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    Dutch will probably explain in his next report.
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    Amazing! I found the spot in Idaho where Dutchsinse has indicated a native American site similar to Wisconsin River Valley Effigy Mounds. It's by the Camas Prairie Centennial Marsh Wildlife Management Area near Hill City. There is a larger lake by the center there with smaller ponds around it. Each of the smaller ponds are about 100 meters long and wide and are in the shape of a cross (plus sign), which is one of the symbols of the Anunnaki that we see all around the planet.

    One pond shows what appears to be a bird (or corn) form and a rabbit form. It's at 43 15 55 N and 115 01 16 W -- https://www.google.com/maps/@43.2644...e3!5m2!1e1!1e4

    Most of the cross-shaped ponds are positioned north-south, east-west but two ponds are not positioned that way; they are in the shape of an "X" in relation to the four directions (which is also an Anunnaki symbol).

    "Before Anglo-European settlement, the Camas Prairie was a principal camas root gathering area and summer hunting grounds for the Native Americans of the middle Snake River region (Statham 1982). Bannock, Shoshoni, and Northern Paiute family bands were the most common tribes that congregated on the prairie in spring and early summer to hunt and dig camas bulbs." https://idfg.idaho.gov/wma/camas-pra...-marsh/history



    There are numerous other "cross" ponds around that area with images that are not as identifiable.

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    Here is a photo of a Bannock tribe member in native dress. Notice the "plus" cross and the "X" cross.



    "2.5 miles East by Southeast of Hill City Idaho. This (what Durchsince thinks is an) obvious ancient Native American site is located in what is now called the "Camas Prairie Centennial Marsh Wildlife Management Area". Geo-coordinates: 43 16 2.35 N , 115 0 37.82 W
    Dutchsinse found this location accidentally due to earthquakes striking next to it.

    "Dutchsinse viewers and himself inquired on the origins of the site, answers received are NOT satisfactory, saying "might be, or must be" "farmers paying tribute to Indians".. and other foolish excuses made for what is an obvious heritage site for Indians from North America.

    "The + shape is well known as used by Native Americans in the past, and the animal shapes speak for themselves.

    "The designation of this location as a "MARSH" wildlife preserve is a disgrace to all Native Americans, and the canal system which connects each spot is also ancient (not to be confused with truck ruts which I show in the video the difference between the canals and the truck ruts). Notice the farmers plowing the fields across the street have likely destroyed at least one of the structures (hopefully unintentionally).

    "You can also see wagon paths from the old west Wagon trail going through these structures, meaning they are older than the earliest Western settlers!

    "There are no pictures of this site which can be find, no Native American sites dedicated nearby, and certainly not at the site in question.

    "Dutchsinse suggest people of Native American heritage immediately request this land to be handed over (since its just a marsh land owned by the gov shouldn't be a big deal for them to get ownership). They deserve full access for study, and he urges tribal people to go to this preserve immediately to stand watch so no one tears these apart any more than they already have.

    "Just like we would protect the Cahokia Mounds, these shapes and lakes/ canals need to be studied, preserved, and celebrated.

    Dutchsinse hopes what he found helps, and if what he found has already been discovered, or if it turns out to NOT be Native American, Dutchsince said: "I am sorry .. I don't believe the government for many reasons... the response of "farmers dedicating it to Indians" just didn't sit right with me."

    "Update from Dutchsince:
    "It is confirmed! these animal shapes MATCH THE ANIMAL SHAPES IN WISCONSIN proved to be Native American mounds!!!! Especially the buffalo, rabbit, and bird (corn) shapes!

    "BOTH the Wisconsin Mounds (with the rabbit, buffalo and bird / corn shapes) as well as the Idaho mounds (with the rabbit, buffalo and bird / corn shapes).... BOTH ARE ON THE SAME EXACT LATITUDE down to a 10th of a point!"
    https://ufosightingshotspot.blogspot...iscovered.html

    This is another person's take on the ponds and images.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXJA-y6oBxE&t=1165s
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    You might find Dutch's other recent discovery, STARFORTS, to be of interest.
    See:
    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...=1#post1527418 (the first video)
    and:
    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...=1#post1529295

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    Quote Posted by onawah (here)
    You might find Dutch's other recent discovery, STARFORTS, to be of interest.
    See:
    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...=1#post1527418 (the first video)
    and:
    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...=1#post1529295
    What is a "STARFORT"? I couldn't find where Dutchsinse actually defined what it was. He talked about triangular one in Russia but it was very vague.

