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    Quote Posted by Orobo (here)
    But, as a little side note here. There is a very good clairvoyant/healer here in the country i live...remarkable and very humble man. He saw that Trump would be killed.

    Love, O.
    That could happen of course, Trump is a huge stone in their path but this man is playing a high hand saying that, nobody know the day of someones death, unless it is planned to happen.
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    All of this hinges on the testimony of one person though, and if youíre wrong about that, then youíre wrong about what follows.

    My impression is completely different. The US is one of the major causes of destabilisation in the world. They have interfered in other governments at every level, overthrowing governments they donít like and causing wars to suit their own ends. They interfered with my own government here in Australia. They were instrumental in the sacking of Gough Whitlam, a Prime Minister who brought in free healthcare, free education including university education, no fault divorce, abolished the death penalty, stamped out military conscription, instituted legal aid, questioned CIA occupation in Australia and so on. There is also evidence they interfered in the election following Whitlams sacking helped along by Murdochís press.

    The majority of the western world is social democrat, a position that is considered far left by many in the US.

    Iím not a Hilary fan, but as far as I can tell, she represents the status quo, as did many of the Republicans who stood against Trump in the lead up to 2016. There would be no benefit to a nuclear war on this planet, I donít feel that this is the end point of the elites. It makes no sense from a logistic perspective.

    It was the competition between Hilary and Bernie that was important here, not Trump. The people were ready for change, they were crying for change, and the Dems ruined it all by selecting Hilary. Bernie would have won over Trump in a heartbeat. Trump didnít get in because people liked him, he got in because people didnít like Hilary and felt left down after the Obama years which promised so much but delivered so little.

    Bernie was the easy path. A nice gentle path to change. Free healthcare, free education, legalised weed, whatís not to like? A fairer redistribution of resources and improved opportunities for everyone.

    Trump is his antithesis. Hate, division, racism, he tapped into the worst of Americans.

    Biden isnít a placeholder. Heís the insurance to make sure Trump got in again. Except then coronavirus happened which flipped everything on its head, so youíre right about that. Iím almost entirely sure Trump will get in again, I just have trouble seeing how given the current reaction to him during this crisis. But hereís the thing, as I said before, Trump is the antithesis. Heís what you react against. That the media react against him is a good thing and shows that things are changing. Rallying against Trump is what brings people together.

    Thereís something you old truthers are missing, and youíll probably castigate me for this but, just stop for a minute, let your triggered juice settle, and open yourself up to the possibility instead.

    What if, everything you had been hoping for for years was actually already happening? What if true freedom means freedom for everyone not just old white blokes? What if it means gay people are free to be gay, to celebrate their relationships and express their affection in public, to get married as everyone else does? What if it means that women can be free to work or not work and raise children without having this affect her career or what she earns or whatever because she took a year off in a 30 year career? Or it means that women can walk the streets freely without being scared theyíll get raped or drugged or whatever? Or it means that people can express their gender however they want without being locked into preconceived ides of what you think it should be? Or it means that people of every colour and every class can have the same opportunities as everyone else to receive healthcare, a good education, to have a safe and settled home life, to get ahead and make something of themselves?

    What if we collectively realised that the game is rigged, that the very very few own most of the wealth on the planet because of things that happened hundreds and sometimes thousands of years ago. That whilst the likes of a Bezos or a Zuckerberg or a Gates emerges, it doesnít mean that most of us will, and the fact that people like this can amass such fortunes means that there is something very wrong with the way that we value people and the work that they do.

    What if we all recognised that the comfort of our lives hinges upon the virtual slavery of others?

    And sure, itís annoying when those darn kids refer to themselves as ze, or that trans woman insists Iíve offended her because I said women have children, or that black person complained about having it hard when they grew up when I grew up dirt poor too and had to work super hard for everything Iíve ever gotten in life.

