What's your best guess what this hard polarisation in the world is really about ? . . . .

[norman]

My view, right now, is that it's a standoff between two opposing aspirational 'commitments' to achive a "oneness" or unity of all. Cerebral (mind) oneness versus what I'll have to call, for now, because I don't have a better word for it, heart oneness.

What do you folks think it's all about ?


Please don't make this another head banging political, race, culture thread. We're all human beings and we all go deeper than those things.

[Ernie Nemeth]

This is the topic that interests me too. I have delved into it on Chris' thread, Enlightenment and related Matters: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...lated-matters.

If the individual gets too involved in materiality and death, the larger picture is overlooked. Life is a cycle. We are born, we live for a time, and then we die. We are needed for our genes to be passed on to the next generation and then the biological imperative dissolves. Yet we continue to live beyond that imperative. It is this realization that is not addressed in our society.

Sentience is a great honor and comes with considerable responsibility. Sentience is bestowed for a reason. That reason has a personal and a collective component. The personal part is the ambitions of accomplishment and the contemplation of existence. It is an absolute duty to consider the larger questions for each individual because that honors the gift of self-reflection. It is here, in the pursuit of answers to humanity's most long-standing queries, that a suitable stance can be formulated that reflects an individual's honest searching. A person's moral conviction should be the result of an inward delving, not the spouting of some one else's musings. For in the end there is no absolute truth in this regard, just the relative experience of fallible beings.

Swedenborg has a lot to say about this stuff. It is about Divine truth and Divine love. And how the devout can be deceived into believing they are pious people worthy of a place in heaven but when they arrive they are surprised to find that they're rejected and must do penance ina purgatory until they understand their mistake. That to act in charity inspired by the word is laudable. But if the charity is because the word demands it in the Decalogue and it is for this reason they are charitable then, while the Divine truth has touched them, the Divine love had not infused them. For it is by Divine influx that mankind exists. And without this influx, the spirit of the Lord, love cannot do its work on the heart of a person.

He says it way better than my paraphrasing...

[EFO]

Posted by norman (here)
My view, right now, is that it's a standoff between two opposing aspirational 'commitments' to achive a "oneness" or unity of all. Cerebral (mind) oneness versus what I'll have to call, for now, because I don't have a better word for it, heart oneness.

What do you folks think it's all about ?


Please don't make this another head banging political, race, culture thread. We're all human beings and we all go deeper than those things.

I don't see it as an

standoff between two opposing aspirational 'commitments'

,but more as division of an "old world" in which one part will "keep its habits" but in a new different light of some sort and the other part,due to its "new vision" and to infinite benefic possibilities is trying to find a common path.

Things are different than ever before and as one once said:"We have to find the connectivity with others."

[Ron Mauer Sr]

It is an experiment. "They" said let's put them in a room where our children, living on the leading edge of creation, cannot see outside. Will our children claim their power or will they give it away? Our children are powerful creators. We will observe what happens.

I suspect that we will learn that we all are extensions of Source energy on Prime Creator's eternal journey of creation and Self discovery. We are apertures to the universe looking at and discovering ourselves.

The illusion of separation is a big part of the game we play.

Those being manipulated by the dark side want us fighting ourselves so we do not recognize who the real enemy is.

[scotslad]

Whilst I am not a biologist, viralogist or expertologist, I think that -

Viewpoint 1: A multi-faceted test to a) see how sovereign countries would react and whether they would follow official guidelines, b) whether individuals would follow their own country's propaganda and for countriesto see what potential steps they might have to take in order to control their public/masses.

Viewpoint 2: Part of an economic test to destroy markets, kill share prices and control markets, logistics/supply lines and even the food chain to monitor the results and make appropriate acquisitions, financial dependencies and unemployment.

Viewpoint 3: A test of a biological weapon to identify - impact, effect, traceability and govt's abilities to track, trace and deal/cope with it - perhaps in conuction of 1 and 2 above.

