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    Default Re: The death of George Floyd in police hands, Minneapolis, 25 May 2020

    Psychological operations

    Psychological operations (PSYOP) are operations to convey selected information and indicators to audiences to influence their emotions, motives, and objective reasoning, and ultimately the behavior of governments, organizations, groups, and individuals.

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    US Democrats introduce sweeping legislation to reform police

    US Democrats in Congress have proposed sweeping legislation to reform American police, following weeks of protests against police brutality and racism.

    The bill would make it easier to prosecute police for misconduct, ban chokeholds, and addresses racism.

    Its comes as Minneapolis lawmakers vowed to disband the city's police force.

    The death of George Floyd at the hands of a white officer there sparked national pressure for change.

    However, it was unclear whether Republicans, who control the US Senate, will support the proposed Justice in Policing Act of 2020.

    Mr Floyd's brother is expected to testify to the House of Representatives later this week in a hearing on police reform.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52969375

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    Default Re: The death of George Floyd in police hands, Minneapolis, 25 May 2020

    Quote Posted by sunwings (here)
    Psychological operations

    Psychological operations (PSYOP) are operations to convey selected information and indicators to audiences to influence their emotions, motives, and objective reasoning, and ultimately the behavior of governments, organizations, groups, and individuals.

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    US Democrats introduce sweeping legislation to reform police

    US Democrats in Congress have proposed sweeping legislation to reform American police, following weeks of protests against police brutality and racism.

    The bill would make it easier to prosecute police for misconduct, ban chokeholds, and addresses racism.

    Its comes as Minneapolis lawmakers vowed to disband the city's police force.

    The death of George Floyd at the hands of a white officer there sparked national pressure for change.

    However, it was unclear whether Republicans, who control the US Senate, will support the proposed Justice in Policing Act of 2020.

    Mr Floyd's brother is expected to testify to the House of Representatives later this week in a hearing on police reform.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52969375
    The cities that have banned choke holds have less problems with the police.
    Also, depending on how this legislation is written, it could help address the problem of unions not allowing officers to be fired over misconduct.
    That's been a significant hurdle in police reform.

    I think there also needs to be some rethinking of how police conduct crowd control.
    It often became way too heavy handed and at times, even brutal.
    Last edited by edina; 8th June 2020 at 22:25.
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    Default Re: The death of George Floyd in police hands, Minneapolis, 25 May 2020

    Quote Posted by Philippe (here)
    From the Health Ranger :

    FALSE FLAG ALERT: Obama Foundation tweeted about George Floyd on May 17th, a week before his supposed murder

    https://naturalnews.com/2020-06-08-f...rge-floyd.html

    Before we conclude the murder is a false flag, can a tech savvy person explain how such tweet could come about ? Is it a glitch or can a message be anti-dated ? And if yes what could be the purpose to do so? Maybe an overzealous operator at Twitter who decided to paste a poster of Floyd in older tweets? Or is it really a false flag operation and provocation?
    Here are 3 of the comments about this below the Natural News article.
    • The photo was changed to the linked page, therefore the photo in the tweet is updated with the the new thumbnail. No conspiracy here.
    • I saw discussion on this last night. Apparently the twitter post can update the picture so the picture appears to be from the original tweet but it was actually added later with a picture of the protests.
    • Now all posts that include the .org link associated with the Obama foundation that direct to the main page will show that image even if it was a tweet from 2015. Go back and check for yourself. This isn’t a conspiracy.

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    Post Re: The death of George Floyd in police hands, Minneapolis, 25 May 2020

    Davetoo quote:

    When four police officers and multiple bystander witnesses can clearly hear a person pleading for his life that they can't breathe, for more than 5 minutes, and the force is never relinquished, then you can throw all those other law book excuses out the window.[/QUOTE]





    Davetoo's highlighted quote is the exact moment when proper Minnesota state police procedure was violated - making a conviction of murder 2 or 3 possible in court of law.

    This is a point I had made in an earlier post.. I was brutally chastised by Autumn for making the claim that Murder 1 is unlikely because you have to prove intent. Putting emotion and visceral reactions aside, unless some Mark Thurman type audio, or prior racial incidents are produced in court by the prosecution - Murder 1 is not happening - nor should it, IMO.