    What if we could get over our petty squabbles and could realise that the world has never been more open, more accepting, more tolerant, more loving. Political correctness and SJWs arenít energy attacks, theyíre triggering your dysfunctional attitudes to come to the light. The millennials were raised by the baby boomers. You taught them about free love and acceptance and tolerance. You taught them to smash the system. And when they start doing that, you complain.

    Trump isnít here to save you. Heís here to represent everything bad and hateful and hurtful about Americans. He is the worst of you personified. And the fact that he needs a conspiracy as that developed by Q Anon to amass and retain power goes to show how little power he actually has.

    The urgency isnít coming from the dark side, the elite, they won 60 years ago when they smashed communism and made you believe it was a bad and evil thing. Theyíve been winning for thousands of years. The urgency is from us. Coronavirus provided us a perfect opportunity to bring it all down. We could all have just stayed home, citing our health and demand the system change, instead, we fought the controllers to go back to work for them, and we fought each other on the internet, dividing ourselves along the classic left right dichotomy turning even a health crisis into a partisan issue.

    Truthers do more to contribute to the culture of fear than the elite do. We all know the elite suck and want us to work for them and buy their **** so they can get and stay rich. But the truthers tell us theyíre satanic overlords who eat and abuse children. Or their reptilians or aliens. That theyíre going to inject us with mind controlling microchips or nano technology or change our DNA. Theyíre going to reduce our population by killing us with vaccines or make us infertile. Or whatever.

    You want to change the world? Start thinking about what youíre putting out into it.

    All we have to do as a collective is agree that rich people generally suck, that we all deserve a fairer slice of the pie, that some of us are born by virtue of chance with attributes that will make their success in life harder or easier and we should find reasonable ways to address that inequity because every life has value, every life has worth, everyone has something to give, and everyone deserves to live a life as free from harm as possible with the greatest amount of freedom to do and be whatever they want.

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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    I'm aware this all sounds dramatic. But if we don't win this one, we may be in very major trouble. My guess is that you, reading this now, can sense this fairly clearly, and I may possibly be helping to clarify and focus some of those thoughts and feelings.

    The first major attempt to take back the planet was 2000 years ago. The second was in the 60s and early 70s. The third is now. But there won't be a fourth.
    I can sense clearly that the whole narrative is based on fear.

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    Quote Posted by Justjane (here)
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    The urgency isnít coming from the dark side, the elite, they won 60 years ago when they smashed communism and made you believe it was a bad and evil thing. Theyíve been winning for thousands of years. The urgency is from us. Coronavirus provided us a perfect opportunity to bring it all down. We could all have just stayed home, citing our health and demand the system change, instead, we fought the controllers to go back to work for them, and we fought each other on the internet, dividing ourselves along the classic left right dichotomy turning even a health crisis into a partisan issue.
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    ... the greatest amount of freedom to do and be whatever they want.
    Communism is a tried and tested system. The results have been in for a long time, and they do not look good for communism. It's not known for offering the greatest amount of freedom (looking at China). There are enough examples of a full blown communist revolution from within 100 years to see how it turns out.

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    Great stuff, thank you to everyone.

    Bill, I don't think this is off subject but it might be. Kerry talks about the Looking Glass technology which TeamTrump has and uses regularly. Do you have thoughts on this you would share?

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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    The "darker" humans at loose here are all influenced (at least!) by those.
    Are they even human?

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    Great stuff, thank you to everyone.

    Bill, I don't think this is off subject but it might be. Kerry talks about the Looking Glass technology which TeamTrump has and uses regularly. Do you have thoughts on this you would share?
    Well, briefly! I'm convinced that the Looking Glass technology is real. But I very much doubt that "TeamTrump" has access to it, is using it, or knows anything about it.

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    Many thanks for this! It needs sharing far & wide as many many people are coming to the cusp of grasping what is going on to the extent that they will be able to integrate this.

    It has been very hard for those who sense timelines enough to feel strongly that a Trump victory was key in displacing a catastrophic potential. I remember at the time feeling that a Hillary victory would be rapidly followed by a nuclear exchange of some type. She promised to enforce a no-fly zone in Syria.