Viewpoint 4: Partial ascension whereby humans are being reminded of and encouraged to love, provide service and gratitude. For those who have gotten their head down, soldiered on, giving selflessly and helping others (and consciousness to grow) by paying it forward and doing good deeds - have probably seen massive intrinsic growth and benefit from last 3-5 months. (perhaps the universe testing/reminding mankind that we need to realign our values and ways or we ourselves will cause havoc on our planet. (I believe I fall into this category)

Viewpoint 5: A great opportunity to dumb down and distract the public, furlough them and keep them watching netflix and unfolding dramas in the media whilst much bigger agendas are being mapped out as we get distracted by the current events.

Could even be a combo of each/all of the above.

One thing for sure, I've achieved wads personally in last 3 months and eagerly await to participate in my next part of the journey - as long as I continue not to get sucked into the media/news.

We need to raise and maintain our own vibration and frequency and continue to resonate with others at that level and not get drawn down to the levels that "some" would like us to be in and in fear, stress or pain

[Peter UK]

Posted by norman (here)
My view, right now, is that it's a standoff between two opposing aspirational 'commitments' to achive a "oneness" or unity of all. Cerebral (mind) oneness versus what I'll have to call, for now, because I don't have a better word for it, heart oneness.

What do you folks think it's all about ?

If I had to qualify it, I would say it's a struggle of power regarding the future orientation of the planet and by implication humanity. Those involved incorporate fundamentally quite different agendas, hence the polarising effects of a lot of what is being played out. And although this appears to be stating the obvious, it's not over.

How we relate to the word power is significant, it has options within it but there is a diametric divide in its implementation as a force for good or otherwise and that is what makes the times we live in a moment of crisis of opportunity. How we handle that opportunity is of real importance, as individuals and collectively we can produce a seismic shift in that balance, we all can play our part in that through the nature of the choices we make and our understanding. It will require different responses from people such as insight, courage, determination and not least wisdom. What will eventuate from that need not be underestimated, if handled in that manner it should result in a new paradigm for living.

[RunningDeer]

Timelines collapsing; stories now being sorted, rough drafts and final drafts. The frayed rope are the diversity of topics until we see it’s creation creating.

Many narratives for the many. All designed to keep us apart and at wits’ end, worried, exhausted, fearful, confused. It’s the time of great transition and we are all doing it in a way that best fits our life stories, our biology, our knowings.

Some are visceral, deep inward feeling type. While others process through intellectual dialogue that gets hot and spicy [at times]. Some stories overlap and some go solo, until it’s all out of our systems. We come together. We accept uniqueness of stories and allow each to grow theirs without trespass.

We begin anew with unique perspectives intact. Some choose to move onward, while others work towards completion of dialogues and unfinished experiences.

Others lag too far behind, an imbalance of outward and inward. Clock runs down. No experience of inner consciousness, nor connections with vast consciousness. And some are too dark, soul-less and soon forgotten.

♡

[EFO]

The Great Dictator Speech (by- Charlie Chaplin ) with Subtitles HD
(4:20 min.)

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=-HA8kSdsf_M

Do the "others" ever understand?

[Delight]

Posted by RunningDeer (here)

Some are visceral, deep inward feeling type. While others process through intellectual dialogue that gets hot and spicy. Some stories overlap and some go solo. Until it’s all out of our systems. We come together. We accept uniqueness of stories and allow each to grow theirs without trespass.
...........
We begin anew with unique perspectives intact. Some choose to move onward, while others work towards completion of dialogues and unfinished experiences.

It's this POV pretty much that allows EVERY POV. I think some of us have chosen to look beyond all the stories and seek a bedrock that is outside context/content. For instance IMO the most important principles are meant for us to SERIOUSLY work on ourselves by way of relationship. I think I am not the only one that KNOWS IF we all followed the Golden Rule with our full conscious attention (Know thyself and what Thy desires and then adhere 100% to only extending that referenced action)

There would be a whole new ball game.

What I have been struck by lately is the way that we are being presented a contant onslaught of small, medium and BIG Lies. It has actually become laughable (except that the agreements to believe and follow yield horrors). Yesterday at the local Tractor Supply, my cashier was saying as many have, that we cannot believe anything and that makes her doubt everything. This is very interesting. Maybe our slap in the face will lead to new considerations?

