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    Default Re: Jeffrey Epstein & Ghislaine Maxwell: the whole story so far

    Jeffrey Epstein Flight Manifest – here
    Jeffery Epstein’s Little Black Book – here
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    • Rachel Maddow Flashback, Ghislaine Maxwell Guilty Verdict, YouTube Censors Me & Media Flip-Flops!
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    Default Re: Jeffrey Epstein & Ghislaine Maxwell: the whole story so far

    I wonder if this is anyway related to the CNN issues currently (rampant pedo issues apparently??)



    I mean, these circles seem to include a lot of "media" and "entertainment" types....
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    Quote Posted by mizo (here)
    This is what really angers me.
    The trial is to be locked away and there will be no release of transcripts.
    No black book reveal.
    This trial is as bad as Epstein dying in jail.
    This is such a flagrant basterdization of the Justice System.
    This is the equal to jailing a street distributer of heroin thinking you are stemming the flow and or stopping the crime when we all know the street distributer will be promptly replaced and the industry itself will go on unchanged.
    This trial did nothing to halt the human trafficking empires on this planet.
    If anything it has probably emboldened them.

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    Default Re: Jeffrey Epstein & Ghislaine Maxwell: the whole story so far





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    • 'The Five' React To Speculation Ghislaine Maxwell Could 'sing Like A Canary' For Leniency:
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    Hmmmmm. How many more pictures that tell tales are there out there ?
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    • FLASHBACK: Trump Asked If Ghislaine Maxwell Will 'Turn In Powerful People,' Prince Andrew comments:



    weird in retrospective ... he may be victim of being blackmailed ... that explains his stance on alleged 100% "risk free" vaccines! (poisonous experimental gene altering injections).
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    Default Re: Jeffrey Epstein & Ghislaine Maxwell: the whole story so far

    Half a million dollars, that is how much Prince Andrew paid to Virginia Giuffre, a woman he supposedly never had sex with and hardly knew.

    Quote Document Prince Andrew claims prevents lawsuit is released
    https://www.islandpacket.com/enterta...257013097.html

    A woman who says she was sexually trafficked to Britain’s Prince Andrew by Jeffrey Epstein accepted $500,000 in 2009 to settle her lawsuit against the American millionaire and anyone else “who could have been included as a potential defendant,” according to a court record unsealed Monday.
    Story continues at: https://www.islandpacket.com/enterta...257013097.html

    ---[Edit 5 January]---

    Just noticed this thread on Prince Andrew. For more info on his and his interest in young sex slaves go to:

    Prince Andrew and the under-age 'sex slave': The Epstein Scandell, Pres. Clinton and others in his 'Black' book..
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    Good counter perspective articulated here:



    also a bit terrifyingly accurate on the "human take" of the whole situation.
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    Quote Posted by PurpleLama (here)
    haven't cross referenced, but if all this **** is true (and given the creator's pervious history and credentials I think it is true) this **** all put together like this is just insane... I hope this video gets out there... but it's already demonetized and I'm SURE it will be "shadow banned" etc..
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    Default Re: Jeffrey Epstein & Ghislaine Maxwell: the whole story so far

    JP is one of my favorite satirists, comedians, commentators....
    He clearly gets the crimes and hypocrisies of those public, yet shadowy characters over to us much better than many commentators do.

    I not surprised when the outhouse platformers, social platformers(?) try to do that demon thing to him. Sorry I get the two confused, demon-ized him, demon-netted him, demon-i-fried......tried to defund him.

    Which of course is a funny thing, using demons and demonettes to try to stop his insightful videos. I now understand why his clothes are often torn to shreds. Very cool dude...

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    Default Re: Jeffrey Epstein & Ghislaine Maxwell: the whole story so far

    Dershowitz and Lady (cough) Rothschild. Could it be any more obvious?


