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    I just noticed that the Vatican is staying very quiet throughout this time of
    US elections . Did anyone notice that?

    I am no friend of theirs as to what they would call me I don't know and could not care less.
    As a former conditioned "brainwashed" individual in the catholic indoctrination I feel for the
    priests and nuns and all the thousands, no, millions who have been swindled by the "holy" roman church.

    (What a rip off."

    Do we really need to wake up, and BIG time at this time.

    Thousands of years too late in my opinion...……….
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    Quote Posted by East Sun (here)
    I just noticed that the Vatican is staying very quiet throughout this time of
    US elections . Did anyone notice that?
    I don't remember the Vatican EVER commenting on US elections. It's not in their best interests to do so.

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    Trump points to Vatican in border wall fight, saying it has 'biggest wall of them all'
    No need to follow anyone, only consider broadening (y)our horizon of possibilities ...

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    Quote Posted by TomKat (here)

    I don't remember the Vatican EVER commenting on US elections. It's not in their best interests to do so.
    Can't remember them being very outspoken; they seem to be more effective from within.

    Is there an issue at stake about the only developed country with a medical system backed by for-profit insurance? No, serves them.

    Is there an issue about the quality of education and the importance of university and professional sports teams? No, serves them.

    Any major hue and cry about "we just took over Bolivia"? Not much.

    It seems to me their influence is anchored so well, the less said, the longer it lasts.

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    The "holy" roman church is by no means holy IMO.
    Anyone taking a look at them can see that clearly.

    They are the opposite absolutely and have been swayed to the dark side
    in my view.

    Just look at the the ancient ritual process of the Mass. It is an ancient ritual that was a sacrifice of
    Jesus on the cross. Do we sacrifice animals today or humans. Well, maybe we do indirectly but
    unknowingly because we are kept from the reality of our world.

    Our world is not a pleasant place to be at this time and never has been in our recollected history.
    Is it our fault? Not at all. We are innocent, sheep, as it were, but what can sheep do I the face
    of adversity. Appeal to a higher power, Where is that power we need to find out ?

    Is it ETs and that is not too far fetched, really when we consider what we are faced with here on Earth.

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    People have faced devious rulers over the eons. In the 20th century people had to overcome atheistic communist regimes and fascist dictatorships. Before that, they had to overcome monarchies and aristocratic oppression. All along, repressive religions have been a problem.

    So, now humanity faces the oppression of cult of the celebrity, cult of gadgetry, cult of gender identity, oppressive fascist new world order, etc.

    Can humanity overcome the oppression? We have, to some extent, so far, atleast. No reason not to have smidgen of optimism for the future.

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    People have faced devious rulers over the eons. In the 20th century people had to overcome atheistic communist regimes and fascist dictatorships. Before that, they had to overcome monarchies and aristocratic oppression. All along, repressive religions have been a problem.

    So, now humanity faces the oppression of cult of the celebrity, cult of gadgetry, cult of gender identity, oppressive fascist new world order, etc.

    Can humanity overcome the oppression? We have, to some extent, so far, atleast. No reason not to have smidgen of optimism for the future.
    Justplain,

    Now we have to start finding ways to deal with 5G, AI and transgenderism etc. Maybe this a prison planet
    and that has been kept from us as well as most things that we realy needed to know through all these
    centuries.

    (Not to mention, changing political agendas, overly wealthy egocentric exploiters, drug and arms trafficking
    by the ones that should be "leaders of the people.")

    It seems to be the way of the human experience as it has been and may always be.
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    Yes, East Sun, humanity faces great obstacles. If we meet those with humility, love, compassion, forgiveness, fortitude and courage, we should be able to overcome.

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    Justplain,
    Hopefully that may work. It may be the deciding factor between what we are and what we need to become.

    But what do we want to become is the question? Is it up to as as a specious to determine where we go from
    here? Or do we have no say in the matter? We never have a direct path, do we?

    If it's something we can decide then we need to give it some serious thought.
    What do we want to be, that is the question. And it may be as simple as that for
    all we know.

    Choose wisely for it may be for all eternity.
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