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    Trump totally got this one right. The WHO has been criminally negligent, and increasingly transparently so. ~~~
    “They called it wrong.” Trump Declares “Powerful Hold” on Funding “China-centric” WHO

    President punishes globalist UN agency for siding with China amid pandemic

    President Trump on Tuesday declared the U.S. is suspending funds to the World Health Organization pending an investigation into why they failed to warn America about the potential for a coronavirus outbreak.

    During the announcement Tuesday in the White House briefing room, Trump slammed the World Health Organization for being wrong about his Chinese travel ban, and accused them of keeping vital information hidden from the US, labeling the globalist health authority “China-centric.”

    Read the president’s own statements on why he felt the need to suspend WHO funds, transcribed below:
    “The WHO receives vast amounts of money from the United States, and we pay for a majority… biggest portion of their money, and they actually criticized and disagreed with my travel ban at the time I did it, and they were wrong – they’ve been wrong about a lot of things.”

    “And they had a lot of information early and they didn’t want to… they seem to be very China-centric and we have to look into that. So we’re gonna look into it. We pay for… we give em a majority of the money that they get .

    “And it’s much more than the 58 –58 million dollars is a small portion of what they’ve gotten over the years. Sometimes they get much more than that. Sometimes it’s for programs they’re doing and it’s much bigger numbers, and if the programs are good then that’s great as far, as we’re concerned, but we wanna look into it.

    “World Health Organization – because they really are… They called it wrong. They called it wrong. They really they missed the call. They coulda called it months earlier. They woulda known, they shoulda known, and they probably did know. So we’ll be looking into that very carefully and we’re gonna put a hold on money spent to the World Health Organization.

    We’re gonna put a very powerful hold on it and we’re gonna see. It’s a great thing if it works, but when they call every shot wrong…”
    Trump also referred to the WHO as “China-centric” in a tweet early Tuesday.

    In one of the most infamous instances of the World Health Organization “getting it wrong,” or possibly putting out misinformation, the WHO tweeted on January 14 that there was no evidence of human-to-human coronavirus transmission, which has since proven false.

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    From https://theguardian.com/world/live/2...085d226cfd51c6, 3 hours ago, about the lockdown still in force in Wuhan:

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    Amid reports that life in Wuhan, the Chinese city where the coronavirus outbreak began in December, is returning to normal, a reader has written to give his experience of the easing of the lockdown.

    Although many Westerners left China at the beginning of the crisis, Mark Gaynor, who says he has lived in Wuhan for seven years, was in the city throughout the crisis. What has been widely reported as the end of Wuhan’s lockdown is somewhat different from his lived experience, he writes:

    What you’ve seen happen to day is the ‘exit door’ open to allow thousands of people who have been trapped in Wuhan for 76 days to finally go home.

    Life for residents of Wuhan is still more restricted than UK’s so-called lockdown. Each district is controlled by its own local authority so it’s not entirely uniform but the basics are the same.

    To leave the community residence you need a green health code via an app on your phone. This is tied to your Chinese ID card and logs who you are and where you are. Your temperature is also taken.

    To use the limited public transport you also need to log in and out using the app. Foreigners don’t have an ID card so they can’t use it.

    Anyone returning to work also needs a special certificate verifying that the business has been given permission to restart. Otherwise you’re expected to return to your home within two hours.

    Restaurants, cafes, stores, anywhere that people might gather are still closed. I can get to the supermarket five minutes walk from my apartment block, that’s all.

    One hour a day exercise? No way.

    So nobody should be mistaken that life in Wuhan is back to normal. And people in the UK need to think about what lockdown really means.

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    Coronavirus: Lockdowns are not best way to tackle COVID-19, says top WHO adviser
    Yahoo News UK James Morris,Yahoo News UK



    https://uk.yahoo.com/news/coronaviru...163518579.html

    A top World Health Organization adviser has said lockdowns are not the best way to tackle the coronavirus pandemic.

    More than a third of the world’s nations are under lockdown due to the COVID-19 crisis, which has cost more than 83,000 lives.

    However, Dr Bruce Aylward, senior adviser to WHO director general Dr Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, said the “key to stopping this” is instead testing, isolation and contact tracing.

