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    Landmark Study Finds Masks Are Ineffective
    by Dr. Joseph Mercola
    December 03, 2020
    https://articles.mercola.com/sites/a...rid=1025951918

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    "STORY AT-A-GLANCE
    The first randomized controlled trial of more than 6,000 individuals to assess the effectiveness of surgical face masks against SARS-CoV-2 infection found masks did not statistically significantly reduce the incidence of infection
    Among mask wearers, 1.8% ended up testing positive for SARS-CoV-2, compared to 2.1% among controls. When they removed the people who did not adhere to proper mask use, the results remained the same — 1.8%, which suggests adherence makes no significant difference
    Among those who reported wearing their face mask “exactly as instructed,” 2% tested positive for SARS-CoV-2 compared to 2.1% of the controls
    1.4% tested positive for antibodies at the end of the month-long study compared to 1.8% of controls
    0.5% in the mask group and 0.6% tested positive for one or more respiratory viruses other than SARS-CoV-2

    The first randomized controlled trial1,2 to assess the effectiveness of surgical face masks against SARS-CoV-2 infection specifically — which journals initially refused to publish — is finally seeing the light of day.

    The so-called “Danmask-19 Trial,” published November 18, 2020, in the Annals of Internal Medicine,3 included 3,030 individuals assigned to wear a surgical face mask and 2,994 unmasked controls. Of them, 80.7% completed the study.

    To qualify, participants had to spend at least three hours per day outside the home and not be required to wear a mask during their daily work. At the end of the study, participants reported having spent a median of 4.5 hours per day outside the home.

    For one month, participants in the mask group were instructed to wear a mask whenever they were outside their home. Surgical face masks with a filtration rate of 98% were supplied. In accordance with recommendations from the World Health Organization, participants were instructed to change their mask after eight hours.

    Antibody testing was performed before the outset and at the end of the study period. At the end of the month, they also submitted a nasal swab sample for PCR testing.

    What the Danmask-19 Trial Found
    The primary outcome was a positive PCR test, a positive antibody test result (IgM or IgG) during the study period, or a hospital-based diagnosis of COVID-19. Secondary end points included PCR evidence of infection with other respiratory viruses.

    Based on the adherence scores reported, 46% of participants always wore the mask as recommended, 47% predominantly as recommended and 7% failed to follow recommendations. So, what did they find? As you might expect, there’s a reason why the researchers had such a hard time getting this study published:

    Among mask wearers, 1.8% (42 participants) ended up testing positive for SARS-CoV-2, compared to 2.1% (53) among controls. When they removed the people who reported not adhering to the recommendations for use, the results remained the same — 1.8% (40 people), which suggests adherence makes no significant difference.
    1.4% (33 participants) tested positive for antibodies compared to 1.8% (44) of controls.
    Among those who reported wearing their face mask “exactly as instructed,” 2% (22 participants) tested positive for SARS-CoV-2 compared to 2.1% (53) of the controls.
    52 participants in the mask group and 39 in the control group reported COVID-19 in their household. Of these, two participants in the mask group and one in the control group developed SARS-CoV-2 infection — a finding that suggests “the source of most observed infections was outside the home.”
    0.5% (nine participants) in the mask group and 0.6% (11 individuals) tested positive for one or more respiratory viruses other than SARS-CoV-2 (secondary outcome).
    Masks May Lower, or Raise, Infection Risk
    All in all, this landmark COVID-19-specific study failed to deliver good news to those who insist face masks are a crucial component of the pandemic response. Masks may reduce your risk of SARS-CoV-2 infection by as much as 46%, or it may increase your risk by 23%. In other words, the preponderance of evidence still shows that masks have virtually no impact on viral transmission.

    Another take-home point that you get from this study, which Del Bigtree points out in The Highwire video report above, is that the vast majority — 97.9% of those who didn’t wear masks, and 98.2% of those who did — remained infection free.

    So, we are destroying economies and lives around the world, for what, exactly? To protect a small minority from getting a positive PCR test result which, as detailed in “Asymptomatic ‘Casedemic’ Is a Perpetuation of Needless Fear,” means little to nothing. As reported by the authors:4

    “Although no statistically significant difference in SARS-CoV-2 incidence was observed, the 95% CIs are compatible with a possible 46% reduction to 23% increase in infection among mask wearers.

