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    I am looking for a pointer to where I can get these questions answered.

    Mixing instructions. What ratio is used to dilute hydrogen peroxide with water?

    Can a CPAP machine function as an effective nebulizer while sleeping?

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    Quote Posted by Ron Mauer Sr (here)
    I am looking for a pointer to where I can get these questions answered.

    Mixing instructions. What ratio is used to dilute hydrogen peroxide with water?

    Can a CPAP machine function as an effective nebulizer while sleeping?
    Hi Ron - Dr. Mercola has a dilution ratio chart for hydrogen peroxide at this link, and also a video about it:
    Landmark Publication on Vitamin C for COVID-19

    I would like to know the answer about the CPAP too.
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    "Health Canada issues advisory for face masks containing graphene" https://beta.ctvnews.ca/national/hea...1_5372822.html
    Many Canadian news sources reporting the same.
    Low quality import masks from China containing graphine fibre strands,which could cause long term lung damage.
    No masks have been tested before this anywhere

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    Quote Posted by Ron Mauer Sr (here)
    What ratio is used to dilute hydrogen peroxide with water?
    Ron, there is info in the Mercola interview on this, and also in the free ebook by Dr. Levy. Dr. Levy actually suggests no dilution is required when using 3% HP, but I would definitely start out with a diluted solution, HP can burn.

    Also, it's best to dilute with a saline solution and not water, according to these guys.

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    Chlorine Dioxide is an effective treatment
    for COVID 19. This paper showed the following at 7 days.

    Fever - control - 70%, MMS group 0%
    Chills - control - 70%, MMS group 0%

    https://www.hilarispublisher.com/ope...f-covid-19.pdf

    "In conclusion, we can affirm without a doubt, based on test of
    comparison of proportions and its confidence interval, as well as the
    paired tests where we used the Wilcoxon – Mann – Whitney test (α: 95%),
    that the data in most of the variables (P < 0.05) obtained indicate that
    chlorine dioxide is effective in the treatment of COVID 19, making
    RT-PCR negative in one hundred percent of cases at 7 days, ..."
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    Critically ill people need calcifediol. I think the implications are that scripts of calcididiol are needed.

    Quote Dr. Paul Frank reviews the highlights of the New Spanish Study suggesting Hospitals should utilize Calcifediol in COVID-19 patients. He also covers why Vitamin D stops blood clotting and the cytokine storm. Briefly, the synergy of Zinc, Magnesium and Vitamin A are covered
    Vitamin D (Calcifediol) Decreases COVID-19 Deaths by 64%
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    Romanian doctor says she cures ‘100 percent’ of COVID patients

    https://www.lifesitenews.com/blogs/r...covid-patients

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    Here's the EBMC rebuttal to the European Medicines Agency's pronouncement on ivermectin published March 28th.

    Source: Rebuttal PDF

    British Ivermectin Recommendation Development Panel – Response to EMA Statement on Ivermectin for Covid-19

    The British Ivermectin Recommendation Development (BIRD) panel was set up in January 2021. by Dr Tess Lawrie of the Evidence-Based Medicine Consultancy Ltd (E-BMC), an independent medical research company based in Bath, UK

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    ... here is something that might cut it:
    4-22-2021 Live at 5 Special Tank & Lisa VAX Solutions 43:51

    Nutritional Supplement, Immune System Support: Folium pX

    https://foliumpx.com

    Folium pX, is an all-natural, liquid preparation created by master herbal scientists in a region of the former Soviet Union known for its excellence in alternative medicine.

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    Here's some really encouraging news, for a change

    More proof that Ivermectin continues to work wonders and probably not just with Covid either:

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    ...

    ... on the side of improving one's own "Terrain":

    SODIUM CHLORITE WITH DR ROBERT YOUNG, ALPA SONI 53:22


    This as a correction of a previous Charlie's show where Charlie completely confused HCQ with MMS/CDS


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    Israel finds yoghurt prevents cytokine storms:

    https://greatgameindia.com/yogurt-cy...torm-covid-19/

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    Greetings good people.

