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    Default Re: [HOAX] True Earth, Nesara/Gesara How it works - explained with Jack Kidd & Charlie Ward

    Thanks Viking
    This will take a bit of study.
    However the whole thing seems to be moving out of the HOAX category
    Too much reality--validity-- history to it.
    That does not mean it can or will be used.
    It would suit TPTB to keep it as a low key joke -- a fairy story.
    Im fascinated by all that is going on -- you could not write a play as good.
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    Default Re: [HOAX] True Earth, Nesara/Gesara How it works - explained with Jack Kidd & Charlie Ward

    Holy sh~~ Viking
    Assuming this to be true, it is monumental.
    This affects the banking system of the World.
    Trump must know about this.
    I just hope that he brings this out into the open where it belongs.
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    Default Re: [HOAX] True Earth, Nesara/Gesara How it works - explained with Jack Kidd & Charlie Ward

    In this post I mean no disrespect to Viking or anyone else. But I feel the need to say this.

    I quit reading Viking’s post when I got to the paragraph discussing the 1991 Executive Order by GHWB. (Which up to that point I was forcing myself to read the post despite it going off track with a wandering history of the supposed legal history of farm foreclosures in the US.) I opened the link to the EO. The EO appears to be legitimate. (Although the link is not to the official source for citing to EOs.) But the EO does not in any way, shape, or form, stand for the proposition stated in the paragraph of the post immediately preceding the link to the EO.

    That EO is a mandate to the US government to, whenever possible, employ alternative dispute resolution (ADR) in all civil litigation in which the USA is a party. The idea is to reduce the time and expense of litigation by streamlining lawsuits and requiring mediations and, if necessary, arbitrations as ADR. It is not intended to, nor does it, provide a basis for compensation to farmers who lost their farms in foreclosure.

    Many years ago I spent a fair amount of time drilling down on NESARA. I found many dead ends. In my opinion, far too often inaccurate information and tenuous or wrong conclusions have always plagued NESARA, and now GESARA too.

    But I do agree with the point or observation made by others on this thread that there is some form of reset in place. I could be wrong but the current and very real monetary, economic and financial predicament we are in, coupled with talk of a reset, is fertile ground for the NESARA advocates to plant the seed again for a renewed launch of this topic.

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    Default Re: [HOAX] True Earth, Nesara/Gesara How it works - explained with Jack Kidd & Charlie Ward

    Thanks Satori
    I would have no interest in Nesara if it was not for the current situation and the pushing of financial reset, vaccines, lockdown, monetary collapse,5G and some of what Trump is saying -- grand words.
    Too open to misunderstanding. (normalisation)--you put your own meaning to a vague statement.
    Fortune tellers do that.
    Onawah post on the link gives a different source for a brand of Nesara --that was a struggle to get through but believable.
    The second video on the link would be enough.

    There are a lot of dots to join and some dead ends but it does seem that the truth is being covered up big time by TPTB and they may have killed to prevent this happening . WHY?
    I wait with interest to see what Trump brings forth.
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    Default Re: [HOAX] True Earth, Nesara/Gesara How it works - explained with Jack Kidd & Charlie Ward

    NESARA- All 16 Parts summarized - TRANSITION TO GREATNESS!

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    Default Re: [HOAX] True Earth, Nesara/Gesara How it works - explained with Jack Kidd & Charlie Ward

    Quote Posted by Satori (here)
    In this post I mean no disrespect to Viking or anyone else. But I feel the need to say this.

    I quit reading Viking’s post when I got to the paragraph discussing the 1991 Executive Order by GHWB. (Which up to that point I was forcing myself to read the post despite it going off track with a wandering history of the supposed legal history of farm foreclosures in the US.) I opened the link to the EO. The EO appears to be legitimate. (Although the link is not to the official source for citing to EOs.) But the EO does not in any way, shape, or form, stand for the proposition stated in the paragraph of the post immediately preceding the link to the EO.

    That EO is a mandate to the US government to, whenever possible, employ alternative dispute resolution (ADR) in all civil litigation in which the USA is a party. The idea is to reduce the time and expense of litigation by streamlining lawsuits and requiring mediations and, if necessary, arbitrations as ADR. It is not intended to, nor does it, provide a basis for compensation to farmers who lost their farms in foreclosure.

    Many years ago I spent a fair amount of time drilling down on NESARA. I found many dead ends. In my opinion, far too often inaccurate information and tenuous or wrong conclusions have always plagued NESARA, and now GESARA too.

    But I do agree with the point or observation made by others on this thread that there is some form of reset in place. I could be wrong but the current and very real monetary, economic and financial predicament we are in, coupled with talk of a reset, is fertile ground for the NESARA advocates to plant the seed again for a renewed launch of this topic.


