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    Lightbulb No Qanon Accountability? Here is why ...

    Lyran.Sun [quote]: "Okay broski I wanna bring forward some matters to you. You already know the far left globalist are going mental on their various agendas alongside implementing their transhumanist agenda. They run social media & will retaliate to anyone who opposes their narrative. I suspect you are now on gangstalking blacklisted target list. If you are giving yourself a public image & reputation on activist work such as opposing 5G setups. They will mark you as a potential threat. Its always better to use an anonymous identity in activist work. If you are aggressive in your approach they will counter it ruthlessly. There is the counter operative white hats who are higher authority to the globalist. There are the various factions of light masons. If you want to solve issues directly with them. Setup a diplomatic sit down with either the white hats or light masons & discuss the matters. That is a better solution. Hope you consider my suggestions. Safe." [unquote]

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    @Lyran.Sun I do not feel the need to compromise nor to be "diplomatic" to assumed "white moles" or "white masons" or "white insiders" or "white hats" when it is obvious all smoke & mirrors + quicksand + minefield.

    Just using my own intuition aka unbound creative mind which is endless I do not mind having set-backs, as I always get help one way or the other ... because for any action there is an equal reaction (cosmic law).
    • No need to "play a role" to master "the game" that is played, If I did I lose contact with my true-self that is beyond their (loop-hole) rules & (artificial) boundaries.
    "Perception Wars" can only be won if you have contact with the "neutral observer" awareness that is beyond any duality thinking and is always effortless if you let go 100% of all fears ... Because of my Near Death Experience ... I do not need any beLIEve system to operate on this Earth anymore. I fear no death, is part of letting go of mass conditioning that is programmed in to all of us.

    Inspiring all kinds of insiders questioning their own "role play" within the corrupt system, because am beyond "diplomatic", beyond fear based compromises.

    No need to be nice to anyone, because that is a mind trap. You are actually not helping people "playing nice" if you feel you are actually cover up what you really think or feel but helping the system by "playing nice" all the time.

    Sure I can get things done being anonymous, but at the same time many can hijack my identity as well, posing as me spreading dis-info. Which is even easier when you work via fake names to begin with. Anonymous network like "Qanon" etc. can not be held accountable because there are always 1000 excuses to hide yourself from if you chose to be a part of that system of thinking. No big deal. So obvious to me.

    I rather want see the real deal directly! Sure it is "fascinating" & sometimes perfectly makes sense, but still it can easily be hijacked by abusers anytime anyplace.

    The growth of Alternative Media (Video & Social Media) platforms is growing much much faster than you think!

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    Default Re: No Qanon Accountability? Here is why ...

    Is Anonymity A Benefit To The Internet, Or Does It Actively Make It WORSE??
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    Default Re: No Qanon Accountability? Here is why ...

    delete it all.
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    Default Re: No Qanon Accountability? Here is why ...

    Quote Posted by Kamikaze (here)
    delete it all.
    are you being sarcastic?


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    I just saw you edited many of your own P.A. posts/comments stating "delete all" ... maybe you were upset about something or someone!
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    Default Re: No Qanon Accountability? Here is why ...

    • BREAKING: Alex Jones Exposes The True History of ‘Q’
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    Default Re: No Qanon Accountability? Here is why ...

    To tout this Alex Jones content as the last word on Q shows a total lack of knowledge of events at the time when Corsi and Jones got involved with subverting and profiting off of the Q process, likely as a Mossad op, imho.

    https://www.neonrevolt.com/2018/05/0...rywhere-qanon/

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    Corsi, A Rockefeller, Mossad, and B’nai B’rith. #MISINFO Everywhere! #QAnon
    May 5, 2018 by Neon Revolt
    As a general rule, I try not to get involved in criticizing other individuals who may be trying to their work in a similar sphere – albeit in a different manner from the way I choose to pursue things.

