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    • Stanford Study Results: Facemasks are Ineffective to Block Transmission of COVID-19 and Actually Can Cause Health Deterioration and Premature Death
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    I've developed a new policy for stores that require masks. The policy is MAKE THEM ASK! Don't just go into the store with a mask on. Put it in your pocket and make them ask you to. That way people will gradually stop wearing the stupid things.

    No masks or vaccinated allowed in store:

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/202...door-business/
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    I've developed a new policy for stores that require masks. The policy is MAKE THEM ASK! Don't just go into the store with a mask on. Put it in your pocket and make them ask you to. That way people will gradually stop wearing the stupid things.

    No masks or vaccinated allowed in store:

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/202...door-business/
    I've been taking it a step further since the plandemic started more than a year ago.
    I don't even carry a mask on me!

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    I have always wondered why those vaccinated and wearing masks are so concerned about those not wearing them. If they suggest that my wearing a mask is somehow protecting others, well their masks must not be very effective right? Not only that, why bother getting vaccinated at all?

    So all in all, to me it is nothing more than fear porn, and a great test to see how well the "Controllers" can affect control over the masses. I find it hilarious as none of the fabric masks protect against anything. Sure they may stop people from "talk spitting" on another, but truly, the minute people take them off and touch anything, they're contaminating everything anyway, so what is the point?

    If those getting vaccinated, and are wearing masks still, believe they're helping anyone, joke is on them. If the vaccines worked they would no longer need a dang mask... PERIOD. They would be immune. The idiocy of it all is laughable.

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    I have always wondered why those vaccinated and wearing masks are so concerned about those not wearing them. If they suggest that my wearing a mask is somehow protecting others, well their masks must not be very effective right? Not only that, why bother getting vaccinated at all?

    So all in all, to me it is nothing more than fear porn, and a great test to see how well the "Controllers" can affect control over the masses. I find it hilarious as none of the fabric masks protect against anything. Sure they may stop people from "talk spitting" on another, but truly, the minute people take them off and touch anything, they're contaminating everything anyway, so what is the point?

    If those getting vaccinated, and are wearing masks still, believe they're helping anyone, joke is on them. If the vaccines worked they would no longer need a dang mask... PERIOD. They would be immune. The idiocy of it all is laughable.
    I think a lot of the people not wearing masks nowadays ARE vaccinated. Some of them have that smug air of virtuousity.

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    I think a lot of the people not wearing masks nowadays ARE vaccinated. Some of them have that smug air of virtuousity.
    I have MS, and when people ask me if I am going to be vaccinated to "get my white blood count up to fend off CoVid", I tell them my white blood count is so high that it fights itself for fun!

    I explain that an extra boost to my immune system could be catastrophic.. That tends to get them to "Allow me" the luxury of NOT being vaccinated, in their opinions... The thing about this vaccine is that it isn't at all a vaccine.. But the terminology of what it truly is, has been adjusted to give the illusion that indeed it is a vaccine specifically designed to fend off CoVid.

    There is so much literature out there suggesting they still can't find the exact thing they're trying to fight off.

    The videos from China with people dropping death, blood coming from their faces, suggest a local bioweapon was used there, and I believe those videos were put out to push the fear porn even further. I know of people whom have died natural causes, but were marked as "CoVid" deaths publicly... (A family member as one, as he was once the sheriff of a very large town in my state)..

    Personally I am tired of those that want the vaccine, forcing their own beliefs on those that believe it is a mistake to ingest anything untested and unregulated. Especially when there is no recourse if it causes irreversible damage to those taking it. As it has for some folks, up to, and including an untimely death.

    A cloth mask may stop droplets from escaping the mouth, but the germs still linger. None of the face coverings people are wearing are rated for viral contamination, so to wear them is a joke. Those that I know that did get the virus, were wersing masks and were outside when they were exposed....

    In my town it is mandatory to wear masks, cloth ones, into businesses, I laugh.. The police will tell you to your face they cannot patrol this, and an only suggest people do it. It is a "Suggestion" not law...
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    I recently went into the store to buy a few disposable masks. I noticed the same description on the disposable masks I was looking at - all made in China - and there was also an additional sentence which said that one might notice copper and silver threads and words to the effect not to be concerned with this. Well, that did it for me - in my paranoid state, there were just a few too many red flags so will not be buying any more disposable masks and will only wear (if I have to) the fabric ones made made locally.

