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    Default Mapping the Flak . . . hotspots

    "When we're taking flak, we must be over a target".





    This thread is to identify flak hotspots in the fields of research and public information sharing that are generally covered here at Avalon.

    While there is generally a lot of censorship, I think we all know that there are some very specific hot spots.

    What can we learn from looking at a hot spot map?


    I'll kick things off with Vaccine criticism. That's been a no-brainer for several years.
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    Default Re: Mapping the Flak . . . hotspots

    See this post and this one...

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    Quote Posted by Gwin Ru (here)
    See this post and this one...

    Your second link reminds me of that Jesse Ventura "Conspiracy Theory" episode that was wiped from everyone's cable/satelite TV recording hard drives, quite a few years back. I think it was the episode about fema camps and stored coffins. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.


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    From the hordes of intelligent people on social media you get agressive nastiness if you contradict the main stream media about the pandemic. They get dissonant pretty quickly.

    The platform itself deploys fact checkers to shut down info, I am seeing a preponderance of this in relation to any Doctors who contradict the script in terms of vaccines or the pandemic, the fact checker narratives are extremely deceptive and utilise changed wording and semantic tricks to take down truth.

    Then theres the other one, where you are trying to share stuff and out of nowhere your internet signal gets much stronger but you cannot post. I have encountered this in relation to elite pedophilia, and the establishments protection of it.



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    Default Re: Mapping the Flak . . . hotspots

    For me, the most alarming (and obvious!) thing is the co-ordinated and orchestrated mainstream reaction to apparently simple and seemingly innocuous things like Trump trying his best to talk about hydroxychloroquine (HCQ).

    Many of the main US media channels called it "peddling snake oil" — and so on. It was so extreme that it became a very clear red flag indicator.

    Not all worldwide news media are doing this, of course, because the CIA (in the present-day version of Operation Mockingbird, the on-record infiltration of the US media by the CIA) can't control the media in every country.

    But something's controlling the politicians. The language, buzz words, policies and PR adopted by the authorities in almost every first world country are near-identical. It seems pretty clear that all this is being mandated by some invisible, unnamed, senior transnational control group. I can't recall any other time when this has become so clear.

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    As you and Kerry revealed so clearly in the early days of Camelot, there are no borders. The forces/powers/entities wielding power operate on a global scale, controlling resources and shaping a narrative to achieve long term objectives. They are obviously there and showing the strength of their hand.

    There is clearly a global economic restructuring taking place- the very wealthy in America have seen their fortunes increase (Waltons, Bezos, Gates). There is a brutal elimination of entire small business sectors and a shifting of very many in society to government support. There is a strong attempt to mandate vaccines, if not by law, by private business (you must be vaccinated to fly, attend a sporting event or music concert, etc.). There is a near complete control and censorship of media and a concurrent programming effect on most citizens - often split along political lines. There is a full on assault on normal human interactions via the mandated masking and social distancing of citizenry. But most ominous, in my opinion, is the implementation of a new level of technology via AI systems linked to surveillence, tracking, and bio digital programming. The fact that 5 G is such a censored topic, leads me to believe that this is the most important part of what we are seeing.

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    Quote Posted by ahamkara (here)


    . . . The fact that 5 G is such a censored topic, leads me to believe that this is the most important part of what we are seeing.


    I've not noticed 5G being a censored topic, as such, but I've noticed that making any connection between 5G and Covid-19 is savagely censored.