    As a general rule, I don’t “follow” anyone (save, for perhaps Q himself – for very good reasons). I try to listen to others, and give others the benefit of the doubt, but I’m not beholden to anyone. The only thing I really care about is getting to the truth and making sure evil gets choked out in my country and around the world (which is why, at times, I can come off as “abrasive” to some – especially when I’m calling out disinfo).

    But I was still very disturbed when I saw this today:



    Uh-huh.

    Riiiiiiight.

    So just to be clear, Corsi is claiming to posses special knowledge here. Knowledge which just so happens to have been uncovered the day after Q warns everyone to be careful who they follow.

    He continued:

    < more at link >

    So the picture starts to become clearer:

    Ties to B’nai B’rith.
    Mossad connections.
    And now Q calling out disinfo agents, as Corsi simultaneously tries to make the claim that Q has been compromised
    – even though those of us who use imageboards like 8ch regularly know that that is such a remote and distant possibility as to be impossible.

    Personally, I would disregard anything coming from Corsi immediately. I know many were helped by some of his decodes, but it’s my opinion that he’s just not reliable.

    It certainly doesn’t help his case that he’s going to be charging for “premium content” on his Gab channel. What’s he going to do? Charge for screenshots of anons’ decodes? The sad part is, there are plenty of people who would probably pay for it.
    ////////////////////////////

    Quote Brian Cates - Political Columnist ★★★
    👆👆👆😳😂 Alex Jones and INFOWARS started the Q movement? HA HA HA HA

    He could come onto Truth Social and watch Devin and the mods there have fun with Q memes along with Kash Patel and Dan Scavino.

    Are those the guys that 'took it over'?


    /////////////////////

    Quote Forwarded from Jordan Sather

    In Alex Jones “True History about Q” video he put out yesterday, he essentially claims credit for starting the Q movement. Here’s a clip.

    He also claims “Q was only legit for about a month and then it got taken over”.

    That is fake news. Goes to note some of the people trying to take Q over were Infowars affiliated like Alex Jones and Jerome Corsi.


    We’re not stupid, you InfoClowns.

    Quote Jordan Sather
    Oh my gosh this Alex Jones video on “The Truth about Q” is SO TERRIBLE - AJ is such a blubbering walrus. I was trying to write a Substack article on this but there’s so much bull**** in it I think it needs to be covered in video form

    Jordan Sather
    I was the one who brought the Q topic to Infowar’s audience on November 25th 2017. They invited me onto Owen Shroyer’s War Room podcast with him and Roger Stone. After I did that show, Infowars & Alex Jones started running with the Q subject like they thought it was legit (along with Jerome Corsi), yet they inserted their own B.S. into the mix as well. Who remembers the fake insider Jones brought on called “Zach” and David Seaman’s shenanignans? (Infowars had Seaman on a few times). Insert & infiltrate. I was invited back onto the War Room podcast two subsequent times, but not to discuss Q. They had me talk about the Secret Space Program (Jan ’18) topic for one, and Big Tech Censorship for another (Feb ’18). They knew they couldn’t control me when I sniffed out some of Infowars B.S. around the “Release the Memo” saga (IW claimed the had received an advanced copy of one of those Mueller memos, fake).

    Infowars has been an advanced (or not) controlled opposition outfit for years running and have had a variety of psy-ops run through them. Study them enough and it becomes pretty clear how they run their charades.


    It’s not about Alex Jones being jealous of Q.

    This is about a proxy intelligence war.

    Handlers of Infowars (MOS? C_A?) vs the team who handles operation Q (NSA? MIL? White hats?).

    Obvi Trump was apart of Q (Q+), so if these folks are against Q are they also against Trump?