    Speaking at a WHO press conference, he added: “We are in the middle of a war, here – a very, very serious war that we are only beginning to understand.

    “We have to accept we are in a situation and we have to do everything we can to save lives, reduce transmission, and get societies back to the new normal way of functioning.”

    Dr Aylward’s remarks about lockdowns would appear to be supported by the example of South Korea, where cafes and shops remain open.




    South Korea is seen by many as the world’s leader in restricting the spread of COVID-19 thanks to its extensive testing and contact tracing programme.


    This is despite initially being the second worst affected country, behind China, at the beginning of the outbreak. It has carried out 486,003 tests.

    This compares to the UK – population 66 million – which has been under lockdown for more than two weeks and now has a death toll of 7,097. There are 60,733 confirmed cases, with 232,708 tests carried out.

    Dr Youngmi Kim, an expert in Korean public policy from the University of Edinburgh, said it was the South Korean government’s speed at the beginning of the outbreak that made the key difference.

    She told Yahoo News UK last week: “They traced all these patients who got positive tests: where they visited and who they met. If they had visited supermarkets, shops or libraries, they closed those venues for two weeks and sanitised them.

    “Also, they investigated all those people they had contacted and they had the same testing procedure.”

    However, another reason why South Korea has been able to avoid lockdown is a special mobile phone app which pings when there is a coronavirus patient nearby: something which raises obvious civil liberty issues.

    Ps I would like to point out that news I paste is not my opinion --I just post what might be of interest -- as always --it may be so --or not-- as the case might be.
    I have set out my views early on and that too is may be so.
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    From https://theguardian.com/world/live/2...08ec70ceced2e9, 20 minutes ago. Not good news at all.

    (And wake up, any "it's just 5G" virus-deniers reading this: there's no 5G in the Amazon jungle. This is a virus. It's infectious.)
    Covid-19 fears grow for indigenous South Americans as Yanomami teen tests positive

    Fears over the devastating impact coronavirus could have on South America’s indigenous communities have grown after a teenager from Brazil’s Yanomami people tested positive for the illness in the Amazon.

    The 15-year-old is reportedly being treated in the intensive care unit of a hospital in Boa Vista, the capital of Roraima, the northern Brazilian state where much of the Yanomami reserve is located.

    The teenager was admitted last Friday complaining of chest pains, breathing difficulties and a sore throat and tested positive for the illness on Tuesday. (Read more)

    It comes after indigenous groups across South America blockaded their villages and retreated into their traditional forest and mountain homes in an effort to escape the potentially cataclysmic threat of coronavirus.


    And this article, too:

    "Coronavirus could wipe us out." Indigenous South Americans blockade villages
    (Read more)

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    From the Epoch Times yesterday. It looks extremely interesting, but I've NOT watched this yet.

    Exclusive investigative report: the first documentary movie on the origin of Covid-19



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    In the race to the bottom, locally, we are around 3,500 cases, 370 hospitalized. Sweden is around 8,500 and about 680 in serious condition.

    These charts will soon be less informative as greater numbers recover and leave the hospital. I would think they should make two charts, totals v. current.

    So far I don't see much difference in the infection rate, other than our outbreak was about two weeks later than theirs.

    Looks like it is bad in aircraft carriers, prisons, and nursing homes. Concentration in close quarters is obviously bad, but, "staying at home" does not seem to be a big improvement over normal distance and cleansing so far.

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    In the race to the bottom, locally, we are around 3,500 cases, 370 hospitalized. Sweden is around 8,500 and about 680 in serious condition.

    These charts will soon be less informative as greater numbers recover and leave the hospital. I would think they should make two charts, totals v. current.

    So far I don't see much difference in the infection rate, other than our outbreak was about two weeks later than theirs.

