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    Note: Thank you to SilentFeathers for posting this great video by Gregg Braden. Gregg has broken down the method that is being used to divide everyone that we have all been witnessing, and this video would be appropriate to post in a number of threads that are all dealing with this underlying manipulation to divide people of the world from the family level to nations.

    Most people on the forum already see it, but it might be a good video to share with family members or others you may know because it doesn't demonise any particular part of society being used in the agenda we are seeing being played out, but points to the method used to bring about the breakdown by causing the disconnect many are feeling. Thanks again to SilentFeathers


    Gregg Braden explains what's going on (relating to this thread) pretty clearly, he makes a lot of sense.

    Quote Gregg Braden’s ‘IN FOCUS!’ - Beyond Mainstream Narrative Series, Eps 2 – What is happening to America? Why, where, and how a spontaneous division between people and nation occurred, and is rapidly accelerating. AMERICA DEVIDED is the topic of discussion in today’s ‘IN FOCUS’ episode.
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    https://twitter.com/TheWakeninq/stat...553626115?s=20

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    Default Re: The planned takedown of America: now in full swing.

    later edit - after posting, search shows this general has been discussed at Avalon since 2011 and this speech/link by onawah in Dec 2020.

    I see different J. R. Nyquist blog entries about it - 9/11/2019 and one posted below.

    but the meme is going around again


    https://twitter.com/ChinaUncensored/...659896321?s=20







    receipts..

    https://jrnyquist.blog/2020/01/30/ge...ical%20weapons.

    Posted on January 30, 2020

    General Chi’s Nasty Wuhan Soup: A Recipe for BioWar?

    Only by using non-destructive weapons that can kill many people will we be able to reserve America for ourselves. There has been rapid development of modern biological technology, and new bio-weapons have been invented one after another. Of course, we have not been idle…. We are capable of achieving our purpose of ‘cleaning up’ America all of a sudden.

    GENERAL CHI HAOTIAN

    In a secret speech given to high-level Party cadres nearly two decades ago, Chinese Defense Minister, Gen. Chi Haotian, explained a long- range plan for ensuring a Chinese national renaissance. He said there were three vital issues that must be grasped. The first was the issue of living space — because China is severely overpopulated and China’s environment is deteriorating. The second issue, therefore, is that the Communist Party must teach the Chinese people to “go out.” By this Gen. Chi meant the conquest of new lands in which a “second China” could be built by “colonization.” From this arises the third vital issue: the “issue of America.”

    General Chi warned his listeners: “This appears to be shocking, but the logic is actually very simple.” China is “in fundamental conflict with the Western strategic interest.” Therefore America will never allow China to seize other countries to build a second China. America stands in China’s way. Chi explained the problem as follows:

    Would the United States allow us to go out to gain new living space? First, if the United States is firm in blocking us, it is hard for us to do anything significant to Taiwan, Vietnam, India, or even Japan, [so] how much more living space can we get? Very trivial! Only countries like the United States, Canada and Australia have the vast land to serve our need for mass colonization.

    “We are not as foolish as to want to perish together with America by using nuclear weapons,” said the general. “Only by using non-destructive weapons that can kill many people will we be able to reserve America for ourselves.” The answer is found in biological weapons. “Of course,” he added, “we have not been idle, in the past years we have seized the opportunity to master weapons of this kind.”

    The ruling Chinese Communist Party considers biological weapons to be the most important weapons for accomplishing their goal of “cleaning up America.” Chi credits Deng Xiaoping with putting biological weapons ahead of all other weapon systems in the Chinese arsenal:

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    Default Re: The planned takedown of America: now in full swing.

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    “We are not as foolish as to want to perish together with America by using nuclear weapons,” said the general. “Only by using non-destructive weapons that can kill many people will we be able to reserve America for ourselves.” The answer is found in biological weapons. “Of course,” he added, “we have not been idle, in the past years we have seized the opportunity to master weapons of this kind.”