    ///

    SAther

    Q post 1340 on May 11 2018 (almost a 4 year delta, dasting)

    It detailed how Corsi/Infowars tried to run psy-ops and subvert Q. (I have a neat feature in it)

    It has since been censored off of Reddit, but here’s an archive link if you want to read it:


    https://web.archive.org/web/20180511...nst_q_and_how/)

    Quote Q’s first days were not easy. At all. Immediately after his first posts on October 2017, a violent information war was launched against him to ridicule him and silence him. All sorts of vicious information war techniques were used against him. I will show you some of them in this post. Q stoically stood still and after 3 months, despite this info-war against him, his audience grew to the point the phenomenon could not be ignored anymore. On December 08 2017, Infowars resorts to inviting Jordan Sather from Destroy the Illusion to talk about Q. Even though Jordan’s main field of expertise is secret space programs, free energy and the like he has been following Q on his YT channel and has done an excellent job bridging Q with the masses. When Jordan is invited by Infowars, we can see how proud he is: [tweet] (https://web.archive.org/web/20180511191025/https://twitter.com/Jordan_Sather_/status/939206347928698880).

    Let’s listen to Jordan and Roger Stone’s conversation until 6:40: [video] (https://web.archive.org/web/20180511191025/https://youtu.be/iLOveorNUB4?t=215).

    Did you catch what Roger Stone is implying? This is the first info-war technique I want to show you. Stone is an old fox, he knows all the subtle communication techniques used in information warfare to swing people’s opinion and spread confusion. He knows how the subconscious mind works and how it makes an association between a skillfully asked question and its implied response. For clarity, here is Roger Stone’s question: Img1

    You see it now? He is implying and subtly instilling in people’s mind through his timed and insidious question that the Q phenomenon Jordan has described may just be bots or humans hired to limit Infowars’ reach and cut them off from those who follow them. This is Roger Stone essentially saying: “Infowars is a shareholder in the election of the President and we will not accept to lose the leverage we have because of some bot playing on 8chan”. You think it’s far-fetched? Bear with me…

    December 24 2017. For the first time Alex Jones talks about Q. At last. It’s been 3 months! You can find the entire video [here] (https://web.archive.org/web/20180511191025/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6BXPFZjK2s) so nobody can accuse me of taking things out of context. Let’s listen to him from 0:54 to 1:56. [video] (https://web.archive.org/web/20180511191025/https://youtu.be/K6BXPFZjK2s?t=53).

    As you can see, Jones starts with Q but immediately shuts him down by saying this: Img2 This information warfare technique is used to zero or reduce the relevancy of the subject: you name the subject (Q), then you immediately replace him in people’s mind by talking about another person (Zak) with praises and hypertrophy. Then Jones goes into a long verbal journey about Zak, the color of the moon and other irrelevant subjects, beating around the bush, preparing, preparing, until he could finally throw this at his audience (watch until 8:46) [video] (https://web.archive.org/web/20180511191025/https://youtu.be/K6BXPFZjK2s?t=430).

    There are 2 techniques used here. The first one is [Downgrading] (https://web.archive.org/web/20180511191025/https://i.imgur.com/z4ueO91.png). Alex claims to know who Q is, where he get his info, Q is not really high level… secondarily… That technique is pretty straightforward.

    Did you catch the second one? At 8:19 he says: “so they want to take Trump out in November, but we dodged it, and people go: look Q anon is not right, it didn’t happen”.

    Q never said Trump was going to be taken out on November. Alex Jones did. You see how he did it: he lied, then he attributed the lie to Q, then he defends him. This is another information warfare technique consisting of artificially victimizing someone in order to pull his base. You push someone through the balcony, you take the stairs to catch him and then pay for his funeral…

    But it gets better:

    January 5 2018. Alex Jones invites Zak. The YT video title is “High Level Intelligence Source Confirms QAnon Is REAL”. You can watch the [entire video] (https://web.archive.org/web/20180511191025/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmnBywq8zR8) later. It’s a 23 minute video. Despite the title, Q is not mentioned any single time except at the 10th minute when Alex says the following; let’s listen until 11:15: [video] (https://web.archive.org/web/20180511191025/https://youtu.be/tmnBywq8zR8?t=636) .

