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    Flu Misinformation and Coronavirus Fears: My Letter to Dr. Sanjay Gupta
    4/16/20

    Source: https://childrenshealthdefense.org/n...-sanjay-gupta/

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    By Robert F. Kennedy, Jr., Chairman, Children’s Health Defense

    Dear Sanjay,

    Last week, your CNN producer, Matthew Reynard, notified me that CNN is featuring me in a documentary about “vaccine misinformation”. As usual, Mr. Reynard did not point out a single factual assertion by me that was incorrect (I carefully source all of my statements about vaccines to government databases or peer-reviewed publications). CNN uses the term “vaccine misinformation” as a euphemism for any statement that departs from the Government / Pharma orthodoxy that all vaccines are safe, necessary, and effective for all people.

    I respectfully point out that CNN and particularly you, Sanjay, are today among the most prolific broadcasters of ‘vaccine misinformation.’

    I have always admired you, Sanjay. Your obvious talents aside, you seem to be genuinely compassionate and to value integrity. Earlier in your career, you showed a courageous willingness to challenge Big Pharma’s vaccine orthodoxies. However, I respectfully point out that CNN and particularly you, Sanjay, are today among the most prolific broadcasters of “vaccine misinformation”. Over the last several years, I cannot recall seeing a single substantial CNN segment on vaccines that did not include easily verified factual misstatements. CNN’s recent special, “Pandemic”, was a showcase of erroneous assertions about the flu vaccine.

    Since I don’t like to think that you deliberately mislead the public—particularly about critical public health choices—I have taken the time to point out some of your most frequent errors.

    I hope you will take time to read this. This critique has special relevance during the current coronavirus crisis, not to mention its important implications for the roles of government and press in a democracy. CNN and other media outlets treat CDC, NIH, and WHO pronouncements as infallible truths. In fact, regulatory capture has made these agencies subsidiaries of Big Pharma, and the lies that CDC has been telling us about flu are now muddying the debate over coronavirus.

    Furthermore, of the mere 257 cases that could reasonably be blamed on the flu in CDC’s mortality data, only 7 percent were laboratory confirmed cases of influenza.

    1. CNN assertion: In your annual flu shot promotions, you routinely parrot CDC’s estimates of overall flu deaths which have ranged in recent years from 36,000 for the 1990-1991 flu season to 80,000 for the 2017-2018 flu season.

    Fact: The HHS’s mortality and morbidity data—available on the National Center for Health Statistics (NCHS) website—show that CDC’s (and CNN’s) annual estimates are off by orders of magnitude.

    NCHS data report the average number of mortalities attributable to influenza on death certificates is little more than 1,000. CDC devises its inflated estimate by deliberately conflating flu deaths with pneumonia deaths. This device is deceitful since most of these fatalities are unrelated to the flu (and therefore, impervious to flu vaccines).

    In 2005, the British Medical Journal (BMJ) Editor, Dr. Peter Doshi, published a comprehensive rebuke of CDC’s annual ritual of exaggerating flu mortalities entitled “Dissecting CDC’s Deception: Are US Flu Death Figures More PR Than Science?” Doshi accuses the CDC of purposefully inflating flu deaths to frighten the public into purchasing vaccines. To illustrate CDC’s chicanery, Doshi observed that CDC’s announced number of reported pneumonia and influenza deaths in 2001 at 62,034.
    Yet less than half of one percent of those were actually attributed to influenza. Furthermore, of the mere 257 cases that could reasonably be blamed on the flu in CDC’s mortality data, only 7 percent were laboratory confirmed cases of influenza. That’s 18 lab confirmed influenza cases out of 62,034 “pneumonia and influenza” deaths—or just 0.03 percent, according to HHS’s own National Center for Health Statistics (NCHS).

    Subtracting pneumonia, the true number of influenza-associated deaths from 1979 to 2002 averaged 1,348, according to the NCHS data. CNN routinely reports figures forty times this number.

    Dr. Doshi charges the CDC with deliberately lying about annual flu deaths to “[work] in manufacturers’ interest by conducting campaigns to increase flu vaccination”. He warns that “by arbitrarily linking flu with pneumonia, current data are statistically biased.”

    By faithfully parroting CDC inflated numbers—with no due diligence—CNN has made itself complicit in this annual charade, making it difficult now to accurately assess the relative risk of COVID-19 as compared to flu and, therefore, rationally measure an appropriate response.

    … 2010 meta-analysis of published influenza vaccine studies found that the influenza vaccination has no effect on hospitalization, and that there is no evidence that vaccines prevent viral transmission or complications.

    2. CNN assertion: CNN routinely promotes the flu shot for everyone older than 6 months, proclaiming that the best way to protect against serious cases of the ailment “is to get a flu shot”.

    Fact: In reality, there is absolutely no scientific basis for the CDC’s assertion that the influenza vaccine is the most effective way to prevent the flu.

    The Cochrane Collaboration’s comprehensive 2010 meta-analysis of published influenza vaccine studies found that the influenza vaccination has “no effect” on hospitalization, and that there is “no evidence that vaccines prevent viral transmission or complications.”

    The Cochrane Researchers concluded in 2010 that the scientific evidence “seem[s] to discourage the utilization of vaccination against influenza in healthy adults as a routine public health measure.”

    Four years later, Cochrane published a follow-up meta-review including dozens of more recent scientific studies and again concluded bluntly that the body of scientific data provides “no evidence for the utilization of vaccination against influenza in healthy adults as a routine public health measure.”

