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    What do we make of these figures?

    Quote 21 Million Fewer Cellphone Users in China May Suggest a High CCP Virus Death Toll
    BY NICOLE HAO March 22, 2020 Updated: March 26,


    The number of Chinese cellphone users dropped by 21 million in the past three months, Beijing authorities announced on March 19. Deaths due to the CCP virus may have contributed to the high number of account closings.

    Cellphones are an indispensable part of life in China.

    “The digitization level is very high in China. People can’t survive without a cellphone,” Tang Jingyuan, a U.S.-based China affairs commentator, told The Epoch Times on March 21. “Dealing with the government for pensions and social security, buying train tickets, shopping … no matter what people want to do, they are required to use cellphones.

    CCP VIRUS SPECIAL COVERAGE

    “The Chinese regime requires all Chinese to use their cellphones to generate a health code. Only with a green health code are Chinese allowed to move in China now. It’s impossible for a person to cancel his cellphone.”

    China introduced mandatory facial scans on Dec. 1, 2019, to confirm the identity of the person who registered the phone. As early as Sept. 1, 2010, China required all cellphone users to register phones with their real identification, by which the state can control people’s speech via its large-scale monitoring system.

    Furthermore, Chinese people’s bank accounts and social security accounts are bundled with their cellphone plans; apps on Chinese phones check SIM cards against the state’s database to make sure the number belongs to the user.

    Beijing first launched cellphone-based health codes on March 10. All people in China must install a cellphone app and register their personal health information. Then the app can generate a QR code, which appears in three colors, to classify the user’s health level. Red means the person has an infectious disease, yellow means the person might have one, and green means the person doesn’t.

    Beijing claimed that the health codes are intended to prevent the spread of the CCP virus, commonly known as novel coronavirus.

    China’s Ministry of Industry and Information Technology (MIIT) announced on March 19 the number of phone users in each province in February. Compared with the previous announcement, which was released on Dec. 18, 2019, for November 2019 data, both cellphone and landline users dropped dramatically. In the same period the year before, the number of users increased.

    The number of cellphone users decreased from 1.600957 billion to 1.579927 billion, a drop of 21.03 million. The number of landline users decreased from 190.83 million to 189.99 million, a drop of 840,000.

    In the previous February, the number increased. According to MIIT, the number of cellphone users increased in February 2019 from 1.5591 billion to 1.5835 billion, which is 24.37 million more. The number of landline users increased from 183.477 million to 190.118 million, which is 6.641 million more.

    According to China’s National Bureau of Statistics, the country’s population at the end of 2019 was 4.67 million larger than in 2018, reaching 1.40005 billion.

    The 2020 decrease in landline users may be due to the nationwide quarantine in February, during which small businesses were shut down. But the decrease in cellphone users can’t be explained in this way.

    According to the operation data of all three Chinese cellphone carriers, cellphone accounts increased in December 2019 but dropped steeply in 2020.

    China Mobile is the largest carrier, holding about 60 percent of the Chinese cellphone market. It reported that it gained 3.732 million more accounts in December 2019, but lost 0.862 million in January 2020 and 7.254 million in February 2020.

    China Mobile’s performance in the same months in 2019 was markedly different; it gained 2.411 million more accounts in January 2019 and 1.091 million more in February 2019.

    China Telecom is the second-largest carrier, holding about 21 percent of the market. It gained 1.18 million users in December 2019, but lost 0.43 million users in January 2020 and 5.6 million users in February 2020.

    In 2019, it gained 4.26 million in January and 2.96 million in February.

    China Unicom, which hasn’t yet published the data for February, shares the same experience as the other two telecoms in January 2020 and in early 2019. The company lost 1.186 million users in January 2020, but gained 1.962 million users in February 2019 and 2.763 million users in January 2019.