    I have lurked for years on and off here, but now is the time to speak up. I just found this thread whilst looking for solutions to what is at hand with the jab, 5G, and everything else. I'll share more completely later but first off. I want to say that i LOVE what you all are sharing, and how positively-focused you are in a sea of fear and panic.

    Here's something that I came across just now on the latest Russian research into the CV. Decide for yourself to take it on or not. I think it's worth considering to add to the arsenal!

    https://t.me/NicholasVeniamin/1815

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    One more site to add (the Bollingers' site): https://thetruthaboutvaccines.com/st...mrna-vaccines/

    Good, solid solutions.

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    Quote Posted by oombaloo333 (here)
    Greetings good people.

    I have lurked for years on and off here, but now is the time to speak up. I just found this thread whilst looking for solutions to what is at hand with the jab, 5G, and everything else. I'll share more completely later but first off. I want to say that i LOVE what you all are sharing, and how positively-focused you are in a sea of fear and panic.

    Here's something that I came across just now on the latest Russian research into the CV. Decide for yourself to take it on or not. I think it's worth considering to add to the arsenal!

    https://t.me/NicholasVeniamin/1815[COLOR="red"]

    .
    Very interesting and important info that covid is a bacterium that is exposed to EMF and creates blood clots.

    This is off topic but how did you post that from Telegram? Thanks.

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    Mod note from Bill:

    I moved the two posts immediately above from one of the 'vaccination' threads to here, as it seemed primarily to be about effective treatment — assuming Covid-19 is actually a bacterial infection, as the claimed Russian research seems to suggest.

    I do have to say that I very profoundly doubt this, or else any strong antibiotics would have worked a long time ago. And electron microscopy seems to suggest it is indeed a coronavirus very similar to the other known coronaviruses. But what the thing is isn't the topic of this thread: just how best to treat it, based on good studies.


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    I had posted this on COVID 19: Global News.... thread but this is probably a better spot for it.

    'Possible Antidote for the V-Serum and the Current Spike Protein Contagion

    History:

    From 1906, the German Bayer pharmaceutical company supplied the French bacteriologist Maurice Nicolle and the French zoologist Felix Mesnil from the Pasteur Institute with benzopurpurin dyes to be tested for trypanocidal activities . One blue benzopurpurin derivative, Trypan Blue , was found to be very effective in eliminating all trypanosomes from the blood of infected animals but as the drug stained the skin of the animals bluish it was unacceptable for use in patients . For this reason Wilhelm Roehl, a former assistant of Ehrlich who had joined the Bayer research group at Elberfeld in 1905, sought a colourless compound with trypanocidal activities. The chemists Oskar Dressel and Richard Kothe of Roehl's team synthesised derivatives of Afridol Violet , a naphthalene urea compound that was less colour-intensive but also less trypanocidal in screens carried out by Nicolle and Mesnil. Several derivatives, however, displayed better activity against trypanosomes than the parent compound. In 1917, after the synthesis and screening of more than 1000 naphthalene ureas, the breakthrough came in the form of Bayer 205 (Fig. 1 ), later named Germanin, a colourless compound that cured trypanosomiasis in both experimental animals and in humans . The Bayer Company understood the political importance of Bayer 205 for the commercial exploitation of African colonies and offered the formula of the drug to the British Government in exchange for the return of Germany's lost African territories . When the British declined the offer, the Bayer Company refused to disclose the chemical structure of the drug. Eventually, in 1924, the French pharmacist Ernest Fourneau published the structure of Bayer 205 Four years later, the Bayer Company confirmed that Fourneau's structure was identical with that of Germanin. The drug was later renamed suramin and is still in use in the therapy of early-stage T. b. rhodesiense sleeping sickness.

