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    HAHA, I see the thanks have all dried up. hahahaha

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    Nope. It's just that this thread started of reporting on some very important development on the US political chessboard and it somehow ended up being about J.Assange.
    Perhaps if you take it to the appropriate thread you might have better luck. With a quick search I could find 96 threads about assange.
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    As long as it’s going to be “run by humans”, internet will be imperfect. Take an example of going to a computerised library, trying to find a book in the catalogue.
    Suppose there is human librarian behind the computer and suppose you make a mistake or spell the name wrong or have a bad day or the librarian does, the book may never be found.
    ( no offence to librarians 🙏 it’s but an example, they’re generally the calmest and most helpful people around).

    Computer intelligence can be advanced enough to the point of being able to “read you”, no matter where do you come from, what language or dialect do you communicate in, the way you place words in the sentence or what kind of metaphors do you use. It won’t bully you, criticise you or refute your request unless: suppose it figures out your intentions are purely malicious and destructive.

    Secondly it is there to “help you” in the same way any computerised library service does.

    It can help you to specify your question or correct the terminology, navigate you to the right information, the best possible calculable solution( that is very important feature because very few humans if anyone has full access to all global information at once but the computer does) or navigate you to the human group and likeminded individuals you are probably looking for.

    It won’t engage you in “human opinion” and bully you for your input. As individual human beings, some try to “play God” but we actually don’t have such a “global capacity”.
    Human run internet is dangerous for allowing emotional humans with prejudice trying to censor other emotional humans with prejudice, often by taking them from the correct pathway of what they’re looking for to some kind of “chat room” where they can get “talked to”.


    Humans running and censoring “global internet” by army of computer engineers really is not how internet should look like.


    It should also grant the same rights and privileges to all, no matter who is accessing, except for sensitive information but then again, the AI can possibly read our true intents better than a human does in most casual circumstances.


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    Today’s internet engages and sucks in pathological human thinking the same way as the Matrix in the movie did.
    You may have good luck and happen upon good friends out there, for sure but many people come to “ask about aubergines” and end up seduced to chat room full of political discussion, for example, leaving them knackered at the end of the day and accused of opinion at the expense of some mean bully on the other side.

    Sounds exaggerated here on the PA forum of course but consider the “rest of the internet” is much bigger than the PA forum.
    How many kids and people of all ages who are new to it end up in traps and loops of social media, pestered by advertisements of trade giants or worse, the most innocent ones trapped by one of the psychopaths and misused.


    Somehow, I do agree with Mr Trump that the internet needs to be “purified” .

    Free speech should not be “pathological human behaviour” and a madhouse.
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    Social Media Companies PANICKING Over Trump Executive Order And Its Hilarious:


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    Leaked . . . ?
    I saw this "leaked" document release almost simultaneously across many social media platforms earlier today?

    Maybe it went super-viral, very fast.

    I think this is a topic many people care about, and most have felt affected by.

    Stefan Molyneux Title of The Video was made couple hours BEFORE it was "official" ... I think he changed the title but NOT the Thumbnail Preview Picture.
    the draft was released....

    it was not leaked.
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    Wow, did I read this right, or....

    Too busy today to read this today, I need to focus on placing a little concrete.



    https://crazzfiles.com/anatomy-of-pr...-action-items/

    Quote Anatomy of President Trump’s executive order to end political bias by the tech giants and challenge Sec. 230 (plus 10 urgent action items)
    The Crazz FilesMay 29, 2020

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    I wasn’t too sure where to post this item. The mods may decide on this topic. Although it was suggested to have a new thread on Assange which may be the case. However, as this part of the topic is still current it may address what Norman has stated.

    Norman, although you have made some interesting statements there appears to be supporting evidence. Back in 2017 there were two episodes from Richplanet into investigations of Assange and Wikileaks.

    Wikileaks : Made by the N.S.A.

    Richard Hall and Andrew Johnson drill down in their investigations of who is really Assange and Wikileaks. They show documented evidence and much more other material linked to a network that supports there claims.

