some things from Wilcock's early work published in free pdfs, and bought his first book. He did lose his way after that, I agree.
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    I am not sure that there are any major revelations here except - - -



    - - - that reverse speech David Wilcock is less abrasive and annoying that forward speech David Wilcock

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    I think DW was Cayce too, and even though Cayce helped a lot of people and contributed some great predictions and other info, his "fall" may serve as a good object lesson for those who choose to dabble in the occult, however well meaning.
    Many great spiritual teachers have warned against that, with good reason, imho.
    Powers may come to us as we advance spiritually, but to focus on them as a means for advancing ourselves (whether via ego, ambition, wealth, whatever) can be a very tricky business, and lead to great imbalances in our being.
    Cayce was not taking care of himself at all; doling out good advice to other people while not following it himself was sure to have repercussions.
    You can't go on being a clear vessel for higher energies if you are continuously polluting that vessel...

    I was studying channeled material from various sources for quite some time, and at one point it became really clear that something was going very wrong with almost all of them, even though they seemed to be very clear and sincere and providing good information at first.
    Then big pay walls came up, phony accents and weird mannerisms appeared, messages became full of hope porn and misdirection, and out and out fake info.
    I couldn't find one that seemed worthy of attention any longer.

    There have been various explanations, among them that Earth is traversing a region of spacetime/dimension where there are a lot of mischievous and malevolent discarnate entities who are happy to lead anyone who is unwittingly opening themselves up in that way to a perilous invasion of their very being.
    Whatever the case may be, we all seem to be experiencing a kind of crucible right now, and it doesn't appear that the climb back up out of materiality is going to be quick or easy, and "short cuts" might end up to be unworthy of the risk in the long run.


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    Quote Posted by Lilyofthestars (here)
    Quote David isn't channeling there at all, what he is doing is bull$hitting - pardon my french. This is why channeled material has such a bad rep these days, because almost anyone can try to do it and either think they're doing it correctly, are faking it or are possibly contacting some not so positive sources. The group which channeled Ra consisted of three people who only were able to have contact with the social group memory complex or advanced civilization known as Ra and without the three of them it was not possible to establish connection to Ra. Carla was the main instrument for it and the two males in the group, Jim and Don were the assistants and harmonizers in the group effort.

    They made lots of preparations and there was a very great attention to detail in order to maintain a pure connection to an authentic source which ultimately cost the life one of the group members as their material was too valuable and the psychic attacks against the group only intensified. Also Carla as a wanderer suffered from various health symptoms over her life besides the psychic attacks and she has since passed on. Only her husband Jim is only alive anymore, I do wonder what he might think about David. David used to be their guest.

    You have to give credit to David where credit is due, he does give some entertaiment to the alternative community if nothing else.
    Its very refreshing to see someone actually understand the intricacies to the RA material and the extreme preparations which were required to sustain the contact over those years. The source of the RA material was infinitely higher on the frequency scale than other channeled sources. It is incredibly rare to sustain a sixth dimensional contact. Understanding the RA material before judging it truly requires the studying of the entirety of the material (that's 1000+ pages in total) to grasp the complexities of what Carla, Don, and Jim had to go through to maintain what was known as the "narrow band" channel which was akin to the size of a straw, in order for the communication line to remain open. I recall that when they originally encountered RA, RA attempted to sustain the contact with Jim and Don, but ultimately couldn't hold contact with either men longer than a few minutes. Carla was the only one who could remain in just the right orientation for this enormous effort. Very specific degree positions were given where her body/head had to be in just the right position. If her hair was even positioned in the wrong way, it might disrupt the delicate connection. RA would place her consciousness in a safe space while they spoke through her very very slowly. What could take 3 minutes to read on a piece of paper may have taken 30 minutes to be spoken word for word in live time. Also, when Carla was physically weighed after channeling sessions, she often would have lost a few pounds because so many bodily resources were used up just to sustain the contact. There is no doubt the RA contact was 100% authentic. While other channeling efforts (like A course in miracles) may have been due to CIA mind control efforts, I do not feel the RA material ever was.

    Wind, did you know that Jim has continued the work to this day? I'm not a fan of the recent work they've been doing, but I do check in on it from time to time. He now works with millennial aged guys to achieve what is known as "Q'uo". RA supposedly arranged Q'uo, an amalgamation of three social memory complexes deriving from the fourth, fifth, and sixth (being RA) densities. The sessions are okay, but have never quite compared to the original RA sessions. I'm still on the fence about how authentic the recent work is. Without Carla and Don, and with the presence of certain newcomers like Austin, I think the material has massively gone down hill. Its mostly a disappointment and often just seems off putting and lacking in wisdom.