    In other words, despite CNN’s relentless hectoring, there is no scientific evidence that all the billions of dollars America spends on influenza vaccination each year actually provides any health benefit, much less a net economic benefit—apart from the financial windfall to the four pharmaceutical companies that manufacture these vaccines—and who happen to be among CNN’s top advertisers.

    A study published in PNAS] found that influenza vaccination actually increased transmission of the virus, with vaccinated individuals shedding more than six times as much aerosolized virus in their breath than unvaccinated individuals.
    3. CNN assertion: You and CNN frequently parrot CDC’s claim that a flu shot reduces the chances that an individual will transmit the flu to others. Pandemic repeated this assertion. CNN offers this supposed benefit as the justification for school vaccine mandates.

    Fact: However, in their 2010 systematic meta review of the literature, the Cochrane researchers found “no evidence that vaccines prevent viral transmission or complications”.

    Even more worrisome, a study from January 18, 2018, in the Journal of the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences of the United States of America, PNAS, found that influenza vaccination actually increased transmission of the virus, with vaccinated individuals shedding more than six times as much aerosolized virus in their breath than unvaccinated individuals.

    Those scientists were not altogether surprised by this finding explaining that “certain types of prior immunity”—in this case, the kind of immunity conferred by the vaccine as opposed to naturally acquired immunity— “promote lung inflammation, airway closure, and aerosol generation.” They conclude that, “If confirmed, this observation, together with recent literature suggesting reduced protection with annual vaccination, would have implications for influenza vaccination recommendations and policies.”

    4. CNN assertion: CNN frequently repeats CDC’s advice that children should get the flu shot, which you assure CNN’s audience has been proven safe.
    Fact: A 2012 Cochrane review looking at studies of influenza vaccination in healthy children found no safety studies in children under age two, and declared that safety studies were “urgently required”.

    Every influenza vaccine package insert contains warnings about the lack of safety studies in pregnant women and nursing mothers.

    5. CNN assertion: CNN also promotes CDC’s recommendation that all pregnant women get a flu shot.

    Fact: CDC recommends the flu shot for pregnant women despite the fact that FDA—the agency charged with assessing vaccine safety—has refused to license the flu shot during pregnancy due to grave safety concerns. (Sanjay; I encourage you to confront FDA and make inquiries about this inter-agency conflict.) Every influenza vaccine package insert contains warnings about the lack of safety studies in pregnant women and nursing mothers.

    A 2014 Cochrane review found that the number of randomized, placebo-controlled trials examining the safety and effectiveness of vaccinating pregnant women was zero.

    A 2019 article by Alberto Donzelli in Human Vaccination & Immunotheraputics, asks the question, “Influenza vaccination for all pregnant women?” and argues, “So far the less biased evidence does not favour it”. Donelli found that public health recommendations on flu shots during pregnancy had systematically overestimated “the vaccine effectiveness and safety”—and that the published science showed “an excess of local adverse effects and a tendency for serious adverse events with uncertain or very limited protection against influenza”. Donzelli observes that flu vaccine trials in Africa and Asia have shown excessive infection and deaths in infants associated with flu shots during pregnancy.

    Although the vaccination rate for elderly people had increased by as much as 67 percent from 1989 to 1997, there was no evidence that vaccination reduced hospitalizations or deaths. On the contrary, mortality and hospitalization rates continued to increase rather than decline.

    6. CNN assertion: CNN urges seniors to get their flu shots. CDC credits the vaccine with a dramatic reduction in influenza-related deaths among the elderly.

    Fact: The scientific community has thoroughly debunked CDC’s claims that the flu shot reduces death among seniors.

    Researchers from the National Institutes of Health (NIH) ridicule CDC’s mortality claims in a study published in April 2005 in Archives of Internal Medicine (now JAMA Internal Medicine). Those NIH researchers pointed out that, despite a dramatic increase in vaccination coverage among people aged 65 or older—from at most 20 percent before 1980 to 65 percent in 2001—pneumonia and influenza mortality rates “rose substantially during this period”.

    The lead author of the 2005 NIH study, Lone Simonsen, was also coauthor with W. Paul Glezen of a 2006 commentary in the International Journal of Epidemiology that reiterated the problems with the CDC’s claims. “Although the vaccination rate for elderly people had increased by as much as 67 percent from 1989 to 1997, there was no evidence that vaccination reduced hospitalizations or deaths. On the contrary, “mortality and hospitalization rates continued to increase rather than decline”.

    The 2005 NIH study authors commented that this result was “surprising” since vaccination was supposed to be “highly effective at reducing influenza-related mortality”—an assumption underlying CDC policy that “has never been studied in clinical trials”.

    Similarly, a 2008 review in Virology Journal, observes that contrary to the CDC’s claims of a great beneficial effect on mortality, “influenza mortality and hospitalization rates for older Americans significantly increased in the 80s and 90s, during the same time that influenza vaccination rates for elderly Americans dramatically increased.”

    In a 2013 BMJ commentary, Dr. Doshi asked, “what evidence is there that influenza vaccines reduce deaths of older people—the reason the policy was originally created? Virtually none…” This means that influenza vaccines are approved for use in older people despite any clinical trials demonstrating a reduction in serious outcomes.”

    “Perhaps most perplexing,” Doshi added, “is officials’ lack of interest in the absence of good quality evidence.”

    7. CNN assertion: You frequently inform the CNN audience that “the flu vaccine is safe, and significant side effects are very rare.”