    parasitesandvectors.biomedcentral.com/ar....1186/1756-3305-3-15


    100 Years of SuraminABSTRACTSuramin is 100 years old and is still being used to treat the first stage of acute human sleeping sickness, caused by Trypanosoma brucei rhodesiense. Suramin is a multifunctional molecule with a wide array of potential applications, from parasitic and viral diseases to cancer, snakebite, and autism. Suramin is also an enigmatic molecule: What are its targets? How does it get into cells in the first place? Here, we provide an overview of the many different candidate targets of suramin and discuss its modes of action and routes of cellular uptake. We reason that, once the polypharmacology of suramin is understood at the molecular level, new, more specific, and less toxic molecules can be identified for the numerous potential applications of suramin.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7038244/

    I thought this presentation was very good, it talks about various subjects, metabolism, mitochondria, genetics and the use of this medication for autism. I also think it's important for those who live in California because they are researching polluting markers in their blood that may lead to autism.

    Suramin Inhibits SARS-CoV-2 Infection in Cell Culture by Interfering with Early Steps of the Replication Cycle.

    Abstract:
    The severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) pandemic that originated in Wuhan, China, in December 2019 has impacted public health, society, the global economy, and the daily lives of billions of people in an unprecedented manner. There are currently no specific registered antiviral drugs to treat or prevent SARS-CoV-2 infections. Therefore, drug repurposing would be the fastest route to provide at least a temporary solution while better, more specific drugs are being developed. Here, we demonstrate that the antiparasitic drug suramin inhibits SARS-CoV-2 replication, protecting Vero E6 cells with a 50% effective concentration (EC50) of ∼20 μM, which is well below the maximum attainable level in human serum. Suramin also decreased the viral load by 2 to 3 logs when Vero E6 cells or cells of a human lung epithelial cell line (Calu-3 2B4 [referred to here as "Calu-3"]) were treated. Time-of-addition and plaque reduction assays performed on Vero E6 cells showed that suramin acts on early steps of the replication cycle, possibly preventing binding or entry of the virus. In a primary human airway epithelial cell culture model, suramin also inhibited the progression of infection. The results of our preclinical study warrant further investigation and suggest that it is worth evaluating whether suramin provides any benefit for COVID-19 patients, which obviously requires safety studies and well-designed, properly controlled randomized clinical trials.


    I don't know if this can work or not. But, when we see BIG PHARMA hiding and banning medication it has smoke. As I understand it SURAMIN is prohibited in America. Below is the article I read in State of The Nation.

    The expert’s consensus is that the Covid shots are not vaccines but experimental bioweapons. The cells of the vaxxed are now producing a synthetic spike protein from the pathogen they were injected with. It was also determined by the experts that the vaxxed must be quarantined because transmission is airborne.There is a potential antidote to the current spike protein contagion which is called Suramin. It’s found in many forests around the world, in Pine needles. Suramin has inhibitory effects against components of the coagulation cascade and against the inappropriate replication and modification of RNA and DNA. Excessive coagulation causes blood clots, mini-clots, strokes, and unusually heavy menstrual cycles. Pine needle tea is one of the most potent antioxidants there is and it’s known to treat cancer, inflammation, stress and depression, pain and respiratory infections. Pine tea also kills parasites. Chemical analysis, all about Suramin pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/compound/Suramin-sodium


    Possible Antidote for the V-Serum and the Current Spike Protein Contagion

    Dr. Judy Mikovits (1 min. MP4 is attached) has revealed that the medical establishment has known all along about the antidote to the contagion – a contagion that is now being seen today by thousands of people who have not taken the serum, but have merely come within proximity to others who have taken the jab.
    (The word “serum” is being used here since, evidently, the way to avoid taking the jab is to say “I am allergic to the serum”.)
    When the medical establishment and political promoters want to exempt themselves from taking inoculations, they always give themselves a legal way out, while pushing the “citizenry” to take the jabs.

    “I am allergic to the serum” is one of their solutions.
    Taking the serum is one thing. The spike protein contagion now being experienced in large numbers by those who did not take the serum, but just visited with a relative or friend who did, is entirely new and unprecedented.