    I'm wondering if the connection we should have a look at, when more is known after ( hopefully ) the US military do proper tests on the Gates vaccine, is a possible connection between 5G and the vaccine.
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    Yes, Norman, you are correct. I should have been more specific. It is the link between 5G and the possible severity of the symptoms that is censored, not just 5G itself (which is often portrayed as a wonderful improvement)

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    Quote Posted by ahamkara (here)
    Yes, Norman, you are correct. I should have been more specific. It is the link between 5G and the possible severity of the symptoms that is censored, not just 5G itself (which is often portrayed as a wonderful improvement)

    IF the big deal is the Vaccine/5G rather than the covid/5g connection, it may not even be about the story so far about trying to explain patchy severity. It may be about what they can get up to later when the whole population has been bum rushed into having that vaccine put inside their bodies.
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    But anyway, let's broaden out the range of stuff that's causing flak. So far, other than Pedo fear at the top, we've really only covered viruses and vaccines.
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    I'm new to the forum, though I've been trying to read thoroughly to have an idea of what the community is like. Thanks for this place, and thanks for having me!

    I am seriously convinced bots are generating most of the content on the internet.

    I deleted my reddit account last year, because I became very convinced that most of the "people" writing comments were actually bots. I did a few tests, and decided I didn't want to be part of it. But I've kept going back for news, because there are exactly zero people I trust in the media to explain what is happening in the world. Recently, I came across a few obscure posts where other folks were posting results of their own tests, showing that most of the "people" writing on reddit have to be bots. They're too fast to be human.

    When I say most, we're talking north of 60% at least. This has to be true, if not worse, on Twitter as well. Facebook was already full of bots when I quit them back 6 years ago.

    I can only speculate as to the why. One thought: they are trying to get us to accede to "biometric internet identity" in a year or two or ten to protect ourselves from the nefarious bots running rampant everywhere.

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    But something's controlling the politicians. The language, buzz words, policies and PR adopted by the authorities in almost every first world country are near-identical. It seems pretty clear that all this is being mandated by some invisible, unnamed, senior transnational control group. I can't recall any other time when this has become so clear.
    I have wondered about this as well. This could run deep. As in, deepfake. They ran that tech out in the open over the past year, and now all of a sudden, all the politicians sound like robots.

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    So, I reread my post, and I think I was a bit nervous making my first post, and I didn't really fill out what I was saying.

    My concern about bot-generated content is that it sounds convincingly real, like it was written by a human. The shilling has graduated from US military bases (known centers of major Reddit activity) to machines. Machines that other humans will insist are human. Their writing reads legitimate. It shouldn't be a surprise - they can deepfake video; of course they can deepfake conversation.

    Once they stop interacting at machine-speed, and intentionally slow down to human speed, it will be close to impossible to tell. I'm suspicious of this, because considering how sophisticated these bots are, it should be simple to program in a delay. Why don't they? Right now, they can read read articles and generate responses, but they can't quite manage to navigate reading absorbing and properly responding to a slew of comments. None of this feels like an insurmountable programming problem. They're 99.9% of the way there. It feels like they're flaunting it, letting those of us who care know what they're doing.

    I am also concerned that much of the internet news content we consume is being created by machines. I have no way to prove it, just general suspicions. Everything reads the same. The only difference is which team the "author" supports. Some of the sites I followed where I knew there were real humans have disappeared.

    I know I'm not the only person who has wondered if the politicians appearing on the screen are actually human beings. How are we to know? Everyone is locked down. It isn't hard at all to deepfake a fuzzy zoom call. They did that to Assange years ago.

    Whatever the plan is with all this stuff, they are getting more brazen and out in the open. Like they don't care that we know.

    I have been disconnecting more and more from the tubes over the past few years. This place feels like a breath of fresh air.

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    . . . My concern about bot-generated content is that it sounds convincingly real, like it was written by a human . . . . .

    Have you found any cases of unusually hard censorship of discussion about this ?
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    It's all the fruits of the ongoing Nazis propaganda and mind control research, ongoing from the second world war, base of operation moved to the good old US of A.

    Even the control forces, police forces follow the dress code
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    . . . My concern about bot-generated content is that it sounds convincingly real, like it was written by a human . . . . .

    Have you found any cases of unusually hard censorship of discussion about this ?
    The bots are the censorship. On reddit, for instance, on any of the main subs, the bots control the conversation. Reddit allows upvoting and downvoting of comments, and the bots make comments, and push their comments to the top. Then they start long discussion threads that do not talk about the actual topic of the thread - say unrest in the Middle East.