    Fact: Actual injury rates are impossible to determine since flu shots are exempt from pre-and-post-marketing placebo studies required of other medicines, and because HHS’s post-marketing surveillance system, the Vaccine Adverse Events Reporting System [VAERS], captures “fewer than 1% of vaccine injuries” according to a 2010 HHS-funded study. Nevertheless, some alarming metrics ought to give you pause when you offer these assurances to millions of viewers; Flu vaccines account for nearly ¼ of payouts for injuries by the Vaccine Injury Compensation Fund (VICA). The Vaccine Court has paid out nearly $1 billion for injuries and deaths caused by flu shots.

    GSK’s vaccine, Flulaval lists, on its manufacturing inserts, over 45 chronic diseases and adverse reactions that FDA believes may be linked to the vaccine. These include a long menu of immune system, allergic, musculoskeletal, psychiatric, respiratory, skin, vascular, and neurological disease including seizure, paralysis, and syncope.

    Australian data link the influenza vaccine during the 2009 – 2010 flu season to a 1-in-110 risk in children of having febrile convulsions. The pandemic H1N1 influenza vaccine in Europe was associated with a 1-in-55,000 risk of developing narcolepsy. CDC acknowledges that the Pandemrix flu vaccine is associated with an “increased risk of narcolepsy”.

    A 2015 meta-analysis published in the journal Vaccine has acknowledged “a small but statistically significant association between influenza vaccines, particularly the pandemic ones, and Guillen-Barre Syndrome (GBS)”.

    A 2004 study in the Journal of the American Medical Association, JAMA, noted that GBS was “the most frequent neurological condition reported after influenza vaccination to the Vaccine Adverse Events Reporting System (VAERS)”.

    The 2010 Cochrane meta-analysis chided that the post-mortality studies found that a statistically significant association between the influenza vaccine and GBS “demonstrate the danger of commencing a large vaccination campaign without adequate harms assessment.”

    … the flu shot increases the risks from coronavirus by 36%.

    8. CNN assertion: On March 5, 2020, you and Anderson Cooper did a “Town Hall” segment, “Corona Facts and Fears”, in which you fervently urged listeners to get the flu shot as the best way to keep healthy during the coronavirus pandemic. According to Anderson, “If you are concerned about coronavirus, you should get a flu shot”.

    Fact: However, the only study we have been able to find assessing flu shots and coronavirus is a January 2020 US Pentagon study that found that the flu shot INCREASES the risks from coronavirus by 36%. “Receiving influenza vaccination may increase the risk of other respiratory viruses, a phenomenon known as “virus interference…’vaccine derived’ virus interference was significantly associated with coronavirus…”

    Many studies suggest the flu vaccine increases vulnerability to both flu infections and the remaining 85% -93% of non-flu respiratory infections.

    9. CNN assertion: Sanjay, I’ve watched your video assuring the public that getting the flu shot cannot increase one’s chances of getting the flu.

    Fact: While that assertion has some meager support from a very small number of studies, the overwhelming weight of published science suggests that getting an annual flu shot can actually increase your risk of both flu and flu-like illnesses.
    Only about 7 percent to 15 percent of what are called “influenza-like illnesses” are actually caused by influenza viruses. Many studies suggest the flu vaccine increases vulnerability to both flu infections and the remaining 85% -93% of non-flu respiratory infections.

    A 2011 study of healthy Australian children published in the Pediatric Infectious Disease Journal found that seasonal flu shots increase the risk of flu by 73% and doubled the risk of non-flu respiratory infections, another 2012 randomized controlled trial published in Clinical Infectious Diseases found that influenza-vaccinated children had no significantly lessened risk from influenza and also a higher risk of infection from non-influenza viruses.

    Furthermore, the flu vaccine depletes capacity to fight off future flu infections. In April 2010, a study (by Skowronek, et al) published in the journal PLoS Medicine reported the “unexpected” finding from four epidemiologic studies in Canada that receipt of the influenza vaccine for the 2008 – 2009 season, while apparently effective in reducing the risk of illness due to the seasonal flu, was associated with an increased risk of illness due to the pandemic influenza A (H1N1) “swine flu” virus during the spring and summer of 2009. The scientists suggested that this finding could be due to the difference in the way the vaccine affects the immune system compared with natural infection.

    Under this hypothesis, repeated vaccination “effectively blocks the more robust, complex, and cross-protective immunity afforded by prior infection.”

    When unvaccinated people are infected with the seasonal influenza virus, they often develop a robust cell-mediated immunity that not only protects against that strain of the virus but is also cross-protective against other strains.

    People who’ve annually received the influenza vaccine, on the other hand, “may have lost multiple opportunities for infection-induced cross-immunity.”This is because the vaccine is designed to stimulate a strong antibody response, or humoral immunity, but does not confer the same kind of robust cell-mediated immunity as natural infection.

    NIH researchers in their 2005 study also acknowledged the superior effectiveness of naturally acquired immunity at reducing mortality, pointing out that senior citizens who contracted the H3N2 influenza pandemic infection demonstrated a robust immunity in subsequent flu seasons when compared to vaccinated individuals. The sharp decline in influenza-related deaths among people aged 65 to 74 years in the years immediately after the 1968 flu pandemic was most likely due to the acquisition of natural immunity to these viruses (from natural infections).

    Another study published in 2011 in the Journal of Virology confirmed that annual influenza vaccination indeed hampers the development of a robust cell-mediated immunity. Annual vaccination for influenza, the authors concluded, “may render young children who have not previously been infected with an influenza virus more susceptible to infection with a pandemic influenza virus of a novel subtype.”

