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    Significant amount of information was posted here at PA in the last two years about the ‘Chinese Initiative for Disclosure’. The Chinese Initiative is no longer active and all ties to the WCEC are finished.

    See thread on last post in 'Significant Chinese Initiative for Disclosure'.

    World Coalition on Extra-terrestrial Contact (WCEC) had its second meeting this week on June 4th.

    The good news is that there is now even more optimism by all delegates of WCEC new goals as it goes forward. There are now 32 countries and it is expected more countries will join as WCEC progresses.

    WCEC new manifesto has been designed with clarity of purpose. Setting out a definition, direction and purpose. The WCEC will be setting up a charter (rules of the organisation), voting rules, etc at the end of this month.

    Delegates agreed to become an NGO (Non-Government Organisation). A WCEC Office location has been secured and eventual donations and sponsorship will be eventually put in place. A website and TV channel are to be developed. WCEC had its first historical President was voted in.

    In the eventual formation as an NGO, parallel discussions have been taken place at an advanced level with the Crown Prince of Lichtenstein Prince Hans-Adam II. and Claudia Fritsche, Ambassador as Permanent Representative at the United Nations.

    Prince Hans-Adam II is very interested in the UFO subject and on one occasion sponsored a conference on UFOs. Lichtenstein is a very wealthy country and it won’t be a surprise if they finance WCEC. Initial discussions had already indicated this outcome.

    The other good news is that no delegates want any TTSA connections. In fact, any connections with the USA will not be acceptable except for its only one delegate. All delegates are well aware that the USA government is not interested in promoting the exploration of the ET presence and that its Institutional government scientists have no interest in researching the subject.

    Once the WCEC has successfully consolidated its registration for NGO status, supported and financed by Lichtenstein, then this provides for the first time in history a powerful organisation on UFOs/ET presence that will have a permanent presence at the United Nations.

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    For reference, here's the thread: (also by aoibhghaire, from nearly a couple years ago)
    ... and the last post (dated a few weeks ago), which he referred to above, is here.

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    I thought that this lichenstein aristocrat was a member of the illuminati, which makes me wonder about whom this organisation would be serving.

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    Justplain, the WCEC will only be serving the conditions and remit within its manifesto and eventual constitution.

    Lichtenstein as a country's role is only there as an entity to support the WCEC at the United Nations. You can be assured there won't be any infiltration into WCEC. Delegates are not naive enough of not knowing others motivations. In particular, the recent TTSA discussions for some agreement were unanimously rejected. When you consider the wide range of experts worldwide and different cultures it has been reassuring that there has been coherence for the main mission.

    I'm excited for the first time that this historical event having an organisation like WCEC will pave the way for an unprecedented outcomes.

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    Quote Posted by aoibhghaire (here)
    Justplain, the WCEC will only be serving the conditions and remit within its manifesto and eventual constitution.

    Lichtenstein as a country's role is only there as an entity to support the WCEC at the United Nations. You can be assured there won't be any infiltration into WCEC. Delegates are not naive enough of not knowing others motivations. In particular, the recent TTSA discussions for some agreement were unanimously rejected. When you consider the wide range of experts worldwide and different cultures it has been reassuring that there has been coherence for the main mission.

    I'm excited for the first time that this historical event having an organisation like WCEC will pave the way for an unprecedented outcomes.
    If the delegates are still the same as was announced on a previous thread, then I am hopeful that the WCEC could play a very positive role in bringing to study of ufology to an international level. Of course, one should always be a little wary of Prince Hans Adam's participation, just as one should have been wary of what mainland Authoritarian China wanted from this project when they were sponsoring it.

    One should also be concerned about what happens if a department within the United Nations is established. We have seen other United Nations divisions get corrupted, such as the World Health Organization (WHO) get corrupted by the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation and other big pharma interests.

