I'm sorry but no, they're not, the opinions are based on experience and applying a more logical and scientific method to the claims, as opposed to just having blind faithPosted by Soullight (here)
Posted by Mashika (here)
I think it's worth noting the posts made above yours
Star Mariner
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...=1#post1353397
DeDukshyn
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...=1#post1353425
Those posts explain very well what he was trying to do, and it wasn't just that he wanted to express his views, no one prevented him from doing that. he was trying to manipulate people using well known technics, this is not the first time i've seen this, nor will be the last i bet
On ATS there are some people who have positioned as "Experts" in several fields using this exact technique, and people believe anything they say blindly no matter how obvious it is that person is just copying answers from somewhere else or being so ambiguous it leaves plenty of room for denying they ever said they were "experts" and such. It's sad to see and people even attack you if you ever try to question the person's credentials. Almost cultish behavior. And it always starts the way this thread started, by dragging people into a non conversation that just elevates the OP to a high but fake perceived level of "knowledge" or "expertise" on some area
Anyways i think this thread ran its course by now, it serves more as material to dissect than to discuss immortality, and yep it was never about immortality to begin with, that was just the hook to gather people around
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Masha
Posted by Soullight (here)
Hello MashikaPosted by Mashika (here)
Which part would that be? HE did not show any evidenceanything you have said since you speak from what you experience to be true and explain very clearly what people are trying to do to you.
Here's some clue let's see if you get it
I belong to a family in Russia that has been around for 1200 years, under different names. I got a lot of "pre-knowledge" integrated into my growing up education. So i can see this guy is a liar, it's clear and obvious to me but not to you
He's a weak liar, you may not want to see it but all the evidence it's out there on his own words
The full quote you referenced was “I see no offense in anything you have said since you speak from what you experience to be true and explain very clearly what people are trying to do to you“
I was NOT referencing that he hasn’t provided “evidence” or proof that’s he’s an immortal. I think it’s clear that he won’t provide “proof” (at least that many would see as such) since it’s a secret thing, although he can provide evidence. And that he’s completely open to answering any questions is wonderful and should be encouraged. While attacks towards him aren’t questions and only muddy up the waters IMHO.
Most importantly to my points is that he should have the right to share his views whether people like them or believe they are possible or not. I personally don’t have any way to verify if he’s immortal through anything he could post on a forum. But what I know is that from reading his post he’s done nothing wrong or bad towards anyone (and I’m pretty sure hasn’t violated any of the forums rules). He’s only stated his understandings and is open for dialogue. I find the objections against him to be a bit silly, considering that he claimed that this is a secret, so anyone expecting irrefutable “proof” on this forum is completely missing the point, although this doesn’t mean there isn’t value to his postings.
Further, there are loads of experiences that some people have that other people can’t comprehend since they themselves haven’t had such experiences. For example, you may be intellectually well versed in what “hot” means but until you touch something hot you have missed a certain understanding of what hot was, that your intellect could not grasp.
Similarly, there are conscious internal or even out-of-body experiences where people can have interactions to not only beings but places, including hell like realms. Whether or not these are true, or the results of ones owns bias, or some sort of collective bias, mental aberrations, or a projection of some unknown technology, or power, who knows. But what we do know, at least those well studied in such things, and especially those of us who have experienced inner or OBE realms directly, is that these realms DO exist and are as every bit as real to the experiencer as things in 3D.
Finally, no sane person would harm or wish to cause harm to children, be it physically, emotionally, intellectually, etc. To suggest that conveying scary topics (such as the idea of a hell) should be completely banned from this forum would negate sooo much of the horrific content discussed on this forum, from black goo, to war atrocities, etc...the list is huge. Religions aren’t the only cause of atrocities, mind control or enslavement on earth. And frankly I think Shotacrossthebow was not referring to the classical understanding of the Christian type of hell. Regardless, this is not a topic worthy of banning.
Thank you,
These post you referenced along with your views are ALL personal opinions of what you think is happening.
I think it's very clear, based on the evidence he provided himself that he did not had any real interest in discussing the concept but instead he wanted to discuss himself, or more like, he wanted to massage his ego by "accepting questions" as in an AMA in Reddit, when you have proven yourself to be someone who is on some special or specific circumstances. Except people on Reddit that go into an AMA are well known and have proven themselves to be who they claim to be. This guy here did not and probably will never prove any of that. But as said on this thread several times, if he can he should. Evidence, so far and again, says he can't and won'tThat’s fine, there’s good reason for such views in this world, and of course everyone has the right to their opinions.