    A 2018 CDC study found there was an increase of acute respiratory infections caused by non-influenza respiratory pathogens following influenza vaccination compared to unvaccinated children during the same period. The authors recommended that potential mechanisms for this association warrant further investigation.

    While most studies have looked at only one or two flu seasons, a CDC-funded study published in September 2014 in Clinical Infectious Diseases considered the long-term effects of repeated annual vaccination by looking at five years of vaccination data.

    The CDC researchers found that the more that people had been vaccinated in prior years, the less effective the vaccine are at preventing the most recent season’s dominant H3N2 virus.

    As they put it, “vaccine-induced protection was greatest for individuals not vaccinated during the prior 5 years.”

    Essentially, the immune system remembers the original infection and puts out a rapid defense against it, at the expense of developing a new but more appropriate response specifically to the currently infecting strain.
    The CDC scientists warned that their data “raises relevant questions about the potential interference of repeated annual influenza vaccination and possible residual protection from previous season vaccination”; the authors called for further studies.

    10. CNN assertion: One final observation about a different vaccine; In CNN’s
    regular promotion of measles vaccines, CNN and Sanjay frequently claim that natural measles mortalities are 1-2 in 1000. Those estimates seem calculated to frighten people into taking a measles shot and to drive MMR mandates.

    Fact: CDC’s 1963 mortality and morbidity data show that prior to the introduction of the measles vaccine, improvements in nutrition and hygeine had already driven US measles mortality in U.S. to 400 per year, a population ratio of 1/500,000 and a death-case ratio of 1 in 10,000—about the same risk of dying from a lightning strike. Most of those mortalities were among malnourished children, many of whom suffered from intellectual disabilities.

    The best evidence suggests that measles mortalities would have continued to drop with the introduction of food stamps, W.I.C, and other childhood nutritional programs passed during the War on Poverty after 1964 to relieve hunger in impoverished communities.

    Conclusion
    In their 2010 meta-analysis, the Cochrane researchers accused the CDC of deliberately misrepresenting the science in order to support their universal influenza vaccination recommendation. Nevertheless, CNN continually broadcasts CDC pronouncements as gospel and, ironically, ridicules those of us who actually read the science as “purveyors of ‘vaccine misinformation’”.

    Multiple comprehensive federal investigations and whistleblower declarations have documented the corrupt relationship between the CDC’s Vaccine Branch and the four vaccine makers: Merck, Pfizer, Sanofi, and GSK. These include a 2000 report by the US Congress Government Oversight Committee , a 2009 report by the Federal HHS Inspector General, a 2014 letter by David Wright, Director of HHS Office of Research Integrity, and a 2011 letter to Carmen S. Villar, chief of staff for Tom Frieden, from an organization of CDC scientists calling itself “SPIDER”.

    In 2014, CDC’s senior vaccine safety scientist, Dr. William Thompson, a 17-year CDC veteran, who continues to work for CDC, confessed in a series of depositions, and public and private statements, that his CDC bosses in CDC’s Immunization Branch had systematically ordered him and other researchers to destroy data and falsify study outcomes to hide CDC research linking vaccines to the exploding epidemic of childhood chronic diseases including autism. Doesn’t the abundant evidence of corruption at the Federal health agencies amplify CNN’s obligation to treat government pronouncements with skepticism?

    [The CDC] stressed that it was especially important to inspire “concern, anxiety, and worry” among young, healthy adults who don’t regard the flu with sufficient dread.

    At a 2004 workshop for the Institute of Medicine, CDC unveiled a blueprint for the agency’s annual campaigns of fear and deception in a PowerPoint entitled “‘Recipe’ for Fostering Public Interest and High Vaccine Demand”. CDC’s in-house P.R. flack Glen Nowak explained that it was necessary to use fear marketing to sell vaccines. CDC’s campaign called for encouraging television medical experts (like Sanjay and Elizabeth Cohen) to “state concern and alarm” about “and predict dire outcomes” from the flu season.

    To inspire the necessary terror, the CDC planned to encourage its tame journalists to describe each season as “very severe”, “more severe than last or past years”, and “deadly”. CDC’s press flacks stressed that it was especially important to inspire “concern, anxiety, and worry” among young, healthy adults who don’t regard the flu with sufficient dread.

    As the CDC bluntly stated it, “Health literacy is a growing problem”. In other words, the CDC considers it to be a problem that people are increasingly doing their own research and becoming more adept at educating themselves about health-related issues; Why? Because people who do their own research, read the science, and make informed choices rather than blindly following the CDC’s recommendations are less likely to get the flu shot.

    “Drug companies”, Dr. Doshi observes, “have long known that to sell some products, you would have to first sell people on the disease.” Only, in the case of the influenza vaccine, Doshi adds, “the salesmen are public health officials”. These public health officials have, in turn, transformed trusted journalists and television doctors into Pharma marketing reps.

    CNN likes to portray CDC’s annual flu shot campaigns as an important public health ritual. The peer-reviewed science exposes CDC’s campaigns as a mercantile propaganda project that is costly and may be injuring public health. CNN can fault CDC officials as the source of its “vaccine misinformation”. But this is a weak gesture. “People in power lie”, my father once told me. The function of journalism is to apply scrutiny and skepticism to the pronouncements of government officials and powerful corporations.

    Finally, Sanjay, you and Anderson Cooper often comment with dismay on the monumental tragedy, for our democracy, of having a president who habitually lies. But presidents come and go; the more enduring tragedy, arguably, is that we cannot trust our news media to tell us the truth about vital health issues when advertising dollars are at stake.