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    • The Dark Web Around Epstein- Amazing Polly's Brilliant Analysis in less than 5 minutes:
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    • The Dark Web Around Epstein- Amazing Polly's Brilliant Analysis in less than 5 minutes:
    I'm watching going "getting warmer, getting warmer, oh, colder, now a bit......, oh bugger,.... old intellectuals ? "

    She can't know much about old intellectuals, because if she did she would know that they were strangely enough also into black occult practices & sexual depravity. Start with GE Moore.....

    I think Dark Journalist has a FAR better take on what was going on there. You only have to look at pictures of the bizarre buildings there to know he's on the money.

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    • The Dark Web Around Epstein- Amazing Polly's Brilliant Analysis in less than 5 minutes:

    I'm watching going "getting warmer, getting warmer, oh, colder, now a bit......, oh bugger,.... old intellectuals ? "

    She can't know much about old intellectuals, because if she did she would know that they were strangely enough also into black occult practices & sexual depravity. Start with GE Moore.....

    I think Dark Journalist has a FAR better take on what was going on there. You only have to look at pictures of the bizarre buildings there to know he's on the money.
    I think she meant the "Founding Fathers" of USA I guess ... respecting & appreciating the Bill of Rights & The US Constitution ... That level of intellectuals.
    • But I dig what you mean ... I had similar thoughts.
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    Jeffrey Epstein ‘brought EIGHT young women into White House to meet Bill Clinton and posed at podium’

    Katie Davis 4:23 ET, Jan 14 2022
    Updated: 7:49 ET, Jan 14 2022

    https://www.the-sun.com/news/4460920...-bill-clinton/


    PAEDOPHILE Jeffrey Epstein allegedly brought eight women into the White House to meet Bill Clinton, according to unearthed visitor logs.

    During the ex-President's first three years in office, records show the disgraced financier - who killed himself in 2019 - visited the Washington DC residence at least 17 times and posed for pictures at the briefing podium.

    But it's understood he wasn't always alone, as logs obtained by the Daily Mail reportedly show he was joined by eight different women between 1993 and 1995 - including four known to be his girlfriends.

    Pictures Epstein kept hanging at his Palm Beach mansion included snaps of him posing at the White House briefing room podium.

    In one, he stood beside a brunette woman and another, apparently from a different date, showed him next to a blonde woman.

    The images kept in his massage room closet were revealed in a video taken by cops who raided his home in 2005.

    Logs show he took four girlfriends including Celina Midelfart, then 21, Eva Andersson-Dubin, then 33, and his madam Ghislaine Maxwell, then 32, to the White House.

    Ms Andersson-Dubin testified at Maxwell's sex-trafficking trial, where she confirmed she and Epstein dated on and off from about 1983 until 1990 or 1991.

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    The remarkable lengths taken to whitewash Bill Clinton's cosy links to pervert Jeffrey Epstein when Hillary ran for President

    • Epstein's lawyer Darren Indyke tried to get workers to declare they had not seen former president Bill Clinton visiting the disgraced financier's 'Paedo Island'

    • Miles and Cathy Alexander received the email during ill-fated Hillary Clinton's 2016 presidential run which she lost to Donald Trump

    By Stephen Wright and Richard Pendlebury for the Daily Mail
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...President.html
    Published: 17:06 EST, 16 January 2022 | Updated: 22:01 EST, 16 January 2022



    The email came out of the blue one day in 2016. Almost a decade had passed since Miles and Cathy Alexander had left their jobs as residential managers of Little St James, Jeffrey Epstein's private island in the Caribbean.

    Since then, Epstein had been jailed — briefly — for paedophile offences and the couple had retired to their native South Africa.

    But now Darren Indyke, the disgraced tycoon's attorney, was back in touch. The lawyer wanted the Alexanders to do something that would be of particular benefit to Hillary Clinton and her campaign to become the first female President of the United States, later that year.

