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    https://veilofreality.com/2020/06/20...the-real-deal/



    Qanon Ė The Great Awakening: PsyOp or the Real Deal?

    By Bernhard Guenther, June 20, 2020
    Chapters:

    Introduction and Personal Reflections
    Following the Rabbit and Disillusionment
    Qanonís Information and Strategy
    Trump: The Trickster Archetype And The Art Of War
    Critical Thinking and Self-Work
    Project Looking Glass and Occult Chess Games
    The Great Awakening and Divine Will
    Doom and Gloom Fringe Conspiracies, i.e. ďItís all a trap!Ē
    Non-Duality, Staying Neutral, and Spiritual Bypassing
    Timeline-Reality Split and Converging Timeline
    Good Guys in the Government? The Battle of STO vs STS
    Checkmate: The Achilles Heel of the Matrix Forces and the Deep State
    Evolutionary Astrology and the Pluto Return of the US
    Conclusion and Resources
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    Default Re: Bernhard Guenther flips on his opinion of Q

    Savannah, can you give a summary of the takeaway? no worries if not.

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    I'll confess I never knew who Bernhard Gunther was, but I'm encouraged by knowing another little light has flicked on.
    ..................................................my first language is TYPO..............................................

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    Savannah, can you give a summary of the takeaway? no worries if not.
    skimming through it he seems to think it's legit, I think its a psyop, I choose Jesus Christ as my personal savior. I guess if I'm wrong I'll get another shot at it.

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    Hi Savannah, I have been on the fence about Q, mostly finding him/her obtuse. While I have not had previous contact with Bernhardís writings, I am impressed with his thoroughness and apparent personal rigor in his evaluation. He clearly believes everyone is responsible for doing their own homework...hard to dispute that.
    Waldo, I donít see any connection between personal faith beliefs and Q....fairly separate to me. Explain? Diane

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    Savannah, can you give a summary of the takeaway? no worries if not.
    Cliff's Notes

    Conclusion:

    "So, is Qanon the real deal or just another Psyop in the history of COINTELPRO PsyOps? As I said throughout the essay, as of now I donít see it as a PsyOp but give it more validity as the ďreal dealĒ. If it turns out to be ďthe mother of all PsyOpsĒ and Q/Trump is ushering us into the absolute matrix prison of totalitarian globalist socialist A.I. technocratic control, well, then, Iíll be willing to admit that I was wrong but something tells me itís not going to be that bleak and dark. Yet, only time will tell. I have faith in and trust the Divine.

    However, I think most of us can agree and see that there is a deeper and greater awakening happening, with or without Q/Trumpóand nothing can stop that from happening. In fact, you canít stop it because it has already started, and you and I and all the Qanons are just along for the ride. How long it will take depends on our willingness to surrender, answer the call, align with Divine Will, as we all learn how to ride these great waves of change into an unknown world that has yet to be seen."

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    Itís a long article but very well put. Thereís even a shout-out to Project Camelotís interview with Bill Wood about Project Looking Glass. I hope Bill reads it and gives us his 2 cents.

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    Itís a long article but very well put. Thereís even a shout-out to Project Camelotís interview with Bill Wood about Project Looking Glass. I hope Bill reads it and gives us his 2 cents.
    Thanks. A brief response here!
    • Bill Wood was a wannabe hoaxer. ("Looking Glass" was real, though.)
    • I largely agree with Bernhard Guenther's initial assessment 3 months ago. Like most people, I just don't have time for riddles, goose chases and guessing games. Some people enjoy that, become intrigued, and get hooked, while others reject it all as wheel-spinning that goes nowhere for them, doesn't help them understand real issues any better, and is of little or no value. I want to access good, concise, referenced information that helps me figure things out in the shortest time possible.
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    • I truly and genuinely appreciate the request for my feedback on this piece, but I simply don't have time to read a 20,000 word article. (I balked and copied it to MS Word to see how long it was.) That'd need an hour of focused time. (At least with an hour-long video, I can play it at 1.25x the speed, and do other things at the same time.)