    I'm bumping this post, which Satori, an attorney with 40 years experience, took quite some time and trouble to write. Some readers of this thread might need to go through it three or more times before they really understand what he's saying. (I'd recommend that!)

    If you don't understand it, maybe you shouldn't be posting here. There's a huge amount of silly noise about all this, and there has been for years.

    Yes, of course there might be a "reset" of some kind (whatever that word may mean). The global financial situation is in a fairly precarious state, which may not be nearly as stable as some may hope or believe.

    But this is NOTHING to do with individual debt forgiveness, cancellation of credit cards and loans, the revaluation of the Iraqi Dinar, or any other such impossibilities. Read the many existing threads on all this, which I took trouble to list in post #26, some of which have been on the forum for over 10 years. (Maybe no-one should be posting here till they've done that homework, either.)

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    Default Re: [HOAX] True Earth, Nesara/Gesara How it works - explained with Jack Kidd & Charlie Ward

    Bill with respect
    People post on threads to get understanding as part of the research perhaps.
    Im not giving an opinion on this as I dont know enough yet.
    Onawah link post is not to be dismissed easily-- it does not mention Nesara though the story is very similar.
    People may have been hoaxed but that does mean all of it is untrue.
    I agree that cancelling debt is as you said.
    "But this is NOTHING to do with individual debt forgiveness, cancellation of credit cards and loans, the revaluation of the Iraqi Dinar, or any other such impossibilities."

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    Default Re: [HOAX] True Earth, Nesara/Gesara How it works - explained with Jack Kidd & Charlie Ward

    HOW IS THIS STILL SECRET?! Military Insider Interview: SPECIAL OPS REVEALED [DS] Hidden Secrets Pt 2

    This talk seems to mirror some of what has come out on this thread -- Ex Presidents being threatened by Seal -- forces to sign documents.
    I dont have a mind for the "small print" at my age so perhaps some on with a legal mind could explore this.

    Im only interested in up to date truth and perhaps just perhaps this video reveals some of it.

    Not fond of adverts in talks, but thats just me.
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    Default Re: [HOAX] True Earth, Nesara/Gesara How it works - explained with Jack Kidd & Charlie Ward

    I would not completely rule out Nesara Gesara yet.
    Coming from various sources on u tube -- it appears that President Trump is up to something inline with some of the Gesara Nesara principals.

    Anything is possible in these crazy times.
    Who could have predicted the whole world going into lockdown overnight --some notable exceptions like Sweden for example.

    It may be happy porn -- I dont know, but something profound has to happen to get the human race out of this current situation.

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    Default Re: [HOAX] True Earth, Nesara/Gesara How it works - explained with Jack Kidd & Charlie Ward

    NESARA (The TRUMP Card)

    A lot of information, obviously its pro Trump -- may be wishful thinking but you never know these days.
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    Default Re: [HOAX] True Earth, Nesara/Gesara How it works - explained with Jack Kidd & Charlie Ward

    OK, I have fullfilled the requirements for posting on this thread

    My initial thoughts after reading this thread for the second time are…

    1. Nesara is not a hoax in the sense it was generated by some A-hole(s) making it up for kicks or to purposefully: mislead, confuse or obfuscate a real truth. I have been aware of this story for several years and note the content is consistent with repeated proclamations made by: Simon Parkes, D. Wilcock, B Fulford and Q.

    Granted, based on the last 6 months, these names alone will cause many to justifiably chuck it all in the circular file... or reflexively move it into the “hoax” section 😊

    After reviewing the entire thread over the last week, I believe there is real smoke coming from this smoldering fire for the following reasons:
    1. The same history has been meticulously documented and repeated from several sources.

    2. Overall the history follows a logical/believable sequence (cloning of the US deed owner excluded )

    3. It does provide an excellent framework for an envisionable, logical and workable, National financial reset.

    4. Most importantly, it provides what is desperately needed right now – HOPE.

    5. It can be used to collectively envision a new, better, more equitable financial system and higher standard of living for all.
    The problem is not in believing the documented evidence, rather, the problem lies in believing that it could ever be implemented.

    My primary reasons for believing that it will not be implemented lie with DJT for the following reasons:
    1. He is heavily backed by the MIC and remains financially committed to Israel.

    2. His recent overall Pro Deep-State position on the Covid hoax ( Conversely, It should be noted that his initial stance was admirable, as he appeared to want to do the right thing, for ex: he was the first to mention HCQ, he did say, "Not everyone is going to want to take the vaccine".. etc.]
    It now appears that Trump is complicit with the Technocratic elites desires for the NWO. He is now advocating all the Covid Bull++++ mandates such as: social distancing, mask wearing, and using the military to expedite administration of the faustian vaccine.

    So GB, here is where I think the hoax lies: Most who study the subject believe there is truth in Nesera’s creation/ existance, but they cannot believe it could ever be implemented. Unfortunately, I'm sleeping at this campsite unless;
    1.The swamp is drained of the ruling Luciferian, human trafficking, pedophileing criminal cabal bastards (CCB).

