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    Default Re: The death of George Floyd in police hands, Minneapolis, 25 May 2020

    > Sorry to ruin your day, this sure ruined mine. It appears the world has gone insane.
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    > Or at least those in the great US of A. Bad, misplaced attention - all wrong & stupid, but we
    > all know you can hear/see/watch stupid, but you cannot fix stupid. Pity.
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    > After almost one year of burning cities and taking down statues of patriots and Columbus. They have erected a statue of Floyd… No not the barber of the Andy Griffin Show, although he probably deserves it a lot more than this one…
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    > NEWARK, N.J. (PIX11) — New Jersey’s most populous city paid tribute to George Floyd on Wednesday, unveiling a 700-pound bronze statue in his honor outside Newark’s City Hall. Not sure if this is to honor his drug dealing, who made his family millions.
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    > After 6 burglaries, 3 car thefts, committing 2 violent home invasions, 3 armed robberies, beating 4 victims senseless, passing counterfeit money, and being arrested 23 times since 1998, George Floyd hasn't committed a crime in over one year
    > BUT HIS FAMILY HAS RECEIVED $27 MILLION FROM THE STATE AND $20 MILLION FROM “GO FUND ME”
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    > Also, President Biden and his VP met with the Floyd family on May 25th, the one year anniversary of his death.
    > Nancy Pelosi in June of 2020, gave the Floyd family a folded American Flag that had flown over the Capitol on the day he died - as a fallen hero > Think about that one.
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    Default Re: The death of George Floyd in police hands, Minneapolis, 25 May 2020

    Investigative Journalist Maryam Henein (REUPLOAD) | The George Floyd Story You Don't Know
    The Mel K Show - Jan 28

    https://rumble.com/v27ctwm-mel-k-and...ge-floyd-.html



    https://www.mymoviesplus.com/the-real-timeline



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    Default Re: The death of George Floyd in police hands, Minneapolis, 25 May 2020

    Also here posted in the library some months ago (October2022) Candace Owen's,

    The Greatest Lie Ever Sold

    “If a man does not keep pace with [fall into line with] his companions, perhaps it is because he hears a different drummer. Let him step to the music which he hears, however measured or far away.” - Thoreau

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    Default Re: The death of George Floyd in police hands, Minneapolis, 25 May 2020

    George Floyd's autopsy report, worth reading in full. First, here's Stew Peters:

    https://twitter.com/realstewpeters/s...28863125495829

    The full report:

    https://int.nyt.com/data/documenthel...mized/full.pdf


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    Default Re: The death of George Floyd in police hands, Minneapolis, 25 May 2020

    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    George Floyd's autopsy report, worth reading in full. First, here's Stew Peters:

    https://twitter.com/realstewpeters/s...28863125495829

    The full report:

    https://int.nyt.com/data/documenthel...mized/full.pdf


    I see Mr. Peters is continuing his behaviour of stirring the pot with missinformation.

    One of the first replies to Mr. Peters' post was in his Twitterfeed:

    "It's weird that you only post that one page instead of the full report showing that the cause of death was cardiopulmonary arrest caused by law enforcement subduing and restraining him with neck compression. May 25
    Damin Toell
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    The same doctor who wrote that autopsy testified at trial that the neck compression caused his heart and lungs to stop working and that heart disease and drug use were not primary causes."


    Mr. Peters was called out for his selection of only one of the pages of a 20 page report (13 autopsy description and 7 for the toxicology report), exposing the huge fault in his post. Not only is it a clear attempt to stir up racial enmity, but it's just a plain lie. Dr. Baker, author of the report actually testified, under oath, the following (emboldened and enlarged text mine for easier comprehension)

    Medical examiner doubles down on original autopsy finding, labels Floyd’s death a homicide
    Apr 9, 2021 6:50 PM EDT

    https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/me...ath-a-homicide

    By —
    Fred de Sam Lazaro

    "Friday was a closely watched day in the trial of Derek Chauvin, the former police officer charged with the murder of George Floyd. It featured key testimony about what led to Floyd's death from medical examiner Dr. Andrew Baker, who performed the initial autopsy on Floyd's body and declared his death a homicide. Special correspondent Fred De Sam Lazaro has our report.

    • Fred de Sam Lazaro:

    A key and highly anticipated witness today was medical examiner Dr. Andrew Baker, who performed the initial autopsy on George Floyd's body.

    Baker determined Floyd died of cardiopulmonary arrest and declared his death a homicide, meaning simply a death caused by the actions of another person.

    From the transcript:

    • Dr. Andrew Baker:

    That's really just fancy medical lingo for the heart and the lungs stopped.

    • Jerry Blackwell:

    The heart…

    • Andrew Baker:

    No pulse, no breathing. And, in my opinion, the law enforcement subdual, restraint and the neck compression was just more than Mr. Floyd could take, by virtue of that — those heart conditions.

    • Fred de Sam Lazaro:

    Prior to the trial, there had been some confusion about Baker's autopsy findings.
    And, today, both the prosecution and defense tried to parse his report to make their case, arguing over the role controlled substances may have had in Floyd's death.