    This episode of 15-07-2017 is about 2 hours spit into 4 parts

    https://www.richplanet.net/richp_gue...art=1&person=1

    In conspiracy circles Wikileaks generates much excitement. But not at Richplanet. Whenever you hear the words "Assange" or "Wikileaks" in relation to some new "leak", there are the questions you ought to be asking yourself : What is the ulterior motive for this leak and am I being taken for a ride here? In today's programme, for the first time anywhere I reveal just how much of a handled entity Julian Assange is. Assange is not an independent activist, but is chauffeured around by establishment handlers. He is not a wanted criminal, he is not being given asylum, he is not a whistleblower, he is not an advocate of freedom of information. He is an intelligence created tool being used to front one of the biggest psy-ops currently in operation on this planet. Wikileaks is funded and supported by globalists who are using it for a number of agendas.

    The Protocols of Zion

    This episode of 21-10-2017 is an update from the first part.

    https://www.richplanet.net/richp_gue...art=1&person=1

    In the first part we further discuss Wikileaks and Julian Assange. After receiving considerable feedback from show no. 240, we decided to do an update. It seems fairly unanimous to those with a critically thinking brain that Julian Assange is a fraud. All the clues are there that he is a puppet of U.S. intelligence masquerading as a champion of truth, and subtly propped up by mainstream media with their fake cynicism. I am sure there will be more evidence brought to light in future to make Julian Assange a bigger laughing stock than he already is.

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    Every vindication (and there are plenty) is another nail in the coffin called: "fact checkers" ... Time for: tinyurl.com/HypocrisyCheckers
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    Even Mark Zuckerberg Thinks Jack Dorsey "Fact Checking" Trumps Twitter is Nuts:

    Twitter Grandstands on Trump Tweet, Falsely Claims He is Glorifying Violence:
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    Wyden speaks to importance of CDA 230 at Senate Commerce hearing:

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    Inside Trump's Executive Order Against Big Tech Censorship:


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    The censorship is not just aimed at ''right wing'' people / issues....extends basically to anyone against status quo, MSM narrative whatever it is..including anti empire, anti war folks. See what Google did to Tulsi Gabbard during /after her debates saw interest in her jump up.

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    Generally, I am against censorship and if google was responsible for messing with Tulsi Gabbord, for example, that is so wrong. But twitter simply suggesting fact checking and limiting what might incite violence, I think is okay.

    Facebook allowing it's echo chambers to go unchecked was said to be responsible for the Rohingya crisis in Myanmar a few years back. And before social media was social media, radio broadcasts encouraging Hutus to take up arms against the Tutsis in Rwanda was considered the major triggering event that touched off a genocide. Ditto newspapers, radio broadcasts in Germany ramping up to war that scapegoated Jews and created atrocity propaganda.

    It's very important to encourage free speech through whatever means while limiting its potential for causing mob violence, particularly against vulnerable minorities.

    Freedom and free speech are concepts fraught with paradoxes and ambiguity, contained within constantly shifting sets of social and civil dynamics.

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    Generally, I am against censorship and if google was responsible for messing with Tulsi Gabbord, for example, that is so wrong. But twitter simply suggesting fact checking and limiting what might incite violence, I think is okay.

    Facebook allowing it's echo chambers to go unchecked was said to be responsible for the Rohingya crisis in Myanmar a few years back. And before social media was social media, radio broadcasts encouraging Hutus to take up arms against the Tutsis in Rwanda was considered the major triggering event that touched off a genocide. Ditto newspapers, radio broadcasts in Germany ramping up to war that scapegoated Jews and created atrocity propaganda.

    It's very important to encourage free speech through whatever means while limiting its potential for causing mob violence, particularly against vulnerable minorities.

    Freedom and free speech are concepts fraught with paradoxes and ambiguity, contained within constantly shifting sets of social and civil dynamics.


    Right on, but how is peaceful speech differentiated from
    -inciting violence?
    -inciting hate crimes?
    -inciting psychosis?

    Only where psychology has been highjacked by drug pushers,
    free speech looks like evidence of covid infections.
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