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    Quote Posted by Jad (here)
    Itís a long article but very well put. Thereís even a shout-out to Project Camelotís interview with Bill Wood about Project Looking Glass. I hope Bill reads it and gives us his 2 cents.
    Thanks. A brief response here!
    • Bill Wood was a wannabe hoaxer. ("Looking Glass" was real, though.)
    • I largely agree with Bernhard Guenther's initial assessment 3 months ago. Like most people, I just don't have time for riddles, goose chases and guessing games. Some people enjoy that, become intrigued, and get hooked, while others reject it all as wheel-spinning that goes nowhere for them, doesn't help them understand real issues any better, and is of little or no value. I want to access good, concise, referenced information that helps me figure things out in the shortest time possible.
    • I don't trust "The Plan" (even if I knew what it was!), and right now the US is rapidly sinking into a morass of leaderless chaos. I'd vote for Trump if I were a US citizen, but right now his chances of re-election are slipping every day. He's just not in control of what's happening in America now, at all. To all Americans reading this: you're in real danger of losing your country.
    • I truly and genuinely appreciate the request for my feedback on this piece, but I simply don't have time to read a 20,000 word article. (I balked and copied it to MS Word to see how long it was.) That'd need an hour of focused time. (At least with an hour-long video, I can play it at 1.25x the speed, and do other things at the same time.)
    If you don't have time to read it or time to follow Q you that is a personal choice, however you should then not make a judgement about material you do not understand. Bernhard's article was long because this is a very complex time in our evolution of consciousness. Bullet point black and white thinking will lead to gross misinterpretations, simplification and what he initially found in himself, validating his own miss-truth.

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    I've finally completed the article. Contrary to what I expected going in, this article is NOT meant to provide any evidence supporting this man's change of opinion regarding Q. The author focuses largely on his own cognitive dissonance, which initially resulted in him dismissing Q without doing any research into it. The primary 'push' of the article is encouraging the reader to be aware of their own cognitive dissonance, using his change of opinion regarding Q as a case study of sorts. In addition to reviewing cognitive dissonance on an individual basis, the article also covers its impact on a more universal level, somewhat tying it into the Q phrase 'from darkness to light'. The author believes that a great change for the better is inevitable, and lays out how he sees Q as being a part of this by encouraging individuals to question everything, and to share their findings to assist others in awakening to 'truth'.

    This is primarily a self-introspective article. I enjoyed it very much, but if anyone is hoping for an evidence based explanation of why Q is legit, this is not it. On the contrary, its purpose is to encourage readers to do their own investigation, and to explain why it's important to do that rather than to accept the authors opinion on the matter.
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    Quote Posted by ClearWater (here)
    I've finally completed the article. Contrary to what I expected going in, this article is NOT meant to provide any evidence supporting this man's change of opinion regarding Q. .
    Your correct, he does not provide a classified document explicitly stating Q is real. He does however provide his reasoning and that of others who have come to the same conclusion. If your expectation was for more specifics on its realty that can be found on the Q thread and what is Q tread. David Hayes' book Calm Before The storm, also explain in basic simple way what is Q and to understand the information.If one Accepts that Q is a means of providing information outside the controlled mainstream media, then it wont be raveled as coming from the government until we have a free press again, because at that time we wont need it.

    https://www.amazon.com/Calm-before-S.../dp/B0849KFDRP

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    Quote Posted by ClearWater (here)
    I've finally completed the article. Contrary to what I expected going in, this article is NOT meant to provide any evidence supporting this man's change of opinion regarding Q. .
    Your correct, he does not provide a classified document explicitly stating Q is real. He does however provide his reasoning and that of others who have come to the same conclusion. If your expectation was for more specifics on its realty that can be found on the Q thread and what is Q tread. David Hayes' book Calm Before The storm, also explain in basic simple way what is Q and to understand the information.If one Accepts that Q is a means of providing information outside the controlled mainstream media, then it wont be raveled as coming from the government until we have a free press again, because at that time we wont need it.

    https://www.amazon.com/Calm-before-S.../dp/B0849KFDRP
    Yes, I understand Savannah. I've been following the Q posts since November of 2017, and they are actually what brought me back to this forum after being away for many years.

    I simply made an incorrect assumption of what the article was about, and felt it might be good to explain it's content in more detail in case others are making the same wrong assumption that I had.