    These findings do offer evidence about the degree of protection mask wearers can anticipate in a setting where others are not wearing masks and where other public health measures, including social distancing, are in effect …

    Transmission of SARS-CoV-2 may take place through multiple routes. It has been argued that for the primary route of SARS-CoV-2 spread — that is, via droplets — face masks would be considered effective, whereas masks would not be effective against spread via aerosols, which might penetrate or circumnavigate a face mask. Thus, spread of SARS-CoV-2 via aerosols would at least partially explain the present findings …

    The present findings are compatible with the findings of a review of randomized controlled trials of the efficacy of face masks for prevention (as personal protective equipment) against influenza virus …

    Our results suggest that the recommendation to wear a surgical mask when outside the home among others did not reduce, at conventional levels of statistical significance, the incidence of SARS-CoV-2 infection in mask wearers in a setting where social distancing and other public health measures were in effect, mask recommendations were not among those measures, and community use of masks was uncommon.”

    Government Tyrants Double Down on Mask Mandates
    The researchers point out that results could potentially turn out differently if everyone were wearing a mask. At the time of the study, Danish authorities did not recommend universal mask use and most Danes did not wear them. Hence “participants’ exposure was overwhelmingly to persons not wearing masks.”

    That possibility, however, is a big “if,” and not sufficient to mandate universal mask wearing. Any claim to such effect is nothing but a wholly unscientific guess. Despite that, many local leaders are now doubling down on mask mandates, some even requiring them to be worn inside your own home when anyone outside the family is present and even if physical distancing can be maintained.5

    As an example of extremes, a June 2020 Harvard University paper6,7 even suggested couples should wear face masks during sex. Others are tripling down on masks, recommending you wear two or even three at the same time.8 Former Food and Drug Administration commissioner Dr. Scott Gottlieb is urging Americans to wear N95 surgical masks whenever possible.9

    Epidemic of Spineless Leadership
    Missing entirely from most recommendations is common-sense health guidance known to improve your immune function and lower your infection risk naturally, such as supplementing with vitamin D, NAC, melatonin, quercetin and zinc.

    As noted by Angela Rasmussen, a virologist and affiliate of the Georgetown Center for Global Health Science and Security, in a November 15, 2020, op-ed in The Guardian,10 our immune systems know how to handle the virus; it’s our politicians who have failed to cope with it. She writes:11

    “Most of the evidence in both COVID-19 patients and animal models shows that the immune response to this is quite typical for an acute viral infection. Initially, the body ramps up high levels of IgG antibodies, but after the infection is cleared, those antibodies drop to a baseline level, which may be below the limit of detection of some serological tests.

    Antibodies are produced by B-cells, a specialized type of immune cell that recognizes a specific antigen, or viral target. When an infection is cleared, B-cells producing antibodies convert from being plasma cells, which are specialized to pump out massive quantities of SARS-CoV-2-specific antibodies, to being memory B-cells.

    These cells produce lower levels of IgG antibody; but, importantly they persist in the body for years. If they are re-exposed to SARS-CoV-2, they rapidly convert to plasma cells and begin producing high levels of antibody again.

    There is no indication that most COVID-19 patients are not developing immune memory, and animals experimentally infected with SARS-CoV-2 are protected against rechallenge with high doses of virus …

    Furthermore, antibodies are not the only important part of the immune system. T-cells are also a key component to the immune response. They come in two flavors: helper T-cells, which coordinate immune responses and facilitate immunological memory, and killer T-cells, which kill infected cells. Previous studies have shown that SARS-CoV-2 infection induces robust T-cell responses.”

    As noted by Rasmussen, the data collected on the responses of T-cells to SARS-CoV-2 infection “underscore that SARS-CoV-2 is not an anomalous virus capable of miraculous feats of immune evasion.”

    No matter how strictly mask laws are enforced nor the level of mask compliance the population follows, cases all fall and rise around the same time. ~ Yinon Weiss
    In other words, provided your immune function is normal, the virus is as vulnerable as any other virus and you’re not destined to die just because you develop symptoms. So, the reason we’re in the situation we’re now in, Rasmussen says, is not because SARS-CoV-2 is somehow different or more lethal than anything that has come before. We’re in this situation due to political failures.