    The ruling Chinese Communist Party considers biological weapons to be the most important weapons for accomplishing their goal of “cleaning up America.” Chi credits Deng Xiaoping with putting biological weapons ahead of all other weapon systems in the Chinese arsenal:
    The destruction of America is certainly well underway and has been for a long time with the ultimate goal being one world government. That said we must move through a new multipolar world order before one world government is achieved. The country forcing this issue is the one that will gain the most, China. Their control over the WHO allowed them to unleash the global virus with decisive impunity and no consequences. I am absolutely baffled by people's support of China. No thinking is required, and no dots need to be connected to understand the horrific world fallout if/when China takes a moral leadership role. Russia has already forfeited its world stage prominence to China and has become just a pawn in the play (albeit an important pawn).

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    Default Re: The planned takedown of America: now in full swing.

    Quote Posted by mountain_jim (here)
    I see different J. R. Nyquist blog entries about it
    Yes, do search through https://jrnyquist.blog. He maintains (sometimes alarmingly persuasively!) that there's been a well-organized, long-term campaign to infiltrate the US at all levels for decades now, which may be soon reaching its fully successful conclusion.

    I don't agree with everything Nyquist says. Not at all: he still regard Russia as the USSR merely with different clothes, and seems to disregard the agendas of the US Deep State, as if US policymakers have always been the good guys.

    My geopolitical view is very different, but Nyquist, though barely anyone interviews him any more, is worth reading simply for historical context (he's excellent at that) and to stimulate thought.


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    Default Re: The planned takedown of America: now in full swing.

    So here in the US , they (the government) is now flying or bussing 1000 illegal immigrants to new york city DAILY, which most are now being housed in high rise hotels . Yes it is a plot to overwhelm the system, yes it is a plot to change America. I believe Obama, Jarrett , Rice, Soros are all behind this entire thing, we hardly ever hear who is in charge of anything in DC in the biden administration, unless they are a trans then they get their picture splattered in the news.

    Just think about this, an illegal immigrant comes all the way from south america and gets put up in a big hotel- how bat shxt crazy is that!

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    Quote Posted by pyrangello (here)
    So here in the US , they (the government) is now flying or bussing 1000 illegal immigrants to new york city DAILY, which most are now being housed in high rise hotels . Yes it is a plot to overwhelm the system, yes it is a plot to change America. I believe Obama, Jarrett , Rice, Soros are all behind this entire thing, we hardly ever hear who is in charge of anything in DC in the biden administration, unless they are a trans then they get their picture splattered in the news.

    Just think about this, an illegal immigrant comes all the way from south america and gets put up in a big hotel- how bat shxt crazy is that!
    Yes, one of the main tools used to destroy the fabric of America is immigration. The Biden government has astonishingly turned over complete control of the border to the Mexican drug cartels. It is simply a weapon in the quiver of cultural and social destruction. Sadly the USA has reached ZPG so robust immigration is necessary but no country in the world can sustain long-term illegal immigration which allows, criminals, gang members, unlimited drugs, and the overwhelming, unorganized, constant flow of people without collapsing in on itself. The USA has probably reached this point it will just take years to understand it.

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    Default Re: The planned takedown of America: now in full swing.

    Hello,

    Could this be connected to the planned takedown.

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/senator...rity-measures/

    Quote Amid growing concerns of security risks to members of Congress, more than 50 senators have been issued satellite phones for emergency communication, people familiar with the measures told CBS News. The devices are part of a series of new security measures being offered to senators by the Senate Sergeant at Arms, who took over shortly after the assault on the U.S. Capitol on January 6, 2021.

    The satellite phone technology has been offered to all 100 senators. CBS News has learned at least 50 have accepted the phones, which Senate administrative staff recommend senators keep in close proximity during their travels.

    In testimony before the Senate Appropriations Committee last month, Senate Sergeant at Arms Karen Gibson said satellite communication is being deployed "to ensure a redundant and secure means of communication during a disruptive event."

    Gibson said the phones are a security backstop in the case of an emergency that "takes out communications" in part of America. Federal funding will pay for the satellite airtime needed to utilize the phone devices.

    A Department of Homeland Security advisory said satellite phones are a tool for responding to and coordinating government services in the case of a "man-made" or natural disaster that wipes out communication.

    Gibson has also opened an office "demonstration space" in the basement of the Russell Senate Office Building to offer senators and staff an exhibition of new home state office security upgrades. The demonstration room offers exhibitions of "duress buttons," mail screening devices and safety glass to reduce the risk of attacks.
    AND:



    Could be a simple precauation and or something more to it.

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    Default Re: The planned takedown of America: now in full swing.