    As far as the junior officers, AP stories have surfaced reporting that they pleaded with Senior Officer Chauvin to stop/reassess/"You should not do that." Also, in these emergency situations, the Senior officer is in charge and it is very difficult for junior officers to override the dictates of the more experienced/higher ranking officer: hence, I do not believe they are guilty of murder.

    Now the more relevant questions become:

    1. Is this the proper conclusion?

    2. What is the predicted public reaction if this is correct?

    3. Is this where the president, prominent officials, news media could attenuate massive riotous civil unrest through televised diplomatic oratory? Shouldn't those institutions being doing this now instead of droning constant inciteful rhetoric.

    4. Looking at this situation logically from both sides is where the solutions lie in prevention, healing, and creating future harmonious relations.

    Blessings Luke

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    Default Re: The death of George Floyd in police hands, Minneapolis, 25 May 2020

    Police reform sounds like a good idea... As long as it isn't some trick and they do no deputy reform, cause those guys are the biggest harassers and abusers.

    Simple fact of the matter is the military infiltrated the police and sheriffs department and have held secret meetings where they plot to harm people the world over, some of them reporters and politicians and have been known to falsify charges simply to hold people hostage and use third parties to ask for ransoms.

    Some of them are clone hybrids and brainwashed by evil entities that are known for the torture and murder of innocence throughout the multiverse.

    Simply put an analysis of the worlds police and their military would deem them all as manipultive, misguided, confused and suffer ptsd from events that they were the assaulter of and not the victim.

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    Davetoo quote:

    When four police officers and multiple bystander witnesses can clearly hear a person pleading for his life that they can't breathe, for more than 5 minutes, and the force is never relinquished, then you can throw all those other law book excuses out the window.






    Davetoo's highlighted quote is the exact moment when proper Minnesota state police procedure was violated - making a conviction of murder 2 or 3 possible in court of law.

    This is a point I had made in an earlier post.. I was brutally chastised by Autumn for making the claim that Murder 1 is unlikely because you have to prove intent. Putting emotion and visceral reactions aside, unless some Mark Thurman type audio, or prior racial incidents are produced in court by the prosecution - Murder 1 is not happening - nor should it, IMO.

    As far as the junior officers, AP stories have surfaced reporting that they pleaded with Senior Officer Chauvin to stop/reassess/"You should not do that." Also, in these emergency situations, the Senior officer is in charge and it is very difficult for junior officers to override the dictates of the more experienced/higher ranking officer: hence, I do not believe they are guilty of murder.

    Now the more relevant questions become:

    1. Is this the proper conclusion?

    2. What is the predicted public reaction if this is correct?

    3. Is this where the president, prominent officials, news media could attenuate massive riotous civil unrest through televised diplomatic oratory? Shouldn't those institutions being doing this now instead of droning constant inciteful rhetoric.

    4. Looking at this situation logically from both sides is where the solutions lie in prevention, healing, and creating future harmonious relations.

    Blessings Luke[/QUOTE]

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    Default Re: The death of George Floyd in police hands, Minneapolis, 25 May 2020

    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    To my astonishment, I searched for George Floyd on the forum, and his name has not yet been posted. It needs to be. Please do share your thoughts, feelings, and logic (if there's any to be found!) here.

    It's a massive scandal that US police have been going to Israel to learn racist police tactics, and Israelis have even come here to teach them:

    https://israelpalestinenews.org/minn...eck-restraint/

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    Default Re: The death of George Floyd in police hands, Minneapolis, 25 May 2020

    Quote Posted by TomKat (here)
    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    To my astonishment, I searched for George Floyd on the forum, and his name has not yet been posted. It needs to be. Please do share your thoughts, feelings, and logic (if there's any to be found!) here.

