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    Seriously, why can't we?


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    Seriously, why can't we?
    Because some people's happiness involves bossing other people around. Just happened to me at the post office. Social distancing was not enough, I was supposed to include the postal staff in the 10-person limit count.

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    "If we stopped racism, if people stopped hating each other, people might talk to each other and see what the real problem is ... its greedy people." - Richard Pryor
    When you are one step ahead of the crowd, you are a genius.
    Two steps ahead, and you are deemed a crackpot.

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    As a general statement, we do live together and we live together very well. The vast majority of people on this planet interact with their families, friends, acquaintances, fellow workers, and even our neighbors well. The majority of people on Avalon (most of the time) interact with each other very well.  We have been led down the garden path to believe the majority of people on this planet are evil, racist, self-centered, corrupt, and mean spirited. This is a lie that you must guard against and not believe. If you accept this false premise then you have lost. A broken person is one that is malleable and easy to manipulate.

    There are a lot of reasons why people think the world is evil but I assure it is not. In today's world, the main offenders pushing hate and division are mainstream media, social media, and the internet. I can assure you this will pass. The 24/7 news cycle is unavoidable even if you haven't owned a TV for decades. All media wants to keep people in a hypercritical state regardless of the issue, environment, race, politics, health, and economics. They are the masters of using labels to divide us against each other. Once people start identifying with their "assigned" labels (race, age, gender, sexual preference, economic status, etc) they lose the ability to work towards a better society. They begin to believe that fighting for and defending their tribe will move society forward. Nothing could be further from the truth. I can assure you this tribalism will pass. Media is already being exposed, the internet and social media are in an evolutionary state, it will change for the better.

    Evil is real and it does exist. It has always been here and will always be, sometimes it can "appear" to be taking over but this is an illusion. Mankind's DNA will not allow it to take over. Humanity will survive with all its blemishes and imperfections. If you have allowed the seed of doubt (about the survival of humans) to grow then you have let your guard down.

    Evil is intelligent, clever, and deceptive. It feeds on the susceptible in an attempt to turn the masses. Life is a gift, don't let evil determine the perception of your life or the world.
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    Quote Posted by rgray222 (here)
    As a general statement, we do live together and we live together very well. The vast majority of people on this planet interact with their families, friends, acquaintances, fellow workers, and even our neighbors well.
    Even the neighbors, yeah

    But sadly beyond that, if you go to the wrong place, won't be worth much

    Quote The majority of people on Avalon (most of the time) interact with each other very well. We have been led down the garden path to believe the majority of people on this planet are evil, racist, self-centered, corrupt, and mean spirited. This is a lie that you must guard against and not believe. If you accept this false premise then you have lost. A broken person is one that is malleable and easy to manipulate.
    I think that phrase could mean more like in a global level, across the world, not just one country

    If you go to an African nation, there are some that hold very bad will against white people, they may kill you for no reason but to be white. Then there are others that will be happy to see you and share food and home and have fun and take pictures and take to you the airport and hope you come back visiting soon

    Quote There are a lot of reasons why people think the world is evil but I assure it is not.
    In today's world, the main offenders pushing hate and division are mainstream media, social media, and the internet. I can assure you this will pass. The 24/7 news cycle is unavoidable even if you haven't owned a TV for decades. All media wants to keep people in a hypercritical state regardless of the issue, environment, race, politics, health, and economics. They are the masters of using labels to divide us against each other. Once people start identifying with their "assigned" labels (race, age, gender, sexual preference, economic status, etc) they lose the ability to work towards a better society. They begin to believe that fighting for and defending their tribe will move society forward. Nothing could be further from the truth. I can assure you this tribalism will pass. Media is already being exposed, the internet and social media are in an evolutionary state, it will change for the better.
    I have seen countries that have little TV time, down to 1 hour a week or so, and mostly radio songs and can barely find food every day, yet they go and still find ways to be racist against each other, or simply hate because of religion or social level