    No matter who is involved, we should always realize that there are big powerful vested interest who will try and co-opt the message of any prominent organization study UFOs and alter the message to suit their own agenda.
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    Thanks for this update aoibhghaire. Glad to know that the work of WCEC is continuing despite the world wide pandemic shutdown. Some questions, if you know or can say:
    • Why is China no longer sponsoring the WCEC? Was this mainly a decision by the Chinese or by the WCEC? [Edit: Nevermind, I see you answered in this post. Never the less, I find it hard to believe a coal mining disaster ended this.]

    • You mentioned a new headquarters has been secured. Can you say more about what part of the world it will be located in?

    • Is the primary goal still to present an initiative to the UN similar to the one of Sir Eric Gairy of Grenada introduced in the last 1970s? Any idea as to when this may happen?

    Thanks!
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    Kryztian, to answer your questions and I'll also expand on the WCEC NGO status in relation to UN.

    1. The China circumstances of not been involved in this initiative are due to the major mining disaster which I understand creating significant financial problems for Heze. I also understand that there was corruption at some level. That’s about all I know based on others communicating with the Major of Heze.

    2. The new WCEC HQ will be in Italy.


    3. There were different circumstances back in 1978 when Granada took the initiative independently. They set up a committee and then invited persons in Ufology, astronauts, scientists . It was planned to have the UFO subject announced by the Secretary General of the UN, but this didn’t happen because of a coup taking place back in Granada. President Geary of Granada disappeared and the whole project was abandoned. Previous historical meetings initiated through the UN have always had resistance from specific countries that if the ET/UFO issue were to be accepted. However, there are other countries that have official sections studying UFOs from the perspective of for example, understanding aircraft air corridors near misses with UFOs.

    In the case of the new WCEC initiative, selected delegates were invited from each country. In order to have a minimum effective position to influence information it was required to have 30 delegates or 30 countries for the UN and to reach that level to becoming a NGO status.

    The NGO serves WCEC in many ways. It provides a platform to inform all countries that are members of the UN. In particular, supporting the many countries that are currently working on UFO research.

    Applying to be an NGO serves the organisation in many ways.

    It will support countries that are currently working on UFO research.

    WCEC working with the UN System: WCEC has the opportunity with different scenarios:

    This would be the ideal situations availing of every opportunity with an emphases on EDUCATION. This paramount remit of WCEC due to the unfortunate history of debasing the UFO subject. Every country has had or still has UFOs operating within their territories. Historically every country has had not only case histories of events but have evidence (scientific , materials, etc) on a minority of cases. The evidence from so many countries may have a significant effect in possible future policies for some countries.

    This can be gradually be addressed as a soft strategy. It will be a unique to UFOs in its relationship to the many other acceptable programmes that are instigated by the UN. A programme of transforming this perception to a global reality.

    Non-governmental organizations (NGOs) can participate in the work of the UN in one of two ways: either through consultative status with the Economic and Social Council (ECOSOC), or association with the UN Department of Global Communications (DGC).
    Consultative status with ECOSOC

    Consultative status with the Economic and Social Council provides NGOs with access to not only ECOSOC, but also to its many subsidiary bodies, to the various human rights mechanisms of the United Nations, ad-hoc processes on small arms, as well as special events organized by the President of the General Assembly. There are three types of ECOSOC consultative status for NGOs. ECOSOC consultative status is separate and distinct from association with Department of Global Communications (DGC)

    Association with Department of Global Communications or for short DGC

    The Civil Society Unit of the UN DGC is the link from the Organization to the approximately 1,500 Non-governmental Organizations (NGOs) that are associated with the UN and support its efforts to disseminate information.

    The UN has a Civil Resource Centre, a unique space that is accessible for representatives of WCEC with UN Department of Global Communications. It would provide an opportunity to learn, meet and network at the United Nations HQ.

    UN Resource Centre Facilities with WCEC materials:

    An information area with publications, posters, newsletters and other printed material on the work of the UN and WCEC, Funds and Programmes. Provides networking space, conference room , flyers and bulletins about events of the Unit.