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    Apologies, I messed up when I posted that video from Dutch, but I went back and corrected it.
    (Thanks for bringing that to my attention.)
    He credited Paul Cook for bringing starforts to his attention and referenced this youtube address: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTe...tytCMsU1DQ7Wsg
    for him, which gives a good explanation of what starforts are.
    Also see:
    https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q...orts&FORM=VDRE

    Quote Posted by TrumanCash (here)
    Quote Posted by onawah (here)
    You might find Dutch's other recent discovery, STARFORTS, to be of interest.
    See:
    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...=1#post1527418 (the first video)
    and:
    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...=1#post1529295
    What is a "STARFORT"? I couldn't find where Dutchsinse actually defined what it was. He talked about triangular one in Russia but it was very vague.
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    Quote Posted by onawah (here)
    Apologies, I messed up when I posted that video from Dutch, but I went back and corrected it.
    (Thanks for bringing that to my attention.)
    He credited Paul Cook for bringing starforts to his attention and referenced this youtube address: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTe...tytCMsU1DQ7Wsg
    for him, which gives a good explanation of what starforts are.
    Also see:
    https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q...orts&FORM=VDRE

    Quote Posted by TrumanCash (here)
    Quote Posted by onawah (here)
    You might find Dutch's other recent discovery, STARFORTS, to be of interest.
    See:
    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...=1#post1527418 (the first video)
    and:
    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...=1#post1529295
    What is a "STARFORT"? I couldn't find where Dutchsinse actually defined what it was. He talked about triangular one in Russia but it was very vague.
    Those two links are not connecting with anything about starforts. I did find this video about Paul Cook's starforts and they are about layouts of cities and forts, not like what Dutchsinse is indicating. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tkIvnoiwYc

    I still have not found where Dutchsinse defines what his idea of "starforts" are because he is showing vaguely defined areas that he claims are somehow significant. Nature itself creates designs in the form of polygons, crystals, etc, so is he assuming that these vaguely defined areas have some relevance to stars, ETs, ancient civilizations, or....?

    So why doesn't he define what a "starfort" is? I don't see enough data to clearly establish what he is claiming.

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    The Bing address has videos from Paul Cook where he discusses what he thinks Starforts are.
    I don't think Dutchsinse has discussed it much yet, but what I've heard him explain is in the 2 videos from his youtube channel which I posted.
    I'm assuming Dutch is just agreeing with what Cook has surmised.
    I personally don't know anymore on the subject than that, so far, but Dutch is very excited about it.
    Here are some of the videos from Paul Cook:

    WHAT ARE STAR FORTS AND STAR CITIES IN 5 MINUTES

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    SHARE THE GRANNY OUT OF IT.. NOT FOR VIEW COUNT.. BUT TO WAKE PEOPLE UP..

    THIS IS BITE SIZE AND VERY EASY TO UNDERSTAND"



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    WHY SO MANY CAVE HOUSES: STARFORT SPECIAL
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    "👀A LOOK AT THE STAR FORT IN VALLETTA AND MY MALTESE HOME TOWN OF FLORIANA.. ABSOLUTE MEGALITHIC CONSTRUCTION OVER 1.2 MILES LONG AND HALF A MILE WIDE... CYMATIC FREQUENCY PATTERN OF A STAR FORT.. I WILL BE SHOWING YOU HOW MANY CAVE HOUSES OR APARTMENTS ARE CUT INTO THE STARFORTS OF MALTA.. WAS THEY DONE WHEN THE STARFORTS ARE MADE? IS IT A REAL REASON TO CALL IT A STAR CITY? IT SEEMS TO ME THE STARFORTS/CITIES WERE LIKE THE HANGING GARDENS OF BABYLON WITH THOUSANDS OF DWELLINGS... OR WAS THEY CUT OUT BY A DIFFERENT CIVILIZATION AFTER THEY WAS MADE??? WHO KNOWS.. BUT WHAT IM ABOUT TO SHOW YOU IS NOT SPOKEN ABOUT AT ALL AND THERES NOTHING ONLINE ABOUT THIS.. PLUS ITS EXCLUSIVE FOOTAGE ONLY I HAVE... PEOPLE HAVE BEEN BACK TO THESE SITES AND THEY HAVE SINCE BEEN BLOCKED UP👀 "


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