    Looks like it is bad in aircraft carriers, prisons, and nursing homes. Concentration in close quarters is obviously bad, but, "staying at home" does not seem to be a big improvement over normal distance and cleansing so far.
    Where are you shaberon?
    I ask because your member flag shows the U.S.
    Or by 'locally' did you mean just in your town or city?
    I took it to mean your country.
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    "In 2016, a pandemic drill was carried out in Britain with shocking results. Devastated by cuts, the NHS was overwhelmed. The govt was warned, but did nothing and the Dept of Health suppressed the conclusions. What has happened in 2020 is a state crime." - John Pilger


    Referring to,

    Exercise Cygnus was a simulation exercise carried out by the British government in October 2016[1] to estimate the impact of a hypothetical influenza pandemic on the United Kingdom. The exercise showed that the pandemic would cause the country's health system to collapse from a lack of resources,[2][3] with Sally Davies, the Chief Medical Officer at the time, stating that a lack of medical ventilators and the logistics of disposal of dead bodies were serious problems.[4][5] As of March 2020, the full results of the exercise remain classified.[6]

    Source: Wikipedia


    *******

    John Pilger on Going Underground



    And the interview, April 8th, 2020 here:



    On this episode of Going Underground, we speak to legendary journalist and film-maker John Pilger about the Coronavirus (COVID-19) pandemic. He discusses the fact that the Conservative government was warned about shortages leaving the NHS vulnerable in pandemics 4 years ago, the damage privatisation has done to the National Health Service, budget cuts which have seen bed capacities fall to record lows, his criticisms of the Boris Johnson administration’s response to Coronavirus, the lack of mass-testing in the U.K. which has been seen in other countries such as Germany, South Korea and China, the government blaming China for the Coronavirus crisis, the threat to Julian Assange’s life as he is denied release from prison as Coronavirus claims its first victim in Belmarsh Prison and more!

    ***

    Related:

    NHS England Board Paper PB.30.03.2017/10

    Exercise "Cygnus" 2016

    [6] Nick Ferrari exchange on LBC Radio with Sally Davies, then Care Minister (2017)

    Listen here: https://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presente...r-coronavirus/
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    This is also from the Epoch Times. I’m thinking maybe Trump could be right in calling coronavirus ‘the Chinese virus’ after all. The content below is yet to be verified. Hopefully it never will be. Chillingly nonetheless.


    Quote [Exclusive] Chinese Expert Warns that Recovered Virus Patients Could Remain Contagious | CCP Virus

    In a leaked internal speech, a Chinese military medical expert spoke to military medics and revealed that in recovered patients, the immune system is totally destroyed and they could remain contagious. The Epoch Times could not independently verify the claims this expert made.
    -
    A Chinese military medical expert revealed:

    I will remind you that this coronavirus (CCP virus) is just ferocious.
    You should protect yourself, you must.
    You must avoid contracting the virus and be very alert of this virus.
    It is very important to elevate your immunity.
    Why is it elevating your immunity the most important thing to do?
    You should not think of it as something not related to you.

    In fact, the medical field has long had suspicions about the origin of the virus.
    The first generation of the virus also spreads quickly, among family members.
    During the early outbreak, one third to half of the patients were dead.
    That was because the first generation of the virus was very potent.

    This is not as simple as pneumonia. This is huge.
    The in-patient specialists have reached a consensus.
    According to the current situation, the recovered patient could remain contagious.
    You will have to be careful at the clinics.
    Telemedicine could be the trend.
    So, you should find a way to avoid direct contact with these patients.
    You must pay high attention to thoroughly disinfecting the clinics.

    Now it shows that recovered patients continue to spread the virus.
    Do not expect a vaccine, let me tell you.
    Do not expect there'll be a vaccine.
    Those who talked about how vaccines can be developed are all charlatans.

    Those who have been infected will have a lot of trouble. (Now that it has spread far and wide,) what's next, how it will develop later, no one has a clue.

    This virus, in fact, is how humans are going to self-destruct.
    There is absolutely nothing we can do about it.
    These last two slides are very simple. They tell you that anyone with the infection could very well become the carrier.
    Therefore, you have to know what I am talking about. People around you, only heaven knows (who's the carrier).
    Video:


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    Some doctors moving away from ventilators for virus patients
    AP NEWS

    NEW YORK (AP) — As health officials around the world push to get more ventilators to treat coronavirus patients, some doctors are moving away from using the breathing machines when they can.

    The reason: Some hospitals have reported unusually high death rates for coronavirus patients on ventilators, and some doctors worry that the machines could be harming certain patients.

