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    I'm just an 'angel' in a human body right now. (And so is everyone reading this thread! )
    That's an interesting perspective, Bill. How do you back it up?

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    Well, some of this is all about what each of us might consider an 'angel' to be.

    My view, which is very clear to me, is that we're talking about non-physical spiritual beings. But then we're non-physical spiritual beings ourselves — and we just happen to be 'driving' physical bodies in the physical universe. (And that can be a lot of fun. It's like a different kind of playground.)

    So for me, the only difference between an 'angel' and you or me is that we have physical bodies right now, but an 'angel' doesn't. And the other aspect to all this is that 'angels' are usually bestowed with great benevolence. But then, many humans (though not all!) are like that, too.

    My conclusion? There's not always a lot of difference. In my personal view, ascribing miraculous events solely to angels is rather like denying our own power.

    Why would we do that?? Discuss!

    I have a great experience related to this, "We are all angels"

    Back when i was like 12, i rejected my religion and went on my own, this caused me to get expelled from my house and ended up living with my grand parents until they passed away, almost 10 years ago <3

    But anyway, my experience is such

    I was minding my own watching tv some afternoon and then i feel asleep, this was a very deep sleep and i suddenly opened my eyes and was in a wooden boat inside of it, and there was some kind of entity in front of me, it was heavy and evil and i could sense something very wrong about it, i could not 'see it' but sense it instead, and it approached me when the thing noticed me there

    The next thing that i remember is that i raised my hand out of fear and yelled "stop!" and something else i said which i can't remember stopped this thing right there, in front of me. And i had my 'hand' raised, i could not see any 'hand' by the way, it was like invisible to me the same as that thing that was in front of me. But i could sense that my hand had stopped it and it was like a boundary between the thing and me

    And at that point, i suddenly felt something like i have never felt before, it was a fear that made me shake all over my entire body and soul, it was like dead crawling all over, like dark and sad and something like a smell of somthing dead, it was terrible and so strong that i felt my knees trembling so hard i could not stop it

    That thing, whatever it was, was reaching from very far but i could sense it approaching and i could not move out of fear. Then the thing landed behind me and the only thing i can remember after it was that i felt someone else next to me and i remember looking up and it was this extremely tall person that looked translucent and giant, strong and slim. I remember i said, 'hold on there's something bad here but i'll kick them out' and it just simply walked around me and stood in front and told me 'don't worry i'm here with your' or something like that

    There was a very weird repetitive noise going all around, like a drum getting hit over and over with this very weird rhythm, like a chant of sorts and i could not move but i could sense the darkness all around and a funny powerful feeling, and i know that as the sound that initially was far away and got close to us, this person, the slim tall translucent guy stood in front of me and i was feeling safe and strong but also aware and all powerful on my own

    Then it was like something very big hit and i fell back, then i woke up on bed and that crazy feeling did not go away for days

    So yes, i think we are all 'Angels' in several ways, some kind of asleep but still being what we are

    I have other experiences but as usual it is a personal thing, so "how to prove it" is an impossible thing, for real :/
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    I once discussed this whole issue in depth with a highly experienced spiritual counselor, one of the very very best. I shared some of the interesting things that had happened to me, including quite a number of 'miraculous' escapes* from death or injury.
    * See this thread:
    I shouldn't actually be alive now... :)

    She was adamant. "You're belittling and diminishing your own power", she said. "It wasn't any external help. YOU did all that. YOU did it, yourself."

    I later became convinced she was correct.
    This interview with Joe Dispenza covers finding our power as well as earth events and reactions to them. He has had great results teaching people how to go beyond the mind..beyond the character and Be instead of think. He has had people being healed of "incurable" disease simply through finding their inner source and expressing gratitude. And yes..it is about dropping our belief systems that get in the way of pure Beingness. It is also about bringing this state into all we do.
    Here is the link.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJ_mIChHt_8

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    I forgot to mention (hence the edit) that Joe has invisible beings working with him which appear to be doing healings on certain people. He does not call them angels.
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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
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    I'm just an 'angel' in a human body right now. (And so is everyone reading this thread! )
    That's an interesting perspective, Bill. How do you back it up?

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    Well, some of this is all about what each of us might consider an 'angel' to be.

    My view, which is very clear to me, is that we're talking about non-physical spiritual beings. But then we're non-physical spiritual beings ourselves — and we just happen to be 'driving' physical bodies in the physical universe. (And that can be a lot of fun. It's like a different kind of playground.)

    So for me, the only difference between an 'angel' and you or me is that we have physical bodies right now, but an 'angel' doesn't. And the other aspect to all this is that 'angels' are usually bestowed with great benevolence. But then, many humans (though not all!) are like that, too.

    My conclusion? There's not always a lot of difference. In my personal view, ascribing miraculous events solely to angels is rather like denying our own power.

    Why would we do that?? Discuss!
    I sometimes think that the fallen angels story from the bible is actually about us. When we are "up there", we are all perfect and nice and spiritual, like Angels. But when we fell down, into these bodies, we've become quite different, many of us are acting like real "demons" on this world.