    China allows each adult to apply for at most five cellphone numbers. Since Feb. 10, the majority of Chinese students have taken online classes with a cellphone number due to their schools being ordered to stay closed. These students’ accounts are under their parents’ names, which means some parents needed to open a new cellphone account in February.

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    A vendor uses her cellphone as she waits for customers in Jiujiang, China, on March 6, 2020. (NOEL CELIS/AFP via Getty Images)
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    The big question is whether the dramatic drop in cellphone accounts reflects the account closings of those who have died due to the CCP virus.

    “It’s possible that some migrant workers had two cellphone numbers before. One is from their hometown, and the other is from the city they work in. In February, they might close the number in the city they work in because they couldn’t go there,” Tang said. Typically, migrant workers would have gone to their home city for the Chinese New Year in January, and then travel restrictions would have prevented them from returning to the city where they held a job.

    However, because there is a basic monthly fee to hold a cellphone account in China, the majority of migrant workers—the lowest income group—are likely to only have one cellphone account.

    China had 288.36 million migrant workers as of April 2019, according to the Chinese National Bureau of Statistics.

    On March 17, Meng Wei, spokesman of China’s National Development and Reform Commission, said at a monthly press conference in Beijing that except for Hubei, all provinces reported that more than 90 percent of their businesses resumed operations. In Zhejiang, Shanghai, Jiangsu, Shandong, Guangxi, and Chongqing, almost all businesses resumed production.

    If both the number of migrant workers and the level of employment are accurate, more than 90 percent of migrant workers have gone back to work.

    The economic dislocation caused by shutdowns in China may have also led some people who have an extra cellphone to cancel it. With business poor or stopped, they may not want to carry the extra expense.

    “At present, we don’t know the details of the data. If only 10 percent of the cellphone accounts were closed because the users died because of the CCP virus, the death toll would be 2 million,” Tang said.

    On March 25, a high official within MIIT, Han Xia, addressed the data point at a daily press conference.

    He claimed that the drop in cell phone accounts was partly due to businesses shutting down in February to comply with quarantine policies. These businesses closed their spare phone accounts when their operations were halted, he said.

    In addition, because telecom companies also closed down their physical stores during country-wide lockdowns, people were not able to open new accounts, Han said.

    The reported death toll in China doesn’t line up with what can otherwise be determined about the situation there.

    A comparison with the situation in Italy also suggests the Chinese death toll is significantly underreported. Italy adopted similar measures to those used by the Chinese regime. The CCP virus death toll in Italy of 4,825 translates to a death rate of 9 percent. In China, where a much larger population was exposed to the virus, the reported death toll of 3,265 translated to a death rate of only 4 percent, less than half that reported in Italy.

    Activities in the outbreak epicenter of Hubei Province seem to contradict the reported death toll in China. The seven funeral homes in the city of Wuhan were reported to be burning bodies 24 hours a day, seven days a week in late January. Hubei Province has used 40 mobile cremators, each capable of burning five tons of medical waste and bodies a day, since Feb. 16.

    Lacking data, the real death toll in China is a mystery. The cancellation of 21 million cellphones provides a data point that suggests the real number may be far higher than the official number.

    The Epoch Times refers to the novel coronavirus, which causes the disease COVID-19, as the CCP virus because the Chinese Communist Party’s coverup and mismanagement allowed the virus to spread throughout China and create a global pandemic.

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    Default Re: The Wuhan Coronavirus [Covid-19, the Honey Badger virus]

    Did any of you guys see this video of Sacha Stone? He is totally on the Q path in the total breakdown of the Deep State and the Mass Arrests. And Corona being a smokescreen for this. Now i didnt really believe this theory because i cannot see Trump as a wise man to name 1 argument but his statement got me a little bit excited.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...ature=emb_logo

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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    David Icke is a guest on Infowars today, coming up soon and half past the next hour (1.30 pm US Eastern Time). Watch here:
    The video will be posted as soon as it's uploaded. I'm losing patience with Alex these days, who (a) often has bad information and (b) often doesn't seem to understand the good information he has. (He just announced that the UK had said "the epidemic is over", a 100% misinterpretation of what was actually stated. ) But I'll look forward to hearing David, who's focused, accurate, and in good form at the moment.

    thanks for the heads up - watching it now

    OMG David and Alex are just on fire at the moment and they are both amazing in their own ways...