    You scratch your head and wonder how all those Trump supporters don’t share your indignation at President Trump’s mendacity. One answer is that they are disheartened by once-trusted media outlets who have also set the precedent of routinely lying and violating the public trust, wounding in the process our democracy, public faith in critical institutions, and the health of our children.
    Sincerely,


    Robert F. Kennedy Jr
    President, Children’s Health Defense

    P.S. Just as a reminder, here is a 60 Minutes program from over 30 years ago. This is what journalism looked like before Pharma purchased the media.

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    Mr. Robert F. Kennedy jr is brave, great great man - he has my ultimate respect.

    My heart/prayers goes out to RFK jr and his family over the loss of his grandchildren ….


    Peace/shanti


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    This is an interesting resource, https://www.euromomo.eu

    From their website..

    Quote Welcome to the EuroMOMO website. We publish weekly bulletins of the all-cause mortality levels in up to 24 European countries or regions of countries. The weekly bulletin is published every Thursday around noon.
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    Flu Misinformation and Coronavirus Fears: My Letter to Dr. Sanjay Gupta


    By Robert F. Kennedy, Jr., Chairman, Children’s Health Defense
    So the gist is that flu shots are the same deceptive device or same character as with opioids. That was certainly what I thought when I first heard of either one of them.

    I recall an Italian study last year showing that the multi-flu shot not only contained nothing useful, there were over forty contaminants. At some point there would seem to be enough victims and evidence to press similar suits about all this disease stuff.

    The weakness of the opiate suits is that, I guess due to it being corporations, it is all civil, there are no criminal charges against ownership.

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    UPDATE ON MY SISTER, who was tested for covid 19, two weeks ago. Remember , my sister Doretta has HIV for 35 years, stage 4 kidney, former drug addict , and present day drinker and chain smoker.

    so funny, she gets a call from the doctor who tells her she doesnt have it. and she says, whattt?? I wanted it! now i have to worry about getting it again!

    the doctor started laughing and said, in all his days , he never heard anything so funny! and they laughed and joked.

    she was thinking if she had it and already got over it, then her HIV meds would have saved her and she would be free of concern. my sister is quite funny, and I believe her ability to laugh has kept her going. a lesson for us all.

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    Coronavirus: Britain warned to prepare for up to six waves of COVID-19 in next year

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    This proving David Icke right.
    Are we going to have lock down every year for those who do not accept the immunisation or virus checks?
    Total control here we come--unless we dont accept this
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    Britain must be better prepared for "further waves" of coronavirus, with MPs told the government was "too slow" to respond to the current outbreak.

    Parliament's Health and Social Care Committee was told by leading physician Professor Anthony Costello that the country must face up to the "harsh reality" that it did not react quickly enough to warnings about COVID-19.

    The professor, from University College London's Institute for Global Health, told MPs via video-link that the UK would likely end up with the highest coronavirus death rate in Europe - even greater than Spain and Italy.

    In order to avoid another large spike in fatalities once the country begins to ease its lockdown measures, he said the government must up community testing capacity and embrace South Korea-style contact tracing.

    "We all hope that the national lockdown and social distancing will bring about a large suppression of the epidemic; however, we are going to face further waves," said Professor Costello.

    "We need to make sure we have a system in place that can not just do a certain number of tests in the laboratory.

    "We also need a system at district and community level to test people rapidly in the community, in care homes, and make sure the results get back to them very quickly.

    "We need to maintain social distancing of some kind when we lift the national lockdown, by focusing on the people we really want to lockdown, which are cases and contacts.

    "You need to find cases, test them if you can, trace their contacts, isolate them, do social distancing - but most importantly of all you do it all at speed."

    But Professor Costello, a former British director at the World Health Organisation, said it was likely that the most vulnerable people in the country would have to remain in some form of lockdown until there is a vaccine.

    Few expect a vaccine to be available until the spring of 2021 at the earliest, and Professor Costello suggested the UK could face as many as six waves of the coronavirus before then.

    "We have to get the economy going and if it means locking down 10% of our population, even giving them incentives to stay in quarantine and with digital apps to help monitor their symptoms and give them support, that's the way to really keep this going until we get a vaccine and safe herd immunity," he added.

    Among those questioning Professor Costello was former health secretary and committee chair Jeremy Hunt.

    The committee is conducting an inquiry into the preparedness of the UK to deal with such an outbreak, focusing on measures to safeguard public health, how to contain the virus, and the ability of the NHS to cope.

    Health Secretary Matt Hancock gave evidence to the committee's inquiry, which is meeting via video-link, on Friday, following chief medical officer Professor Chris Whitty and chief scientific adviser Sir Patrick Vallance last month.

    Attention among committee members has begun to turn towards how the UK might be able to cope with the disease once lockdown measures start being lifted, although any such changes are at least three weeks away.

    Professor Costello said the high number of coronavirus-related deaths in the UK, which is close to surpassing 14,000, should serve as a grim reminder to the government that it needs to respond quicker to future outbreaks.

    The physician said that while we "should not have any blame at this stage", the government "can make sure in the second wave we're not too slow".

    "We will probably have the highest death rate in Europe, we have to face the reality of that," he said, adding that the nationwide total could eventually reach 40,000.

    "We were too slow on a number of things, but we can make sure that in the second wave we're not too slow."

    The government has faced criticism for being slow to act on warnings from other countries, most notably Italy.

    Prime Minister Boris Johnson was initially reluctant to close social spaces like pubs and cinemas, and took longer still before ordering the nationwide lockdown last month.