    If you take a look at [this composition] (https://web.archive.org/web/20180511191025/https://i.imgur.com/5SynTxC.png), you realize Alex has obviously explored Q’s board. He is ridiculing him and asking people to hold on to Zak, his “real Q Anon” who is not a “LARP” acting in “Fantasy Land”. Unlike Q, his beloved Zak is acting in the “real world”. Sounds familiar? Yes… He is echoing his friend Roger Stone! They both talked about it and both have agreed their communication strategy was to convince Q is not real, he’s a bot or a hired human LARPING on 8Chan. Of course this strategy has to be implemented covertly in order not to risk any backlash from their audience that may have been following Q. Hence all these sneaky communication and manipulation techniques. After this vicious attack, Alex will never mention Q throughout the interview again. Those who are familiar with subliminal messages understand why the title did not have anything to do with the interview. The title was aiming at subliminally planting in people’s brains: ”The real QAnon is Zak”.

    The next day, commenting on Zak’s interview, Owen Shroyer airs a segment titled: “Infowars Own #QAnon Discusses Deep State” Img.

    Need I say more? You see the problem now?

    On January 27 2018, Infowars invites Jordan Sather for the second time. Despite the attacks, Q’s movement has grown exponentially so we are hoping to hear Jordan’s update on the Q phenomenon. Well, here is the [entire video] (https://web.archive.org/web/20180511191025/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oK6zi-6X2_0). There is not a single word about Q. Infowars invited him to talk about secret space programs. Not Q. Why is Infowars putting Jordan in the “Secret Space Program” drawer. Why? I will tell you. So that this can happen the next day: Img

    Infowars positions Dr. Corsi to be the in-house Q guy. Alex Jones has now realized he could not crush the Q phenomenon. He tried to confuse us, ridicule Q, downgrade him and replace him with Zak, didn’t work. So… If you can’t fight them, join them. Dr. Corsi, the Infowars Washington Correspondent is now missioned by Alex to lead the containment strategy and infiltrate Q. Notice the title: “What is QAnon?”. Not who. Again, the bot/LARP theory. But there is worse, did you catch it? Let’s zoom, look: Imgur.

    We clearly read on Infowars YT channel:“Dr. Jerome Corsi reveals what QAnon is and how it will be used against the people.“ What do you think this is? Error? No. This is a subliminal message folks. Your eyes will not notice it but your brain sees it. Once this particular message is processed by the subconscious mind, the conscious mind starts to develop defense mechanisms against Q and his message. Welcome to the info wars against Q! It has been Infowars against Q all along. MSM fights Q by trying to ignore him, Infowars fights Q by trying to crash him. Wake up.

    Now question: why do you think Alex did not use Jordan instead? Why didn’t he try to hijack Jordan’s base instead of starting from scratch with Corsi? Answer: because of this: Img. 4 days before, during the [Infowars Fisa Memo debacle] (https://web.archive.org/web/20180511191025/https://www.weeklystandard.com/holmes-lybrand/fact-check-did-infowars-release-the-secret-fisa-memo), Jordan showed his independence with this [tweet] (https://web.archive.org/web/20180511191025/https://twitter.com/Jordan_Sather_/status/955970371018108930). Alex Jones realized he was not controllable. Jordan is a real truth fighter. This is why Infowars invited him 3 days after this tweet to talk about what he likes and forget Q. Classic bait & control tactics. Once this bait was offered to Jordan, he could then position Dr. Corsi who would do what he is told about Q. Why? Because of this: Img

    Dr. Corsi’s YT channel was dead. His last video was published on 2014 and had 2,2k views. As the inactive Infowars DC correspondent who is invited from time to time on Infowars, Dr. Corsi is a vulnerable asset Jones can use to deal with the Q problem. He instructs him to start commenting on Q and to progressively build his crowd based on a business model that will not link him to Infowars. Perfect bone for an inactive asset. How do I know? Let’s listen to the following until 1:25: [video] (https://web.archive.org/web/20180511191025/https://youtu.be/mcL3XKy0I-s?t=29)