    Quote Evil is real and it does exist. It has always been here and will always be, sometimes it can "appear" to be taking over but this is an illusion. Mankind's DNA will not allow it to take over. Humanity will survive with all its blemishes and imperfections. If you have allowed the seed of doubt (about the survival of humans) to grow then you have let your guard down.
    For sure it will, high hopes for that, but it should not take away from looking at the stuff that is really happening out there, is not good most times, or lovely, i have seen terrible things in places that usually are said to be 'beautiful' but only if you go visit the right places and don't look 'the wrong way'

    Quote Evil is intelligent, clever, and deceptive. It feeds on the susceptible in an attempt to turn the masses. Life is a gift, don't let evil determine the perception of your life or the world.
    Indeed, but also go see for yourself so you are seeing the full truth, not just what one or other side said. And never be afraid to look at the bad stuff directly in the eyes, it's the only way you have to see the difference between good or bad. You need to know how both sides feel and look like

    If you go and see the bad stuff directly, you quickly realize that the world is not a good place, but people living across it are, and not all of them are good

    People end up being animals, so you have to understand that, but let's not go into that, is a terrible thing to discuss and wonder about

    I think we (as humanity) have a lot of stuff to fix, but let's work on it, because we can't just say "we are cool" when we are not really, it's a very hard thing and probably no one has a good answer on how to do this. But at least i guess we can get in agreement that everything is not and won't be right until we really look deep into the problem

    I guess i go against 'no worry, everything is going to be alright' lol, but only partially, it may get better for me a lot, but terrible for someone else at the same time :/
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    As a general statement, we do live together and we live together very well. The vast majority of people on this planet interact with their families, friends, acquaintances, fellow workers, and even our neighbors well. The majority of people on Avalon (most of the time) interact with each other very well.  We have been led down the garden path to believe the majority of people on this planet are evil, racist, self-centered, corrupt, and mean spirited. This is a lie that you must guard against and not believe. If you accept this false premise then you have lost. A broken person is one that is malleable and easy to manipulate.

    There are a lot of reasons why people think the world is evil but I assure it is not. In today's world, the main offenders pushing hate and division are mainstream media, social media, and the internet. I can assure you this will pass. The 24/7 news cycle is unavoidable even if you haven't owned a TV for decades. All media wants to keep people in a hypercritical state regardless of the issue, environment, race, politics, health, and economics. They are the masters of using labels to divide us against each other. Once people start identifying with their "assigned" labels (race, age, gender, sexual preference, economic status, etc) they lose the ability to work towards a better society. They begin to believe that fighting for and defending their tribe will move society forward. Nothing could be further from the truth. I can assure you this tribalism will pass. Media is already being exposed, the internet and social media are in an evolutionary state, it will change for the better.

    Evil is real and it does exist. It has always been here and will always be, sometimes it can "appear" to be taking over but this is an illusion. Mankind's DNA will not allow it to take over. Humanity will survive with all its blemishes and imperfections. If you have allowed the seed of doubt (about the survival of humans) to grow then you have let your guard down.

    Evil is intelligent, clever, and deceptive. It feeds on the susceptible in an attempt to turn the masses. Life is a gift, don't let evil determine the perception of your life or the world.
    I agree, but I don't think that your average Joe is evil, just lazy, self centred and at times wilfully ignorant.

    Remember, for evil to thrive it only needs good people to standby and do nothing
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    I also agree that the media constantly promotes fear and division through their "programming".

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    Quote Posted by rgray222 (here)
    Evil is intelligent, clever, and deceptive. It feeds on the susceptible in an attempt to turn the masses. Life is a gift, don't let evil determine the perception of your life or the world.
    As long as psychopaths rise to the top, this will be a problem. As long as there are powerful families generationally predisposed to psychopathy, it will be what we have today.

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    I think that there are much more good people in this world than evil ones, maybe even 100:1.
    But that 1% of evil people are running the show, so it is easy to assume that the world is full of evil people.

    And also, most of the people tend to better remember bad deeds towards them than good ones.
    If someone does you a favour 10 times, but 11th time he can't, that is exactly what you will remember.