    Department of Global Communications Computer access to WCEC
    Formal UN sessions and special events. A number of governments have official sections dealing with UFOs.

    Survey on misinformation about UFOs and the ET presence.

    The UN needs the help and effort of WCEC to disseminate accurate information and counter stigma and myths. Requires action based on scientific evidence.

    UFO organizations from all over the world, whatever their affiliation. The WCEC can facilitate the exchange of information and develop partnerships with important organisations to enhance their interaction with and understanding of the work of the UN. This can be from a small unit connected to WCEC. This can be a repository of information to the public.

    A Unit of the WCEC of the UN Department of Global Communications could hold briefings on a regular basis on topics on the UN’s agenda that are of interest or relevant to the work of WCEC. The briefings assist WCEC with their advocacy efforts on behalf of the UN and offer a unique opportunity to interact and network with representatives of civil society, academia, business communities, and member states working on similar issues.

    It would be worthwhile to have a link with the following:

    Deputy Director-General United Nations Office at Vienna (UNOV) and Director of the United Nations Office for Outer Space Affairs (UNOOSA), whose remit is to brief journalists on the issue of international cooperation in the peaceful uses of outer space.

    Simonetta Di Pippo is an Italian astrophysicist, Director UNOOSA. She leads the Office's strategies, policies and activities, ensuring that they are implemented in accordance with the mandates of the General Assembly, the Committee on the Peaceful Uses of Outer Space (COPUOS), and the established policies of the United Nations. She advises the Secretary-General of the United Nations and Director-General of the United Nations Office at Vienna (UNOV) and provides expertise on matters relating to the peaceful uses of outer space, and the use of space science and technology for sustainable development and disaster risk reduction.

    Conclusion

    The above scenarios are possible for the new WCEC NGO status in using the UN in order to be an effective force for the future. All WCEC delegates recognise the significance of their actions. This is the first time historically that there is the possibility narrowing the present dichotomy in closing this gap.

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    Quote Posted by aoibhghaire (here)
    Kryztian, to answer your questions and I'll also expand on the WCEC NGO status in relation to UN.

    1. The China circumstances of not been involved in this initiative are due to the major mining disaster which I understand creating significant financial problems for Heze. I also understand that there was corruption at some level. That’s about all I know based on others communicating with the Major of Heze.

    2. The new WCEC HQ will be in Italy.


    3. There were different circumstances back in 1978 when Granada took the initiative independently. They set up a committee and then invited persons in Ufology, astronauts, scientists . It was planned to have the UFO subject announced by the Secretary General of the UN, but this didn’t happen because of a coup taking place back in Granada. President Geary of Granada disappeared and the whole project was abandoned. Previous historical meetings initiated through the UN have always had resistance from specific countries that if the ET/UFO issue were to be accepted. However, there are other countries that have official sections studying UFOs from the perspective of for example, understanding aircraft air corridors near misses with UFOs.

    In the case of the new WCEC initiative, selected delegates were invited from each country. In order to have a minimum effective position to influence information it was required to have 30 delegates or 30 countries for the UN and to reach that level to becoming a NGO status.

    The NGO serves WCEC in many ways. It provides a platform to inform all countries that are members of the UN. In particular, supporting the many countries that are currently working on UFO research.

    Applying to be an NGO serves the organisation in many ways.

    It will support countries that are currently working on UFO research.

    WCEC working with the UN System: WCEC has the opportunity with different scenarios:

    This would be the ideal situations availing of every opportunity with an emphases on EDUCATION. This paramount remit of WCEC due to the unfortunate history of debasing the UFO subject. Every country has had or still has UFOs operating within their territories. Historically every country has had not only case histories of events but have evidence (scientific , materials, etc) on a minority of cases. The evidence from so many countries may have a significant effect in possible future policies for some countries.

