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    Tigger I do have blueberries that I have been picking over the past two months. You can see them in the image below before they are ripe. I have four plants in four pots approximately 14x14 inches. There are many varieties and there should be varieties that will grow in all different kinds of climates, so check out the best ones for your area. I have mine in pots as they need special soil that is acid and peaty or something like that. I use some pine needles in the soil and I mulch the top with more to keep it more acid and use more acid fertilisers like Chicken manure, some compost and small amounts of liquid seaweed with just a pinch of dolomite because that is magnesium and calcium, and it is alkaline so you need to be very careful with that. They need to be well drained and kept moist.



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    I love growing snow peas too as they are great steamed and eaten raw in salads etc. They enjoy the climate being cool, but not frosty. They don't do so well in the hot months. Some of mine gorowing in the image below. I also grow other types of peas that can grow when it is a bit warmer and I freeze bags of them every year so I have them all year round on hand. The same with the beans.

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    Here are my raspberries growing in the greenhouse. They are just finishing up now and there should be more in the Autumn with an autumn fruiting variey a bit later on. They freeze well too, make great jams and cordial too.

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    Tigger, you mentioned having trouble with the carrots, I wonder if you also have slugs that come out at night and eat the emerging seedlings? That's why I had to change over to growing carrots in the 1/2 barrels to keep them away from the ground and use the copper tape on the edges of the barrels as slugs won't go over copper.
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    What can I find to Eat in Our Overgrown Vegetable Garden?
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    This video runs for approx. 22 minutes. The presenter (Mark) takes you on a tour through his vegetable garden which, understandably, has been soaked with rainfall this year and has become overgrown. He looks for food that he can use to cook a meal for his family.
    Mark lives in the subtropics in QLD, Australia and he’s been a very big inspiration for me. At his location (27 degrees South latitude (similar to Florida USA)), his climate is a little different to mine (at 17 degrees South latitude), and he can grow some salad crops in a far more forgiving environment.



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    I am not a gardener myself, but my neighbor is. He just received a Greenstalk vertical growing system for his patio and he is quite excited. I had never heard of them, but they have quite a following, although I think they may just be in the US. Apparently their quality is quite good. I'm just thinking it might be a nice option for those with little space but a green thumb. I'm sorry I am not showing pictures, but it is easily found online.


    From Bill:
    Here's the web page, and below are some of the images:

    https://greenstalkgarden.com/collect...tical-planters





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    Quote Posted by wondering (here)
    I am not a gardner myself, but my neighbor is. He just received a Greenstalk vertical growing system for his patio and he is quite excited. I had never heard of them, but they have quite a following, although I think they may just be in the US. Apparently their quality is quite good. I'm just thinking it might be a nice option for those with little space but a green thumb. I'm sorry I am not showing pictures, but it is easily found online.

    Hi Wondering , that does sound like a really good idea. You could have fresh salad and herbs or strawberries maybe right near your door!
    I found this link to Green Stalk Garden and you see there different styles and colours available.

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    I've invested in a couple of raised beds (still to be assembled - it's a bit too early here in the UK) to grow vegetables this year and also, following Wondering/Harmony's posts above I've just ordered some vertical planters. My main problem has always been enough sunlight, which disappears over the roof at around midday. Nevertheless there are vegetable varieties which should still do quite well.

    The concern I have is that the authorities will make it a crime to grow anything other than Monsanto vegetables, if we're allowed to grow anything at all, and that all food will become part of the digital currency/social credit system. Some systems work indoors although imo the nature of hydroponics infers nutrient loss. Anybody?
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    Thank you for adding the info to the post, Bill. It is said that they do well for root vegetables, which surprises me since I wouldn't think there would be much room. I trust my neighbor, he has the absolute greenest thumb and everything he touches grows, seriously. I haven't asked him yet what he plans to plant. Being right outside the door would make it great for herbs - they eat a totally plant based diet. Being able to revolve or move them might help with getting sunlight, too.
    I read recently that here in Michigan there is some push back to growing your own food, which boggles my mind. At the beginning of Covid, our governor, Gretchen Witmer, would not allow seed packets to be sold in stores....they were considered nonessential, and were "roped off" and not sold.
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    Quote I trust my neighbor, he has the absolute greenest thumb and everything he touches grows, seriously. I haven't asked him yet what he plans to plant.
    Wondering It seems your neighbour would be just the person to ask in your area what would do best and what soil to use in the posts etc. Carrots can grow quite close together given the right nutrients. It seems potatoes would do better in a separate larger box. It is surprising how many potatoes can be grown in a small area with the right soil and depth.