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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    David Icke is a guest on Infowars today, coming up soon and half past the next hour (1.30 pm US Eastern Time). Watch here:
    The video will be posted as soon as it's uploaded. I'm losing patience with Alex these days, who (a) often has bad information and (b) often doesn't seem to understand the good information he has. (He just announced that the UK had said "the epidemic is over", a 100% misinterpretation of what was actually stated. ) But I'll look forward to hearing David, who's focused, accurate, and in good form at the moment.

    thanks for the heads up - watching it now

    OMG David and Alex are just on fire at the moment and they are both amazing in their own ways...

    just while there's (yet another) break - a few minutes ago there was a quick piece with Alex dressed in some space like suit thing and the dialogue went a bit like this.... "I'll say it - they are invaders from another dimension - they're not human..."

    then bang there was this error and the transmission stopped ---- HLS.js error: networkError - fatal: true - levelLoadError.....

    it did come back if you reloaded but I felt the drama of the moment........

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    An alternative source to the Covid-19 pandemic.
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    'It is well past time to act': Governments were warned about a lethal global pandemic last year
    Will TaylorNews Reporter

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    https://uk.yahoo.com/news/coronaviru...151350101.html

    Warnings of a “rapidly moving” pandemic that the world is not prepared for were aired in a September 2019 report by a body established by the World Health Organization (WHO).

    The paper criticises governments for not implementing recommendations from the 2009 H1N1 or 2014-2016 ebola outbreaks and warned of a deadly respiratory pathogen sweeping the globe, echoing what has unfolded with coronavirus this year.

    The A World At Risk report warned it was “well past time to act” and was compiled by the Global Preparedness Management Board, a group set up by WHO and the World Bank Group in order to prepare for worldwide health emergencies.

    In its opening summary, the report states that “outbreaks have been on the rise for the past several decades and the spectre of a global health emergency looms large”.
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    “If it is true to say “what’s past is prologue”, then there is a very real threat of a rapidly moving, highly lethal pandemic of a respiratory pathogen killing 50 to 80 million people and wiping out nearly 5% of the world’s economy,” it states.

    While the coronavirus is not expected to tally anywhere near as high as the death toll written out there, the report’s warnings of inadequate preparation for a respiratory virus pandemic appear prescient today.

    The virus has swept across the world, leading countries to implement social distancing and stringent lockdowns to try stem the coronavirus’s spread and stop their healthcare systems being overwhelmed with COVID-19 patients.

    The board looked at policy responses recommended in the aftermath of past outbreaks and found they had been poorly implemented.

    “For too long, we have allowed a cycle of panic and neglect when it comes to pandemics: we ramp up efforts when there is a serious threat, then quickly forget about them when the threat subsides,” the report states.

    “It is well past time to act.”

    It made a series of recommendations, including telling governments to invest in preparedness, building strong systems to counter a pandemic and better international coordination.

    Read more: Pictures before and after lockdown

    Any chance to act on the report – which outlined milestones to be achieved by September 2020 – would have been disrupted by the coronavirus outbreak.

    Globally, there are almost 500,000 confirmed coronavirus cases and more than 20,000 people have died after being infected, according to Johns Hopkins University in the US.

    Italy and Spain have recorded the highest totals of deaths, followed by China, where the outbreak began. There were 9,529 confirmed cases in the UK and 463 patients have died as of Wednesday.

    There have also been 111,000 recoveries globally.