    This can be gradually be addressed as a soft strategy. It will be a unique to UFOs in its relationship to the many other acceptable programmes that are instigated by the UN. A programme of transforming this perception to a global reality.

    Non-governmental organizations (NGOs) can participate in the work of the UN in one of two ways: either through consultative status with the Economic and Social Council (ECOSOC), or association with the UN Department of Global Communications (DGC).
    Consultative status with ECOSOC

    Consultative status with the Economic and Social Council provides NGOs with access to not only ECOSOC, but also to its many subsidiary bodies, to the various human rights mechanisms of the United Nations, ad-hoc processes on small arms, as well as special events organized by the President of the General Assembly. There are three types of ECOSOC consultative status for NGOs. ECOSOC consultative status is separate and distinct from association with Department of Global Communications (DGC)

    Association with Department of Global Communications or for short DGC

    The Civil Society Unit of the UN DGC is the link from the Organization to the approximately 1,500 Non-governmental Organizations (NGOs) that are associated with the UN and support its efforts to disseminate information.

    The UN has a Civil Resource Centre, a unique space that is accessible for representatives of WCEC with UN Department of Global Communications. It would provide an opportunity to learn, meet and network at the United Nations HQ.

    UN Resource Centre Facilities with WCEC materials:

    An information area with publications, posters, newsletters and other printed material on the work of the UN and WCEC, Funds and Programmes. Provides networking space, conference room , flyers and bulletins about events of the Unit.

    Department of Global Communications Computer access to WCEC
    Formal UN sessions and special events. A number of governments have official sections dealing with UFOs.

    Survey on misinformation about UFOs and the ET presence.

    The UN needs the help and effort of WCEC to disseminate accurate information and counter stigma and myths. Requires action based on scientific evidence.

    UFO organizations from all over the world, whatever their affiliation. The WCEC can facilitate the exchange of information and develop partnerships with important organisations to enhance their interaction with and understanding of the work of the UN. This can be from a small unit connected to WCEC. This can be a repository of information to the public.

    A Unit of the WCEC of the UN Department of Global Communications could hold briefings on a regular basis on topics on the UN’s agenda that are of interest or relevant to the work of WCEC. The briefings assist WCEC with their advocacy efforts on behalf of the UN and offer a unique opportunity to interact and network with representatives of civil society, academia, business communities, and member states working on similar issues.

    It would be worthwhile to have a link with the following:

    Deputy Director-General United Nations Office at Vienna (UNOV) and Director of the United Nations Office for Outer Space Affairs (UNOOSA), whose remit is to brief journalists on the issue of international cooperation in the peaceful uses of outer space.

    Simonetta Di Pippo is an Italian astrophysicist, Director UNOOSA. She leads the Office's strategies, policies and activities, ensuring that they are implemented in accordance with the mandates of the General Assembly, the Committee on the Peaceful Uses of Outer Space (COPUOS), and the established policies of the United Nations. She advises the Secretary-General of the United Nations and Director-General of the United Nations Office at Vienna (UNOV) and provides expertise on matters relating to the peaceful uses of outer space, and the use of space science and technology for sustainable development and disaster risk reduction.

    Conclusion

    The above scenarios are possible for the new WCEC NGO status in using the UN in order to be an effective force for the future. All WCEC delegates recognise the significance of their actions. This is the first time historically that there is the possibility narrowing the present dichotomy in closing this gap.
    I only have one question:Why WCEC didn't remain independent with no affiliation to any other organizations "build" by the system and step by step to replace these organizations for the benefit not only the humankind but also for other civilizations and building here a REAL better world for everyone?
    "Your planet is forbidden for an open visit - extremely aggressive social environment,despite almost perfect climatic conditions.Almost 4 billion violent deaths for the last 5000 years and about 15000 major military conflicts in the same period."

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    EFO, thanks for your most important question.