Yet we don’t completely know SATB intentions (whether he/she/it is legit or not) but what we do know is that he started the thread and he wanted us to ask him any question that we wished. How does a forum get any better than that?
He concluded we were all here to listen to his tale and ask the questions he wanted us to ask, once someone asked a question that fell out of his narrative or the one he was constructing and requested some evidence, he threw a temper tantrum and ran away from the forum. Does that look to you like a very experienced immortal being?Instead, there are those that seems more apt to convey their conclusions, or even lash out at him/her/it, because they got rubbed the wrong way by his approach, words, etc.
It doesn't to me, as i have already explained in a previous post, i have known people who are the real deal, and they don't throw a tantrum because someone on the net told you they did not believe you. That's ridiculous and shows the person is fake in several ways
As much as any other "wasted opportunities" to let yourself be fooled for a long time and probably get introduced into some cult where you are not able to question and must let yourself brainwashed, we know plenty of those and it's always the same tactics to gather people aroundIt seems a wasted opportunity when all we had to do was ask him questions. Truthfully, I can’t I say I blame SATB if he ever comes back here, if he wasn’t banned.
Is not sad, if he was strong as he tried to show himself to be, he would have known how to dismiss people in a way that would make it clear he was for realIt’s sad...especially considering all of censorship and attacks going on everywhere. How did that children’s rhyme go...”Sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me.”
He did not
Let me ask you something just to be sure i understand your approach to this
You said he could possibly be the real deal, but he said he had a "big secret" and he could not disclose it, he also kept talking about "higher ups" and such
The obvious question would be: If he can't release the secret, and he can't give us the info we want. Then why is he talking about it at all? Isn't he supposed to stay quiet?
Talking about a secret while saying you can't tell you that secret, makes sense to you? What would you gain from doing such dumb thing? Risk your life for nothing? He must know he can't hide his location at all, so whatever he wrote is known. He also must know about compartmentalization, yet he acted as if he was so high level he did not care, still he can't talk about "the secret" because of "reasons"... And yet again, he threw a 9 year old kid temper tantrum when someone questioned instead of asking the questions he expected, is that mature for a high level immortal being that is part of some group that has "higher ups" and sounds like part of a movie script?
IT doesn't make any sense, at all. I can only say this, and it's very honest. You seem to want to believe so hard you are blinding yourself badly to the evidence, and throwing all logic away in the name of "maybe"
I'm not feeling like coming back to keep going in this circular argument, there's nothing to learn here, or to figure out at all
So thanks for everything and see you around in the forums, bye now
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I don't this is true at all, Avalon is not a forum for "preposterous claims", there are plenty other forums for thatWhat does it matter how preposterous their claims are? This forum is ALL about such things.
Instead, Avalon requires real discussion about the topics and a more scientific approach, you can see that in every thread, there is a lot of back and forth looking for evidence and posting it and discussing it. If you wanted a forum where people just go circling around the real issue and just pretending they don't see the problems with the "theory", and no one will ask for real evidence and everything keeps very low level and such, i know a few places i can recommend LMAO!
I don't know how you figured this forum was for ridiculous claims without any proof. Playing pretend? I stopped playing pretend when i was 10 but i know how to play it still
Have you read this post by SATB?
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...=1#post1351745
I think that says it all. I don't even understand why you keep going around this, he's unstable and he over reacted very badly as soon as someone expressed an opinion he didn't like and that didn't play along with his attempt to gather people and create a narrative. Why are you ignoring the evidence so hard?
It's getting so boring, the same back and forth over something someone said that could or could not be true but most like is not but no one can prove, neither the guy that posted it or anyone else. This is a fool's playground? LMFAO!
- I have a big secret
+ What is it?
- I am immortal
+ Really? Tell us more!!
- I can't, it's a big secret
+ Oh, then why did you say it at all?
- Ask me questions, i have a big secret
+ Ok, why are you saying this?
- I can't tell you, my higher ups will get triggered
+ Ok then, so is there any point in this?
- I have a big secret, ask me questions
+ Are you talking to us or someone else? I don't believe you have a big secret
- I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU DON'T BELIEVE ME!!!!! I DON'T WANT TO PLAY ANYMORE, GIVE ME MY BALL I'M GOING HOME AND I'M GOING TO TELL MY MOM YOU DID NOT WANT TO BELIEVE ME WHEN I SAID I HAD A BIG SECRET!!!!!!!!
That's how this thread went