    Questions continue to be asked about testing capacity, especially in care homes.

    Mr Hancock has said the UK wants to be carrying out 100,000 tests per day by the end of April, but the number being done each day at the moment is still hovering just below 20,000.


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    Britain must be better prepared for "further waves" of coronavirus, with MPs told the government was "too slow" to respond to the current outbreak.

    Parliament's Health and Social Care Committee was told by leading physician Professor Anthony Costello that the country must face up to the "harsh reality" that it did not react quickly enough to warnings about COVID-19.

    The professor, from University College London's Institute for Global Health, told MPs via video-link that the UK would likely end up with the highest coronavirus death rate in Europe - even greater than Spain and Italy.

    In order to avoid another large spike in fatalities once the country begins to ease its lockdown measures, he said the government must up community testing capacity and embrace South Korea-style contact tracing.

    "We all hope that the national lockdown and social distancing will bring about a large suppression of the epidemic; however, we are going to face further waves," said Professor Costello.

    "We need to make sure we have a system in place that can not just do a certain number of tests in the laboratory.

    "We also need a system at district and community level to test people rapidly in the community, in care homes, and make sure the results get back to them very quickly.

    "We need to maintain social distancing of some kind when we lift the national lockdown, by focusing on the people we really want to lockdown, which are cases and contacts.

    "You need to find cases, test them if you can, trace their contacts, isolate them, do social distancing - but most importantly of all you do it all at speed."

    But Professor Costello, a former British director at the World Health Organisation, said it was likely that the most vulnerable people in the country would have to remain in some form of lockdown until there is a vaccine.

    Few expect a vaccine to be available until the spring of 2021 at the earliest, and Professor Costello suggested the UK could face as many as six waves of the coronavirus before then.

    "We have to get the economy going and if it means locking down 10% of our population, even giving them incentives to stay in quarantine and with digital apps to help monitor their symptoms and give them support, that's the way to really keep this going until we get a vaccine and safe herd immunity," he added.

    Among those questioning Professor Costello was former health secretary and committee chair Jeremy Hunt.

    The committee is conducting an inquiry into the preparedness of the UK to deal with such an outbreak, focusing on measures to safeguard public health, how to contain the virus, and the ability of the NHS to cope.

    Health Secretary Matt Hancock gave evidence to the committee's inquiry, which is meeting via video-link, on Friday, following chief medical officer Professor Chris Whitty and chief scientific adviser Sir Patrick Vallance last month.

    Attention among committee members has begun to turn towards how the UK might be able to cope with the disease once lockdown measures start being lifted, although any such changes are at least three weeks away.

    Professor Costello said the high number of coronavirus-related deaths in the UK, which is close to surpassing 14,000, should serve as a grim reminder to the government that it needs to respond quicker to future outbreaks.

    The physician said that while we "should not have any blame at this stage", the government "can make sure in the second wave we're not too slow".

    "We will probably have the highest death rate in Europe, we have to face the reality of that," he said, adding that the nationwide total could eventually reach 40,000.

    "We were too slow on a number of things, but we can make sure that in the second wave we're not too slow."

    The government has faced criticism for being slow to act on warnings from other countries, most notably Italy.

    Prime Minister Boris Johnson was initially reluctant to close social spaces like pubs and cinemas, and took longer still before ordering the nationwide lockdown last month.

    Questions continue to be asked about testing capacity, especially in care homes.

    Mr Hancock has said the UK wants to be carrying out 100,000 tests per day by the end of April, but the number being done each day at the moment is still hovering just below 20,000.
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    No way will I have any vaccine, or chip, or put up with any divisive exclusion laws. This is a draconian nightmarish scenario, so let’s not participate. Viruses die out naturally, so any ‘solutions’ should accept that, and not exacerbate it, deliberately to enable the ‘controllers’.
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    Quote Posted by avid (here)
    No way will I have any vaccine, or chip, or put up with any divisive exclusion laws. This is a draconian nightmarish scenario, so let’s not participate. Viruses die out naturally, so any ‘solutions’ should accept that, and not exacerbate it, deliberately to enable the ‘controllers’.
    When I was a baby they did a test Jab on me and I reacted badly blowing up like the Michelin man. this means I have never had a vaccination and never will. I have nearly lost jobs because of this in the past and it is concern that I will be excluded from travel etc because of mandatory vaccinations.

    People like me are maybe a reason that it will be difficult to bring this in as mandatory law as it makes it discriminatory. You can be sure I will be on the frontline of protests against this as I have no choice. I hope when push comes to shove there will be large body of people that will walk the walk as well as talk the talk.
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    Quote Posted by Dorjezigzag (here)
    When I was a baby they did a test Jab on me and I reacted badly blowing up like the Michelin man. this means I have never had a vaccination and never will. I have nearly lost jobs because of this in the past and it is concern that I will be excluded from travel etc because of mandatory vaccinations.

    People like me are maybe a reason that it will be difficult to bring this in as mandatory law as it makes it discriminatory. You can be sure I will be on the frontline of protests against this as I have no choice. I hope when push comes to shove there will be large body of people that will walk the walk as well as talk the talk.
    My kid is in the same situation as you, she almost died after take a vaccine without proper testing for reactions, I had to hush with her to a hospital and it took days to get back to normal, luckily she is fine today. Doctor said do not EVER give any sort of vaccine on her. The doctor is a friend!