Sagas like the ones where people claim they are the Saviors and use completely fabricated evidence run the gamat. What Cory Goode and Bill Gates have in common with all the other manipulative cheating and lying SOBs is their desire to use US for their plans and no compunctions concerning means. Megalomania is not always writ large. it can be in our own intentions if we think we must compete and trample others to survive? IMO we are NOW supposed to realize how our stories are based on false premises. I suspect the larceny and "power over" still shadowing our hearts leads us to accept positioning that supports evil intention.

YEP the time is now... Know Thyself and Know the truth, not the tale.

[Ron Mauer Sr]

I am being reminded of the children's movie "The Dark Crystal".


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzgVPB5dpgg


Nice ending.

[RunningDeer]

Posted by Ron Mauer Sr (here)
I am being reminded of the children's movie "The Dark Crystal".


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzgVPB5dpgg


Nice ending.

(2 minutes)

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=ZzgVPB5dpgg

[Delight]

This is long but illuminating to me....

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=pRCzZp1J0v0

[Wind]

Ignorance of the spiritual laws leads to disharmony, illnesses and conflicts.

Karma playing itself out in the stage of the world, we merely being the actors.

Belief in the myth of separation caused by the ego is one of the root causes of suffering.

[shaberon]

When you ditch the glittery world of news and politics, then Norman's basic question is its own answer.


Reality v. Illusion.

The one who successfully lives in the heart changes their own aura, and other beings respond or can sense it.

If you fall out, there is nothing outside it other than misery and death.

That is why I quit paying attention to news and most of the western psychological drama. Nothing to be gained from it. I only changed, recently, due to world-wide karma demanding attention by interfering with regular life.

The only thing to be gained, is by immersion in the heart, one may defeat the enemy within.

By "heart", I do not mean pleasant emotions, but something more like an eternal flame.

At that point, it does, perhaps, become cultural. In my native culture, it is not found to be important. This is why I have renounced most of it, and have become a Buddhist convert. All it does is focus in the heart and amplify it to infinity. Whereas there may be other traditions that hint at this or perhaps employ it to some extent, comparatively, they are less complete. So by saying Buddhism, it means this is more complete, more reliable. It does not mean that non-Buddhists are utterly ignorant about the heart, but, what they teach and transmit is not as complete.

Therefor, I can definitely be accused of bias or favoritism, if viewed in terms of the brain-mind and outer appearances. That makes it difficult to communicate, as I am frequently told this is a theory or belief. If I can't communicate, I can't really help anyone or share karma, which is why this is something like the opposite of savior-ism. I am not trying to bombard anyone with news and political turmoil until they join my ranks. All we have is more of a grass-roots philosophical transformation from within. Basically the same difference as the OP.

It is just the laws of nature, you get two choices. One goes down and out into the world of phenomena, which are fleeting, the other goes in and up to a sphere that is body-less and enduring.

Buddhism has also observed the distortion and decay of the west, without, itself, being affected. So it has nothing to do with any of that. None. Never fell for it. So it is easy to look back at the previous part of my life, and understand what I was tricked by. Because it is run by experts who do not understand our Path, I tend to say there is no one and nothing there. All that needs to be done is silence/ignore/dismiss them. Once accomplished, I doubt we are ever going to sit around and work up a philosophy that says, hey, if we inject your blood with germs, animal tissue, and heavy metals, then you are a fit person. That can only happen if you believe in outer methods.

[ljwheat]

some interesting food for thought this a big peace to ponder

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=V_EDQSp5ayU

HE IS ONTO a lot, just saying..

[Ron Mauer Sr]

It is an adventure.

I had a dream. I was watching a play as I moved around in the audience watching from different perspectives. Suddenly I realized that I was the audience, the actors on stage and the playwright.

[AutumnW]

Ultimately it may boil down to the soul's struggle to mount a defense against the machine.

The soul has to learn that it can become so enmeshed within the machine that it doesn't realize it. It can't realize it without external input. Those who are relying on the machine's narratives and videos to shock them into a "new consciousness" are falling for one of many deceptions nesting within several layers of deception.