    More here:

    https://apnews.com/8ccd325c2be9bf454c2128dcb7bd616d
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    Quote Posted by Sophocles (here)
    This is also from the Epoch Times. I’m thinking maybe Trump could be right in calling coronavirus ‘the Chinese virus’ after all. The content below is yet to be verified. Hopefully it never will be. Chillingly nonetheless.


    Quote [Exclusive] Chinese Expert Warns that Recovered Virus Patients Could Remain Contagious | CCP Virus

    In a leaked internal speech, a Chinese military medical expert spoke to military medics and revealed that in recovered patients, the immune system is totally destroyed and they could remain contagious. The Epoch Times could not independently verify the claims this expert made.
    -
    A Chinese military medical expert revealed:

    I will remind you that this coronavirus (CCP virus) is just ferocious.
    You should protect yourself, you must.
    You must avoid contracting the virus and be very alert of this virus.
    It is very important to elevate your immunity.
    Why is it elevating your immunity the most important thing to do?
    You should not think of it as something not related to you.

    In fact, the medical field has long had suspicions about the origin of the virus.
    The first generation of the virus also spreads quickly, among family members.
    During the early outbreak, one third to half of the patients were dead.
    That was because the first generation of the virus was very potent.

    This is not as simple as pneumonia. This is huge.
    The in-patient specialists have reached a consensus.
    According to the current situation, the recovered patient could remain contagious.
    You will have to be careful at the clinics.
    Telemedicine could be the trend.
    So, you should find a way to avoid direct contact with these patients.
    You must pay high attention to thoroughly disinfecting the clinics.

    Now it shows that recovered patients continue to spread the virus.
    Do not expect a vaccine, let me tell you.
    Do not expect there'll be a vaccine.
    Those who talked about how vaccines can be developed are all charlatans.

    Those who have been infected will have a lot of trouble. (Now that it has spread far and wide,) what's next, how it will develop later, no one has a clue.

    This virus, in fact, is how humans are going to self-destruct.
    There is absolutely nothing we can do about it.
    These last two slides are very simple. They tell you that anyone with the infection could very well become the carrier.
    Therefore, you have to know what I am talking about. People around you, only heaven knows (who's the carrier).
    Video:

    This just sounds like more propaganda for supporting a mandatory virus - I expect they will try to cover every thought that they could use in their favor.

    The good thing is that more and more people are waking up. Now that people have more time on their hands, they are reading and learning something!

    Keep sharing info!

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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    ......It's infectious.)...
    ...Covid-19 fears grow for indigenous South Americans as Yanomami teen tests positive

    Fears over the devastating impact coronavirus could have on South America’s indigenous communities have grown after a teenager from Brazil’s Yanomami people tested positive for the illness in the Amazon.......
    'Tested positive' in what valid test? This repeatedly blamed 'test' used by all these reports and statistics has now had it's validity soundly debunked crystal clearly in medical terms from numerous independent sources.

    It appears you trust this mystery test implicitly since you keep citing new reports and statistics based on it. Can you show us the also-crystal-clear-in-medical-terms-credible-arguments substantiating the validity of this one mystery test that everyone around the world is supposedly using that has convinced you of it's trustworthyness? I haven't seen any basis for it's medical proof yet, a traditional real test apparently can take weeks and are absolutely never an overnight result.

    ----> Bottom line, isn't the most important question to us all the validity of 'the test reports/statistics' [B]?
    It's this 'test' that has been repeatedly and repeatedly being cited for weeks as THE valid excuse to ruin millions of lives, businesses and human rights worldwide. <----

    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    (And wake up, any "it's just 5G" virus-deniers reading this: there's no 5G in the Amazon jungle. This is a virus.
    Yes there are 'only dangerous in conjunction with 5g' qualifiers, not me. But I sense great ongoing disdain from you for people who are questioning the infectiousness of some aspect of this virus that is a plain old and 'non weaponized' that you seem to be insisting is true.

    Just please separate the 5g only people from test deniers. Test deniers are mostly not in denial of a lab created disease which appears to be triggered by more factors than just 5g, but yes, one of them is not as an airborne infectiousness. The test deniers strongly suspect the rampant contagiousness is a totally false premise being used as the main excuse to coerce mass self destruction through fear/compliance.