    It's a massive scandal that US police have been going to Israel to learn racist police tactics, and Israelis have even come here to teach them:

    https://israelpalestinenews.org/minn...eck-restraint/

    Yes, I believe is the genesis of the problem and kudos to the state of Minnesota dems for formulating a police restraint/training reform


    Blessings Luke

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    Default Re: The death of George Floyd in police hands, Minneapolis, 25 May 2020

    Luke Holiday says,

    This is a point I had made in an earlier post.. I was brutally chastised by Autumn for making the claim that Murder 1 is unlikely because you have to prove intent. Putting emotion and visceral reactions aside, unless some Mark Thurman type audio, or prior racial incidents are produced in court by the prosecution - Murder 1 is not happening - nor should it, IMO.
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    Actually no, Luke. Here is my response, after you claimed you were quite confident he would be convicted of "involuntary manslaughter." I responded that he should be charged with murder, not murder one, just murder. This was my brutal chastisement from the other day.

    Autumn's prior post.

    Luke, I note you advance, retreat, subtly walk back statements that are disapproving of the cop's behavior etc...This is formulaic and something I am familiar with though it just might fly under the radar of other members

    For example--appearing to approve of a conviction of involuntary manslaughter? That's a relatively minor conviction. That's what you get for accidentally backing over somebody while driving. The conviction for the cop would have to conform with the idea that he "accidentally" killed someone while engaging in sadistic behavior, where death could clearly be the result. That's murder.


    And brutal chastisement, would be more like having some cop pin you down for eight minutes and have you read your own witless posts, over and over and over.

    Blessings,:

    Autumn
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    Default Re: The death of George Floyd in police hands, Minneapolis, 25 May 2020

    Nice proverb, Constance. I tell you what... You deal with people who twist your words and meaning and I'll deal with those that twist mine. Trust me, you will never have to put up with insults from me if a situation like this arises for you on this forum. Because...I am not an ass.

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    Sadhguru shines his light on racism and shares his views on BlackLivesMatter

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    https://youtu.be/oUCTtrVUTU0

    Undercover Investigation - Minneapolis Riot Was Preplanned

    https://www.sott.net/article/435967-...Was-Preplanned

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    Default Re: The death of George Floyd in police hands, Minneapolis, 25 May 2020

    Crazy times right now, literally a little hard to believe.

    Without apology to anyone at all (particularly my closest friends here ), here's Tucker Carlson talking a great deal of sense last night in an utterly nonsensical, mob-driven, hysterical climate.


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    Default Re: The death of George Floyd in police hands, Minneapolis, 25 May 2020

    Quote Posted by kfm27917 (here)
    https://youtu.be/oUCTtrVUTU0

    Undercover Investigation - Minneapolis Riot Was Preplanned

    https://www.sott.net/article/435967-...Was-Preplanned

    Wow is this what liberals really want? I can't imagine ever walking something like this back if they have success.

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    Default Re: The death of George Floyd in police hands, Minneapolis, 25 May 2020

    Bill did that Tucker footage remind you of anything? Evergreen, perhaps?

    That's why I was droning on about that so much. This is exactly the sort of thing I feared...the "woke" taking over the asylum. But even I never imagined it happening quite like this.

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    Default Re: The death of George Floyd in police hands, Minneapolis, 25 May 2020

    Interesting to compare the George Floyd case with that of Tony Timpa who was white.

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    Default Re: The death of George Floyd in police hands, Minneapolis, 25 May 2020

    Went to Minneapolis yesterday afternoon to collect some rent. Two families got Covid-19, one still has a daughter in the hospital. Saw three cars ran the red light, one pickup truck cruising at 40 with 4 passengers in the truck bed. Wait till there are no more police and see.

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    Default Re: The death of George Floyd in police hands, Minneapolis, 25 May 2020

    I am listening to this now.


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    This ongoing EPICSODE is so full of agendas all coming together that it is AMAZING. It is mind blowing. Thought this is an interesting interview with Joseph P Farrell....

    Here I heard that club where George Floyd and officer worked was possibly a 3 letter agency front for money laundering and that Floyd may have exposed the operation by spending a counterfeit bill....

    Dr. Joseph P. Farrell | Engineered Unrest, Baal Gates, & The Plandemic
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    Default Re: The death of George Floyd in police hands, Minneapolis, 25 May 2020

    Speaking of crazy times (and stupid, loaded poll questions) - saw this at Neon's place... was it wrong that I laughed?

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