    It is so hard for those people who sensed this to advocate, without being incorrectly assumed to be taking a politically partisan position. I remember saying to friends that 'I support Trump despite disagreeing with his policies' and 'the warmongering issue is more important than racism' , yes there was opprobium.

    We are there again now. Its probably too late for the Syria situation to facilitate the nuclear exchange they seek. So the India/Pakistan confrontation may be the flash point. Note it is very likely that Pakistan and China have many more warheads than published figures suggest.

    There is as process going on where the dark influence is being rooted out, we are further down the road, many are saying we have won or we are in the mopping up phase. The danger is really that the cornered entity is at its most deadly and the tools to drag this reality into hell are still available to them - there is still all to play for. The warmongering timeline is well represented in the US government - most Repubs and almost all Dems. This victory therefore is contingent on the political and physical survival of THAT ONE MAN, most likely.

    The chaos in the USA is very effectively undermining Trumps position, as they are successfully portraying him as a failure on the pandemic and on systemic racism. Tucker C says that Trump should naturally be good on these type of things - obviously not.

    In the case of dealing with a pandemic, what can be presented well for public consumption, is an integrated socialistic, state driven health response, and this is anathema to Trump & the USA health system despite the huge resources and strong response.

    In the case of dealing with racial tension & confrontation, again Trump is vulnerable, because he is conservative and pro-police. You cannot craft a conciliatory narrative easily from that position although no doubt he is as aware of the problem as anybody and wants to fix it.

    So these two issues, and their effect on the economy, are really disastrous for Trumps prospects, and most likely engineered to bring him down.

    If Trump avoids big wars this year, we can fight for him on the basis that he has successfully resisted elite efforts to start hot wars in various places. I hope that people see the war issue as CENTRAL to this, it does seem to shut up many detractors.

    I do not believe that there are forces managing the timeline and that a decision has been made out there in the ethers , that a good timeline on earth is to be created. I believe that there are forces that could do this, but that their modus operandi is to see if we can hold on to a survival timeline, can we humans continue to root out evil & corruption? Even if we can agree that is important, can we realise collectively that a corrupt rogue like Trump is the key to manifesting that?
    we have subcontracted the business of healing people to Companies who profit from sickness.

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    Quote Posted by spade (here)
    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    The "darker" humans at loose here are all influenced (at least!) by those.
    Are they even human?
    Physically 100% human but with astral bodies that are reptilian. Or so I was told by a woman who suddenly, temporarily, developed the ability to see that (before David Icke was known).

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    It has been very hard for those who sense timelines enough to feel strongly that a Trump victory was key in displacing a catastrophic potential. I remember at the time feeling that a Hillary victory would be rapidly followed by a nuclear exchange of some type.
    I'm pretty sure it was Courtney Brown who said, based on his team of remote viewers, that a Hillary presidency would have us in WW3 by spring.

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    Trump isnít here to save you. Heís here to represent everything bad and hateful and hurtful about Americans. He is the worst of you personified.
    This is a terrible thing to say about a person of which millions of people are supportive of. Say what you feel you must, but that very statement alone reflects your blind hatred of that man.

    I don't support neither do I condemn the guy... he is what he is in public, but have you ever met him in person? I hear nice things all the time.

    that being said.

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    All of this hinges on the testimony of one person though, and if youíre wrong about that, then youíre wrong about what follows.
    My impression is completely different. The US is one of the major causes of destabilisation in the world. They have interfered in other governments at every level, overthrowing governments they donít like and causing wars to suit their own ends. They interfered with my own government here in Australia. They were instrumental in the sacking of Gough Whitlam, a Prime Minister who brought in free healthcare, free education including university education, no fault divorce, abolished the death penalty, stamped out military conscription, instituted legal aid, questioned CIA occupation in Australia and so on. There is also evidence they interfered in the election following Whitlams sacking helped along by Murdochís press.
    It is impossible to get accurate psychic impressions when heavily opinionated on a subject.