    Even if you just have something to fall back on to give you time to transition if a new situation presents itself, and use with the food you have put away for emergiencies, cans and dried foods etc., that is something. Sprouting can also help with having some nice fresh food. I sprouted seeds indoors on the kitchen windowsill and used them as a salad last winter during the cooler months when lovely lettuces and greens don't do as well outside.


    The cabbage family have lovely geens that can be grown during autumn and early spring, like Tatsoi and Pak Choy and are lovely used as or with a salad, especially when picked right before you eat them. In the cooler months.


    English spinich is also lovely to grow and eat.


    Green onion like shallots are also easy to grow and lovely to add to salads and stir fries. I often just cut off the second leaf to the newest and leave them to grow for years just taking what I need. They will flower and you can save the seeds and replant them too and also they create their own off shoots that you can divide and create more plants.


    Those are good questions Miller and Wondering regarding making growing food illegal. I often think also if laws were changed, what would happen to growers? I would hope people who were hungry would disregard them, as that would be the ultimate ridiculous thing to do.


    If there was so much going on would anyone even notice what you have in your garden, except to steal food? Would it be the last straw and make people revolt against tyranical laws, especially if there were food shortages? I don't think anyone can be 100% sure, and over the past number of years that has been predicted I just continue to grow and experiment with growing food and ways that food can be preserved and dried etc.

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    Miller, How exciting that you have ordered some vertical planters.. they make a lot of sense in some situations. I hope you report back your experience with them. When my neighbor started his raised beds, he used cardboard as a base, and once the growing season was over he laid the sides down flat...I know that due to our mild fall, that they were eating kale into the holidays and beyond.

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    Quote Posted by wondering (here)
    I read recently that here in Michigan there is some push back to growing your own food, which boggles my mind. At the beginning of Covid, our governor, Gretchen Witmer, would not allow seed packets to be sold in stores....they were considered nonessential, and were "roped off" and not sold.
    Wow. That is insanity. This kind of thing only confirms the importance of connecting with others in one's area who save open-pollinated seeds from their gardens, and of encouraging the establishment of community seed libraries that everyone can benefit from.
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    Sweet potatoes are growing like mad with all the rain, heat and high humidity:

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    As an experiment, I planted some of the ‘Red Lady’ potatoes left over from the last harvest. Planting them in December (right at the start of the tropical wet season), I was unsure how they would grow in the off-season. But after a few weeks the plants emerged and they are growing quite well. I’m not expecting the yield to be all that great, but they will make healthy seed potatoes ready for re-sowing in May or June:

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    Default Re: What did you plant today? Garden and Farming for FOOD SECURITY.

    I doubt that a sentence about “food security” has ever included the word “truffles”.

    However, if one could find and sell some nice truffles, one could hypothetically afford to buy their way out of most of those problems. Vid says top price, for the picker, is 10k Euros per kilo.

    Not mentioned here, is that pigs are also used to sniff out this edible fungus. Not surprising to anyone who knows pigs (smart, and probably fully cultured), they like to chow down on them too, thus lowering the price of whatever can be salvaged.

    Last edit, please see from around 3:00 (of 5:11 total), about how they can be cultivated. Reminds me of how I read, as a young man, that planting Black Walnut trees could ensure a nice future for kids and grandkids.

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    Default Re: What did you plant today? Garden and Farming for FOOD SECURITY.

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    I bought some vertical felt pocket planters from ebay and today I moved strawberry plants out of a big pot where they had been for years - at least 5 years - the planter I used today has 12 pockets (3 x 4).... and I hung it off a tall wooden fence -

    I was amazed at the roots on them - a thick and woody main root stem with the thinner ones coming out from it - don't know if they will be happy moving - but will see how they do - they are very mature plants - will be making more effort this year to pot up the new shoots coming off -

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    In pots - have so far planted rocket, marigold, some coriander, nasturtium, seed potatoes (in a big bag).... covered the pots with bubble wrap while the weather can still be very cold at night (Midlands, UK)....