    It has always pained my heart to see how David has butchered the material. He once understood it, but it appears once Goode came into his life, he began saying things that were in direct opposition to the material. He not only contradicts the RA material, but also consistently insults and contradicts Edgar Cayce's own readings again and again and again. I personally believe Wilcock is the reincarnation of Cayce.. Wyn Free's book on this subject puts forth a very convincing argument for it. Unfortunately, that doesn't mean he has the ability that Cayce once did. Cayce always said that any soul in question can go into a "backwards" trend of soul retardation during any given lifetime, much like watching a stock market chart go up and down and up and down.

    I mainly pity Wilcock and hope one day he'll come back to his senses.
    I also studied the Ra - Law Of One material at length but have not kept up in recent years. I learned some things from Wilcock's early work published in free pdfs, and bought his first book. He did lose his way after that, I agree.
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    I've been following Wilcock since 2007. Even though he's come out with a lot of failed predictions over the years and outright BS at others, I still think he's an incredibly bright and insightful mind and clearly very spiritually awake. His "Source Field" book is a masterpiece and the definitive work in the field of consciousness science. His later books have lacked that same academic kudos. It seems that his integrity has suffered the more famous he's become. Despite the ego, the association with the obvious fraud Corey Goode, and the "say some ****" video, I still believe he's a good guy whose just a victim of his own success. I'd sooner see him find his feet again than see him excommunicated entirely. Here is a compilation of his interviews from some of his better days -

    Wisdom of David Wilcock - https://youtube.com/watch?v=GC7YpJ1hrlk
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    Quote Posted by Losus4 (here)
    I've been following Wilcock since 2007. Even though he's come out with a lot of failed predictions over the years and outright BS at others, I still think he's an incredibly bright and insightful mind and clearly very spiritually awake. His "Source Field" book is a masterpiece and the definitive work in the field of consciousness science. His later books have lacked that same academic kudos. It seems that his integrity has suffered the more famous he's become. Despite the ego, the association with the obvious fraud Corey Goode, and the "say some ****" video, I still believe he's a good guy whose just a victim of his own success. I'd sooner see him find his feet again than see him excommunicated entirely. Here is a compilation of his interviews from some of his better days -

    Wisdom of David Wilcock - https://youtube.com/watch?v=GC7YpJ1hrlk

    I'm an agreeable person. In most instances I'm quick to forgive or even if I'm not I usually want to.

    It's taken me years to find healthy limits to my agreeableness. I've finally matured to where I know where my "f#ck you" points are and how to express them effectively. And I no longer feel the slightest bit of guilt when I do because I'm confident that they're largely justified.

    I don't mean to put you on the spot or anything (truly!) but I'm just curious: at what point would you be willing to say to yourself that he's no longer redeemable? What exactly would Wilcock have to do before you were finally convinced that he's not a "good guy"? (using your words) What is your "f#ck you" point?

    I see a guy who has a long history of lying, cheating, stealing, and exploiting the vulnerable. And I see no evidence to suggest that will ever change. For me he is irredeemable. There is nothing he could do at this point to make me trust him. But that's just me. I see nothing to suggest he's a good guy at all.
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    On March 26, 2022, Donald Trump hit a hole-in-one at his golf course in Florida. This was, according to David Wilcock, due to Trump's power of telekenisis and to assistance he received from the angelic realm (apparently, just one of those things isn't suffiencient to hit a hole-in-one, you need both.) At the very same instant in time, David Wilcock acquired his superpowers, as he learned from his good buddy, the Archangel Micheal. For $333 you too can learn techniques that archangel Micheal gave to David to acquire superpowers.

    Steven Cambian tries to make sense of the whack-a-doodle world of David Wilcock, which is like trying to build a mansion out of sand. The one thing that is clear is that Wilcock is getting crazier and crazier and making more outlandish claims every day. Cambian says that this may be because Wilcock gave all of his money to a techno scam, Stravadi Aerospace, and is under tremendous pressure to make money. One reasons Elizabeth Wilcock left him was because he made this investment.

    It would seem, from his own account, that Wilcock is now transferring to ascended master status. Stay tuned!


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    OMG, I watched for about 2 minutes...has this man NO self respect? Appalled doesn't begin to say it...😜😜😜

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    In David Wilcock's latest livestream, apparently based on the "time loops" related to his "Archangel Michael Prophecies" - he is convinced that he was once a member of the secret space program.