    One of the primary infectiousness contradictions being questioned by the acute infectiousness deniers is the use of the term virus. AIDS, for example, was also classified as a virus and was not infectious/contagious through the air. For now, we are siding with the virologists who are saying the lack of airborne infectiousness in things medically classified as 'virus' did not change.



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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    From https://theguardian.com/world/live/2...08ec70ceced2e9, 20 minutes ago. Not good news at all.

    (And wake up, any "it's just 5G" virus-deniers reading this: there's no 5G in the Amazon jungle. This is a virus. It's infectious.)[INDENT] Covid-19 fears grow for indigenous South Americans as Yanomami teen tests positive
    Bill, you've done this more than once already (tried to lump everyone into the same box).

    Yes there is a group of people who believe that 5G is responsible for ALL the Covid-19 symptoms we are seeing.

    There is also another group of people who believe there are MULTIPLE causes (stresses) that are responsible for the Covid-19 symptoms we are seeing,
    5G just being ONE of them. (ie. some people may be affected by 5G, other people may be affected by something else etc.).

    So I don't think it's a constructive thing to shout out to the '5G virus-deniers' with this 'proof', showing that they must be wrong.

    For these Amazon jungle people, perhaps there were other stressors (other than 5G) that made them sick.
    And perhaps the standard Covid-19 test simply caught the exosomes that were released to take care of the toxicity.

    It may not have been your intent to paint everyone who believes 5G could be producing the Covid-19 symptoms we see, with the same broad brush, but it sure came across that way.

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    Quote [Exclusive] Chinese Expert Warns that Recovered Virus Patients Could Remain Contagious | CCP Virus

    In a leaked internal speech, a Chinese military medical expert spoke to military medics and revealed that in recovered patients, the immune system is totally destroyed and they could remain contagious. The Epoch Times could not independently verify the claims this expert made.
    -
    A Chinese military medical expert revealed:

    I will remind you that this coronavirus (CCP virus) is just ferocious.

    [...]
    First of all, this claim looks like fear porn at its best:
    Quote ... in recovered patients, the immune system is totally destroyed and they could remain contagious.
    For those who don't get it:
    Quote The Epoch Times could not independently verify the claims this expert made.
    Ha ha ... they could not independently verify the claims ... The Epoch Times is just a CIA front shop.

    Quote Posted by Patient (here)
    This just sounds like more propaganda for supporting a mandatory virus - I expect they will try to cover every thought that they could use in their favor.
    They should call Covid-19 'the zombie virus' -- to rise the fear porn to an unprecedented level.
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    Tests --the news media keep touting that tests are going to make a big difference.
    The inventor of a test has said that this should not be used in infectious cases -- it was posted.
    David Icke claimed that tests would show positive for just about anything in the human body - that may be an exaggeration on my part --memory not that good -- but whatever the tests are not proof that this current virus exist in a tested person.
    David Icke is not maintaining that 5G is responsible for this virus just that it weakens the immune system, that places where there is 5G would probably have more severe cases of the virus.
    Think London has 5G.

    Another point - way back I pointed out these thread posts do not appear main page -- this makes it more difficult for guests to find information, can this be rectified?
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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    From the Epoch Times yesterday. It looks extremely interesting, but I've NOT watched this yet.

    Exclusive investigative report: the first documentary movie on the origin of Covid-19


    I actually thought the first half of this was very well done. Informative, well researched, verifiable facts. I almost posted that this is a must see for everyone after watching about 15 minutes of it. I'm glad I finished it before posting though, because..

    I was so disappointed by the 2nd half of it. The 2nd half is all about the USA vs China. It's all about being anti China, anti communism, "we're at war with China", "The real enemy is communism" propaganda. Everything that they're saying about China, The US is doing too. They're accusing China of doing research into biochemical weapons. Are we really to believe the US is not doing that? They're accusing the Chinese media of not telling the whole truth and of just disseminating propaganda... I mean, REALLY? Talk about the pot calling the cattle black.

    It's very clearly two parts: one very informative, without name calling or hidden agenda or anything. And then all of a sudden it shifts gears and goes into 'CHINA BAD, US GOOD' mode. Shame really.