    About 13 years ago, I was kind of "forced" to take a vaccine for yellow fever in an official clinic in Taipe/TW, but not because the Officers forced me to do that, it was because I was travelling to Thailand under a Brazilian passport and the Thai Embassy asked me that before issuing the visa or I could face troubles to get into the country.

    Well, if they start this machiavellian plan to vaccinate entire populations across the world, it will end up very bad, a lot of foreign (include me) will be forced to take it in order to complain with the law, and those that will not complain (and there will be a lot) would be illegal or not allowed to move freely around, get work, maybe not even have a driving licence, buy food..

    I will give one example with my personal situation here in south east asia, I was told by an immigration officer that if I plan to leave the country I would need to complain with the new decrees in place, because they already imposed a corona virus certificate (yes, foreign need to get tested and the certificate is valid for 72 hours and it cost about $150 - people crossing borders need it in order to get into Thailand) and also a health insurance with a minimum policy of $100.000 (I already have my health plan, but of course it was not good enough for them and it DO NOT cover corona viruses). This entire situation forced me to apply for residence in the country (it was a total mess, about 2 kilos of paper work and lots of wasting time) which was not in my plans since I still have to travel basically every month (I need a Visa, not a residence permit!), I am pretty sure all countries are changing their rules pretty fast to complain with this BS situation.

    This entire lock step situation is a huge treat to our freedom, life was already difficult before it and now it is becoming impossible, expect revolution seriously. No big changes come without revolution.

    I do believe it is a bioweapon and it was released to cause disruption and big changes in our lives. It is an ambush against mankind!

    Hope for the best, but if I have to fight back I will stand there for our human rights.
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    With Trump opposing vaccines and more people posting anti-vaccine info it seems that Gates is pushing back hard.

    Imagine from the perspective of Gates - this has been a long plan and he sees himself gaining money and control. He does not want to let go when he probably thought he was so close to achieving his target.

    It is not my intent to project fear - on the contrary - I see the world becoming a better place, it is just that we might see more trouble before we get there.

    This is where push comes to shove. We must be stronger in every aspect. More determined for a positive outcome. Stay healthy and strong both physically and mentally. Teach when you have the opportunity and continue to research and learn more when you have the time.

    The efforts of everyone on this forum sharing information is amazing. It often feels like Avalon is ahead of the media in connecting the dots.

    We will have the world we deserve. Thanks to everyone! Stay the course. Be patient.

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    I think that "someone" really has planned (whatever this is but I do think it a novel virus) would break us as a world population....



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    No way will I have any vaccine, or chip, or put up with any divisive exclusion laws. This is a draconian nightmarish scenario, so let’s not participate. Viruses die out naturally, so any ‘solutions’ should accept that, and not exacerbate it, deliberately to enable the ‘controllers’.
    If enough of us agree to REFUSE the offering, and I think it is something tiny as a percentage of population (2.5%?), it will reshape the trajectory. BUY NO MORE SMART DEVICES, buy local, have a garden, stay home if necessary (but move to the country) and create a community of like minds THEN

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    Quote Posted by pueblo (here)
    This is an interesting resource, https://www.euromomo.eu

    From their website..

    Quote Welcome to the EuroMOMO website. We publish weekly bulletins of the all-cause mortality levels in up to 24 European countries or regions of countries. The weekly bulletin is published every Thursday around noon.
    Also, from their website..

    What the first graph on this page from Le Monde indicates is that unexpected deaths only appear from March 28, and a graph further down show that half the country has less than expected deaths.
    https://www.lemonde.fr/les-decodeurs...5_4355770.html


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    In Ecuador, the death toll stands at 403 but new figures from one province suggest thousands have died.

    The government in Guayas province reported 6,700 deaths in the first two weeks of April, far more than the usual 1,000 deaths there in the same period.

    The first recorded case was of an Ecuadorean woman returning from Spain.

    It backs the perception in Latin America that Covid-19 is a rich person's disease - a virus introduced to the region by affluent parts of society who had been travelling abroad.

    The high death toll is also a devastating consequence of the combination of an overburdened healthcare system and a deeply unequal society which means not everybody is able - or willing - to socially distance and stop work.

    Authorities argue they were quick to impose strict regulations and people chose to disregard measures but experts argue more could be done - and one thing that could help is testing.

    While Ecuador is not the worst offender in the region, low testing rates have made it very difficult to understand how the virus has moved through communities, some of which have been devastated by the high death toll.
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    A New Yorker who is trying to check out whether it's really so busy at a New York hospital is harassed by security and police, the hospital seems really quiet,
    when he drives off he comes across a hospital worker on his way to the hospital and asks him about how busy it is.
    The guy tells him it's not as busy as people think and people who die in the hospital automatically get "coronavirus" as their cause of death written on their death certificates which he finds "bizarre".

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    Someone noted that developing countries are the hardest hit. I don't think that is necessarily true. There are many more cases in the Guayas Provice of the little nation of Ecuador than in all India, the country with the second largest population on Earth.

    Guayas Province, Ecuador
    • Population: 3,645,483
    • Deaths: 10,939
    • Rate: 0.300069977009905 %

    India
    • Population: 1,352,642,280
    • Deaths: 450
    • Rate: 0.00003326 %

    So, the death rate in Guyas is 9,000 time higher than all of India!
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    Nobel laureate Luc Montagnier maintains that novel coronavirus had elements of HIV, and such modifications can only be made in a lab

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    UPDATE ON MY SISTER, who was tested for covid 19, two weeks ago. Remember , my sister Doretta has HIV for 35 years, stage 4 kidney, former drug addict , and present day drinker and chain smoker.

    so funny, she gets a call from the doctor who tells her she doesnt have it. and she says, whattt?? I wanted it! now i have to worry about getting it again!
    Hi Doug, does this mean she initially tested positive and is now negative? Or that she never had it to begin with? I wonder if her doctor gave her a serology test to see if she has IgG or IgM antibodies...