    Did you catch it? “a number of people who I consider to be very important to me said you’d better start looking at this”. How does that sound to you? “you’d better start looking at this”. You think it is a professional advice? Now that we know what we know, we know it's not. This is Alex essentially telling him: I tried to contain this thing, didn’t work, you’d better get in and take control remotely for us before it gets out of hands. This is how we got Corsi my friends. It has never been about decoding, it has always been about containing. Dr. Corsi is the Infowars Trojan horse sent to the Q Movement. And in exchange of this work, Jones is capitalizing on his vulnerability by allowing him to do his little business. Does Corsi know Jones’ endgame? I don’t believe so. I think he is just being manipulated by someone more intelligent. You know why? Because the next day, on the Hagmman Report, this is what he says, let’s listen carefully until 2:22: [video] (https://web.archive.org/web/20180511191025/https://youtu.be/Dn-nsXSFkls?t=65)

    So here the version slightly changes: he decided he would dig into the Q phenomenon after Trump’s executive order. It’s no longer “a number of people who I consider to be very important to me said you’d better start looking at this”. Now it’s about trump’s Executive Order. Why is the version changing? You got it: Alex told him he made a mistake at Tracy’s interview. He needed to change the story so Alex could remain invisible, working in the shadow. This corrected discrepancy is proof Corsi is just a pawn.

    Now let’s take a look at his Youtube and Twitter stats: Img Img

    As you can see, Dr. Corsis’s current notoriety has everything to do with Q. His book was published on March 2018 and you see there is no significant change on the curves at that date. So Dr. Corsi has successfully conducted his mission: infiltrate Q’s base and build a substantial number of followers he can now manipulate according to Alex’s instructions.

    Now the relevant question would be: is Dr. Corsi loyal to Q? I have the answer. I will give it to you.

    Do you remember Alex’s rant on Syria? I will not provide links because it was a dark moment for alternative media. Those who read Q knew all along what was going on in Syria, you may explore my posts about it. Events proved Alex was way off in his assessment of the situation and we are therefore entitled to question the relevancy of his “high level sources”. When asked about Alex’s meltdown, this is Corsis’s response, let’s listen until 4:40 [video] (https://web.archive.org/web/20180511191025/https://youtu.be/Z7fQwczsks8?t=147)

    Now let’s analyze:

    “Alex has his own way of doing things, he doesn’t really need my approval to do it, and I don’t… you know…” Corsi stops after “and I don’t” and looks for his words. Now question: what do you think was the natural ending of this sentence? You got it: he was about to say: “and I don’t need his approval either”. But he could not say it because he knows it’s not true and, as a vulnerable asset in Alex’s mighty hands, he did not want to risk upsetting his boss with a little independence displayed in a YT interview.

    The other important sentence is this one: “The real strength of Alex is he’s the most disruptive media to the MSM that exists worldwide and as such he has tremendous impact.”

    The only reason Alex was able to disrupt MSM was because of privileged intel he had right? People came to him to know what the Mockingbird MSM would not disclose right? But then, as early as October 29th 2017, Q said this:

    Q12 Military Intelligence ref above is the absolute biggest inside drop this board will ever receive.

    Then, a few months later, he says this:

    Q761 This board has more power than you can imagine. Q
    Q768 This board in the coming months will be spread & discussed across ALL PLATFORMS.

    You see the problem? Q has been and still is an existential threat to Infowars. As simple as that. Alex Jones has done everything he could to shut down this phenomenon.

    “I don’t criticize Alex. I try to understand where he’s going and I try to appreciate it.” “I still greatly admire what Alex does and would never criticize him or offer advice or opinions unless he specifically asked and then I would be happy to share that privately with him.”