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    Coronavirus: Police 'could start searching shopping trolleys' as people continue to flout lockdown

    Yahoo News UK Andy Wells,Yahoo News UK

    https://uk.yahoo.com/news/coronaviru...104151118.html


    A police chief has warned his force are just “a few days away” from searching shopping trolleys to make sure people are sticking to the strict coronavirus guidelines.

    With the government meeting to discuss an extension to the lockdown, Northamptonshire Police Chief Constable Nick Adderley has said the force will now ramp up the enforcement of coronavirus regulations as the “three-week grace period is over”.

    Warning that people in the county could now face fines or a criminal record for breaking the rules, Adderley said measure may include roadblocks and “marshalling” supermarkets and checking the items in baskets and trolleys.

    According to the police chief, a small number of people had been flouting the regulations – with some officers being "baited" by members of the public.
    Chief Constable of Northamptonshire Police, Nick Adderley, speaking during a press conference at Northamptonshire Police HQ at Wootton Hall Park, Northampton about the death of Harry Dunn.
    Chief Constable Nick Adderley warned that people in the county could now face fines or a criminal record for breaking lockdown rules. (PA)

    He said: “The role of the police is to preserve lives and protect property and we have to do that and we will do that.

    “If things don’t improve, and we don’t get the compliance we would expect, then the next stage will be road blocks and it will be stopping people to ask why they are going, where they’re going.


    “This is about reasonableness and if people are not reasonable in terms of the journeys and the trips they are taking, they are going to fall foul of the law.

    “We will not, at this stage, be setting up road blocks. We will not, at this stage, start to marshal supermarkets and checking the items in baskets and trolleys to see whether it’s a legitimate, necessary item.

    “But again, be under no illusion, if people do not heed the warnings and the pleas I’m making today, we will start to do that.”

    Commenting on what people should be shopping for, Adderley went on: “The issue about, what is a necessary item, only go out for necessities – what is a necessity?

    “If we’re stopping somebody because they’ve bought a barbecue set or they’ve bought a child’s toy, you could argue that’s not necessary.

    “On the other hand, you could argue it absolutely is necessary – because in terms of the mental health and trying to keep people entertained over this period of lockdown, that is very necessary.

    “So the nuances and the interpretation is really ambiguous – that’s why I’m saying to officers, use your common sense, use your discretion.

    “I think the guidance could be even clearer, but it’s where do you draw the line?”

    Speaking about the new approach, Adderley said: "These are not guidelines anymore. This is the law.”

    Chief Constable Adderley said forces were “damned if you do, damned if you don’t” when it comes to policing the new rules, and he added that government guidance on how to police the rules “could be even clearer”.

    His comments come as Greater Manchester Police revealed they had broken up nearly 500 house parties during lockdown, despite strict instructions about social distancing from the government.
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    Tucker Carlson 9 april ,a 7 minute summary of the latest numbers in the states,and more hopefull looking prognoses in contrast with non stop doom scenarios of all the mainstream outlets.




    Tucker: Are some of our leaders and the media addicted to doom and gloom?
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    Quote Posted by Deneon (here)
    It's very clearly two parts: one very informative, without name calling or hidden agenda or anything. And then all of a sudden it shifts gears and goes into 'CHINA BAD, US GOOD' mode. Shame really.
    Thanks for the synopsis. My home country the US, especially as of late, is going embarrassingly pedal to the metal with us “good guy”, and anyone who isn’t exactly in line with our interests “bad guy”. Most notably the big 4: China, Russia, Iran, Venezuela.

    Hypocrisy abounds...

    Just seeing “Wuhon Virus” in the title was good enough for me to pass on by, I’ve seen plenty of that crap from our national politicians already, as a matter of fact I’m pretty sure that particular term was first pushed by our neocon Secretary of State Mr. “We lied, we cheated, we stole” Mike Pompeo.

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    In Chris Martenson's video of last night US time, here...


    ...he cites a 7 April Los Angeles Times article stating that US Federal authorities have been seizing equipment from local areas with no explanation, and the equipment has completely disappeared.

    Chris Martenson observes:



    Here's the article. It may be very important. As Chris Martenson states, it's weird (at least!), and may be an indicator of something very unpleasant and even criminal going on. A PDF is archived here.