    • Andrew Baker:

    So, my opinion remains unchanged. It's what I put on the death certificate last June. That's cardiopulmonary arrest law complicating law enforcement subdual, restraint and neck compression.
    That was my top line then. It would stay my top line now.


    • Jerry Blackwell:

    And so, if we look at the other contributing conditions, those other contributing conditions are not conditions that you consider direct causes; is that true?

    • Andrew Baker:

    They are not direct causes of Mr. Floyd's death. That is true. They are contributing causes.


    • Fred de Sam Lazaro:
    The prosecution began the day's testimony by calling Dr. Lindsey Thomas to the stand. She is a forensic pathologist who helped train Baker.


    • Dr. Lindsey Thomas:
    There's no evidence to suggest he would've died that night, except for the interactions with law enforcement.

    • For the "PBS NewsHour," this is Fred de Sam Lazaro.

    Fred de Sam Lazaro is director of the Under-Told Stories Project at the University of St. Thomas in Minnesota, a program that combines international journalism and teaching. He has served with the PBS NewsHour since 1985 and is a regular contributor and substitute anchor for PBS' Religion and Ethics Newsweekly.


    The cause of Mr. Floyd's death is a settled matter.
    So why has Mr. Peters chosen this moment in time to inflame racial hatred? What purpose or person does it serve?

    I guess we'll see.

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    Default Re: The death of George Floyd in police hands, Minneapolis, 25 May 2020

    Quote Posted by Fellow Aspirant (here)
    The cause of Mr. Floyd's death is a settled matter.
    This post here #446 may be a helpful reference as it (accurately) provides a near forensic analysis of the report, and may be helpful in drawing conclusions.

    Whichever view one feels it necessary to take, it was all tragic, for all parties concerned.

    And then of course, there's this:

    The Greatest Lie Ever Sold by Candace Owens, which focuses on the fraudulent nature of the BLM movement (which has recently gone 'bankrupt' (?!!)) and some features in the footage which suggest some direct correlation with the general autopsy findings, not necessarily the conclusion. It reminds me a little of the Marilyn Monroe coroner's 'conclusion', which even today 60 years later still doesn't ring entirely true. Anyway, that's another story.

    Well worth watching, and as is usually the case, if viewed objectively, the viewer draws their own reasonable conclusion. The documentary from 2022.

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    Default Re: The death of George Floyd in police hands, Minneapolis, 25 May 2020

    I have just finished watching this new documentary on the George Floyd death. Leaves one sick to the stomach.

    To be clear - George Floyd's death was horrible and unnecessary. But it was not Derek Chauvin, rather it was the entire sick, corrupt legal, medical, political and justice "establishment" systems that made victims out of not only George Floyd, but countless innocent people. This is not an easy view, but it is a necessary view in my opinion.

    In light of the fact that Derek Chauvin was recently stabbed by an inmate in prison, this festering wound of injustice comes to light again, and will not settle, even though the damage has been done.

    1 hour 42 minutes, highly recommended.

    Quote Alpha News is proud to present “The Fall of Minneapolis.” This documentary is provided free of charge due to generous donors. Please consider a 100% tax-deductible donation to support our work and help promote this film: https://alphanews.revv.co/movie

    The film is based on Liz Collin’s Amazon bestseller, “They’re Lying: The Media, The Left, and The Death of George Floyd,” which exposes the holes in the prevailing narrative surrounding George Floyd’s death, the trial of Derek Chauvin, and the fallout the city of Minneapolis has suffered ever since.

    The documentary features more than a dozen interviews with the people directly involved, including exclusive interviews with former officers Derek Chauvin and Alexander Kueng who spoke to Liz Collin from prison. The families of Chauvin and Kueng also speak out publicly for the first time.

    The film also features current and former Minneapolis police officers who tell their harrowing stories from the riots, recount the planned surrender of the Third Precinct, and explain why so many of them left the job.

    The crowdfunded movie was produced by Alpha News journalist Liz Collin and directed by Dr. J.C. Chaix. Cinematography by Josh Feland.

    Source: https://www.rumble.com/video/v3tdi8y

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    Default Re: The death of George Floyd in police hands, Minneapolis, 25 May 2020

    This video discussion from Glenn Loury & John McWhorter about the death of George Floyd, and the recent documentary about it "The Fall of Minneapolis" posted just above by Arwen is quite good. For those short of time, the last 10-15 minutes sums it all up pretty well.

    [34:41] John McWhorter: People are not going to listen to the facts. George Floyd is going to be seen as this crucial moment on the civil rights timeline when America woke up to certain realities because of the murder of this man. And nothing we say, nothing that documentary says, will change anyone's mind, but I invite people who watch us, to just look at that documentary, spend an hour and a half, pour yourself a cup of coffee, and find that what we thought in early 2020 about the quote-unquote murder of George Floyd has been a massive web of bull****, once again. Tragic.

    The Truth about George Floyd's Death | Glenn Loury & John McWhorter | The Glenn Show
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