    It entailed them signing a sworn affidavit — which Indyke had already drafted for them — declaring they had never seen Senator Clinton's husband, President Bill Clinton, at their former home: 'Paedo Island', as it had come to be known. Whether or not the once-most powerful man in the world had set foot on a 78-acre speck in the U.S. Virgin Islands almost two decades ago says much about the toxicity of what is alleged to have happened there.

    And that depraved hedonism is set to be examined in detail in court later this year after Prince Andrew failed last week in his attempt to have a civil sex assault action brought against him by Epstein's former underage 'slave', Virginia Roberts, thrown out.

    Roberts has alleged that the Duke of York 'sexually abused her [Roberts, now known as Giuffre] on Epstein's private island in the U.S. Virgin Islands, Little St James'. (In a landmark investigation into the duke in late 2020, the Mail proved that he had been on the island at the same time as Roberts in early 2001.)

    She has also claimed she met Clinton on the island and saw him in the company of two 'young girls'.

    Both men deny Roberts's allegations. Clinton, whose presidency almost ended over his affair with White House intern Monica Lewinsky, denies ever being on Little St James or having knowledge of Epstein's crimes. The president and the prince's baleful involvement with Epstein is down to one woman — Ghislaine Maxwell. The subsequent damage to their reputations largely rests on the word of another — Roberts. But what is undisputed is that both men criss-crossed the world on Epstein's jets, receiving hospitality from the financier's young female staff.

    Whether that hospitality strayed into sexual favours is still unknown. In Andrew's case, his relationship with Epstein and Maxwell has now resulted in a dispute that could land, with potentially catastrophic consequences for the Royal Family, in a U.S. court of law.

    That possibility of legal fall-out is what Epstein, who died in his prison cell in 2019, had tried to head off. Today, the Mail can reveal how he used his go-to attorney, Indyke, to protect famous male friends who must have followed the recent trial of Epstein's ex-lover Maxwell with more than a passing interest.

    Arguably the two most gilded members of that circle were Clinton and Andrew. Both relationships with Epstein are said to have been launched and developed by Ghislaine Maxwell, that supreme networker —now a convicted paedophile pimp and trafficker. Today, the Mail investigates the associations between these three men.

    The White House logs and disputed flights

    Official logs of visitors to the White House during Clinton's first term as president indicate that Democrat donor Epstein was a trusted associate. He visited the White House at least 17 times between 1993 and 1995.

    Yet the tycoon's access to the president took other forms. Epstein's 'little black book' of contacts contained several email addresses and no fewer than 21 telephone numbers for Clinton. A bizarre portrait of the president — wearing a blue cocktail dress and red high heels — even hung in Epstein's Manhattan townhouse.

    Clinton appeared as a passenger on flight logs for Epstein's fleet of aircraft no less than 26 times between February 2002 and November 2003. One of Epstein's pilots, David Rodgers, gave a deposition in 2016 as part of a defamation case that Roberts brought against Maxwell. In his testimony he referred to his pilot's log book entries. They seemed to indicate that on at least two occasions Rodgers had flown Clinton and the duke in one of Epstein's aircraft.

    The pilot added that in February 2002, on a flight from Miami to New York on the Boeing known as the 'Lolita Express', his passengers had included Clinton, four Secret Service agents, Epstein, Maxwell and 'Prince Andrew'. Rodgers added: 'I have a picture of me and the crew with Bill Clinton on the plane . . . To the best of my knowledge it was the first time that we had flown him'.

    He said in July 2002 he had flown from Morocco to New York with Epstein, Maxwell, Prince Andrew, Clinton, Doug Band (Clinton's right-hand man) and 'probably nine Secret Service people' aboard.

    These two examples of Clinton and Andrew flying together should be treated with caution. The Mail has checked the court circulars and local media reports for both dates and the evidence suggests the prince was probably not on these Epstein flights.