    Mask Mandates Have Had No Impact on Infection Trends
    Other data analyses that add support to the Danish study’s results include Yinon Weiss’ work presented in his article12 “These 12 Graphs Show Mask Mandates Do Nothing to Stop COVID.” In it, he shows that states’ mask rules appear to have had nothing to do with infection rates, which is what you’d expect if masks don’t work.

    Weiss points out that “No matter how strictly mask laws are enforced nor the level of mask compliance the population follows, cases all fall and rise around the same time.” To see all of the graphs, check out Weiss’ article13 or Twitter thread.14 Here are just a select few to bring home the point:











    Masks Delay Inevitable Acceptance of COVID-19 Reality
    What everyone needs to come to terms with is that we have a new respiratory virus in town — one that may stay with us indefinitely. The question then becomes, just how long do we lock ourselves in our homes and shun all social relationships?

    How long do we neglect our children’s education and social development by keeping schools closed? How long do we leave our elderly family members to languish in isolation? A better part of the global population has essentially stopped living altogether, and for what? For fear of an illness that 99.7% of people recover from15 — an illness that is as likely to kill you as the seasonal influenza if you’re under 60.16

    Data clearly show that COVID-19 has not resulted in excess mortality, meaning the same number of people who die in any given year, on average, have died in this year of the pandemic.17,18 Several studies19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26 also suggest immunity against SARS-CoV-2 infection is far more widespread than anyone imagined.

    In an October 28, 2020, Wall Street Journal opinion piece,27 Joseph Ladapo, an associate professor at UCLA’s David Geffen School of Medicine, points out that we really must accept reality and move on with life, unpredictable as it may be. He writes:

    “By paying outsize and scientifically unjustified attention to masking, mask mandates have the unintended consequence of delaying public acceptance of the unavoidable truth.

    In countries with active community transmission and no herd immunity, nothing short of inhumane lockdowns can stop the spread of COVID-19, so the most sensible and sustainable path forward is to learn to live with the virus.

    Shifting focus away from mask mandates and toward the reality of respiratory viral spread will free up time and resources to protect the most vulnerable Americans ...

    Until the reality of viral spread in the U.S. … is accepted, political leaders will continue to feel justified in keeping schools and businesses closed, robbing young people of the opportunity to invest in their futures, and restricting activities that make life worthwhile.”

    There’s Nothing to Fear but Fear Itself
    Hopefully, if you’ve been reading this newsletter, you’re no longer incapacitated with fear and are capable of making more level-headed decisions based on the data at hand rather than the fear porn published in the daily papers. For the latest news and top tips for combating COVID-19, check out my Coronavirus Resource Page.

    Everything really points to this pandemic being overblown and prolonged for purposes that have nothing to do with saving lives and everything to do with “resetting” the global financial and power structures — none of which will benefit us.

    The lockdowns are essentially just conditioning you to accept a radically new way of life — one in which we have limited ability to travel or work, one in which we’re conditioned to being partially or wholly dependent on a government handout, one in which we must submit to being tracked and surveilled with little or no right to privacy, one in which the government dictates how you can spend your time, where you can go, who you can spend time with and for how long.

    Eventually, once the global economies are in irreparable shambles, the central banks will roll out a debt erasure program to solve all our problems. The price will be your humanity, your freedom. Will you pay it? Or will you resist the whole deviled scheme while you still can?"