    The early days of putting together such a project as the WCEC, was recognised by all delegates that it was imperative to be independent. This is the case of setting up WCEC. It hasn’t been easy because most of the time has been taken up trying to select the right delegates from each country. It is a requirement that they not only accept the mission of WCEC but have had to sign a written agreement. There are no other affiliations to WCEC, only official delegates that can carry out the remit of the WCEC.

    WCEC has been gradually building up from its first stage as outlined above. WCEC has had to set realistic goals and most important clarity of purpose and how to achieve them.

    The WCEC is an independent body with its manifesto and eventual constitution.

    When the WCEC is registered and recognised as an NGO then it is in a position as the only repository of information to communicate to the public via the UN. This provides an important departure from any other agendas that have influenced the UFO subject with bias and mixed intents for the last 75 years. The UN is being used as the vehicle to disseminate this information through for example education. WCEC does realise there are other organisations in the world not within the UN, who have remits and interests that are not aligned to the WCEC.
    For example, TTSA has its own agenda that does not fit WCEC mission. Recent discussions were severed and its relationship with TTSA. TTSA did not recognise the reality and presence of extra-terrestrial intelligence around the Earth. It is not independent, and is affiliated to the CIA with hidden policies and agendas that are not aligned with mankind.

    WCEC as an NGO is the entity that can inform the UN. The UN would be relying for all expertise and knowledge from the WCEC.
    This foundation can grow on to be recognised as the definitive organisation that can lead to many possibilities, some of which you mentioned in your question.

    I hope that clarifies.

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    It sounds as though the WCEC is not seeking to receive any financing from the UN or creating an organization which would be financed by the UN?

    That seemed to be the initiative that Eric Gairy was attempting to put through in 1978-79. He didn't face any opposition from the U.S., partly because Jimmy Carter was president and had met with Gairy at the White House and the exchanged their U.F.O.stories. However, the delegation from the United Kingdom was complaining about wasting money which could be put to "an otherwise good cause" and made it seem like it would be an embarrassment to the U.N to be affiliated with the UFO issue. Also, the New York times continued to paint Eric Gairy as a nutcase (he did have a larger than life personality) on a crazy crusade. I believe that a his initial presentation, there was a snow storm and few people were present on the floor of the General Assembly. When Gairy came back to New York months later , the coup happened while he was waiting to meet Kurt Waldheim, which basically meant he no longer had an power or authority at the U.N.

    Gairy remained in the U.S. for 4 more years, until his usurper, Maurice Bishop, was killed and the U.S. invaded Grenada. He spent some time in San Diego where he met several occultist and ufologist, including a contactee, Wes Bateman. Bateman supplied many of the ideas ("wormholes", "The Prime Directive", etc.) that ended up in the original Star Trek series. Gairy told him a very interesting story which is recounted here: http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread845986/pg1

    Since the WCEC doesn't seem to be looking for funding from the U.N. and since the New York Times taken the UFO issue seriously, those are a few hurdles that have been overcome.

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    A recent meeting of the organisation has taken a serious note of the developments in the last 3 years as regards UAPs.

    This is important as to what will be the perception of the new organisation by the media, public, etc. The provisional title for the name WCEC will change now to an official title that will be announced at a major UFO Conference in Italy this weekend. Although the title name will be announced there won’t be any further information like websites for the media to check out. The new organisation is in a working state developing website, media TV, etc. These items will be available within 3 months from the announcement. The title name has changed to reflect the present and future of the organisation. The original name WCEC was initiated back in 2018, but significant developments have occurred since then. See previous posts.

    The official name will be announced because of the opportunity in a timely way that when considering the accelerating number of recent official government UFO type announcements and media events. The timing has to be measured because we don’t know if the USA via Pentagon announcements, etc will announce DISCLOSURE. The trickle of unexpected recent announcements indicates additional disclosures by others and may be more to come. Its important that the new organisation is not side-lined if a dramatic announcement is made. Hence the new organisation readiness to anticipate such an announcement. Even if the public have no idea that these developments are occurring, it’s important that the new organisation and structure are in place before it announces itself to the public at the end of the year.