    Thank you for sharing the link. I enjoyed reading it.
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    Quote Posted by Jad (here)
    Itís a long article but very well put. Thereís even a shout-out to Project Camelotís interview with Bill Wood about Project Looking Glass. I hope Bill reads it and gives us his 2 cents.
    Thanks. A brief response here!
    • Bill Wood was a wannabe hoaxer. ("Looking Glass" was real, though.)
    • I largely agree with Bernhard Guenther's initial assessment 3 months ago. Like most people, I just don't have time for riddles, goose chases and guessing games. Some people enjoy that, become intrigued, and get hooked, while others reject it all as wheel-spinning that goes nowhere for them, doesn't help them understand real issues any better, and is of little or no value. I want to access good, concise, referenced information that helps me figure things out in the shortest time possible.
    • I don't trust "The Plan" (even if I knew what it was!), and right now the US is rapidly sinking into a morass of leaderless chaos. I'd vote for Trump if I were a US citizen, but right now his chances of re-election are slipping every day. He's just not in control of what's happening in America now, at all. To all Americans reading this: you're in real danger of losing your country.
    • I truly and genuinely appreciate the request for my feedback on this piece, but I simply don't have time to read a 20,000 word article. (I balked and copied it to MS Word to see how long it was.) That'd need an hour of focused time. (At least with an hour-long video, I can play it at 1.25x the speed, and do other things at the same time.)
    Bill if I may ask, what led you to reach the conclusion that Bill Wood was a "wannabe hoaxer"? Did you ever have the opportunity to watch his "goodbye" videos? I have actually sort of asked you this before and you said that "you would disregard anything Bill had to say" but I am not sure I understand why. Thank you so much. If you need to move this somewhere else or send me a PM as to not get off topic please do! Thanks again

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    Quote Posted by wondering (here)
    Hi Savannah, I have been on the fence about Q, mostly finding him/her obtuse. While I have not had previous contact with Bernhardís writings, I am impressed with his thoroughness and apparent personal rigor in his evaluation. He clearly believes everyone is responsible for doing their own homework...hard to dispute that.
    Waldo, I donít see any connection between personal faith beliefs and Q....fairly separate to me. Explain? Diane
    I think some people think Q is going to save them from whatever they fear happening. While I hope that there is a plan to stop globalization into a one world governing body my hope lies in the government promised in scriptures to those who believe the Gospel of Jesus Christ and His coming Kingdom.

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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Quote Posted by Jad (here)
    Itís a long article but very well put. Thereís even a shout-out to Project Camelotís interview with Bill Wood about Project Looking Glass. I hope Bill reads it and gives us his 2 cents.
    Thanks. A brief response here!
    • Bill Wood was a wannabe hoaxer. ("Looking Glass" was real, though.)
    • I largely agree with Bernhard Guenther's initial assessment 3 months ago. Like most people, I just don't have time for riddles, goose chases and guessing games. Some people enjoy that, become intrigued, and get hooked, while others reject it all as wheel-spinning that goes nowhere for them, doesn't help them understand real issues any better, and is of little or no value. I want to access good, concise, referenced information that helps me figure things out in the shortest time possible.
    • I don't trust "The Plan" (even if I knew what it was!), and right now the US is rapidly sinking into a morass of leaderless chaos. I'd vote for Trump if I were a US citizen, but right now his chances of re-election are slipping every day. He's just not in control of what's happening in America now, at all. To all Americans reading this: you're in real danger of losing your country.
    • I truly and genuinely appreciate the request for my feedback on this piece, but I simply don't have time to read a 20,000 word article. (I balked and copied it to MS Word to see how long it was.) That'd need an hour of focused time. (At least with an hour-long video, I can play it at 1.25x the speed, and do other things at the same time.)
    Bill if I may ask, what led you to reach the conclusion that Bill Wood was a "wannabe hoaxer"? Did you ever have the opportunity to watch his "goodbye" videos? I have actually sort of asked you this before and you said that "you would disregard anything Bill had to say" but I am not sure I understand why. Thank you so much. If you need to move this somewhere else or send me a PM as to not get off topic please do! Thanks again
    Thanks for the question! There's a detailed thread all about him:
    See also this article, in which Don Shipley, himself a certified Navy Seal, showed that Bill Wood (Brockbrader) had lied about his Seal claims.
    And on top of all this, somewhere in my inbox (but I've not yet found it!) I did receive quite a nasty threatening email from him.

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