    + Sources and References
    1, 3 Annals of Internal Medicine November 18, 2020 DOI: 10.7326/M20-6817
    2 Spectator November 19, 2020
    4 Annals of Internal Medicine November 18, 2020 DOI: 10.7326/M20-6817, Discussion
    5 Philly Voice November 17, 2020
    6 Annals of Internal Medicine 2020 May 8 : M20-2004
    7 New York Post June 2, 2020
    8 NPR November 3, 2020
    9 Daily Mail November 23, 2020
    10, 11 The Guardian November 15, 2020
    12, 13 The Federalist October 29, 2020
    14 Twitter Yinon Weiss October 27, 2020
    15, 16 Annals of Internal Medicine September 2, 2020 DOI: 10.7326/M20-5352
    17 YouTube, SARS-CoV-2 and the rise of medical technocracy, Lee Merritt, MD, aprox 8 minutes in (Lie No. 1: Death Risk)
    18 Technical Report June 2020 DOI: 10.13140/RG.2.24350.77125
    19 Cell June 25, 2020; 181(7): 1489-1501.E15
    20 Wall Street Journal June 12, 2020 (Archived)
    21 Nature Immunology September 30, 2020 DOI: 10.1038/s41590-020-00808-x
    22 The Lancet Microbe September 4, 2020 DOI: 10.1016/S2666-5247(20)30114-2
    23 UPI September 4, 2020
    24 Nature July 15, 2020; 584: 457-462
    25 Daily Mail June 12, 2020
    26 Science Times June 12, 2020
    27 WSJ Opinion October 28, 2020 (Archived)
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    when they get me to wear a mask they see me like this



    When I wear a mask I see myself like this



    we are currently in a war, like the protesters in Hong Kong we may come to appreciate the anonymity of the mask.

    At this time they will probably agree with the science you are presenting.

    Long game!
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    HELP JOSHUA: Mall security TACKLES Canadian Forces member over minor COVID violation
    By David Menzies | December 17, 2020






    Talk about a surreal shopping spree, thanks to yet more Wuhan virus insanity — and some overzealous security guards.

    Earlier this month, Pickering, Ont. resident Josh Walker and his pregnant girlfriend, Samantha-Lynn Johnson, visited Upper Canada Mall in Newmarket to do a little shopping. The last thing Joshua expected to happen was for a half-dozen security guards to pile on him and then, later, to get criminally charged by the police.

    The madness began when Joshua, who is a member of the Canadian Armed Forces’ Queen’s Own Rifles regiment, went to the mall’s food court for a snack. Joshua soon discovered that while the mall’s food court was open for business, patrons were not permitted to sit down to consume their meals. And this is when the trouble began.

    Joshua says even though he wasn’t the only one eating his food in the food court, a mall security guard soon focused his attention on him. Both Joshua and Samantha-Lynn believe that Joshua may have been racially profiled, given that he is black.

    Joshua says he complied with security’s request to pack up his food and leave the mall under escort of the security guards. Because Samantha-Lynn is 18 weeks pregnant, Joshua asked to leave the mall at the exit that was closest to the couple’s car — a request that was allowed. It was during the couple’s frog-march out of the mall that things veered off the rails – but thankfully, it was all recorded on a cellphone camera.

    Here’s what unfolded: Joshua says a guard allegedly told them that if they didn’t leave, they would be charged with trespassing. This statement struck the couple as bizarre, given that they were already leaving the mall and heading toward an exit.

    Joshua then made a statement on camera that seems to have triggered the guards. Said a giggling Joshua: “You have got the three f---ing stooges here. There’s Larry, Curly, and f---ing Moe.”

    At this point, Joshua says he was pushed and shoved, and the video shows Joshua telling the guards, “Don’t put your hands on me, bro.”

    That’s when one security guard states: “You are under arrest for trespassing!”

    Joshua was then thrown to the floor. At one point there were six guards restraining Joshua, who was later taken to a York Region hospital for minor injuries.

    But in the department of insult to injury, the following day, York Regional Police charged Joshua with intent to resist arrest under the Criminal Code and another charge of violating the Trespass to Property Act.

    How can this be, given that the camera tells a completely different story?

    As far as we can tell, Joshua was NOT in breach of the Trespass to Property Act. For starters, he was actively complying with the order to leave the mall premises. Joshua and Samantha-Lynn never broke the law; on the contrary, they were cooperating with the guards’ demand that they must leave. In that regard, the attempted citizen’s arrest on him was unjustified, unreasonable and illegal.

    When Joshua likened the guards to the Three Stooges, somehow this justified physically stomping on a man? We think not. (Rebel News reached out to Upper Canada Mall for comment, but our request went unacknowledged.)

    As far as we’re concerned, this was an egregious attack on an innocent man. We think Joshua deserves justice, so we are picking up his case on two fronts:

    We plan to defend Joshua against the criminal charges;

    Furthermore, we are going to launch a civil lawsuit against the security guards, the mall and anyone else involved.