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    I also believe that there are some positive entities assisting us, helping and protecting, but I find it hard to believe that they would assist us in trivial things. I mean, come on, why would some super powerful entity waste his time and energy to assist us in some completely irrelevant things like casino, parking etc. (sorry guys).

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    Quote Posted by wnlight (here)
    Angels are not limited.
    The story states that a human can foray into the darkness, falter, fall from grace, transgress however one wants to put it and at some point see the light and repent.
    Someting an angel CANNOT do! A fact that is lost with most humans. Sadly.


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    Some call it God, others talk of angels. Since I wasn’t brought up with any religion, I’ve always called it ‘the Big Me’ who understands, forgives and protects little me. As a young child I spoke with Big, told my little sins and we laughed about them together. I’ve always felt it as being a part of Me.

    In times of danger or feeling uncomfortable I’ll ask Big for protection. So when I travel by plane, Big’s big hands carry the plane safely to my destination and driving on a road with much traffic or in bad weather the hands are there.

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    Quote Posted by Star Tsar (here)
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    Angels are not limited.
    The story states that a human can foray into the darkness, falter, fall from grace, transgress however one wants to put and at some point see the light and repent.
    Someting an angel CANNOT do! A fact that is lost with most humans. Sadly.


    However the human history is full of lies and mistakes, there is nothing on it that can say "We are not angels" and show proof for it

    So you said "Someting an angel CANNOT do! A fact that is lost with most humans. Sadly." But this has been decided by humans already, how so? Under what actual proof and knowledge about it?
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    Quote Posted by Mashika (here)
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    Angels are not limited.
    The story states that a human can foray into the darkness, falter, fall from grace, transgress however one wants to put it and at some point see the light and repent.
    Someting an angel CANNOT do! A fact that is lost with most humans. Sadly.


    However the human history is full of lies and mistakes, there is nothing on it that can say "We are not angels" and show proof for it

    So you said "Someting an angel CANNOT do! A fact that is lost with most humans. Sadly." But this has been decided by humans already, how so? Under what actual proof and knowledge about it?
    Decided by the story Dearest Mashika!

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    @Bill, “My conclusion? There's not always a lot of difference. In my personal view, ascribing miraculous events solely to angels is rather like denying our own power.”

    There is a lot of truth in what you write, Bill, but I have had 53 years to dissect and analyze my aircraft near-colission ‘lesson’. [posted earlier] At the time, I understood the physics of the situation, yet had only 12 hours of flying time to my name. I had not developed the necessary skills to do that maneuver. Amazingly, I accomplished it with precision and grace. Or did I?

    Let me throw another one to you, Bill. Actually, you have already heard this one. It was 1976 and I was walking down the Kaibab trail in the Grand Canyon. Somehow, I had gotten way ahead of my two companions. So I stopped at a nice viewpoint to let them catch up. I could look straight down to the Colorado river about 2000 feet below. Suddenly a strong gust of wind came up and pushed me forward. I was unable to stop my motion and was surely going over the edge. The 40 plus pounds in my backpack didn’t help me at all. Funny how I had plenty of time to think about my mortality. But someone behind me grabbed my pack and pulled me back on solid ground. I immediately turned around to thank him, but there was no one there! No one! I could clearly see up and down the trail, but saw no one. My companions were still out of sight. Who had pulled me away from the brink? After all these years since, I can only think it was …

    My angels made another save!

    I have kept them busy all my life. So today’s question is: Did I use my own hidden powers to save myself? My answer is: I don't think so. I was the silly idiot leaning over the edge.
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    Personally, I do not accept the fallen angels story. At least not the story told me by the Catholic Church. But, please, let's keep this thread to your first-person experiences.

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    I have no way of knowing who or what this "being" was, but he was certainly benevolent. I've told this story before.

    I was sitting outside in a park on a lovely, balmy March day. I was quite alone. It was a small park and no one else was there. I had gone through many months of extreme supernatural experiences. That particular day I was balanced, happy, grateful and had my face turned toward the sun.

    Suddenly, there was a tall, very white, angular and very thin man standing in front of me slightly to the right. I am a very aware person and this man/being had not walked up. He was not there one minute and the next he was. His skin was somewhat translucent. It seemed to be lit from within, though he had on normal pants and a button down shirt. He was painfully thin.

    He began to speak to me about how we all wear masks and other humans don't recognize who we really are. He mostly spoke in the first person about this. I asked him his name and he told me it was Blaze Star. He was as real as you or me.

    Finally, I said I had to go and he began to walk out of the park with me. Right before we got back to town, he stopped and I stopped. He said "Well, God sure has blessed you." Then he kissed me hard and quick on the mouth, looked deeply into my eyes in a very penetrating manner. He walked around the corner and completely disappeared. There was NO ONE there.

    In my mind, I call him an angel. He was there to offer comfort and somewhat of an explanation that didn't fit into my normal paradigm. I will never forget it.
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    Well, here's another interesting perspective. Take a look at this fascinating thread:
    If humans can do that, maybe they can also create parking spaces for themselves?