    In particular, the recent announcements by Senator Marco Rubio. Rubio said some of the unidentified aerial vehicles over U.S. bases possibly exhibited technologies not in the American arsenal. Eric Davis has upgraded the narrative a bit that we are dealing for example, Davis, “We couldn’t make it ourselves.” Or “off world vehicles” etc.

    Mr. Reid, the former Democratic senator from Nevada who pushed for funding the earlier U.F.O. program when he was the majority leader, said he believed that crashes of vehicles from other worlds had occurred and that retrieved materials had been studied secretly for decades, often by aerospace companies under government contracts.

    President Trump, who told his son Donald Trump Jr. in a June interview that he knew “very interesting” things about Roswell — a city in New Mexico that is central to speculation about the existence of U.F.O.s. The President demurred when asked if he would declassify any information on Roswell. “I’ll have to think about that one,” he said. In Trump’s interview he was dealing with his son as the interviewer, not the MSM who would have a bias. It also indicates Trump knows a lot more about the reality of the situation.

    In addition, the META MATERIALS aspect throws a different light of attention. Still the public are unaware at large to these developments.

    The noise of the Covid pandemic has diluted any worldwide attention to the UFO/ET situation.

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...-hit-the-wires

    The narrative up to now has been by some individuals in the media for the last two decades that just dilute the narrative for policy reasons by others in authority. This has frustrated the whole situation.

    However, the new WCEC organisation will have the right spokesperson(s), with the right credentials to take this subject to the next phase. This is so powerful because you have for the first time in history a global organisation that has delegates in 32 countries, a sovereign state supporting the initiative and by having an NGO representation at the United Nations, creates a powerful lobby to communicate effectively for the first time. See previous posts for more explanations.

    One has to measure the evidential outcomes from what is being recently presented.

    Interestingly enough, the recent documentary ‘UNIDENTIFIED’ series has slightly changed its narrative to now using the word UFOs.
    A change from the previous use of the word UAPs in its series of UNIDENTIFIED episodes. This is significant as I believe there is more to come.

    One of the WCEC delegates from the Argentine namely Andrea Perezsimondini spoke privately to Luiz Elizondo when he was in the Argentine making the recent episode for the documentary UNIDENTIFIED. She was disappointed with the narrative within the series that is creating a bias. In particular having key persons that were skeptical of the subject matter. Luiz agreed with Andrea that the selection of interviewees in Argentine did not represent the reality of events. Luiz said the final script is carried out by the TV production company making the series. This particular series of UNIDENTIFIED is focussed on the participation of the military. However, he did say that there will be a third UNIDENTIFIED series that will be focused on the META MATERIALS.

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    A recent meeting of the organisation has taken a serious note of the developments in the last 3 years as regards UAPs.

    This is important as to what will be the perception of the new organisation by the media, public, etc. The provisional title for the name WCEC will change now to an official title that will be announced at a major UFO Conference in Italy this weekend.

    The noise of the Covid pandemic has diluted any worldwide attention to the UFO/ET situation.
    Hi aoibhghaire,

    Do you possible know that if the Conference in Italy will be filmed and than uploaded on Internet for public view?Thank you.

    Despite that worldwide attention to the UFO situation has diluted,as you said,I can confirm you that "they" are still here more "visible" than before and even behavior.Lowest speed,more powerful power-ups,more star like "cloaking" (after "acknowledging" its presence it start moving or power-up or fading its light).I saw even a triangular shape or formation having the shape of a flattened rectangular triangle,which for me wasn't very usual before.
    "Your planet is forbidden for an open visit - extremely aggressive social environment,despite almost perfect climatic conditions.Almost 4 billion violent deaths for the last 5000 years and about 15000 major military conflicts in the same period."