    Ooooookay then.
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    Is David in his “fat bastard” phase (with apologies to Mike Meyers)?

    https://youtu.be/m2iQZdaELuE

    …I guess it is somewhat better than his potty humor.

    I’m really thinking his end-times cabin fever is getting worse.
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    Quote Posted by Dumpster Diver (here)
    Is David in his “fat bastard” phase (with apologies to Mike Meyers)?

    https://youtu.be/m2iQZdaELuE

    …I guess it is somewhat better than his potty humor.

    I’m really thinking his end-times cabin fever is getting worse.

    Jesus. It looks like a pile of rocks are trying to climb out of his face. What happened to him?

    I think when you're nasty or ill intentioned on the inside, that stuff will inevitably show on the outside. That kind of distortion appears on the face eventually. You get that ghoulish Jimmy Savile look. Or "Fat bastard"

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    It’s DW doing bits of comedy skits: Colin McGeiser captures insectoid and reads him the riot act.

    David Wilcock Hangout: The Kompleat Colin McGeiser
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    • May 30, 2022
    Those who loik Colin will LOVE THIS, MATE! A 22-minute indulgence of superlative joy and McGeiser-esque English intrigue.

    Join Colin as he foits the most dangerous forces ever to assemble on earth.... bumblebees, hailstorms, snow formations, chooks on the barbie...

    MATE! We've got to talk. Yeh deah Uncle Colin is under surveillance! He has to speak in cryptic-like ways, mate! Be advoysed!

    [CRYPTO NO-NO: Neither David nor Colin reaches out to anyone in the comments section to text them, to interact one-on-one, and most definitely not to sell crypto.

    Apparently enough of you blokes and sheilas fell for this nonsense that we now have an industrial-scale operation to fake out your Uncle Colin.

    Daen't give 'em anything, mate. Colin lives HEEERE in the screen! Eeee's not textin' ya!]

    Quote Posted by Mike (here)
    Quote Posted by Dumpster Diver (here)
    Is David in his “fat bastard” phase (with apologies to Mike Meyers)?

    https://youtu.be/m2iQZdaELuE

    …I guess it is somewhat better than his potty humor.

    I’m really thinking his end-times cabin fever is getting worse.

    Jesus. It looks like a pile of rocks are trying to climb out of his face. What happened to him?

    I think when you're nasty or ill intentioned on the inside, that stuff will inevitably show on the outside. That kind of distortion appears on the face eventually. You get that ghoulish Jimmy Savile look. Or "Fat bastard"
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    All joking aside, I am actually thinking that something is wrong with David... Beyond just trying to make a quick buck by reinventing stories over and over... Does anyone know him well enough to make sure he is okay?

    Much as I do not have respect for what he does to others... I really think the guy may need some help...

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    I don't know if the following is valid. Kent Dunn said David's wife is/was his CIA handler. If she left him it would imply he wasn't going along with their program. A couple years ago he had all his teeth capped and it effected his speech for awhile.

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    Quote Posted by Denise/Dizi (here)
    All joking aside, I am actually thinking that something is wrong with David... Beyond just trying to make a quick buck by reinventing stories over and over... Does anyone know him well enough to make sure he is okay? I wonder how that is going???
    Per Steve Cambian, one of the reasons Elizabeth Wilcock left David is because he took all their savings and invested it in Stavatti Aerospace, the company that is supposed to be making flying cars. I think they promised their investors that they would have a working prototype to show them, right about now.

    Quote I really think the guy may need some help...
    What can one do to help David Wilcock??? I think the best thing for him might to be to face the consequences of his own actions.

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    Default Re: David Wilcock – Proof of a Con-artist Extraordinaire

    agreed... Perhaps that is what we are witnessing...

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    David has written four bestselling books. He's definitely opened the minds for others who will carry on with the knowledge he's disseminated. He's described in the past how he would receive horrific emails from people and over time the threats and stalking took a toll. A person goes a little loony which I know from personal experience from being a TI.

    Two of his books in Post# 20
    Quote He wrote about a strategy his antagonists use to discredit him which is Decoy, Distract & Trash (DDT).

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    Quote Posted by Inversion (here)
    David has written four bestselling books. He's definitely opened the minds for others who will carry on with the knowledge he's disseminated. He's described in the past how he would receive horrific emails from people and over time the threats and stalking took a toll. A person goes a little loony which I know from personal experience from being a TI.