    Getting back on-topic (timelines), the 2016 US election was clearly a timeline fork. As was the 2000 Gore/Bush election that went to the Supreme Court.
    I do find it ironic that so many people hate Trump, but not enough to have chosen the President Hillary timeline :-)

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    When I read Kryztian's post below, I felt it was quite important. As Kyztian points out, it could sound like what is currenly happenning, only now we can see alot more influences as well at play.

    Even though this thread isn't focused on the dark unseen influnces that likely play a large part in the manipulation of the perceptions of events taking place, it may be important generally to know what can be done about it.

    The post brings up issues of fear feeding lower dimentional entities, how vaccines may be used to control spiriual development and how important it may be to hold an energetic field without fear, and how this is not new.

    Do you think Bill, or any member, that all we need to do is hold that energetic field and enough pople will wake up and demand change? It seems at present part of the pre-planned reset is taking that into account and providing solutions that sound good on the surface. It makes the public feel they are in control of the "solution" . I'm hearing alot of "seeds" being planted in MSM already.

    I agree we can do something and many of us are. I would like to see the reality truelly be "for the people BY the people".










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    Quote Posted by Justjane (here)
    Trump isnít here to save you. Heís here to represent everything bad and hateful and hurtful about Americans. He is the worst of you personified.
    This is a terrible thing to say about a person of which millions of people are supportive of. Say what you feel you must, but that very statement alone reflects your blind hatred of that man.

    I don't support neither do I condemn the guy... he is what he is in public, but have you ever met him in person? I hear nice things all the time.

    that being said.

    ....And someone deleted my post, of which I carefully took a lot of time to craft... next time, please edit it or flag it, but don't simply delete it. If any of you feel I have not contributed anything to this forum, I can simply take my departure, as I have no need to continue my presence here if I'm not welcomed.
    Hi spade

    It was felt that that post had been provocative in its nature, somewhat off-topic and not in the spirit of the thread which simply asks two questions: what's happening. and why? and invites everyone to address those with their own ideas many of which are very likely to overlap.

    Of course the post deletion wasn't aimed at you personally.

    One of our missions here is to try between us to find some solutions that may work for the benefit of all. We need to train our sights not on each other but on the protagonists behind the chaos in which we find ourselves at the moment.

    ďIf a man does not keep pace with [fall into line with] his companions, perhaps it is because he hears a different drummer. Let him step to the music which he hears, however measured or far away.Ē - Thoreau

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    Quote Posted by Harmony (here)

    Do you think Bill, or any member, that all we needd to do is hold that energetic field and enough pople will wake up and demand change?
    It is something like that. Usually if people "notice" something, it isn't going to make them agree with every historical and political point I could make, but might be more interested in what is making a "difference" in that person.

    In my case, it is more like the opposite of politics, which I would reduce to a mere management office to handle a few things efficiently, including restraining private industry from monopolies, pollution, and exploitation of labor. If done effectively, there can't possibly be a "platform" controlling education and medicine and so forth, or, providing what Bill has described as "a choice of opinions".

    I am cutting the whole thing away because I am not moving to some new phase where this gang decides the mental and physical factors. Starve it of attention.

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    Well, briefly! I'm convinced that the Looking Glass technology is real. But I very much doubt that "TeamTrump" has access to it, is using it, or knows anything about it.
    Agree with you Bill.
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    Quote Posted by Tintin (here)
    It was felt that that post had been provocative in its nature
    And JustJane's lumping of Americans with "He is the worst of you personified" isn't? Do I sense some bias here?

    Look, I come here to PA to escape from all the MSM's 24/7 rhetoric / propaganda about Orange Man Bad this Orange Man Bad that. I'm so sick of it. How much more can the entire planet attack that man? He's just a man! But it's non-stop incessant dripping how incompetent, how aloof, how racist (really? after all the rappers have endorsed the guy for decades on end?). I don't talk about him, I never post about him. But upon arriving here to escape the tiresome complaints about a man, and what do I find? More attacks on this man, and not only that - lumping together everyone that supports him as the worst people on the face of the planet. Really??!! Seriously? isn't that a tactic of the left? Identity politics, no?