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    I would not worry about silver and copper threads in your face mask.

    Silver and copper both have antimicrobial properties.

    Silver oxide and silver nitrate are commonly used in treatment of infected wounds, long healing wounds, burns and sunburns.

    Nanosilver is common part of sterile pads and wound dressings used in ICU wards. They use very high quality products of course but most can be purchased from hospital pharmacies.

    I’ve searched and found one of the “good face masks” with nanosilver on the market:

    https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/statn...ct-of-Over-99-

    It’s almost 99% waterproof , it’s washable and durable.


    Wonder that simple red clay mask many aboriginal tribes used in the heat would do good job as well. Or what about walking to store covered in that black charcoal mask ?

    It’s the return to ancestors time ...



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    Stanford Study- China Virus 1000X Smaller Than Mask Holes

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    The China Virus is 1000 TIMES SMALLER than the holes in the face masks we are forced to wear.

    This is like throwing a ping-pong ball through a 7 x 7 ft. picture window.

    Now...I'll admit...I am not a biologist...

    ...BUT these scientists at Stanford University ARE actual biologists...

    ...AND their work is peer reviewed (67 scholars, doctors, scientists, and other studies to support the study's conclusions)...

    ...AND it was posted on the the National Center for Biological Information (NCBI) government website...

    ...AND these Stanford biologists flat out state: "SARS-CoV-2 can easily pass through any facemask".

    So WHY are we even wearing these things?

    Why is the government still telling us to--MAKING US--wear these things?

    It's not like they are not aware of this information.

    The MSM isn't talking much about this study, either.

    In fact, TWITTER actually suspended political strategist, Steve Cortes for quoting and linking to the Stanford study.


    twitter.com...

    FROM the Stanford Study:
    Efficacy of facemasks

    The physical properties of medical and non-medical facemasks suggest that facemasks are ineffective to block viral particles due to their difference in scales [16], [17], [25].

    According to the current knowledge, the virus SARS-CoV-2 has a diameter of 60 nm to 140 nm [nanometers (billionth of a meter)] [16], [17], while medical and non-medical facemasks’ thread diameter ranges from 55 µm to 440 µm [micrometers (one millionth of a meter), which is more than 1000 times larger [25].

    Due to the difference in sizes between SARS-CoV-2 diameter and facemasks thread diameter (the virus is 1000 times smaller), SARS-CoV-2 can easily pass through any facemask [25].
    www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov...
    (emphasis mine)
    Stanford study quietly published at NIH.gov proves face masks are absolutely worthless against Covid
    americanconservativemovement.com... id/

    AGAIN...the virus is 1000 TIMES SMALLER than the holes in the facemasks!

    AGAIN...Ping-Pong ball through the 7x7 ft. window!

    AGAIN..."Due to the difference in sizes between SARS-CoV-2 diameter and facemasks thread diameter (the virus is 1000 times smaller), SARS-CoV-2 can easily pass through any facemask"--Stanford Study

    WAKE UP!!!!---We're being conned!

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    IMHO

    The mask is of course to help spread the fear. What it also does is deter human to human contact - people wearing masks are reluctant to make eye contact with another.

    Divide us from each other as much as they can.

    I was out yesterday and there was a young women who actually ran away from me as I got out of my parked car in a parking lot without having a mask on. She was very scared. I could see the terror on her face - it was ridiculous, but a clear example of how much fear some people are feeling due to the programming.

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    This whole video by Dr John Lee, UK professor pathology and consultant histopathologist needs to be listened to my millions of people, every bit of it. n my opinion it's by far the best summary of the whole debacle and the reasons behind the decision taken.

    If you want to jump to the part where he demolishes the myth of mask wearing protecting both yourself and others, it's at approximately 22:00 where he talks about distancing / mask wearing.

    It's basically a failure of the imagination to understand how small a virus really is.

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    Quote Posted by Gwin Ru (here)
    Stanford Study- China Virus 1000X Smaller Than Mask Holes

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    posted on Apr, 17 2021 @ 05:58 PM
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    The China Virus is 1000 TIMES SMALLER than the holes in the face masks we are forced to wear.

    This is like throwing a ping-pong ball through a 7 x 7 ft. picture window.