    The Antidote to the Contagion
    This antidote to the contagion, that has been known by the upper levels of the medical establishment and insiders of the elitist class for almost 100 years, is called Suramin, an isolated compound originally derived from an extract of pine needle oil.
    It is only available by injection, and has been a closely guarded secret not made openly available to the masses during this “pandemic”, yet is an effective solution for parasites and viruses of several kinds, along with a large number of other conditions.
    Yet anyone can now take advantage of this solution by tapping its root origin, pine needle tea, an antidote that is freely available today in evergreen forests and in many people’s backyards.


    How can this simple remedy work so well in the face of such a seemingly insurmountable condition?
    There is a direct relationship between Suramin (the isolated extract), pine needle tea (a hot water extract of the pine, fir, cedar, and spruce needles), and pine oil (which is derived from the needles though an essential oil steam distillation process).

    All three are derived from the properties of the conifer needle.
    My personal take on this is that it is far better to get Nature’s whole herb source than just a tiny fraction of an extract. There are many other benefits that can be derived from the whole herb that will be missing from the isolated chemical.

    My observation is that those who maintain high levels of health are not affected by either the serum nor the transference contagion. Their immune system seems to be warding off side effects at this point. Come winter when the spike protein in their bodies will be challenged with new pathogens, we will all discover our true levels of health.
    Anyone on the fence health-wise, or depleted (which can be said of many of us today), are being affected to varying degrees.


    The Trail from Suramin to Pine Needle Tea
    Here is the trail of science and data that shows the derivative relationship between pine needles and Suramin (“the elist’s antidote” to microbial illnesses) – and which also provides a potential antidote for those affected by the spike protein contagion (for reasons explained within the following data):
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suramin
    Suramin is used for treatment of human sleeping sickness caused by trypanosomes .[a parasite] Specifically, it is used for treatment of first-stage African trypanosomiasis caused by Trypanosoma brucei rhodesiense and Trypanosoma brucei gambiense without involvement of central nervous system. It is considered first-line treatment for Trypanosoma brucei rhodesiense , and second-line treatment for early-stage Trypanosoma brucei gambiense , where pentamidine is recommended as the first line.
    It has been used in the treatment of river blindness (onchocerciasis).

    Suramin has been available to the medical profession for almost 100 years. A summary of its antioxidant benefits are outlined in this report – 100 Years of Suramin.
    The most relevant parts of the summary are outlined below with supportive evidence:

    SURAMIN, O FRUTO DA QUÍMICA MEDICINAL INICIAL
    Quando a suramina foi introduzida para o tratamento da doença do sono africana em 1922, foi um dos primeiros agentes anti-infecciosos desenvolvidos em um programa de química medicinal. A partir da atividade antitripanossômica do corante azul tripano , sintetizado em 1904 por Paul Ehrlich, a Bayer fez uma série de derivados incolores e mais potentes. A molécula 205 era suramina (Fig. 1), sintetizada por Oskar Dressel, Richard Kothe e Bernhard Heymann em 1916. A doença do sono (também conhecida como tripanossomíase humana africana [HAT]) estava na vanguarda da pesquisa naquela época, não sendo negligenciada doença como é hoje, e o desenvolvimento de suramina foi um avanço para o campo emergente da quimioterapia.

    Agora leia o seguinte parágrafo dentro do subtítulo (Too) Many Targets in the 100 Years of Suramin PDF para entender suas propriedades de antídoto para o contágio da proteína spike (derivado do mRNA que dá instruções para replicar uma proteína spike em outras células):
    A suramina diminui ainda mais as atividades de um grande número de enzimas envolvidas na síntese e modificação de DNA e RNA : DNA polimerases (103, 104), RNA polimerases (103, 105, 106), transcriptase reversa (18, 103), telomerase (67) , e as enzimas envolvidas no enrolamento / desenrolamento do DNA (107, 108) são inibidas pela suramina, bem como enzimas modificadoras de histona e cromatina, como proteínas cromobox (109), metiltransferases (110) e sirtuína histona desacetilases (111)

    Esta é a linguagem médica para inibir a replicação e modificação inadequadas de RNA e DNA.