    I didn't know any of this information before. I'm guessing most of you didn't, either.

    Jovan Hutton Pulitzer explains why there has, systematically, been no election integrity in the US since 1982.

    On November 1st 1982 there was a Republican and Democrat Party Consent Decree to NOT SUE Over Election Integrity.

    Dominion is NOT a voting machine company, it's a software company.

    An accusation of Fraud federalises a complaint, which throws it outside the state were it should be handled, and so it's thrown out or ignored.

    The whole election system is silently rigged in this way.


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    Default Re: The planned takedown of America: now in full swing.

    But fortunately, or unfortunately, depending on how you look at it, China is falling apart at the seams internally, which may be making the CCP take all the more desperate means to conquer.
    (See the Turmoil in China thread for proof of that, and links to the many youtube news outlets that are covering that process as it escalates.)
    Another non-nuclear option other than bioweapons that can kill many people is weather weaponry, and China could be severely crippled simply if the 3 Gorges Dam were to fail.
    I don't know which nations have that technology that would use it against China, but if Taiwan has it, it would explain why the CCP has been all bark and not much bite concerning that nation.
    But the dam is built on a fault line and given what shoddy construction is typical of China (their infrastrure fails regularly, especially the dams), and given how earthquakes will continue to grow in strength and frequency as Earth's magnetic field continues to diminish, the 3 Gorges dam could fail simply from natural causes.
    Meanwhile, their economy is failing, the population quota is failing, their environment is extremely toxic, and they are in the midst of yet another pandemic (though that could be attributed as well to the toxic environment).
    The CCP's Orwellian policies against its own citizenry have become so extreme that the people are rebelling even though the punishment is severe and often fatal.
    The CCP has certainly not been rendered harmless yet, but its days could be numbered, just as the numbered days of each of its aging leading members.
    (More about the psychopathic means by which the CCP is waging non-nuclear war on other nations:
    Five countries secretly sharing intelligence say China is the No.1 threat
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    "Showing off deadly weaponry in massive war games is a tactic China and the United States both use to try to avoid full-on combat. But the truth is the two countries, as well as other nations including Australia, are already battling it out in an invisible war. There are no frontline soldiers but there are significant skirmishes. Until now these conflicts have been kept quiet, but key members of a secretive alliance of top cops from Australia, the United States, the United Kingdom, Canada and New Zealand are about to change that. In exclusive interviews with Nick McKenzie, the group known as the “Five Eyes” disclose startling information about the trouble they’re seeing."


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    “We are not as foolish as to want to perish together with America by using nuclear weapons,” said the general. “Only by using non-destructive weapons that can kill many people will we be able to reserve America for ourselves.” The answer is found in biological weapons. “Of course,” he added, “we have not been idle, in the past years we have seized the opportunity to master weapons of this kind.”

    The ruling Chinese Communist Party considers biological weapons to be the most important weapons for accomplishing their goal of “cleaning up America.” Chi credits Deng Xiaoping with putting biological weapons ahead of all other weapon systems in the Chinese arsenal:
    The destruction of America is certainly well underway and has been for a long time with the ultimate goal being one world government. That said we must move through a new multipolar world order before one world government is achieved. The country forcing this issue is the one that will gain the most, China. Their control over the WHO allowed them to unleash the global virus with decisive impunity and no consequences. I am absolutely baffled by people's support of China. No thinking is required, and no dots need to be connected to understand the horrific world fallout if/when China takes a moral leadership role. Russia has already forfeited its world stage prominence to China and has become just a pawn in the play (albeit an important pawn).
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    Wokeopolypse


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    Default Re: The planned takedown of America: now in full swing.

    An idle armchair question.

    What's the status of the freight shipping backlog off the coast of America ?

    There are Chinese, Iranian and other countries' special forces crossing the southern border, probably to settle in and await a call to action.

    Where are the weapons they will use ?

    Weapons must have to get in somehow. Most likely via the freight ports. (Or perhaps weapons stashes have already been piled up)

    I've heard nothing about the waiting ships off the coast since a long time ago. As long ago as when Trump was still president, I think.
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    Default Re: The planned takedown of America: now in full swing.

    Quote Posted by norman (here)
    An idle armchair question.

    What's the status of the freight shipping backlog off the coast of America ?

