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    It’s precisely because I research that I understand theirs more to the Zionist narrative than most people imagine. The Zionists of the American Deep State have their puppet masters in the city of London. There’s a book called Jewish and Israelite Kingdoms by Paul Levy. Levy was raised by a member of the Sassoon family, one the top families in Babylonian Talmudic Jewry. The Levy book is very interesting, not only does it have a 200 year chronological plan for the greater Israel project, it also looks at who the 12 tribes of Israel are. It’s s good book, high production value, well written content. One glaring omission, which is that there’s not a single Caucasian person in the entire book. The planned 12 tribes of Israel will adhere to the Kalergi plan if the Zionists have their way.
    I wasn't talking about this in that great of detail, Jayke, you obviously know much more than i do about the history and details, i was just talking about the deplorable forein policy of this particular nation state. They rape pillage and plunder, at will, with zero consequence, just as we do, just as the saudis do, and we make DAMN sure both are armed to the teeth to do so.



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    Might want to keep that in mind when considering all the political theatre at the US southern border. Is Trump moving the Zionist plan forward or is he throwing spanner’s in the works to slow it down? Perhaps your expertise in Zionism could answer that?
    Lets talk about that southern border. Why is there such a problem in the first place with people compelled to flee there home countrys? Might it be the continual efforts of good ole uncle sam down there in our "back yard" constantly meddling in their affairs? Stirring up trouble, doing coups, creating strife and conflict, that sort of thing?

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    Dr Steve Turley, ultra right wing?

    He’s a classical liberal conservative, he literally teaches classical education, classical music. His wife is Japanese and he has multi-racial kids. He’s an Orthodox Christian with traditional values that tracks conservative trends.

    The ultra right wing, Dr Steve Turley, and his master race family of half cast kids!
    i dont see what's so gosh dern funny about that Jayke lol. I watched that video and, i may as well have been listening to rush friggin limbaugh. I saw no impartiality there what- so- ever. He was preaching to his choir, same old us vs them, the far left libs do it too.

    I didn't say he was a wite supremacist ffs, i said he was ultra right wing, and he is still imo, same as in Sean Hannity or FOX News. I see about as much "liberal" in his conservative as the names already mentioned, or i'll add to the similarities of so called "liberal" conservatives as Trump, Q, or or John Bolten. If we agree to disagree, thats fine.

    Heres his web site, someone please point out anything "liberal" about his christian conservatism. And look, for the record i dont think being conservative, or even far right wing, is a bad thing, same with far left, think as thou will. But i will still call a spotted 50 pound dog, a spotted 50 pound dog.
    https://www.turleytalks.com/

    He has a beautiful family by the way.
    Don’t worry, I’m not laughing at you. If you type “ultra right wing” into google, the images that come back are full-on, face-tattooed, beyond Neo-Nazi hooligans. The thought of Steve Turley being a pied piper with his classical guitar skills leading the march of fascism is a juxtaposition of concepts I find highly amusing.


    Dr Turley is a classic liberal conservative, in the traditional sense of the term, rather than the subjective skewed perception that’s been pushed by the mockingbird media.
    Quote Classical liberalism is a political ideology and a branch of liberalism which advocates civil liberties under the rule of law with an emphasis on economic freedom. Closely related to economic liberalism, it developed in the early 19th century, building on ideas from the previous century as a response to urbanisation and to the Industrial Revolution in Europe and the United States.[1][2][3] Notable individuals whose ideas contributed to classical liberalism include John Locke,[4] Jean-Baptiste Say, Thomas Robert Malthus and David Ricardo. It drew on the classical economic ideas espoused by Adam Smith in Book One of The Wealth of Nations and on a belief in natural law,[5] utilitarianism[6] and progress.[7] The term classical liberalism has often been applied in retrospect to distinguish earlier 19th-century liberalism from social liberalism.[8]
    The beginning of wisdom is to call things by their right names” - Confucius (the rectification of names)

    As to your other points. I did mention already that the Zionists in control of the American Deep State are based in The City of London. The planned destruction of the western world, and the rise of the greater Israel project don’t originate in the White House. It originates in the UN, which is an institutionalised construct to legitimate the mercentalistic tendencies of the British East India Trading company after World War 2. I did write a deeper analysis of this point in the Q anon thread last year if you care to look into it further.