    Now...I'll admit...I am not a biologist...

    ...BUT these scientists at Stanford University ARE actual biologists...

    ...AND their work is peer reviewed (67 scholars, doctors, scientists, and other studies to support the study's conclusions)...

    ...AND it was posted on the the National Center for Biological Information (NCBI) government website...

    ...AND these Stanford biologists flat out state: "SARS-CoV-2 can easily pass through any facemask".

    So WHY are we even wearing these things?

    Why is the government still telling us to--MAKING US--wear these things?

    It's not like they are not aware of this information.

    The MSM isn't talking much about this study, either.

    In fact, TWITTER actually suspended political strategist, Steve Cortes for quoting and linking to the Stanford study.


    twitter.com...

    FROM the Stanford Study:
    Efficacy of facemasks

    The physical properties of medical and non-medical facemasks suggest that facemasks are ineffective to block viral particles due to their difference in scales [16], [17], [25].

    According to the current knowledge, the virus SARS-CoV-2 has a diameter of 60 nm to 140 nm [nanometers (billionth of a meter)] [16], [17], while medical and non-medical facemasks’ thread diameter ranges from 55 µm to 440 µm [micrometers (one millionth of a meter), which is more than 1000 times larger [25].

    Due to the difference in sizes between SARS-CoV-2 diameter and facemasks thread diameter (the virus is 1000 times smaller), SARS-CoV-2 can easily pass through any facemask [25].
    www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov...
    (emphasis mine)
    Stanford study quietly published at NIH.gov proves face masks are absolutely worthless against Covid
    americanconservativemovement.com... id/

    AGAIN...the virus is 1000 TIMES SMALLER than the holes in the facemasks!

    AGAIN...Ping-Pong ball through the 7x7 ft. window!

    AGAIN..."Due to the difference in sizes between SARS-CoV-2 diameter and facemasks thread diameter (the virus is 1000 times smaller), SARS-CoV-2 can easily pass through any facemask"--Stanford Study

    WAKE UP!!!!---We're being conned!
    Only one problem there, the Stanford Study has been retracted.

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    Some peer-reviewed academic citations from world-class scientists on the lack of efficacy of mask wearing in preventing the spread of infections.

    There is I think a Danish study considered to be the de facto study that demolishes claims that masks are even remotely effective in infection control and explain how much of a liability they are when used inappropriately, I'll see if I can dig it out.

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    Quote Conversely, surgical and hand-made masks, and face shields, generate significant leakage jets that have the potential to disperse virus-laden fluid particles by more than several metres. The different nature of the masks and shields makes the direction of these jets difficult to be predicted, but the directionality of these jets should be a main design consideration for these covers. They showed an intense backward jet for heavy breathing and coughing conditions. It is important to be aware of this jet, to avoid a false sense of security that may arise when standing to the side of, or behind, a person wearing a surgical, or handmade mask, or shield.
    University of Edinburgh
    https://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/2005/2005.10720.pdf

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    Quote None of the studies established a conclusive relationship between mask/respirator use and protection against influenza infection
    Journal of Influenza and Other Respiratory Viruses
    PMID: 22188875

    3.
    Quote There is little evidence to support the effectiveness of face masks to reduce the risk of infection
    Journal of Epidemiology & Infection
    PMID: 20092668

    4.
    Quote Most healthcare workers develop de novo PPE (such as N95 face mask) associated headaches or associated exacerbation of their pre-existing headache disorders
    Journal Headache
    PMID: 32232837

    5.
    Quote We know that wearing a mask outside of health care facilities offers little, if any, protection from infection.
    New England Journal of Medicine
    PMID: 32237672

    6.
    Quote Preliminary Report on Surgical Mask Induced Deoxygenation During Major Surgery: Our study revealed a decrease in the oxygen saturation of arterial pulsations (SpO2)
    Journal Neurocirugia
    PMID: 18500410

    7.
    Quote Face mask use in health care workers has not been demonstrated to provide benefit in terms of cold symptoms or getting colds
    American Journal of Infection Control
    PMID: 19216002
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    This shouldn't even be a discussion anymore.

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    This shouldn't even be a discussion anymore.

    I wonder how many Avalonians thought face masks are really "good" against viruses that are 1000 times smaller than the holes in the masks ... even when they admit they have NO medical use! (reading the package).
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