    There are Chinese, Iranian and other countries' special forces crossing the southern border, probably to settle in and await a call to action.

    Where are the weapons they will use ?

    Weapons must have to get in somehow. Most likely via the freight ports. (Or perhaps weapons stashes have already been piled up)

    I've heard nothing about the waiting ships off the coast since a long time ago. As long ago as when Trump was still president, I think.
    25/08/2022

    https://www.cnbc.com/2022/08/25/chin...truggling.html

    Wednesday, November 23, 2022

    https://www.freightwaves.com/news/ze...ff-other-ports

    2023-05-30 18:25

    https://min.news/en/economy/8dbf0f95...36d76aae8.html


    NB: There seems to be less freight shipping to USA

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    Default Re: The planned takedown of America: now in full swing.

    wrt this 'takedown' phenomenon: I think there is a generic takedown of all nations, to pave way for a globalist New World Order. But there are also special targets. One is the US, as the dominant representative of the Anglosphere - the UK being number two on this list. Russia is a special target since Putin because she seems to have decided to fight for her national identity, religion, civilization.

    Before Putin, the Russian leadership class and its managerial-intellectual minions - often not really Russian 'oligarchs', and certainly hostile to the nation as its spirit - was happy to destroy Russia, in order to profit from the destruction: their allegiance/ membership was directed at the globalist leadership class.

    At a spiritual level, the globalist project - with its materialist metaphysics and this-worldly hedonic morality - has been a major tool of the beings of purposive spiritual evil. from this perspective, it seems that different peoples (and sometimes these are nations, sometimes these are races) have a different overall spiritual destiny - and only some have a leadership role (others have other intended roles). Therefore, the demonic strategy has also been to maximize population mixing, and to destroy and such sense of different destinies.

    Since I am English, I am clearly aware of the top-down anti-Englishness of our ruling class and the managerial-intellectual classes (of which I am a member, by occupation). This was very explicit in relation to Brexit, when the hatred of England, Englishness and actual English people was vehement; and the loyalty to... anywhere else and anybody else was evident.

    What exactly it is about the English destiny they are so desperate to crush, is very interesting to me! Following the Brexit vote and for a few years I was a co-blogger on Albion Awakening which addressed exactly this spiritual question.

    But there will be some analogous spiritual destiny going on in the USA - which it would be well worth Americans considering; and it will Not be what most Americans think - just as real Englishness is Not about The British Empire or its monarchy!

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    Default Re: The planned takedown of America: now in full swing.

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    wrt this 'takedown' phenomenon: I think there is a generic takedown of all nations, to pave way for a globalist New World Order. But there are also special targets. One is the US, as the dominant representative of the Anglosphere - the UK being number two on this list. Russia is a special target since Putin because she seems to have decided to fight for her national identity, religion, civilization.

    Before Putin, the Russian leadership class and its managerial-intellectual minions - often not really Russian 'oligarchs', and certainly hostile to the nation as its spirit - was happy to destroy Russia, in order to profit from the destruction: their allegiance/ membership was directed at the globalist leadership class.

    At a spiritual level, the globalist project - with its materialist metaphysics and this-worldly hedonic morality - has been a major tool of the beings of purposive spiritual evil. from this perspective, it seems that different peoples (and sometimes these are nations, sometimes these are races) have a different overall spiritual destiny - and only some have a leadership role (others have other intended roles). Therefore, the demonic strategy has also been to maximize population mixing, and to destroy and such sense of different destinies.

    Since I am English, I am clearly aware of the top-down anti-Englishness of our ruling class and the managerial-intellectual classes (of which I am a member, by occupation). This was very explicit in relation to Brexit, when the hatred of England, Englishness and actual English people was vehement; and the loyalty to... anywhere else and anybody else was evident.

    What exactly it is about the English destiny they are so desperate to crush, is very interesting to me! Following the Brexit vote and for a few years I was a co-blogger on Albion Awakening which addressed exactly this spiritual question.

    But there will be some analogous spiritual destiny going on in the USA - which it would be well worth Americans considering; and it will Not be what most Americans think - just as real Englishness is Not about The British Empire or its monarchy!
    Are you familiar with 'The Destiny of Nations' by Alice Bailey (Djwal Khul)?

    But dropping down from the spiritual aspect..