    Can you kindly help us go to bat for Joshua? Please visit HelpJoshua.com and, if possible, make a donation so that we can raise the necessary legal fees as we attempt to remedy a grotesque injustice.

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    This is pure fear conditioning for the sheep here in Ireland.

    I am constantly dumbfounded by the amount of people wearing masks EVERYWHERE...on their own driving in cars, walking along a basically empty footpath, the surprising thing though is the zealous compliance by people in the 15-25 age group, I suppose these poor young souls have grown up with a more severe level of conditioning to blindly accept authority than any other generation.

    Quote Two months in jail for man wearing mask on head ‘like a hat’

    Bus passenger refused to put on face covering correctly, citing ‘health reasons’ to garda

    A Bus Éireann passenger who wore a mask on his head “like a hat” and refused to wear it properly for “health reasons” was sentenced to two months in prison by a district court judge on Thursday.

    After hearing the evidence at Castlebar court in a case against Andrew Heasman (41), Carrowmore, Knock, Co Mayo, Judge Fiona Lydon said she was satisfied that all of the ingredients required to secure a conviction had been satisfied by the State.

    The judge sentenced the defendant to the prison term for an offence of failing to wear a face mask on public transport at Main Street, Ballyhaunis, on July 14th last.

    She took a charge of a breach of public order on the same date into account.

    The defendant was accompanied in court – as a McKenzie friend – by the columnist, author and civil rights activist John Waters.
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    ⚠️ To me, wearing a mask is being complicit in a HUGE FEAR MONGER DECEPTION to virtue signal and help the LIES to continue endlessly ... To help the RIGGED Technocratic Computer Model Scare Tactics connected to a big push for eventually mandatory toxic ☠️ vaccines using mass psychological warfare ... In my view, the mask is a symbol that ultimately end up being worse than wearing a swastika in the 1930s.

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    Things are getting out of hand in Canada. A woman called police and based on her tweet, there were 15 people in the park. The law is based on no more than 10 people involved in outdoor activities if they are from different households. So are the few people watching included in this count? How about a person walking their dog in the park at the same time?

    The police said that there was 40, but in the pic and the video, no way can you estimate 40 people.

    People are really very paranoid. I went to a mall yesterday to shop and I was stopped and given a short speech about how I was to conduct myself while in the store. The clerk even told me that there were "undercover health agents" so I best keep my mask over my nose. Really? Undercover health agents?

    Even though in the legal description, you are exempt from wearing a mask if you have a medical condition that does not allow you to wear one the businesses are not complying with that. Most businesses will not allow you into the store without a mask regardless.

    Common sense is completely gone. I can not go to another store because I can not handle the way people are acting. Clerks are practically escorting you around the store. Each time there is a debit transaction they are spraying and wiping sanitizers.

    This article and video shows how ridiculous things are. 2 female police officers (sorry if I offend anyone by saying female, but I believe they are) are performing their job very poorly while another male officer just stands there and watches. I can easily draw conclusions why this scenario plays out the way it does, but I will let people see for themselves.

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    • GoFundMe for our friends: "Arrested for Shopping Without a Mask"

    Meet Paula Gloria and Joe Barton, longtime residents of Woodstock, NY.

    In November, they were arrested at a local health food store for shopping without a mask, despite both having medical disabilities and being exempt as per Governor Cuomo's rules. We want all charges against them dropped.

    With the case still in the courts, it is with great sadness that Paula passed away from natural causes earlier this month.

    The funds raised in their GoFundMe will cover legal costs as well as to help Joe get back on his feet from the devastating loss of Paula, his beloved wife of many years.

    It will also help to bring media attention to the issue of how governments are robbing us all of our Freedoms and Constitutional and Bill of Rights.

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    I will admit I wear a mask when I go to town, which is not often but I do not wish to have a confrontation. Many places you cannot go in without one. I do not go to town often! Out here in the country when I occasionally run into another person they are not usually wearing a mask.
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    Quote Posted by Karen (Geophyz) (here)
    I will admit I wear a mask when I go to town, which is not often but I do not wish to have a confrontation. Many places you cannot go in without one. I do not go to town often! Out here in the country when I occasionally run into another person they are not usually wearing a mask.
    This is the problem.
    Can you imagine if 25, 40, 50% of the people who are wearing masks are doing so because they "do not wish to have a confrontation"?