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    I reckon that depends on what you mean by "follow",and what you mean by "historic". I follow internet memes to study how manipulation and herding happens, especialy this latest one that is actually now going mainstream but, i dont know how historic they are. Do you feel that q is a historic event Ratszinger? Are you rooting for it, or just following it?
    I'm fascinated by it. Quite honestly Q presents more I agree with than what I hear in any of the mainstream news sites or reps on the left standing for most of what I simply don't agree with and to me Q represents more of the mindset of people when I grew up in the 60's. I'm comfortable with that. My wife is, my family is. It's more in line with my own thinking, that conservative leaning but only moderately. It's more meek, less in your face pushing value systems in you against your will. I mean don't get me wrong. It's not that I don't recognize the conservative mindset in and of itself is a program that people grew up with but that's just it. Q rejects the new programming from my perspective and while Q is more extreme right than me it represents more than the other side for my tastes personally so yes I'm hoping that mindset with or without Q survives and wins out. I know from living it that a stronger conservative life would be doable and for me much easier than a socialistic, no borders, kill full term baby killing for their organs life even with the problems associated with the far right.
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    Its a shame we're kind of being herded toward one extreme or the other when, both sides could meet in the middle somewhere and work things out, like in a marriage. Not everyone on the left wants open borders or to abort babies after birth and, not everyone on the right wants to keep our prisons full or continue engaging the latest boogie man in endless war. Just a couple of for instances.

    One thing i see glaringly lacking inQ, is, imo, no mind set to try and bridge any gaps between well meaning people who just happen to strongly disagree on certain core issues, quite the opposite actually. I dont think us vs them historicaly ends well.

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    Quote Posted by Gracy May (here)
    Its a shame we're kind of being herded toward one extreme or the other when, both sides could meet in the middle somewhere and work things out, like in a marriage. Not everyone on the left wants open borders or to abort babies after birth and, not everyone on the right wants to keep our prisons full or continue engaging the latest boogie man in endless war. Just a couple of for instances.

    One thing i see glaringly lacking inQ, is, imo, no mind set to try and bridge any gaps between well meaning people who just happen to strongly disagree on certain core issues, quite the opposite actually. I dont think us vs them historicaly ends well.
    You're right on there! We've known they have been fomenting a divide for some time. I know of for instances but in my own family for example, which is mostly all democrat even though they disagree with many of the things democrats stand for, they still support it and vote that way. Not all certainly but more than enough just don't want to look at the facts because it's too painful but they still vote that way even after family tells them sour facts.. My family is like many other hypocrites out there condemning anyone they hear of having an abortion but at the same time they voted it in each time. While what you say is true about Q not meeting in the middle, which I agree, he or she or they have said many times, "NO DEALS" so we know there is no negotiation left just divide getting worse by the week really. However while I agree with you on Q lets not lose sight of the fact the left won't meet in the middle either. When this gets violent I fully expect that the left will be the ones to start if off. They are always the ones going to 'peaceful protests' and flipping cars, or blocking highways but beating and kicking to dent or injure by broken glass when you resist. I expect that those behind the Q phenom figured out there was no deals on the left a long time ago. I mean if the left wins they fully intend to lock DJT up once out of office.
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    No, i should have made clear the left is not going to budge either. The left would be foolish to fully engage this in the streets with antifa type bulls**t because they would be obliterated on that particulr battlefield. What i want to see, and be part of is, the battlefield of ideas. No street battles, no masses of "the others" being frog marched off to gitmo.

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    I reckon this would be my next logical question, i asked it earlier but, got lost in all the hubub. I'm all ears, haven't heard any logical excuses for the following yet,

    i know it's the washpo, but that doesn't change the documentation, it doesn't make it fake news.


    Is this ok? It sure looks to this ole country gal that, hes a gettin his politico power trip rocks off on this, and makes no attempt to abort no matter what else he may say. Is there anything that Trump could do that the die hard q fan may frown upon? Does any q fan see this as even the least bit historically dangerous? If i'm missing something here more than happy to be corrected.