    Classic fear mongering
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    Default Re: The Wuhan Coronavirus [Covid-19, the Honey Badger virus]

    Quote Posted by Antagenet (here)

    100% Cure rate!
    Seems authentic.
    Hi, all: I'm lingering back here on the thread at this post. The video has been 'pulled' from youtube. Perhaps one of you has already picked up on this and it's been uploaded so ignore this observation, if that is the case.

    If not could I please ask in the nicest way possible that a little time is taken to capture the creator name and title of ALL videos, particularly when sourcing from, and posting things up from youtube.

    Thanks

    I'm clueless about this particular one because there's no information to go on
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    The over reach by governments is intolerable.


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    Default Re: The Wuhan Coronavirus [Covid-19, the Honey Badger virus]

    Here's a rather piercing comment today under Rappoport's latest (very good by the way) in response to a question, "What I can’t explain is the seemingly higher than normal use of ventilators?"

    https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2020...game/#comments


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    March 26, 2020 at 2:22 pm

    Think like a defense contractor: You got bombs ( the “smarter” the better) you gotta use em. Qui Bono? Who benefits from war…that’s right, those guys (among others when a plan REALLY comes together). In this case the medical mafia determines the standard of practice, i.e., what the technicians (doctors) are allowed to do—they can’t actually go off script or they are severely punished. The ventilators are part of that script. Plus they are expensive so more cashola is being funneled away from the mark, er, patient. Besides these are very aggressive therapies, along with the untested/ inappropriate anti-virals being used on whom? Ding, ding, ding, hand that man a kewpie doll. The most vulnerable populations— the elderly and at risk people—can’t have them clogging up the works by sticking around long enough to enjoy their hard earned benefits.

    This has the convenient effect of keeping that scary mortality rate up there, lining the pockets of the medical industry fat cats, having a miracle-of-medicine-mesmerized public secure in the knowledge that they’re getting the BEST care possible—they wouldn’t lie about this would they? Just ask the media, your local politician or someone from WHO or CDC or NIH. They’ll set you straight. Just look at all the shiny machines and tests…it’s gotta be good. Meanwhile stay in your homes while the adults rape the economy and bailout their friends (and you will actually pay for it) as you go slowly insane and pray for the day your masters let you out of your cage so you can go back to the same rigged lie of a life you know and love (except it’s much worse now). Like I said, don’t you love it when a plan comes together?

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    Does China Have an Agenda and is it Being Exposed by the Coronavirus?

    The Chinese coronavirus pandemic should serve as a figurative punch in the mouth to the Davos crowd. This pandemic spread as a result of human-to-human transmission beginning in a far-flung province in central China. As it metastasized, the World Health Organization (WHO), the United Nations-based agency on which governments around the world rely, parroted the Chinese Communist Party’s (CCP) chosen narratives, including that the Wuhan virus could not be passed from one human to another, and that it was “racist” to refer to the virus by its place of origin. We now know even at this early stage that the CCP lied and WHO covered it up.

    The chief praiser of China’s response, and propagator of its favored messages, was WHO Director-General Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus. He won that position with Chinese backing and collaborated with China as Ethiopia’s health minister. Dr Tedros, as he likes to be called (he has a PhD in community health), is a leader of Ethiopia’s brutal minority party, the Tigray People’s Liberation Front, a wing of the ruling Marxist-rooted Ethiopian People’s Revolutionary Democratic Front. He served the violently repressive regime as minister of foreign affairs from 2012 to 2016, after a stint as health minister. A puppet globalist by any definition.

    As the pandemic spread to the United States and criticism of the CCP grew, China again threatened to leverage its dominant position in the production of essential medical supplies to cut off Americans from vital equipment. It signaled that either the USA's media and politicians tow the CCP line or people will die. The Chinese Communist Party is the epitome of a true global invader and prosecutor. The more they can cripple the west the faster they can move to centre stage to make a true global power grab.  