    It is possible Rodgers misread the initials 'AP' on the flight logs as 'Andrew, Prince'. Epstein's chef, Adam Perry Lang, had similar initials. That said, the pilot did not think it impossible the president and the prince were fellow travellers, even if not on those occasions. During this period Clinton also appeared in a Rodgers flight log as a passenger on an Epstein plane from Europe to North America.

    Such journeys brought more to worry about than just a large carbon footprint. When the tycoon was charged with fresh paedophile offences in 2019, Clinton's office issued this statement: 'In 2002 and 2003, President Clinton took a total of four trips on Jeffrey Epstein's airplane: one to Europe, one to Asia and two to Africa, which included stops in connection with the work of the Clinton Foundation.'

    One of the trips to Africa saw Epstein — whose Gratitude America charity donated to the Clinton Foundation, IRS records show — travelling with Clinton and the disgraced actor Kevin Spacey. The double Oscar-winner subsequently saw his career ended over multiple allegations of sexual assault against boys and young men.

    Also present on the trip was Chauntae Davies, who was recruited aged 21 as an Epstein masseuse by Maxwell. She was pictured giving Clinton a neck massage during the trip and has said that the former president behaved correctly towards her.

    She recently told the Mail that she had been repeatedly raped by Epstein and he and Maxwell had 'destroyed' her life. The first rape took place on Little St James, she claimed. After the Africa trip, Clinton's office issued this statement: 'Jeffrey is both a highly successful financier and a committed philanthropist. I especially appreciated his insights and generosity.'

    Chelsea Clinton's Wedding Day

    Epstein was first investigated for paedophile abuse in 2006 and jailed for 18 months in 2008, as result of a now-infamous plea deal. Legal documents have suggested Clinton's trips on his aircraft 'suddenly stopped' before this. But his family's close contact with Epstein's circle did not.

    In 2010 Maxwell was even invited to the wedding of Chelsea Clinton. In Vanity Fair in 2020, Clinton's former aide Doug Band said he had 'instructed Clinton's staff in 2011 to bar Ms Maxwell from events'. But 'Ghislaine had access to yachts and nice homes. Chelsea needed that,' Band added.

    Epstein's network of influence was on public display once again in October 2013 when Hillary Clinton was given the Chatham House Award for services to diplomacy. It was presented to her at a lavish event at Banqueting House by her husband's fellow Lolita Express passenger, the Duke of York. Small world.

    The Billionaire Boys' Club

    Which brings us back to Little St James (LSJ). In April 2011 Roberts had a telephone conversation with one of her lawyers, Jack Scarola. The recorded transcript later became legal evidence. The relevant passage is worth reproducing in full.

    Virginia Roberts: [Epstein] told me a long time ago that everyone owes him favours. They're all in each other's pockets.

    JS: When you say you asked him why is Bill Clinton here, where was 'here'?

    VR: On the island.

    JS: When you were present with Epstein and Bill Clinton on the island, who else was there?

    VR: Ghislaine . . . and there were two young girls that I could identify. I never really knew them well, anyways. It was just two girls from New York.

    JS: And they were all staying at Jeffrey's house on the island, including Bill Clinton?

    VR: That is correct.

    Later that year, after giving her first media interview, Roberts began writing a memoir. The working title for the manuscript was The Billionaire Boys' Club. It has also since become legal evidence.

    In the memoir Roberts made a number of serious allegations. The most sensational were that she had been pressured to have sex with Andrew on three occasions, twice when she was under the age of consent. She wrote: 'The next big dinner party on the island had another significant guest . . . Sitting across the table from us was Bill [Clinton] with two lovely girls who were visiting from New York. Bill's wife Hillary's absence from the night made it easy for his apparent provocative cheeky side to come out.

    'Teasing the girls on either side of him with playful pokes and brassy comments, there was no modesty between any of them.'

    Roberts continued: '[After dinner,] Jeffrey wanted his evening massage before bed . . . leaving our guest of honour to find company elsewhere. Strolling into the darkness with two beautiful girls around either arm, Bill seemed content to retire for the evening.'