    This comment in the PDF also reveals Suramin’s ability to inhibit micro-clots:
    Suramin also showed inhibitory effects against components of the coagulation cascade (71, 130)…

    Excessive coagulation causes blood clots, mini-clots, strokes, and unusually heavy menstrual cycles.

    This is why so many people are dying today of blood clots after receiving the serum, and why others are now showing unexplained bruising after coming in contact with one that has taken the serum.
    Something is being transferred from one to the other, likely through the breath, complemented by a type of sympathetic resonance, or pheromone emanation. The method of transfer is unclear at this point, but is certainly happening.

    This phenomenon is not an accident, these symptoms were known well in advance of unleashing this serum on the public. Vaccine trials have been going on for decades. Why did they decide to test a completely new approach with the mRNA without animal trials, thus using humans as the first test case for their effectiveness?

    Any natural medicine with 0.01% of these deaths and side effects would have been pulled from the market immediately
    The upper echelon of the medical profession promote this program to the people, while they exempt themselves from it, and then take their personal antidote to prevent being affected by the transference contagion.
    Since when is it acceptable to kill thousands of people and maim hundreds of thousands more with a “medicine”??? Why are we finding this OK? Why are we still trusting the media and the medical wizards that dreamed up this sham? When will enough be enough?

    Suramin is a derivative of the oils in pine needles.
    The whole herbal source (needles) is superior to the single compound extract (Suramin) – because the needles possess a full complement of phytonutrients providing numerous additional benefits that the extract is incapable of.

    Now, here is the direct connection between Suramin and Pine Needle Tea:

    Suramin is Derived from Trypan Blue
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trypan_blue
    Trypan blue is derived from toluidine , that is, any of several isomeric bases, C14H16N2, derived from toluene . Trypan blue is so-called because it can kill trypanosomes , the parasites that cause sleeping sickness . An analog of trypan blue, suramin , is used pharmacologically against trypanosomiasis . Trypan blue is also known as diamine blue and Niagara blue…

    Trypan red and trypan blue were first synthesized by the German scientist Paul Ehrlich in 1904.


    Trypan Blue is a derivative of toluene which is a derivative of pine oil.
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toluene
    The compound was first isolated in 1837 through a distillation of pine oil by the Polish chemist Filip Walter , who named it rétinnaphte. [10]

    I personally recall many years ago one health professional was using a Pine Sol bath to rid the body of parasites.
    Pine-Sol was based on pine oil when it was created in 1929 and during its rise to national popularity in the 1950s. However, as of 2016, Pine-Sol products sold in stores no longer contain pine oil to reduce costs. Wikipedia

    Yet pine needle tea provides a similar, if not superior, benefit, due in part to the fact that it is a direct mild extract of the whole herb leaving many of its properties still intact that might be destroyed by excessive heat during distillation and further dissection of its many nutrient components.

    I harvested some young Dougles Fir needles last fall and have been adding it to my morning tea blend for the last couple of months. It must have been an instinctive call. I discovered the Suramin info just last week.

    The Douglas fir needle tea I have been drinking provides an energetic lift and a nice boost to the immune system.
    Pine needles are high in vitamin C and A among numerous other compounds which provide a long list of benefits:A 2011 Korean study demonstrated using pine needles in tea was the best way to access the antioxidant benefits from pine needles. The study demonstrated that the hot water extract of pine needle proanthocyanidins and catechins offer the highest levels of antioxidant benefits compared with chemical extract processes.

    There are other known benefits that pine needle tea and the tea made from other conifers share, which include:
    Analgesic
    Antibacterial
    Antifungal
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    Herbalists the world over have known all along about the benefits of this simple natural tea. Pine needle tea has been used medicinally worldwide for thousands of years.