    I would agree with your main premise, however I think the 'takedown' is now more centered on the West, namely the old British Empire and Europe. Recent developments elsewhere in the world would seem to indicate a pull-back or withdrawal from a good percentage of 'the rest of the world'. Notably the BRICS alliance, the recent strengthening of ties between Russia and China, Saudia talking to Iran again amongst others.

    I'm familiar with the thread on a Multi-Polar World, and close examination would concur overall but the broader perspective might suggest a Bi-Polar World. Not withstanding 'agents' of the WEF may well exist in almost every country in the world, at least of any significance. Others, less politically connected or powerful could simply be bullied. Political strife and coups will always be a factor as long as men believe in their petty earthly desire for power and control.

    Which would be par for the course for the age old human problem of tribalism 'Us and Them'. Separation.
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    RED ALERT: America's Marxist Revolution is Nearing the Point of No Return -- Xi Van Fleet Interview
    Man In America - Streamed on May 30

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    The Testimony Of Yuri Bezmenov-1984-Chapter_3_Cultural Subversion

    He warned us nearly 40 years ago. They moved their base of operation over to China, and so it's continued.

    https://rumble.com/v2r58rn-the-testi...ubversion.html


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    There is a single will and purpose behind all conspiracies

    'Conspiracy Theory' is correct, compared with the incoherent and non-explanatory nonsense that the world Just Happens to be driven continually in the direction of secular Leftism, generation after generation.

    (e.g. The idea that sustained directionality through time in the face of entropy can be simulated by purely hypothetical/ non-sensical bottom-up 'emergent' properties of the system. On examination; such theories either exclude entropy and opposition; or a priori assume that emergence is real, rather than discovering emergence from observations.)

    But conspiracy theories (CTs) never go far enough; but always stop at some intermediate level where - it is asserted - some particular grouping of human beings is engaged in enhancing their own long-term self-interest at the expense of everybody and every-thing else.


    Different CTs assert different conspiratorial groups, and different sizes of groups - and the posited groups differ somewhat in terms of their ultimate goal (e.g. power, wealth, lust, spiteful destruction); but all CTs are wrong if they stop the analysis it the level of any group at all.

    When Gandalf says to Saruman that only one hand can wield the One Ring at a given time; he was stating a general truth about strategic power.

    Insofar as power is pursuing any particular direction across time and in the face of the many wills of this world - as well as entropy; power must be single.


    Of course, below that single point at the peak of the pyramid; there are many other agendas pulling in different directions, and resistances pushing in many directions.

    The resulting clash of wills leads to apparent 'chaos', and 'randomness' at the level of our everyday discourse and observation. Only if we take a step back, and infer what lies behind the trends, may we additionally infer that there needs to be a single will - not a committee of multiple, and selfish, wills - on top of it all.

    This single will is nowadays clearly 'the devil' in some sense.

    But it need not be the same single demonic will operating at all times in history. Because as Gandalf says, one hand at a time can wield the One - over time there has been more than one hand wielding it.

    Thus the devil may change his nature through time and will the progression of his plans (e.g. power corrupts), or perhaps one ruling-devil may be replaced by another ruling-devil, with different priorities.


    After all, the dominant nature of evil - especially in The West - seems to have changed considerably over the past several hundreds of years (from Luciferic, to Ahrimanic, and now to Sorathic).

    Part of this trend from seeking positive personal gratifications, through seeking materialistic bureaucratic objectification, to spiteful sheer-destructiveness; is simply because it is Much easier (in this entropic world) to destroy than to build.

    So that power-as-such (whether political, managerial, personal or any other) is Much more effective in opposition, negation, and destruction; than it is effective in pursuit of any positive goal. Because of this, we need to distinguish purpose from destruction: purpose is imposed, while destruction Just Happens.


    Yet at any particular time, so long as there is sustained directionality to this world; there will be just one purpose and will standing atop whatever hierarchy of groups and conspiracies may be in-place at any particular moment.

    This explains why groups so often act against their own obvious self-interests - whether short- or long-term; and why every individual leader is regarded as expendable within The System - no matter how high-up, effective, or 'loyal' - and no matter how apparently powerful he may be.

    Ultimately, the entirety of the leadership class - all groups, and all the individuals within groups - are merely regarded as expendable tools for the single will that sits atop The System.

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