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    I had all my own seeds in separate containers on a window ledge last autumn - then a big wood pigeon came in the living room - must have just walked in from the garden through the back door - panicked and flapped it's wings like crazy at the glass and knocked all the seeds onto the floor - I got them up with a dust pan and brush and now have to separate them (but am leaving some mixed and letting them come up together) - I caught the wood pigeon as gently as I could and put it out before it did itself some damage - they are clever and beautiful birds - daily visitors (to the garden not my living room ) - I remember seeing a video once where a pigeon out witted and matched flying speeds with a peregrine falcon !!! Might try and find it again to see what kind of pigeon it was not sure a wood pigeon would be THAT fast - but you never know - - they seem quite comical sometimes especially when they stand on the window ledge outside and stare through the glass and look you in the eye -

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    Established watercress in a big plastic container (2 foot by 3 foot) coming on with new growth from the natural seeding last year... bubble wrap over it to protect the tiny seedlings for a while - 2 pots of chives doing very well and was the earliest of all the established pots... lemon balm and mint on the brink of coming up in the open squares where a couple of slabs were taken up.... parsley went through the winter and is picking up again and growing now -

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    phew when you write about it all you realize what a lot goes on even in a small garden - and I haven't mentioned everything -

    ...

    that's all for now - - - and don't forget - this is the time (in the UK anyway) to pick the top buds of the stinging nettle wild plant - I made my first teapot full of nettle tea yesterday and it is good hot or cold - in fact I prefer it cold - going to make an effort to put it as a main ingredient in home made soup any day now -

    toodle pip ....

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    jaybee, you have been busy in your garden.What is also wonderful, is your wildlife that lives right amongst it all. I have always been amazed at how a small area can support trillions of live forms, from the smallest soil organisms to insects, birds and frogs and lizards. Each little ecosystem develops within all the plants and little pots that provide habitat. I often find it hard to weed because they also seem quite beautiful, but sometimes will take over everything if you don't keep the numbers down. I do hope with the Spring coming on now that all your plantings will flourish and bring you lots of joy and goodness from the sun

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    It’s time to start harvesting my turmeric. The yield is incredible; here is a photo of about 10% of the harvest so far:

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    The rhizomes are quite large. I’m yet to harvest the remaining plants, but it’s safe to say that curries and juices will be on the menu for a long time!

    Here’s a recipe for a very nutritious and immune-boosting juice:

    My ‘Immune-Boosting’ Morning Cleanse Juice:
    5-6 oranges, peeled and diced
    6-8 large carrots, diced
    1-2 inches (or more) sliced Turmeric root. Note that adding more than this will make the juice more ‘tart’
    1/2 inch sliced ginger root

    Serves approximately 4. You can store the excess juice in the refrigerator.

    Prepare the items above and pass them through a slow (macerating) juicer. Collect the juice and drink within 24-48 hours.

    If you don’t have a slow juicer, you can still make this in a standard juicer machine - just pour the juice through a strainer to remove some of the pulp.

    If you have a worm farm, the pulp will make an excellent food for the worms to break down.

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    Default Re: What did you plant today? Garden and Farming for FOOD SECURITY.

    Wow Tigger, your turmeric looks great. It's so satisfying when you have a good harvest after all your dedicated work. Is there a way you can freeze or preserve some termeric for future use? Thanks so much for sharing Tigger, I was just wondering how your garden was going yesterday.

    Presently I am picking about a kilogram of cherry tomatoes every couple of days and lots of apples. I am making sure the tomatoes are red and ripe and putting them into small bags whole for later use in cooking. They taste so delicious when added to recipies. I am peeling and slicing the apples and drying them in a fruit dryer, then packaging for later use and it is working well, still preserving the flavour and sweetness and keeping the best apples in a cool dark place to eat fresh for a few months. Also there has been plenty to share with others that appreciate fresh organic produce from the harvest.

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    Default Re: What did you plant today? Garden and Farming for FOOD SECURITY.