    Country after country has watched it institutions come under attack by the globalist. Once they can undermine the credibility of these institutions they will move in with global institution to replace the ones that they damaged, weakened destroyed. For those not paying attention they will readily dispense with their current institutions for ones that will offer false hope.  The game is on and it is moving at light speed. For those paying attention, the Chinese coronavirus highlights the necessity to understand what is truly going on. Simply being aware is a huge step for many people.

    This series of events perfectly illustrates the downsides to the globalist agenda of open borders, global political institutions, and global economic integration at all costs. It perfectly illustrates the merits of an America First, nationalist agenda, including a focus on border control, national sovereignty, and eschewing of global institutions, as well as economic independence combined with truly free, fair, and reciprocal trade. Does anyone believe America would have been hit as hard by coronavirus if China were not so deeply integrated into American architecture?

    This same scenario is playing out around the globe in country after country, many don't see it because China provides the world with cheap goods, others don't want to see it because they are married to their political party but make no mistake about it there are many powerful people secretly hiding behind the curtain cheering on the global agenda. The Chinese Communist Party is a global menace. 

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    Default Re: The Wuhan Coronavirus [Covid-19, the Honey Badger virus]

    A friends husband works as a foreman in the council. He had to make a couple of trips for work today - He was stopped by the police and told his vehicle had been spotted several times and why was he out!

    So there you go.
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    Default Re: The Wuhan Coronavirus [Covid-19, the Honey Badger virus]

    Quote Posted by greybeard (here)
    A friends husband works as a foreman in the council. He had to make a couple of trips for work today - He was stopped by the police and told his vehicle had been spotted several times and why was he out!

    So there you go.
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    so it's a "soft" authoritarian lock down?

    Quote Posted by rgray222 (here)
    the World Health Organization (WHO), the United Nations-based agency on which governments around the world rely, parroted the Chinese Communist Party’s (CCP) chosen narratives, including that the Wuhan virus could not be passed from one human to another, and that it was “racist” to refer to the virus by its place of origin. We now know even at this early stage that the CCP lied and WHO covered it up.
    I have read very compelling arguments that this could END the CCP (I do not believe that will be the case however).
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    Default Re: The Wuhan Coronavirus [Covid-19, the Honey Badger virus]

    Guys I speak from personal experience, dont underestimate this, its real. I contracted the virus last week, and although I didnt require hospitalization, there was a two day period there where the virus aggressively attacked my lungs. I managed to fight it off, but my lungs are still sore. Hopefully, I won't have any permanent damage. Regardless of the fatality rate being 1%, 4% or whatever, you dont want to get this, no matter how healthy you are. The danger zone for me was quick, about 2 days, then it quickly decelerated, but it is nasty and more dangerous than any other bug ive gotten in the past. I am in my mid 40's but in better physical condition than most 20 year olds, and for a two day period, this virus put me on my ass. Take every precaution you can to not get it. If you smoke or are in a debilitated state of health, stay home. This is your life we are talking about.
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    Default Re: The Wuhan Coronavirus [Covid-19, the Honey Badger virus]

    Quote Posted by happyuk (here)
    More from the gov.uk website.

    This is what health professions are being told:

    Quote As of 21 March 2020, COVID-19 is no longer considered to be a high consequence infectious diseases (HCID) in the UK.

    The Advisory Committee on Dangerous Pathogens (ACDP) is also of the opinion that COVID-19 should no longer be classified as an HCID.
    This needs a little context. From this page:
    Definition of HCID

    In the UK, a high consequence infectious disease (HCID) is defined according to the following criteria:
    • acute infectious disease
    • typically has a high case-fatality rate
    • may not have effective prophylaxis or treatment
    • often difficult to recognise and detect rapidly
    • ability to spread in the community and within healthcare settings
    • requires an enhanced individual, population and system response to ensure it is managed effectively, efficiently and safely
    List of high consequence infectious diseases (HCIDs)
    • Argentine haemorrhagic fever (Junin virus)
    • Andes virus infection (hantavirus)
    • Bolivian haemorrhagic fever (Machupo virus)
    • Avian influenza A H7N9 and H5N1
    • Crimean Congo haemorrhagic fever (CCHF)
    • Avian influenza A H5N6 and H7N7
    • Ebola virus disease (EVD)
    • Middle East respiratory syndrome (MERS)
    • Lassa fever
    • Monkeypox
    • Lujo virus disease
    • Nipah virus infection
    • Marburg virus disease (MVD)
    • Pneumonic plague (Yersinia pestis)
    • Severe fever with thrombocytopaenia syndrome (SFTS)
    • Severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS)