    2. The 60,000 US Grand jury sealed indictments are opened/revealed and acted upon. (It should be noted – the very fact that they exist, implies that something epically historic was planned and may possibly be carried out.)

    3. Jeffrey Epstein/ G. Maxwell were arrested which means the prosecutors have the evidence. The question is how far down the rabbit hole will they go? Does anyone believe Prince Andrew, Bubba Clinton, or Ellen Degenerate will be wearing orange onezies at Gitmo within the next 2 years? We can only HOPE.
    In regards to HOPE,

    I was recently confronted with posts on a thread that inferred: there is no hope, all is lost, "they" have won, there are no solutions, the CV and its' mandates will be with us forever. One even advocated escapism by forgetting all about it and spending our time in nature. My reaction to this is - WTF!!!.... This is unacceptable, it is a losers mindset, a losers creed, a losers method of handling adversity and one I have no time for!!!! Not one GD second!!!

    We are not going to turn this around by sticking our heads in the sand. The only way to create our future is through continued focus on transcending the current/future ABnormals by becoming the best versions of ourselves, while simultaneously connecting with others in appropriate resistance done in mass, along with focused/intentioned group networking/ prayer/meditation.

    By now, we are all aware of the CCB’s plan for the world. I am here to tell you - that is not how this going to end. We do not have to live in that world... I refuse to acquiesce, I refuse to give in, but most of all I refuse to give up – HOPE!

    There is real HOPE in:
    1. The 60,000 US grand jury sealed indictments which could shift the balance of power away from the current luciferian control.

    2. A new financial system that will soon be replacing the old one. I choose to envision the new system being inherently fair, just, equitable, and geopolitically efficient. Such a financial system, will harbinger harmonious ways of living throughout our global communities while simultaneously manifesting a much higher standard of living for all.

    3. The human spirit no longer allowing itself to be enslaved..

    4. Grace

    5. The Baron Trump books written by Ingersoll Lockwood which talk exotic technologies and the silver city...
    ..So much for quick thoughts ...

    Time for bed

    Blessings Luke
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    Default Re: [HOAX] True Earth, Nesara/Gesara How it works - explained with Jack Kidd & Charlie Ward

    Thanks for taking the time to explore this concept Luke.
    The jury still out on this.
    There does seem some validity in some of this.
    It would be a mistake to throw the baby out with the bath water.
    Hope is of great value even if a little misplaced -- it raises the immune system.
    Time will tell where Trump is going with all this.
    I wish HOAX could be removed from the thread title for the reasons raised by Luke.
    If Hoax it is not a deliberate one as far as I can see -- the belief in it by some is at least positive and we need that just now.
    So many believe the lies told about the virus, those are more worthy of the word Hoax to my mind, and those lies are intentional.

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    Default Re: [HOAX] True Earth, Nesara/Gesara How it works - explained with Jack Kidd & Charlie Ward

    ...Here is an example of why Nesara cannot be implemented unless the swamp is thoroughly drained...

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/n...tch-deposition

    Title: Appeals court rules Hillary Clinton doesn't have to sit for Judicial Watch deposition

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    Default Re: [HOAX] True Earth, Nesara/Gesara How it works - explained with Jack Kidd & Charlie Ward

    NESARA / GESARA VS The Great Reset

    There is a lot of information about NWO and the Great reset in this video
    It does not matter if you think NESARA/GESARA is a hoax -- the information in the video is relevant to where we find ourselves now.
    The Cabal is determined to bring about the Great reset so the more we know about their plan the better.
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    Quote Posted by greybeard (here)
    The Cabal is determined to bring about the Great reset so the more we know about their plan the better.
    Yes, of course. But it's got nothing to do with NESARA, which has been a silly fake news hoax from the beginning.

    This is Santa Claus, Tooth Fairy, Easter Bunny thinking that suddenly, after some kind of global financial reset, we're all going to have our debts forgiven and suddenly be wealthy... money for nothing and chicks for free. That's just not gonna happen.

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    Default Re: [HOAX] True Earth, Nesara/Gesara How it works - explained with Jack Kidd & Charlie Ward

    Bill I could not think where else to put the video , Have you watched it?
    If it did not have NESARA/GESARA in the title it would have fitted somewhere else perfectly well
    There is a lot of value in the video.
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    From Bill:
    How about here?
    (Just search for 'reset'
    in thread titles)
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    Quote Posted by greybeard (here)
    Bill I could not think where else to put the video , Have you watched it?
    If it did not have NESARA/GESARA in the title it would have fitted somewhere else perfectly well
    There is a lot of value in the video.
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    From Bill:
    How about here?
    (Just search for 'reset'
    in thread titles)
    Shifted to here
    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...=1#post1373104
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    "The Quantum Financial System (QFS)"

    I have no idea where this belongs but NESARA/GESARA gets one line mention, appendix 16

    I have no understanding of finance whatsoever so can not comment on the subject matter.