    Okay… It seems Corsi has beautiful manners. Now let’s listen to what he thinks about Q. I have already shared with you in my [previous post] (https://web.archive.org/web/20180511191025/https://www.reddit.com/r/greatawakening/comments/8hqo5n/q1315_trumps_tweet_confirms_the_q_5_photo_puzzle/?st=jgz6twag&sh=0dceaa85) how he ridiculed him even though he had no clue what Q was saying. But there is more here, let’s listen until 5:35 [video] (https://web.archive.org/web/20180511191025/https://youtu.be/wR-97KGaiq4?t=307).

    “Q is in disinformation”… “I started trashing Q“… “I was ready to quit this board all together and do it myself, and that is seriously under consideration by the way”.

    Whaaaaaaat?!

    So there you have it. Corsi would never criticize mighty Alex but Q? Oh no! Q is to be trashed and even replaced! Replaced? You see? We went full circle…

    Corsi would never advise Alex unless he was asked to and he would do it privately but Q? And Trump? Go listen to a few of his Youtube videos: Corsi tells them what to do with Mueller, Sessions, Iran… He knows exactly what to do on pretty much everything…

    Corsi even forgets the hand that fed him and dares to make threats: “and that is seriously under consideration by the way”.

    Yes… now that you have infiltrated our Movement, fed off of some of its crowd (check the stats above), you can get out with the hijacked goods the silence the anons (the real ones) have given you all these months out of respect, patiently putting up with your limitations and constant disrespect towards Trump and Q. You should have finished the mean and revealing sentence you have started (did you catch it?): “As far as I am concerned, Q has served…”. Watch the video again. Unbelievable. I hope to shortly see the memes of the side by side statements of Q, Jones and Corsi. This long post has given you the material to produce them. This post is based on facts. Real facts. It was not aiming at anything else except presenting verifiable facts so that people know who is who and what the motivations of each actor are.

    The final issue that needs to be addressed is the idea of a cult that has been agitated by Alex and Corsi. Those who follow Q are not in a cult. Q is given the respect he deserves because he is risking his life to give us the intel MSM or Infowars will not give us. Who told us about Saudi Arabia before it happened? Who told us Trump was in Las Vegas? Who told us the real reason behind the steel price issue? Who told us about Flynn it would be done in 30? Yes, Q delivered here too but Corsi failed to decode it correctly. And the list goes on… Q is listened to because we have proof he is right next to Trump, the President we elected to clean up the mess and save our children. People did not vote for Infowars, they voted for Trump. So you’ll have to accept it if they drop you without hesitation should you express any kind of opposition.

    Now that things are clarified, I think I will never have to write about Infowars, Alex Jones and Corsi again. We are busy. We have things to do.

    Q1296 You decide. This is not a game. The only profit we should all be striving for is TRUE FREEDOM. God bless you all. Q





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    The lefty propaganda rag view of how all this played out here

    https://www.mediamatters.org/alex-jones/infowars-attempt-hijack-and-exploit-wild-conspiracy-theory-qanon-backfiring

    Quote Infowars’ attempt to hijack and exploit the wild conspiracy theory that is QAnon is backfiring
    Alex Jones fed a growing monster. Now the monster is trying to eat him.

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    PUBLISHED 05/15/18 4:17 PM EDT
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    Quote To tout this Alex Jones content as the last word on Q shows a total lack of knowledge of events at the time when Corsi and Jones got involved with subverting and profiting off of the Q process, likely as a Mossad op, imho.
    Thank you Mt Jim. I agree Alex Jones reputation is hugely dubious. But not to worry about Q, soon the final pieces on the chess board will be in place. The end of global tyranny and the biggest sting operation in the World will be over and we will all see it. So many of the digital warriors are saying this so I'm not alone. All Q ever was is a messenger. But future proves past and we are running out of conspiracy stories that end up being true.
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