    Mod note from Bill:
    I changed the timestamp of this post, which I made 24 hours ago.


    The only significance here is that Covid-19 doesn't [exactly!] fit the stated definition of an HCID. It's administrative trivla. Nothing changes on the ground

    I do genuinely understand it's hard to keep up with the thread! But part of that is because members sincerely aren't aware that a video, or an article, or a news item, has already been posted.

    In many cases, that happens multiple times, and then we're into a vicious circle with important info being increasingly hard to find. (And @Valley, the chloroquine news item was also posted quite a number of times also.)
    Last edited by Bill Ryan; 26th March 2020 at 20:28. Reason: changed the timestamp

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    Default Re: The Wuhan Coronavirus [Covid-19, the Honey Badger virus]

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    Quote Posted by Antagenet (here)

    100% Cure rate!
    Seems authentic.
    Hi, all: I'm lingering back here on the thread at this post. The video has been 'pulled' from youtube. Perhaps one of you has already picked up on this and it's been uploaded so ignore this observation, if that is the case.

    If not could I please ask in the nicest way possible that a little time is taken to capture the creator name and title of ALL videos, particularly when sourcing from, and posting things up from youtube.

    Thanks

    I'm clueless about this particular one because there's no information to go on
    I was worried about this one coming down... and actually for the safety of the doctor. It was almost too authentic. And definitely not something the Ministry of Truth would want going viral.

    Summary of the video (as I remember it):

    Hasidic doctor in Orange County NY (which is just north of NYC) estimates approximately 20,000 COVID-19 cases in his county and has treated hundreds already in his practice, all of whom recovered without requiring hospitalization after administering hydroxychloroquine and zinc to treat the virus.
    Last edited by T Smith; 26th March 2020 at 20:52.

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    Default Re: The Wuhan Coronavirus [Covid-19, the Honey Badger virus]

    Quote Posted by bearcow (here)
    Guys I speak from personal experience, dont underestimate this, its real. I contracted the virus last week, and although I didnt require hospitalization, there was a two day period there where the virus aggressively attacked my lungs. I managed to fight it off, but my lungs are still sore. Hopefully, I won't have any permanent damage. Regardless of the fatality rate being 1%, 4% or whatever, you dont want to get this, no matter how healthy you are. The danger zone for me was quick, about 2 days, then it quickly decelerated, but it is nasty and more dangerous than any other bug ive gotten in the past. I am in my mid 40's but in better physical condition than most 20 year olds, and for a two day period, this virus put me on my ass. Take every precaution you can to not get it. If you smoke or are in a debilitated state of health, stay home. This is your life we are talking about.
    Did you test positive for COVID-19? Or did you just assume you were positive based on symptoms?

    In any case, I'm happy you recovered and hope you stay well....

    Warm Regards,

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    Default Re: The Wuhan Coronavirus [Covid-19, the Honey Badger virus]

    Quote Posted by jaybee (here)
    Quote Posted by jaybee (here)
    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    David Icke is a guest on Infowars today, coming up soon and half past the next hour (1.30 pm US Eastern Time). Watch here:
    The video will be posted as soon as it's uploaded. I'm losing patience with Alex these days, who (a) often has bad information and (b) often doesn't seem to understand the good information he has. (He just announced that the UK had said "the epidemic is over", a 100% misinterpretation of what was actually stated. ) But I'll look forward to hearing David, who's focused, accurate, and in good form at the moment.