    The insinuation is clear. And Doug Band told Vanity Fair that Clinton had gone to Epstein's island in 2003. Steve Scully, an IT engineer, also told a Netflix documentary that he had seen Clinton with Epstein on the island.

    But Clinton denies ever having been there. In legal papers Maxwell also called Roberts's claims of Clinton on LSJ a 'fabrication'.

    Roberts's account of what happened on LSJ is marred by inconsistencies. While her legal depositions allege sexual assault by Andrew during an orgy on the island, there is no mention of such a sensational incident in the manuscript of her memoir. Why?

    Andrew and the island estate managers

    The Mail has spoken to a number of former Epstein employees on LSJ. Miles and Cathy Alexander managed the island from 1999 to 2007. They declined to speak to us, but former colleagues and sources close to them did.

    The Alexanders recall witnessing two of the duke's visits to the island, during one of which he was in the company of a 'busty blonde'. He had also visited just before they were appointed.

    They told friends they had never seen orgies or anything else untoward on the island, but they were told never to disturb Epstein in his bedroom and they took their holidays away from LSJ. One of those absences was in April 2001, when Andrew was present as the same time as Roberts.

    The Alexanders said some of the female visitors looked 'young'. But only one was ever known by them to be legally underage. She was a French model accompanied by a chaperone and had a letter of authority from her parents allowing her to travel.

    In 2006 when the first FBI investigation into him began, Epstein told the Alexanders that he was a victim of 'entrapment'. They resigned from working for him the following year. But not before an incident that with hindsight has grown in significance. The Mail can reveal it here.

    The Lawyer Darren Indyke

    Indyke worked for Epstein for two decades and oversaw his businesses and charitable foundations. He has also acted as executor of his estate. The Mail was told that in the final months of Epstein's employment — and during the first criminal investigation — Mr Alexander was summoned by Indyke to meet him on St Thomas, the nearest large island to LSJ.

    The estate manager was asked to bring with him all the arrival and departure records for LSJ, which were kept in official log books. These ledgers were handed to Indyke by Mr Alexander, who never saw them again. Why did this happen? Presumably the records would have contained names of Epstein's VIP friends and girls by whom the tycoon liked to be surrounded. Wasn't that evidence? Where are the records now?

    When Indyke contacted the Alexanders again in 2016, the motives were more clear. 'Both were asked to confirm that to the best of their knowledge Clinton had never visited during their tenure and they were not aware of him having been a guest during any absences from the island, for example for holidays,' said a source.

    Indyke set out the words which he wanted to be sworn under oath by the Alexanders. 'It was during the 2016 presidential campaign which was won by Trump,' the source explained. 'There was a worry that the link between Epstein and Clinton and in particular the island could be used against Hillary.'

    The Mail understands that the Alexanders told friends they had not in fact seen the former president or his family on the island — contradicting Roberts's claims.

    Mr Alexander slightly reworded the affidavit before he and his wife signed it in the presence of a notary in South Africa.

    Last night a spokesman for Epstein's attorney told the Mail: 'Mr Indyke was one of many lawyers at multiple law firms that performed legal services for Mr Epstein. Rules of professional conduct prevent him from commenting on private legal matters.'

    Indyke has his own trouble. The U.S. Virgin Islands Attorney General has lodged a civil complaint against him and co-executor Richard Kahn that alleges the two were 'indispensable captains' of Epstein's sex-trafficking operations. It also accuses them of helping the financier in three sham marriages and flying a string of victims to LSJ before 2017.

    Lawyers for another of Epstein's alleged victims have twice tried unsuccessfully to depose Indyke. The civil case was put on hold pending the outcome of Maxwell's criminal trial.

    In his capacity as an administrator, Indyke has also been named as a defendant in 30 lawsuits filed by women against Epstein's estate.

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