    A few notes of caution:
    Be careful with the yew pine (which is not a true pine) and can be toxic, although it does have a few medicinal properties ).The cypress is not to be used as an essential oil in high doses, but normally safe otherwise. The ponderosa pine is not good for cows mostly due to the observation when pregnant cattle eat the needles the loss of the calf has been observed, but has a long history of health benefits for humans for respiratory conditions, cuts, wounds, and burns, etc.
    By far the vast majority of conifers have been used medicinally for thousands of years with an excellent track record. Get to know your trees. They may provide a medicine cabinet full of health benefits to you and your family. Pine, spruce, cedar, and fir needle tea may end up being the easiest way to gain the numerous benefits of the evergreen trees, along with a natural protection against unhealthy replications of spike proteins today. Combine with other herbs as desired to obtain further benefits and flavors

    Dosage: 3 cups per day or more of any desired strength (based on the quantity of needles added to a french press or teapot) with an approximate 1-3 tablespoons of needles per cup of near boiling water. This is a maintenance health-building dose.

    Stronger amounts of needles to water can be used therapeutically. If it feels too acidic (due to the vitamin C) for your system, moderate the quantity and complement the tea with alkalizing food and dark green herbs or sea vegetables.
    — — —
    In order to grasp the seriousness of the situation we are in, and to understand why, we need to look back in history to the times in which this very day had been forecast, obviously planned for, and now created.
    Here is one clear example:
    “Jacques Attali was an advisor to François Mitterrand (former President of France) and wrote this in 1981:
    “In the future it will be a question of finding a way to reduce the population. We will start with the old man, because once he is over 60-65 years old, man lives longer than he produces and it costs society dearly.
    Then the weak and then the useless who do not contribute anything to society because there will be more and more, and especially finally the stupid.
    Euthanasia directed at these groups; euthanasia must be an essential instrument of our future societies, in all cases.
    Of course, we will not be able to execute people or organize camps. We will get rid of them by making them believe that it is for their own good.
    Too large a population, and for the most part unnecessary, is something economically too expensive. Socially, it is also much better for the human machine to stop abruptly rather than gradually deteriorate.
    We won’t be able to pass intelligence tests on millions and millions of people, you can imagine!
    We will find something or cause it; a pandemic that targets certain people, a real economic crisis or not, a virus that will affect the old or the elderly, it does not matter, the weak and the fearful will succumb.
    The stupid will believe it and ask to be treated. We will have taken care of having planned the treatment, a treatment that will be the solution.
    The selection of idiots will therefore be done by itself: they will go to the slaughterhouse alone. “ This fragment is excerpted from his book “Brief History of the Future”, published in France in 2006.”

    Understand that we are smart enough to find our own solutions, and apply them. Those willing to take proactive protective measures, maintain their health, and become more self-reliant will rise from this period of change and transformation successfully.

    We will be the ones to structure the world to come with a new focus on the common good of all life everywhere. The old mindset expressed by that limited soul above will not be tolerated. That mindset, and those that harbor it, will vanish like the darkness before the approaching dawn.

    It is true that many will go with the passing night, yet those that remain will then shine all the brighter. Do your part. Take care of yourself first, then look to assist any willing to listen and join in the reconstruction.

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    Antioxidant, antimutagenic, and antitumor effects of pine needles (Pinus densiflora)

    These results demonstrate that pine needles exhibit strong antioxidant, antimutagenic, and antiproliferative effects on cancer cells and also antitumor effects in vivo and point to their potential usefulness in cancer prevention. pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/17474862/

    Effect of extracts from pine needle against oxidative DNA damage and apoptosis induced by hydroxyl radical via antioxidant activity
    These data indicate that water extracts from pine needle (WEPN) possesses a spectrum of antioxidant and DNA-protective properties common to cancer chemopreventive agents. pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19500637/'

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    excellent post,
    I am surprised that 'turpentine' isnt mentioned in this context. thats what you get when you distill pine needles...

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    I am allergic to pine - what can I do??
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    Is that the same as parabens? Any touching of wood, /xmas trees causes awful rash.
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    I am allergic to pine - what can I do??
    Here is the homeopathic version available in the UK.

    https://www.equilibrium-health.com/p...ine-mito-30ml/

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