    Any comments that go against the dominant narrative are downvoted and disappeared. There might be some actual discussion of the topic if you look for it, but it takes work.

    Bring up the bots, you get downvoted out of the discussion.

    I noticed all this starting to happen 2-3 years ago. I only participated on the /collapse subreddit, and started noticing a few "people" who couldn't possibly be real. Every time I pointed it out, I was downvoted to oblivion. I messaged the mods, nothing. Then I started to notice that each mod only commented about one or two specific topics. One mod only commented if GMOs came up, and he was always stridently pro-GMO. Another mod only commented on oil and gas stuff, always talking about how there's more than we need and the doomers are wrong. One mod only commented on weather articles, saying the weather stuff wasn't as bad as what the collapse commentariat was saying, etc, etc.

    It was really bizarre gaslighting.

    I didn't want to quit. Part of me feels like quitting is what they want from this - when the actual humans stop writing the only voices left are the robots.

    Sorry to go on about this, it's really been bugging me for a few years now.

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    I know "climate change" needs a mention in this thread but it's a complex issue that always seems to wriggle out of being argued with broad strokes.


    Plenty of flak around this subject.
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    But something's controlling the politicians. The language, buzz words, policies and PR adopted by the authorities in almost every first world country are near-identical. It seems pretty clear that all this is being mandated by some invisible, unnamed, senior transnational control group. I can't recall any other time when this has become so clear.


    In your instinctive sense, do you feel this 'command' is over and above the usual long term operating control system ?
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    But something's controlling the politicians. The language, buzz words, policies and PR adopted by the authorities in almost every first world country are near-identical. It seems pretty clear that all this is being mandated by some invisible, unnamed, senior transnational control group. I can't recall any other time when this has become so clear.


    In your instinctive sense, do you feel this 'command' is over and above the usual long term operating control system ?
    Yes Norman its a bit like a race horse pacing it self, then full speed ahead to the finishing post. (2030) That date seems to come up in different circles. Edgar Cayce said beginning of the Golden Age.
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    . . . My concern about bot-generated content is that it sounds convincingly real, like it was written by a human . . . . .

    Have you found any cases of unusually hard censorship of discussion about this ?
    The bots are the censorship. On reddit, for instance, on any of the main subs, the bots control the conversation. Reddit allows upvoting and downvoting of comments, and the bots make comments, and push their comments to the top. Then they start long discussion threads that do not talk about the actual topic of the thread - say unrest in the Middle East.

    Any comments that go against the dominant narrative are downvoted and disappeared. There might be some actual discussion of the topic if you look for it, but it takes work.

    Bring up the bots, you get downvoted out of the discussion.

    I noticed all this starting to happen 2-3 years ago. I only participated on the /collapse subreddit, and started noticing a few "people" who couldn't possibly be real. Every time I pointed it out, I was downvoted to oblivion. I messaged the mods, nothing. Then I started to notice that each mod only commented about one or two specific topics. One mod only commented if GMOs came up, and he was always stridently pro-GMO. Another mod only commented on oil and gas stuff, always talking about how there's more than we need and the doomers are wrong. One mod only commented on weather articles, saying the weather stuff wasn't as bad as what the collapse commentariat was saying, etc, etc.

    It was really bizarre gaslighting.

    I didn't want to quit. Part of me feels like quitting is what they want from this - when the actual humans stop writing the only voices left are the robots.

    Sorry to go on about this, it's really been bugging me for a few years now.
    I do not want to derail the thread but I would like to raise the question if there is some way you can spot the bots? Something that is like the Voight Kampff test?https://bladerunner.fandom.com/wiki/Voight-Kampff_test

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    I have silenced pro pharma trolls by mentioning science and nobel prizes. I suspect they are bots.
    we have subcontracted the business of healing people to Companies who profit from sickness.

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