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    1h 30min - 1h 38 min. Gary Heseltine about WCETC.

    "Earth is currently restricted today for normal development of timeline progress. With us telling you everything would change everything."

    Website: Information Machine

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    Hi EFO,

    This is the only information I know. Here are some details.
    If you find the link in how to participate online I would welcome that.

    I'll answer your other questions later.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JciX-HIxsSM

    CUN's Online World UFO Symposium 2020

    Organization:
    Roberto Pinotti (President CUN / WCEC)

    Speakers:
    Massimo Angelucci (Italy)
    Roberto Bedini (Italy)
    Harry Challenger (UK)
    Paolo Guizzardi (Italy)
    Robert Fleischer (Germany)
    Moon Fong (China/Honk Kong)
    A.J. Gevaerd (Brazil)
    Stanislav Grinkin (Russia)
    Gary Heseltine (UK)
    Roberto Pinotti (Italy/RSM)
    Don Schmitt (USA)
    Javier Sierra (Spain)
    Andrea Perez Simondini (Argentina)

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    Hi EFO,

    This is the only information I know. Here are some details.
    If you find the link in how to participate online I would welcome that.

    I'll answer your other questions later.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JciX-HIxsSM

    CUN's Online World UFO Symposium 2020

    Organization:
    Roberto Pinotti (President CUN / WCEC)

    Speakers:
    Massimo Angelucci (Italy)
    Roberto Bedini (Italy)
    Harry Challenger (UK)
    Paolo Guizzardi (Italy)
    Robert Fleischer (Germany)
    Moon Fong (China/Honk Kong)
    A.J. Gevaerd (Brazil)
    Stanislav Grinkin (Russia)
    Gary Heseltine (UK)
    Roberto Pinotti (Italy/RSM)
    Don Schmitt (USA)
    Javier Sierra (Spain)
    Andrea Perez Simondini (Argentina)
    Thanks to your yt link,I reached CUN's web site,from there to CUN's facebook page,from there to Roberto Pinotti's facebook page and from there to Roberto Pinotti's web site and scrolling down is his email address info (at) newsufo.com

    I would gladly ask him about the conference,but since I don't have any background or some reputation in the field.I don't think that he will reply to my question...
    "Your planet is forbidden for an open visit - extremely aggressive social environment,despite almost perfect climatic conditions.Almost 4 billion violent deaths for the last 5000 years and about 15000 major military conflicts in the same period."

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    Quote Posted by aoibhghaire (here)
    Hi EFO,

    This is the only information I know. Here are some details.
    If you find the link in how to participate online I would welcome that.

    I'll answer your other questions later.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JciX-HIxsSM

    CUN's Online World UFO Symposium 2020

    Organization:
    Roberto Pinotti (President CUN / WCEC)

    Speakers:
    Massimo Angelucci (Italy)
    Roberto Bedini (Italy)
    Harry Challenger (UK)
    Paolo Guizzardi (Italy)
    Robert Fleischer (Germany)
    Moon Fong (China/Honk Kong)
    A.J. Gevaerd (Brazil)
    Stanislav Grinkin (Russia)
    Gary Heseltine (UK)
    Roberto Pinotti (Italy/RSM)
    Don Schmitt (USA)
    Javier Sierra (Spain)
    Andrea Perez Simondini (Argentina)
    Thanks to your yt link,I reached CUN's web site,from there to CUN's facebook page,from there to Roberto Pinotti's facebook page and from there to Roberto Pinotti's web site and scrolling down is his email address info (at) newsufo.com

    I would gladly ask him about the conference,but since I don't have any background or some reputation in the field.I don't think that he will reply to my question...

    Try to find contact to Robert Fleischer (Germany). I’ve met him somewhere at the Exopolitics conference, have an email contact somewhere (but where).

    https://mobile.twitter.com/robflei?lang=en

    But he’s very level headed and closest to you geographically, I’m sure he would be happy to answer to your inquiry or provide whatever help.