    It's hard to understand why an angel would bother to create parking spaces on behalf of some preferred human — which by definition, is a zero-sum game: meaning, one person wins while another loses — and not use their miraculous powers to ease or eradicate real suffering in another part of the world.

    If I had a friendly, loyal angel who (for some unexplained reason!) was always on hand to create parking spaces for me, I'd tell them: "Look, hey, thanks, but I can do this little thing myself. PLEASE go and help someone else who really needs it."


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    Maybe things work because they have been built up in the mass consciousness. I believe a lot of Mantras work like this. If enough people have a positive experience then the belief continues to grow and manifest its reality.

    I remember when I was around 4 or 5 years old. I was on my knees because I had been told to pray..it was a catholic thing. I felt arms go around me and I found them uncomfortable. I looked around and there was nothing there but the arms around me persisted. I was not alarmed or afraid. I remember a warm soft feeling envelope me and I forgot to do the imposed praying. Much much later on in my life I was meditating and suddenly myself as a child popped up before me and I involuntarily gave her a hug. Suddenly I saw that there was no time or distance and everything happening is now as it was the child praying that I hugged. It was a complete revelation.

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    I also believe that there are some positive entities assisting us, helping and protecting, but I find it hard to believe that they would assist us in trivial things. I mean, come on, why would some super powerful entity waste his time and energy to assist us in some completely irrelevant things like casino, parking etc. (sorry guys).
    If such a trivial thing serves to increase the awareness of our divine origin then it is worth its weight in gold is what I would say

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    ...

    According to Swedenborg, all angels and evil spirits are human... some angels chose to keep company and help incarnated friends in their struggles and difficulties in the recovery of their own steam power and drive which Jesus allegedly talks about when mentioning that others will do even better than he did, indicating he is not the sole proprietor of that steam power.

    It's roughly the big divide between STO and STS work that's occurring currently with the big corporations favoring the STS work in recruiting followers with - and via - big pharma, big agro, silicon valley, MIC, etc... and the poisoning of life on earth.

    It all connects to a spiritual battle for individuals' minds.


    Quote I find it hard to believe that they would assist us in trivial things. I mean, come on, why would some super powerful entity waste his time and energy to assist us in some completely irrelevant things like casino, parking etc. (sorry guys).
    It may just be a way for the ones on the other side to say "Hello!" and raise the awareness of the existence of a veil hiding those other beings who are watching over.



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    I have no way of knowing who or what this "being" was, but he was certainly benevolent. I've told this story before....


    I asked him his name and he told me it was Blaze Star. He was as real as you or me....


    In my mind, I call him an angel. He was there to offer comfort and somewhat of an explanation that didn't fit into my normal paradigm. I will never forget it.
    I find it hilarious that he would choose the name "Blaze Star." You being from the New Orleans area would certainly know that name. How weird and funny is that, that your angel would choose the name of a famous burlesque dancer!?

    You have some amazing experiences Valerie.

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    Well, here's another interesting perspective. Take a look at this fascinating thread:
    If humans can do that, maybe they can also create parking spaces for themselves?

    It's hard to understand why an angel would bother to create parking spaces on behalf of some preferred human — which by definition, is a zero-sum game: meaning, one person wins while another loses — and not use their miraculous powers to ease or eradicate real suffering in another part of the world.

    If I had a friendly, loyal angel who (for some unexplained reason!) was always on hand to create parking spaces for me, I'd tell them: "Look, hey, thanks, but I can do this little thing myself. PLEASE go and help someone else who really needs it."

    Another perspective is that angels exist out of time which makes them unlimited multi-taskers. They don’t need to factor in what’s more or less important.

    I use to do the parking space visualization. It worked. It was one of the techniques taught in The Silva Method (earlier known as Silva Mind Control). Then I got busy with other things. Now I park further away for the exercise and to avoid dents from grocery carts and other cars.

    It's the little things we practice like parking spaces that build our psy-muscles and beliefs for more dimensional possibilities. An angel or a timely samaritan helps awaken what we innately know.


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    I have been told that there are plenty of angels to go around. In other words, everyone has an angel. Also that they want you to believe in them and communicate with them. That is why they are happy to do simple things like finding a parking space. Angels will not initiate the conversation because we live on a planet of free choice. That is their only restraint. They may not even save your life if you did not ask for help. They can organize a situation that may lead you thinking of angels. This I have been told. My own experiences confirm that pretty well.

    BTW, the parking angel is not a zero-sum behavior. They will not harm someone else to give you a parking space.

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    Caliban, I thought the same thing too, when I thought about it later.

    Then as the years went on I read something about the masons and the "blazing star". It seems "they" communicate with many multiple layers of meaning. It's very complex and yet very simple in it's premise.

    There was a lot of star symbolism during that period. A shooting star was pointed out to me in such a manner that I was made to understand it was me.

    I couldn't understand at first what Earl Long's stripper girlfriend had to do with spiritual things. It seems they have a subtle sense of humor.

    "The only true currency in this bankrupt world is what we share with someone when we are uncool." From the movie "Almost Famous""l "Let yourself stand cool and composed before a million universes." Walt Whitman

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