    To me, he did not look the least bit displeased, he did not speak up quickly and, to boot, waited with perfecto politicians timing for the chant to die off on it's own before resuming.

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    Trump disavowed the send her back chants.
    Quote "I was not happy with it. I disagree with it," Mr Trump said of the chant.
    He did not elaborate on what he disagreed with.
    "It was quite a chant and I felt a little bit badly about it," Mr Trump told reporters on Thursday. "I started speaking very quickly but it started up rather fast, as you probably noticed."
    The modern day brown shirts are antifa.



    Trumps base might get riled up and carried away at rallies, but they’re not of the temperament to carry that onto the streets and start rounding people up like the Nazis rounded up Jews. The neocons couldn’t get public support for attacks on Iran, there’s no appetite in Trumps base for war, or other such Nazi type activities.

    Hitlers Nationalist-Socialist movement took advantage of the level 5-6 character archetypes. Trumps base and Q followers are predominantly level 7 types. You could call it a national-populist movement rather than national-socialist movement.

    Level 7 people are aggressive when attacking ideas, but largely pacifist when it comes to attacking people physically in person. So no, based on an understanding of the different character archetypes being galvanised at the moment, there’s no fear that society will regress to the 1940’s mindset.

    Even Antifa are too few and far between to cause any major, long-term concern.

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    If all we are going to do is look for faults and actions that we frown upon we would be tied up all day everyday focused on both parties because they both have faults and both these groups are composed of human beings that stumble. I put myself in Trump's place and I don't have any better suggestion for what to do there in that instance. Trump spoke out about it when he could. What exactly did you expect him to do wield his magic wand and hush the crowd of chanters? Timing was necessary as the crowd roar grew and the heat of the moment, he is shooting from the hip anyway cause I understand his teleprompter keeps being shut off. I don't see anything to be critical about over Trump here.

    The crowd read and heard what the news media said and reacted to this and mostly its a reaction due to false reporting of what Trump said because the news broadcasts what they thought they heard him say often reading between the lines severely but missing what he said. As usual I might add. Trump clarified his statement and said he didn't like the chant. That means very little to you apparently but it's that bias to where you naturally lean doing that it's not your candidate. If it was you'd be more forgiving of it and then his statement would mean something.

    Hillary can call blacks super predators and clarify it the next day and all the fans laugh. With Donald over the same subject of race they don't laugh they stay serious and unforgiving. Like you with Trump basically. I don't care for a lot about Trump but I can take him far easier than any candidate I see trying to be prez here in the running. I wouldn't vote for any one of the current democrats. That has nothing to do with Trump though. So yes I recognize I have bias too but that is key to being honest with yourself and in what you write. I'm at peace with how I feel about Q, Trump, and all the LEFTY players.
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    Trump disavowed the send her back chants.
    Yes Jayke, he can disavow all he wants, but, the footage of him just standing there reveling in the chant til it dies off speaks for itself.

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    What exactly did you expect him to do wield his magic wand and hush the crowd of chanters? Timing was necessary as the crowd roar grew and the heat of the moment, he is shooting from the hip anyway cause I understand his teleprompter keeps being shut off.
    Simply put? Yes, he could have stopped that if he wanted to. He didnt want to. Shooting from the hip is what he does best.


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    The crowd read and heard what the news media said and reacted to this and mostly its a reaction due to false reporting of what Trump said because the news broadcasts what they thought they heard him say often reading between the lines severely but missing what he said.
    Just me to you here i'm not talking about the media, i only watch them for sport to keep up on how they spread disinformation. I look at what the players say, and do, not what mockingbird media tells me to think about what i see and hear. This is what i saw leading up to this. The crowd one upped him by leaving out "then come back"

    Quote Why don’t they go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came. Then come back and show us how....
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    That means very little to you apparently but it's that bias to where you naturally lean doing that it's not your candidate.
    What makes you think you know which way i lean Ratszinger?Because Hillary isnt front and center as president for me to critique and question why we have to be at war with Russia? Or any of the further damage her and her faction of "the family" would be causing?