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    https://gesara.news/



    GESARA articles
    Supreme Court justice to serve the American people
    Amy Coney Barrett said Saturday that, if confirmed as a United States Supreme Court justice, she would assume the role to serve the American people.
    Judge Amy Coney Barrett: "I love the United States, and I love the United States Constitution."
    Sources:twitter.com/WhiteHouse, www.whitehouse.gov

    Tesla BioHealing Beds
    All living organisms have molecular cells have their own power plants that produce energy throughout its life called a nucleus. Every cell in every living organism holds the energy that it produces. As our bodies age these cells begin to lose their abilities to produce the same amount of power and many will begin to die. But what if you could recharge the power plants of your cells and give them new life to continue powering and repairing your body?

    Sources:www.youtube.com, www.teslabiohealing.com
    GESARA hints in Trumps speech at UN General Assembly
    Remarks by President Trump to the 75th Session of the United Nations General Assembly:
    We will enter a new era of unprecedented prosperity, cooperation, and peace.
    For decades, the same tired voices proposed the same failed solutions, pursuing global ambitions at the expense of their own people. But only when you take care of your own citizens will you find a true basis for cooperation. As President, I have rejected the failed approaches of the past, and I am proudly putting America first, just as you should be putting your countries first.
    I am supremely confident that next year, when we gather in person, we will be in the midst of one of the greatest years in our history - and frankly, hopefully, in the history of the world. Thank you. God bless you all. God bless America. And God bless the United Nations.
    Sources:www.whitehouse.gov, twitter.com/realDonaldTrump

    Prepaid Debit Cards, Digital Dollars To Each American
    Unprecedented Monetary Overhaul: Cleveland Fed president Loretta Mester Hints Fed Is Preparing To Deposit Digital Dollars Directly To Each American.
    If anyone has actually been paying attention. This was announced months ago. Trump debit cards on the way!
    Treasury Secretary Steve Mnuchin shows the new prepaid debit card that will be sent to Americans receiving coronavirus relief.
    Sources:www.youtube.com, www.zerohedge.com

    The end of monarchy
    Queen Elizabeth II has been told that the writing is on the wall for the monarchy and that all members of the Royal Family should renounce their titles.
    Barbados plans to remove the Queen as head of state without a referendum.
    Canada could follow Barbados in ditching the Queen as their head of state and become a republic.
    Sources:www.express.co.uk, www.express.co.uk

    Global currency debasement
    Economy hits debt saturation point. Global economy has no capacity to carry any more debt - Max Keiser.
    The new higher levels of debt that many countries are now moving towards are going to be sustainable without imposing significant costs on growth as well as equity within their societies.
    Every dollar that these central banks print will go directly into consumer price index inflation - and you will see it at the cash register immediately, and that is going to incredible social unrest.
    Global debt to GDP is now at all-time high in Q1. Overall debt for the non financial-sector now worth 252% of global GDP.
    Get ready for extreme global currency debasement.
    Sources:twitter.com/GoldTelegraph, cointelegraph.com

    The FEDs independence Days Are Numbered
    Sometime back in March, the Federal Reserve began quarantining cash bills arriving from Asia. The move was meant to protect Americans from the coronavirus, but it was not entirely necessary. Cash usage was already at an all-time low.
    The Fed is going to buy stocks. I do not know precisely when , but it will happen, and probably soon. It does not want to buy stocks but knows it is too dangerous to rule out. Since financial markets are like teenagers - continually testing boundaries - expect the Fed to keep getting pressed on this issue.
    Sources:www.forbes.com, www.barrons.com

    Gold operates as money without states or bankers
    Gold does not need the state or its bankers to operate as money, because individuals choose it as money on the market century after century. The solidi bear the names & faces of the 5 different emperors who issued them, Honorius was the last Roman emperor to rule Britain.
    Everything in life eventually goes to zero.
    Gold is one of the only elements in the universe that never dies.
    Gold is universally recognized and adorned.
    Gold is legacy wealth. Nothing else even competes.
    Be kind to all life, including your own, no matter what!!

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    Default Re: [HOAX] True Earth, Nesara/Gesara How it works - explained with Jack Kidd & Charlie Ward

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    But it's got nothing to do with NESARA, which has been a silly fake news hoax from the beginning.

    This is Santa Claus, Tooth Fairy, Easter Bunny
    A good analogy, except that
    • those entities sometimes "leave" actual evidence to validate their existences (e.g. presents under trees, money under pillows, baskets of colorful eggs.)

    • most individuals who believe in Santa, et. al. eventually develop critical thinking skills, learn how to understand false narratives and advance to a higher intelligence level not based on wishful thinking.

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