    Yes, Harmony, we keep some of the rhizomes in cool storage to re-plant next season. We also freeze-dry some of it and use it for dried spices.

    I’m jealous (in a good way) that you can grow apples. They don’t grow so well up here in the tropics (so I’m told) but I do want to give it a try, because at our altitude (870m above sea level) we have cold (but short) winters. Apples are my favourite fruit, and I love to cook with them and juice them. So far I’ve been buying them from the local market, but considering how tenuous the supply lines are running of late, I have nothing to lose from attempting to grow them up here.

    I must get a fruit dryer. Freeze-drying is okay, but there’s nothing better than dried bananas, mangoes, paw-paw, etc.

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    Default Re: What did you plant today? Garden and Farming for FOOD SECURITY.

    Tigger, your tumeric harvest is fantastic! It seems so exotic to me that someone can grow their own tumeric root, though I suppose things that we consider common here (haskap berries, Saskatoon berries, etc.) might seems exotic somewhere else. My idea of Heaven would be to have lemons and avocados growing in my yard.

    I am just getting started sowing seeds for transplants (tomatoes and peppers). They'll be moved outside in late May/early June. I winter-sowed brassicas (kale and cabbage, mostly) and rhubarb outside in "milk jug greenhouses". Hopefully, those will germinate and start to grow in earnest later this month.

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    I have been making applesauce today. Our market typically bags up the leftover apples into dollar bags when the new shipment comes in, so if I am there I buy up the dollar bags and come home and make applesauce to freeze in pint containers. I mash the cooked apples and add ceylon cinnamon and sometimes a bit of honey if they are tart.

    My spinach, kale, radishes and lettuce is almost ready to start eating. Swiss chard doing well, too.
    The parsley came back from last season, as did the oregano, mint and thyme. Had to re-plant basil seeds. I do love going outside to snip the herbs I need for a recipe.
    I think I could supply the town with fresh oregano, as it grows so easily and spreads like crazy!
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    Default Re: What did you plant today? Garden and Farming for FOOD SECURITY.

    Dear All,

    Can someone please offer some insight to this conundrum? Last year I grew some fantastic ‘Royal Blue’ potatoes from certified seed stock. I kept some of those for re-planting, and I planted these out in November 2023. Admittedly, it was during the summer, and I was not expecting a high yield. All I wanted to do was to create more ‘seed stock’ for sowing in the autumn months (i.e now).

    Imagine my surprise when I pulled up the potatoes today:

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    Look at the formations. There are ‘nodules’ on most of the tubers. Some look diseased. That’s not normal, is it? I mean, they look more like a ginger root.

    I thought about planting these out again this month (April, in the southern hemisphere) in the hope that they will grow more productively and true-to-type, but something tells me I should just scrap them and order some more certified seed potatoes and try again.

    Does anyone have any thoughts on this?

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    Default Re: What did you plant today? Garden and Farming for FOOD SECURITY.

    Tigger, I do think those potatoes won't be any good to replant. Try looking up potato disease images and you will see there are quite a few things that can cause problems.


    It might be a very good idea to talk to the people in your area that know the best type for your soil and climate conditions.


    The soil friability and drainage and nutrients will play a big part in the outcome. Drainage and sunshine are very important and the available nutrients, as I am sure you already are aware of.


    The right variety can make a big difference, and I find Dutch Creams do particularly well where I am, it is wet cool and unpredictable sometimes. They have a waxier flesh and seem to be able to handle the moisture levels better here. Wonderful for potato salads, frying and steaming. Not as good for mashed potatoes though. I have been able to replant from existing stock potatoes for about 5 years and the potatoes were here in the garden when I came. I always add some new varieties and new seed potatoes as well to keep things fresh and interesting with a good gene pool.


    If it is wet or you have had an especially wet season make sure no water can build up in the soil where rot can set in. Don't replant potatoes in that same soil now, refurbish the soil and plant something else there that is not in the nightshade family. The soil needs to be open and loose, so add some compost and even potting mix to get it right. Add a bit more each year and you will notice lots of earthworms and organisms start to build up as it improves. Potatoes like a slightly acid soil.


    If you peel the potatoes and they look ok on the inside you could still cook with them perhaps.

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