    Hey listen, everythings good here and i got my answer. I see an unsetling trend here, and y'all see things are okay. And that's okay we can agree to disagree, ain't nuttin but a thang as we say here round this neck of the woods. Thanks to you and Jayke for chiming in.

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    I lost 5 friends in 9-11. So when someone says "Some people did something" I do not hold their ideology in high regard.
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    Quote Posted by Valerie Villars (here)
    I don't understand how reading a thread on a forum makes me part of a cult. I read many threads and many opinions. I don't think I'm special or rigid in my thinking and I especially don't think anyone should be telling me what is good for me. I have to figure that out for myself, the same as anyone with half a brain.
    Holy cow Valerie, that's what this Q business is starting to insinuate isn't it! Maybe some people think PA is like a cult too, and some of them might be right.

    I smoke cigarettes, and no amount of nagging at me is going to get me to stop. IMO, the only way to stop smoking is to want to stop.

    We know cigarettes are bad for us though, so I'll use my stupid nail painting example again. If I want to paint my stupid fingernails and glue things onto them, that's MY prerogative - and if people don't like it - they don't have to look at them

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    I lost 5 friends in 9-11. So when someone says "Some people did something" I do not hold their ideology in high regard.
    Send her back then?

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    Redundant. Point has been made.
    Last edited by AutumnW; 25th July 2019 at 18:48.

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    The hard right is hyper focused on atrocities against children. I am sure this has become a Qanon focus as well. It is also part of a well established pattern of atrocity propaganda. Doesn't mean kids aren't being abused somewhere at any given time, but it is SO ramped up by the hard right and emerging neo-Nazi militarists and their campaigns I have to wonder if it is part of the program.

    "Lurid tales purporting to unveil Jewish atrocities against Christians were widespread during the Middle Ages.[17] The charge against Jews of kidnapping and murdering Christian children to consume their blood during Passover became known as blood libel.[1"

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atrocity_propaganda

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    Here's a little thought experiment. Nobody reading this has to agree or disagree, it's just a thought I had last night.

    What if there is a strong Christian fundamentalist contingent within the U.S military who wants to implement martial law at some point. Unfortunately for them they are up against a heavily armed population increasingly hostile to authority.

    Say you are a general, one of a few who has tasked military intelligence to help change up the dynamics to soften the ground beforehand. How does military intelligence respond? You want the armed populace to believe that the soldiers marching down their streets are there to liberate children and round up pedophiles. That would work. Who'd interfere with that programme....if they believed that was the case.

    Those who have never placed much stock in atrocity propaganda, can see through it...but they aren't a problem because most of them don't have guns!

    Of course I think there is a possibility that this is actually happening. And if it is, it's a beautiful thing, from a trickster perspective. It is SO easy to dupe people.

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    I lost 5 friends in 9-11. So when someone says "Some people did something" I do not hold their ideology in high regard.
    Send her back then?
    There are no winners in this verbal bout between Trump and Omar.

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    MGray,

    Didn't Omar merely draw comparisons between the ramp up of war in Iraq to what is currently happening in Iran? I believe she has also been accused of anti-semitism when her beef is with Israel's current government. I am not certain this is what you mean though. Has she made remarks that can be easily refuted or are radically out of line?

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    Quote Posted by AutumnW (here)
    MGray,

    Didn't Omar merely draw comparisons between the ramp up of war in Iraq to what is currently happening in Iran? I believe she has also been accused of anti-semitism when her beef is with Israel's current government. I am not certain this is what you mean though. Has she made remarks that can be easily refuted or are radically out of line?
    Please see her 911 comment and the interview response on Twitter link above.
    If you feel these are not are radically out of line, then we can just leave this conversation where it stands and agree to disagree.
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    mgray, the link doesn't work for me.
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    Radically out of line, hands down. I tried to find the full interview but couldn't, just on the off chance that in between the splicing some context was missed whereas possibly she was being sarcastic in letting white people see how it feels to hear they need to be profiled.

    If anyone knows where it is pls post. In the meantime, i'll stick with totally unacceptable.

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