    My policy, which works very well, has always been to not wear a mask anywhere in public.
    Most stores either ignore me or if I'm approached I say I have a medical condition and am waved in.
    The few stores that insist I wear a mask lose my business.

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    I think we all need to be brave.

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    Quote Posted by DaveToo (here)
    Quote Posted by Karen (Geophyz) (here)
    I will admit I wear a mask when I go to town, which is not often but I do not wish to have a confrontation. Many places you cannot go in without one. I do not go to town often! Out here in the country when I occasionally run into another person they are not usually wearing a mask.
    This is the problem.
    Can you imagine if 25, 40, 50% of the people who are wearing masks are doing so because they "do not wish to have a confrontation"?

    My policy, which works very well, has always been to not wear a mask anywhere in public.
    Most stores either ignore me or if I'm approached I say I have a medical condition and am waved in.
    The few stores that insist I wear a mask lose my business.
    Yes, and I agree with you. The problem is that more stores are out right refusing people if they say they have a medical issue. This leaves less and less stores to shop from and then you are left ordering online, which is what they want more people to do it seems.

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    Quote Posted by Deborah (ahamkara) (here)
    I think we all need to be brave.
    I agree.
    Because if we aren't brave we will pay dearly by losing
    our freedoms, one by one.

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    In South Africa the latest "fear mongering" and Lockdown level three Draconian rule about masks:

    https://www.enca.com/news/theres-eno...ional-services

    JOHANNESBURG - Correctional Services is warning people that it has more than enough room for anyone arrested for not wearing a mask in public.

    Under lockdown regulations, anyone caught without a mask in public will face a hefty fine or six months imprisonment or both.

    The "crooked" media as expected are full into it. This is a picture in the "Rapport", an Afrikaans weekly newspaper:
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    Stating that it is a 78 year old South African woman

    BUT it's actually the exact same Ghettyphoto :

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    And accordingly her Brittish name is "Joan Burgess" - she does not look happy at all
    Life is good, almost always !

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    Quote Posted by Dorjezigzag (here)
    when they get me to wear a mask they see me like this



    When I wear a mask I see myself like this



    we are currently in a war, like the protesters in Hong Kong we may come to appreciate the anonymity of the mask.

    At this time they will probably agree with the science you are presenting.

    Long game!
    That's great

    Yes, I do the very same psychologically when I wear one (think Lawrence of Arabia ). I purposefully minimise wherever I can any situations that require me too as well and never for very long - twice for 20 minutes a time on a short bus commute is as bad as it gets for me and that is still broken up with a good mile and half walk in between to work and back again to the bus in the evenings; three miles of exercise in all.

    Fortunately we also have outdoor markets still operating here, and a weekly delivery of organic vegetables that I'm signed up tor receiving so that further minimises dependence upon supermarkets for everything. Where possible I tend to shop only twice a month for supermarket related goods.
    “If a man does not keep pace with [fall into line with] his companions, perhaps it is because he hears a different drummer. Let him step to the music which he hears, however measured or far away.” - Thoreau

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    Yesterday Biden announced that he will enforce a 100 day mask mandate.
    "If the doors of perception were cleansed everything would appear to man as it is, Infinite. For man has closed himself up, till he sees all things thro' narrow chinks of his cavern.” William Blake

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    Where I live, in Michigan, we are already wearing masks in any store or other building we go into, so I don't know what else he could require. It may vary in other states.

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    Quote Posted by Karen (Geophyz) (here)
    Yesterday Biden announced that he will enforce a 100 day mask mandate.
    100 days would bring us into Spring, when respiratory illnesses traditionally let up anyway. Then he can claim his mandate saved us all, and he will be the hero!
    "We're all bozos on this bus"

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    Of course he also said he would mobilize the military to go out and give the jab to hard to reach places and people who do not want it.
    "If the doors of perception were cleansed everything would appear to man as it is, Infinite. For man has closed himself up, till he sees all things thro' narrow chinks of his cavern.” William Blake

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