    thanks for the heads up - watching it now

    OMG David and Alex are just on fire at the moment and they are both amazing in their own ways...

    just while there's (yet another) break - a few minutes ago there was a quick piece with Alex dressed in some space like suit thing and the dialogue went a bit like this.... "I'll say it - they are invaders from another dimension - they're not human..."

    then bang there was this error and the transmission stopped ---- HLS.js error: networkError - fatal: true - levelLoadError.....

    it did come back if you reloaded but I felt the drama of the moment........

    just wanted to add a couple of things - but first - yes Alex can be annoying sometimes with his constant interrupting but he's a larger than life warrior shaman - and David is the Sage - tapping into the source - and they are both very knowledgeable on lots of 'stuff'..... and applying spirituality to political understanding - suffice to say the nitty gritty was discussed - to do with the Coronavirus and the Lockdown and as David puts it the Totalitarian Tiptoe -

    Alex said - "they are invaders from another dimension, they're not human" - David spoke about 'them' being biological AI software programs with no empathy and no soul - and that Love is the ultimate power because it raised the vibration and didn't lower it - and spoke about the demons / non humans / inter dimensional s / biological AI software programs needing to feed off the low vibration human emotion -

    I'm stating to loose my thread a bit ---- but it's to do with knowing the enemy and what was said in the Art of War about that - in a nut shell that if you don't know who your enemy is you can't win...

    A funny thing's happening with all this social distancing and self isolating - I think people are finding something deeper within themselves because they're not caught up in the usual hub bub of life and distractions - I think telepathy could be getting stronger already - while 'they' are trying to enslave us and lower the vibration to further their agenda - something else is emerging that is raising the vibration....

    it's all rather interesting -

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    Default Re: The Wuhan Coronavirus [Covid-19, the Honey Badger virus]

    Bill this is clear
    As of 19 March 2020, COVID-19 is no longer considered to be a high consequence infectious diseases (HCID) in the UK.

    The 4 nations public health HCID group made an interim recommendation in January 2020 to classify COVID-19 as an HCID. This was based on consideration of the UK HCID criteria about the virus and the disease with information available during the early stages of the outbreak. Now that more is known about COVID-19, the public health bodies in the UK have reviewed the most up to date information about COVID-19 against the UK HCID criteria. They have determined that several features have now changed; in particular, more information is available about mortality rates (low overall), and there is now greater clinical awareness and a specific and sensitive laboratory test, the availability of which continues to increase.

    The Advisory Committee on Dangerous Pathogens (ACDP) is also of the opinion that COVID-19 should no longer be classified as an HCID.


    People on the ground are not aware of this but surely the Government is
    Its a Government publication
    Respectfully

    Ps it states the mortality rate is low.
    Be kind to all life, including your own, no matter what!!

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    Default Re: The Wuhan Coronavirus [Covid-19, the Honey Badger virus]

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    Quote Posted by Tintin (here)
    Quote Posted by Antagenet (here)

    100% Cure rate!
    Seems authentic.
    Hi, all: I'm lingering back here on the thread at this post. The video has been 'pulled' from youtube. Perhaps one of you has already picked up on this and it's been uploaded so ignore this observation, if that is the case.

    If not could I please ask in the nicest way possible that a little time is taken to capture the creator name and title of ALL videos, particularly when sourcing from, and posting things up from youtube.

    Thanks

    I'm clueless about this particular one because there's no information to go on
    I was worried about this one coming down... and actually for the safety of the doctor. It was almost too authentic. And definitely not something the Ministry of Truth would want going viral.
    Do you recall anything about who made it; where; was it a cellphone video; interview; anything at all? If it's that important, and I suspect it might be, it may now be lost
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    Default Re: The Wuhan Coronavirus [Covid-19, the Honey Badger virus]

    Yes.. I edited my initial post and included some more information on the doctor

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