    Two of his books in Post# 20
    Quote He wrote about a strategy his antagonists use to discredit him which is Decoy, Distract & Trash (DDT).
    You can't self reference the person to prove the person is right

    Best selling books doesn't mean much, i can write a book and then pay for it to become a 'best-seller' and it doesn't mean people read it or care for it. And this is a known fact

    "No bestseller list measures the actual best selling books."
    https://scribemedia.com/get-best-seller-list/
    Quote Every single list is either measuring a limited number of sales in a few places, or far worse, it’s a curated list and a small group of people are deciding what to put on their list. And they’re picking books based on what they think are “important” books, not based on what is actually selling.

    This is not my opinion. They all admit this.

    The most important bestseller list is The New York Times Best Seller List, and they are the worst culprit at this curated elitism. They readily admit that their list is only “reflective” of books that are selling at a certain number of bookstores and online retailers around the country—but not an actual best seller list.

    You know why they have to admit this publicly? They were sued about it.

    For most of the 20th century, they pretended to use a scientific method to count book sales, and claimed their list was authoritative and accurate.

    And then William Blatty wrote a novel called The Exorcist (which has sold 10 million copies and became a famous movie). It sold more than enough copies to be high on the list for a long time, but initially did not appear on it.

    He rightly claimed that the New York Times was intentionally excluding it for editorial reasons—the book was considered very controversial at the time—and claimed that their decision was costing him millions of dollars in sales.

    He lost the case. Why?

    Because the New York Times defense was that “the list did not purport to be an object compilation of information but instead was an editorial product.”

    The New York Times won the case, in multiple rulings all the way up to the Supreme Court, based on the argument that the list is not supposed to be accurate, but reflects their judgment.

    new-york-times-best-sellers
    It is a valid legal argument…but it also means The New York Times admitted that their bestseller list is just a popularity contest, and not a list of best selling books.

    In essence, they select who they will and won’t put in the “cool kids” club. It’s like high school all over again.

    I’ve seen this so many times, and so has everyone else in publishing. You can see this clearly if you have access to Nielsen BookScan, which is the database that tracks paid sales covering about 70-80% of book outlets. I have access, and I can see how much the New York Times list varies from the Nielsen report of actual books sold (anyone in publishing can see this, and it is a known fact).

    The same thing is true, to different degrees, with the other major national lists—The Wall Street Journal, USA Today, Publisher’s Weekly.
    The 'best-seller' strategy is just a business, you pay the right person and they will get you on the list, regardless of what your book says, or whatever other criteria. It's a simple business, you pay the price, you get on the list

    So that's hardly proof of anything at all

    Honesty and truthfulness is measured by how much money or popularity you have? Even if paid for?

    I'm sorry, but what is a "TI"?
    Quote which I know from personal experience from being a TI.
    Tired

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    I'm sorry, but what is a "TI"?
    It's a Targeted Individual. Because of the material he was putting out he was targeted.

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    Quote Posted by Dumpster Diver (here)
    Is David in his “fat bastard” phase (with apologies to Mike Meyers)?

    https://youtu.be/m2iQZdaELuE

    …I guess it is somewhat better than his potty humor.

    I’m really thinking his end-times cabin fever is getting worse.

    Jesus. It looks like a pile of rocks are trying to climb out of his face. What happened to him?

    I think when you're nasty or ill intentioned on the inside, that stuff will inevitably show on the outside. That kind of distortion appears on the face eventually. You get that ghoulish Jimmy Savile look. Or "Fat bastard"
    I'm trying not to laugh, as I want to minimize my own aging karma. lol

    I am enjoying that it seems his karma is that Archangel Michael is creating a trap for his consciousness, confusing David and leading him down the tubes to self destruction. It is pretty mind blowing for a guy with his experience to be dumb enough to invest almost all his eggs in 1 basket. May not be true of course. But David is still getting crazier and making some pretty bad mistakes. What I first noticed was the hair that in my opinion makes him look quite a bit worse. To me thats a mistake for that aspect of his image.

    I wonder if it is all his lying and creating falsities that is pulling him into self delusion. In other words, karma for deluding others in your imaginations, eventually leads to you getting lost in your own false imaginations as well. Like I said before, I recall that he is a pisces ♓ and they are prone to self delusion anyway.

    Example: a part of his corrupt sub/super consciousness manifests in his dream that convinces him that this space company is gonna be huge. He invests all his money in it, so full of his bs trust in his dreaming super powers, then loses all his money.

    I think I might be on to something Does anyone think the universe can work something like this?

    He really should just keep that old guy act on at all times. That is basically how I see him now anyways and I could see him getting old and starting to lose it, eventually being like that only saying crazier things. lol
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