    Now, there is something else. Aldo I said that there is only 1% of evil people, there is at least 10-30% of bad people.
    By bad I mean selfish. When someone is extremely selfish, up to the point of hurting others for ones own gain, that is an evil person.
    But if someone is not hurting anyone or anything, but is selfish and not se eager to help others, that is a bad person.

    At least that is how I see things, correct me if I'm wrong.

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    It seems a solution has been found!

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    Humanity has lost its way. Complexity and sophistication have lead to confusion and an inability to solve fundamental issues that plague the modern world.

    Our institutions are rigid and incapable of responding to novelty except by dominance and appropriation.

    In a world increasingly removed from nature we have forgotten our roots. Artificial environments and abstract priorities landscape our experience and dulls our senses. Turpitude results and fosters superficial and incomplete attitudes and beliefs.

    Yet we know there is more to us. We hear it whispered in the breeze. We catch a glimpse of it at moments of serenity. We might even feel it in the gentle caress of a loved one. There is more to us and it is this that is missing. Yet we somehow know it is this unspoken bond, this ephemeral connection, this link to the eternal, that is more important by far than our material existence and all its business, 'busy-ness'.

    Yet our institutions do not address it, our work dismisses it, and our lives are empty because of it.

    The forces of darkness feed off this indecisiveness, this void that threatens to devour our misplaced fortitude.

    As the world goes global, our personal lives matter less and less. As the world goes global, the pressing issues are increasingly ignored in favor of global issues. Global issues are many, too few people is not one of them.

    To this world, YOU DO NOT MATTER!
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    Quote Posted by Ernie Nemeth (here)
    Humanity has lost its way. Complexity and sophistication have lead to confusion and an inability to solve fundamental issues that plague the modern world.

    Our institutions are rigid and incapable of responding to novelty except by dominance and appropriation.

    In a world increasingly removed from nature we have forgotten our roots. Artificial environments and abstract priorities landscape our experience and dulls our senses. Turpitude results and fosters superficial and incomplete attitudes and beliefs.

    Yet we know there is more to us. We hear it whispered in the breeze. We catch a glimpse of it at moments of serenity. We might even feel it in the gentle caress of a loved one. There is more to us and it is this that is missing. Yet we somehow know it is this unspoken bond, this ephemeral connection, this link to the eternal, that is more important by far than our material existence and all its business, 'busy-ness'.

    Yet our institutions do not address it, our work dismisses it, and our lives are empty because of it.

    The forces of darkness feed off this indecisiveness, this void that threatens to devour our misplaced fortitude.

    As the world goes global, our personal lives matter less and less. As the world goes global, the pressing issues are increasingly ignored in favor of global issues. Global issues are many, to few people is not one of them.

    To this world, YOU DO NOT MATTER!

    Wow, nice. Will that fit on a T-Shirt?

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    Maybe we fell for the fake?


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    Every human is a question asked to the Spirit of the Universe,again and again,because every human is an endless row of humans and in all humans together dwelling the Great Human Spirit.

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    Quote Posted by Ernie Nemeth (here)
    Humanity has lost its way.
    Or led astray?

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    Quote Posted by TomKat (here)
    Quote Posted by Ernie Nemeth (here)
    Humanity has lost its way.
    Or led astray?
    Yes, led down the easy path, the comfortable, clear path everyone else is being led down.

    Quote “Do not go where the path may lead, go instead where there is no path and leave a trail.”

    -Ralph Waldo Emerson
    Quote Jesus said, If they say to you, “Where did you come from?” say to them, “We came from the light, the place where the light came into being on its own accord and established itself and became manifest through their image.” If they say to you, “Is it you?,” say, “We are its children, we are the elect of the living father.” If they ask you, “What is the sign of your father in you?,” say to them, “It is movement and repose.” (50)

    Gospel of Thomas
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    All we like sheep...


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    Study Nature, Nature is getting along as it should be. That includes battles, winning and loosing a predator prey situation, killing , eating and being eaten well as basking in the sun in downtime and as the animals sleep.
    Perhaps everything is always as it should be?
    It ain't pretty, not my doing, but it is how it is .

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