    If this disappears, or there's no follow-up, it means the LA times reporters are being silenced.
    Hospitals say feds are seizing masks and other coronavirus supplies without a word

    7 April, 2020

    Although President Trump has directed states and hospitals to secure what supplies they can, the federal government is quietly seizing orders, leaving medical providers across the country in the dark about where the material is going and how they can get what they need to deal with the coronavirus pandemic.

    Hospital and clinic officials in seven states described the seizures in interviews over the past week. The Federal Emergency Management Agency is not publicly reporting the acquisitions, despite the outlay of millions of dollars of taxpayer money, nor has the administration detailed how it decides which supplies to seize and where to reroute them.

    Officials who’ve had materials seized also say they’ve received no guidance from the government about how or if they will get access to the supplies they ordered. That has stoked concerns about how public funds are being spent and whether the Trump administration is fairly distributing scarce medical supplies.

    “In order to have confidence in the distribution system, to know that it is being done in an equitable manner, you have to have transparency,” said Dr. John Hick, an emergency physician at Hennepin Healthcare in Minnesota who has helped develop national emergency preparedness standards through the National Academies of Sciences, Engineering and Medicine.

    The medical leaders on the front lines of the fight to control the coronavirus and keep patients alive say they are grasping for explanations. “We can’t get any answers,” said a California hospital official who asked not to be identified for fear of retaliation from the White House.

    In Florida, a large medical system saw an order for thermometers taken away. And officials at a system in Massachusetts were unable to determine where its order of masks went.

    “Are they stockpiling this stuff? Are they distributing it? We don’t know,” one official said. “And are we going to ever get any of it back if we need supplies? It would be nice to know these things.”

    PeaceHealth, a 10-hospital system in Washington, Oregon and Alaska, had a shipment of testing supplies seized recently. “It’s incredibly frustrating,” said Richard DeCarlo, the system’s chief operating officer.

    “We had put wheels in motion with testing and protective equipment to allow us to secure and protect our staff and our patients,” he said. “When testing went off the table, we had to come up with a whole new plan.”

    Although PeaceHealth doesn’t have hospitals in the Seattle area, where the first domestic coronavirus outbreak occurred, the system has had a steady stream of potentially infected patients who require testing and care by doctors and nurse in full protective equipment.

    Trump and other White House officials, including his close advisor and son-in-law Jared Kushner, have insisted that the federal government is using a data-driven approach to procure supplies and direct them where they are most needed.

    In response to questions from The Times, a FEMA representative said the agency, working with the Department of Health and Human Services and the Department of Defense, has developed a system for identifying needed supplies from vendors and distributing them equitably.

    The representative said the agency factors in the populations of states and major metropolitan areas and the severity of the coronavirus outbreak in various locales. “High-transmission areas were prioritized, and allocations were based on population, not on quantities requested,” the representative said.

    But the agency has refused to provide any details about how these determinations are made or why it is choosing to seize some supply orders and not others. Administration officials also will not say what supplies are going to what states.

    Using the Defense Production Act, a Korean War-era law that allows the president to compel the production of vital equipment in a national emergency, Trump last month ordered General Motors to produce ventilators to address shortfalls at hospitals.

    The law also empowers federal agencies to place orders for critical materials and to see that those get priority over orders from private companies or state and local governments.

    Experts say judicious use of this authority could help bring order to the medical supply market by routing critical material — ventilators, masks and other protective gear — from suppliers to the federal government and then to areas of greatest need, such as New York.

    Yet there is little indication that federal officials are controlling the market, as hospitals, doctors and others report paying exorbitant prices or resorting to unorthodox maneuvers to get what they need.

    Hospital and health officials describe an opaque process in which federal officials sweep in without warning to expropriate supplies.

    Jose Camacho, who heads the Texas Assn. of Community Health Centers, said his group was trying to purchase a small order of just 20,000 masks when his supplier reported that the order had been taken.

    Camacho was flabbergasted. Several of his member clinics — which as primary care centers are supposed to alleviate pressure on overburdened hospitals — are struggling to stay open amid woeful shortages of protective equipment.

    “Everyone says you are supposed to be on your own,” Camacho said, noting Trump’s repeated admonition that states and local health systems cannot rely on Washington for supplies. “Then to have this happen, you just sit there wondering what else you can do. You can’t fight the federal government.”

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