    ( I’m too far to go so can only take 2.30 AM bus to Zeta Reticuli 🌟🙏 gracias amigos, Cheerios, que nada )
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    Hi EFO,

    I mentioned the dilution of UFO news versus the noise of the Covid pandemic situation. I believe now that more key people whom had no interest in this topic are seriously researching this out. In particular the MSM, who for the first time are not ridiculing the debate as it was over 3 years ago. I’m optimistic in time that with every announcement and a bit of disclosure within those announcements will still be a challenging policy for governments leading to a DISCLOSURE.

    The scale of UFO activity has not waned. In fact from statistics researched out so far from many countries in the last two years shows that the reports are still steady, if not actually increasing in some countries. I think what you will see in the future is an ever increase in UFO activity correlating with MSM frequency of news and announcements. The ET/UFO awareness is monitoring all the time this matter and I suspect that ever more UFO activity will be so active that more people will want to be more educated about this subject.

    It’s a complex subject with a ‘tug of war’ so to speak that IMHO is at pivotal point in time that with every bit of disclosure may come to the final DISCLOSURE.

    I’m glad you were able to find the links to the conference. I wouldn’t hesitate to contact CUN directly whom are the organisers of the conference. Of course you could contact Roberto Pinotti, but be aware he may be busy in preparations for the online conference. I’m surprised there is no contact point link for the online conference for the public to attend. That’s the whole point of doing this online conference for the public to attend. CUN has provided many annual conferences for the past decades.

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    The temporary organisation title ‘World Coalition for Extra-terrestrial Contact’ (WCEC) has now finally ceased as a title as of yesterday.
    The new title ‘International Coalition for Extra-terrestrial Research’(ICER) has been globally agreed on and will be officially announced today at the CUN Online International Symposium in Italy. See Post 14.

    There are 32 countries (32 delegates). The minimum requirement to register an NGO is 30. This will be pursued once the organisation structure is fully finalised.

    Ongoing discussions have been taking place with Lichtenstein in order to officially support the ICER. Once this is in agreement, then ICER as an NGO will be launched at the United Nations.

    This will provide for the first time in history an organisation of this nature to play an official role on the world stage.

    ‘International Coalition for Extraterrestrial Research’(ICER):

    The structure of ICER mission and goals has been provisionally developed. Again, once delegates agree to its aims and goals then this will be launched on the new website which at present is a work in progress (WIP) status.
    In addition, a media TV channel is also in a WIP status.

    DISCUSSION:

    There is an urgent realisation amongst delegates to make progress, to establish and launch ICER as early as possible. The events happening within this subject with measured announcements of disclosing more official information, indicates that there may be a lead up to a DISCLOSURE in the future.

    However, this is a complex subject that requires monitoring in order to understand where the role of ICER comes in. Once ICER is on the world stage, it will be interesting with this new entity how the present ‘tug of war’ may be disrupted by this new entity and possibly a new narrative may gain momentum for the future. This could possibly supersede the future agendas at present bringing new countries into the fold of the ICER narrative, that are not necessarily aligned with the US with its old agenda. I suspect many countries would welcome the opportunity of knowing more about the UFO reality, and in particular the extra-terrestrial presence.

    Interestingly enough the US has this recent historical sequence of announcements which originally started off as UAPs from December 2017 to Mid July 2020. August 2020 is now discussed officially as UFOs. There is quite a distinction in the names UAP and UFO, what they mean and what their perceptions and understandings provide for mainstream.

    ICERs future is to announce and provide the evidence that we are dealing with extra-terrestrial intelligence with exogenous constructs that are in our presence. This remit disrupts the narrative for the TTSA and any other US government programs. This situation will be complex for the TTSA and ATTIP or its other secret in house Pentagon programs, with its narratives who already have agendas that don’t fit the evidence of the reality that the ET presence is here.

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