    In any case I'm happy to hear she's okay and well.

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    Breaking down the Covid-19 bio-weapon. My take
    When in doubt, do the next right thing.
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    Apologies if this was already posted somewhere.
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    Virologists are still not sure that recovery from Covid-19 ensures that one is immune from it in the future.

    Recovery from coronavirus may not confer immunity, warn experts

    Issued on: 17/04/2020 - 17:22 Modified: 17/04/2020 - 17:20

    The new coronavirus has thrown up one surprise after another, to the point where virologists and epidemiologists are sure of very little Eva Marie UZCATEGUI AFP/File

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    Even as virologists zero in on the virus that causes COVID-19, a very basic question remains unanswered: do those who recover from the disease have immunity?

    There is no clear answer to this question, experts say, even if many have assumed that contracting the potentially deadly disease confers immunity, at least for a while.

    "Being immunised means that you have developed an immune response against a virus such that you can repulse it," explained Eric Vivier, a professor of immunology in the public hospital system in Marseilles.

    "Our immune systems remember, which normally prevents you from being infected by the same virus later on."

    For some viral diseases such a measles, overcoming the sickness confers immunity for life.

    But for RNA-based viruses such as Sars-Cov-2 -- the scientific name for the bug that causes the COVID-19 disease -- it takes about three weeks to build up a sufficient quantity of antibodies, and even then they may provide protection for only a few months, Vivier told AFP.

    At least that is the theory. In reality, the new coronavirus has thrown up one surprise after another, to the point where virologists and epidemiologists are sure of very little.

    "We do not have the answers to that -- it's an unknown," Michael Ryan, executive director of the World Health Organization's Emergencies Programme said in a press conference this week when asked how long a recovered COVID-19 patient would have immunity.

    "We would expect that to be a reasonable period of protection, but it is very difficult to say with a new virus -- we can only extrapolate from other coronaviruses, and even that data is quite limited."

    For SARS, which killed about 800 people across the world in 2002 and 2003, recovered patients remained protected "for about three years, on average," Francois Balloux director of the Genetics Institute at University College London, told AFP.

    "One can certainly get reinfected, but after how much time? We'll only know retroactively."

    - False negatives -

    A recent study from China that has not gone through peer review reported on rhesus monkeys that recovered from Sars-Cov-2 and did not get reinfected when exposed once again to the virus.

    "But that doesn't really reveal anything," said Pasteur Institute researcher Frederic Tangy, noting that the experiment unfolded over only a month.

    Indeed,several cases from South Korea -- one of the first countries hit by the new coronavirus -- found that patients who recovered from COVID-19 later tested positive for the virus.

    But there are several ways to explain that outcome, scientists cautioned.

    While it is not impossible that these individuals became infected a second time, there is little evidence this is what happened.

    More likely, said Balloux, is that the virus never completely disappeared in the first place and remains -- dormant and asymptomatic -- as a "chronic infection", like herpes.

    As tests for live virus and antibodies have not yet been perfected, it is also possible that these patients at some point tested "false negative" when in fact they had not rid themselves of the pathogen.

    "That suggests that people remain infected for a long time -- several weeks," Balloux added. "That is not ideal."

    Another pre-publication study that looked at 175 recovered patients in Shanghai showed different concentrations of protective antibodies 10 to 15 days after the onset of symptoms.

    "But whether that antibody response actually means immunity is a separate question," commented Maria Van Kerhove, Technical Lead of the WHO Emergencies Programme.

    "That's something we really need to better understand -- what does that antibody response look like in terms of immunity."

    Indeed, a host of questions remain.

    "We are at the stage of asking whether someone who has overcome COVID-19 is really that protected," said Jean-Francois Delfraissy, president of France's official science advisory board.

    - Immunity passports -

    For Tangy, an even grimmer reality cannot be excluded.

    "It is possible that the antibodies that someone develops against the virus could actually increase the risk of the disease becoming worse," he said, noting that the most serious symptoms come later, after the patient had formed antibodies.

    For the moment, it is also unclear whose antibodies are more potent in beating back the disease: someone who nearly died, or someone with only light symptoms or even no symptoms at all. And does age make a difference?

    Faced with all these uncertainties, some experts have doubts about the wisdom of persuing a "herd immunity" strategy such that the virus -- unable to find new victims -- peters out by itself when a majority of the population is immune.

    "The only real solution for now is a vaccine," Archie Clements, a professor at Curtin University in Perth Australia, told AFP.

    At the same time, laboratories are developing a slew of antibody tests to see what proportion of the population in different countries and regions have been contaminated.

    Such an approach has been favoured in Britain and Finland, while in Germany some experts have floated the idea of an "immunity passport" that would allow people to go back to work.

    "It's too premature at this point," said Saad Omer, a professor of infectious diseases at the Yale School of Medicine.

    "We should be able to get clearer data very quickly -- in a couple of months -- when there will be reliable antibody tests with sensitivity and specificity."

    One concern is "false positives" caused by the tests detecting antibodies unrelated to COVID-19.

    The idea of immunity passports or certificates also raises ethical questions, researchers say.

    "People who absolutely need to work -- to feed their families, for example -- could try to get infected," Balloux.

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