    I'll call out BS when I see it.

    Whatever the case. The target is not and should not be Orange Man, he is harmless.

    The targets should be the SR Abusers, cannibals, child-eating, adrenochrome drinking, pedophiles who are truly the using dark forces and occult magic for power to stay in power as owners of corporations in the technocracy that runs the planet, buying off heads of state. That is why what's happening right now is happening. They are TRYING their best to shift humanity to become the hive mind that they seek to carry out, enacting Agenda 21 along with population reduction as we bicker over Orange Man Bad.

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    I love your energy spade. In a down and dirty scuffle on the street I'd want you right there next to me all the way.


    This thread opened with a cracking good post, that may have slightly over done the spinoff factors, like Dan Burish and his time lines. But really, if it was my opening post, I'd be disappointed with how far downhill this thread went from there.


    Maybe we should all stop right here and go back and read Bill's opening post with a fresh mind, and start again.
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    I love your energy spade. In a down and dirty scuffle on the street I'd want you right there next to me all the way.


    This thread opened with a cracking good post, that may have slightly over done the spinoff factors, like Dan Burish and his time lines. But really, if it was my opening post, I'd be disappointed with how far downhill this thread went from there.


    Maybe we should all stop right here and go back and read Bill's opening post with a fresh mind, and start again.
    Well we have two key months. That being September and November which were highlighted in the pastors vision (with November being highly significant and potentially catastrophic).

    September is a trial hearing for the George Floyd case and November is the USA presidential election. These are the only correlations I can think of at the moment.

    As Bill says, the timeline has shifted (I felt a big shift at Brexit and another at the Trump election...shifts for the better!)

    Like Han Solo says in starwars; I've got a bad feeling about this. I think a play on Trump is the most likely scenario.

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    I'm actually going to side with spade here to a limited extent. I empathise with the way he feels about the blind unthinking Trump-bashing we hear and see today, which is mainly a big nothing-burger and a big distraction.

    Anyone that's recently tried to post contrarian opinions on these kinds of topics over at the Guardian will know exactly what I mean. This censorship is very real.

    I actually do not think spade has strayed too far off-topic - the bit about Trump being elected in 2016 and not Hilary Clinton is certainly relevant to the timeline being discussed.

    Disagreement is necessary and healthy, as it is in science. It is, in a sense, the "second opinion" we will often seek in a medical situation, and it's the very thing denied to us by politicians, medical bureaucrats and mainstream media.

    But to go back to one of Bill's original points - "One first major step is to understand the situation. I mean, really clearly." - this absolutely nails it. My definition would be to flip / invert this and say that to really understand any situation we need the ability to detect deception in all aspects of our lives.

    When media is deceptive, it is not so much that the "media" itself was deceptive, but someone, a person, made the decision to deceive the public, and whether this decision was spread, or mandated, it still is a "human" issue; media itself cannot deceive, people can.

    When media deceives, it is often a money trail that can be found with varying amounts of effort. Do not separate political or large scale deception from a single-person deception, even though the scopes are vastly different. Behind each is a person with vocabulary employed with the intention of deception. For example, President Obama, in the context of the Baltimore riots, said Republicans had "blocked" investments, which now blamed, not violent thugs, but Republicans, for the riot. Obama has portrayed the police in a negative light for years. It was, however, likely less inflammatory for him to blame politicians instead of police.

    When a far-left socialist government in Germany in the 1930's, said that Jewish blood was different from German blood, microscope be damned why/how was it that so many people came to believe such obvious absurdity?

    I think the answer to this question would sum up "What's happening right now, and why".

    It's because when an absurdity (be it BLM, the war on cops, destruction of relics - any one!) is mandated under threat, the absurdity is only heightened. The threat can take on many forms, but all will essentially play on man's three basic fears: fear of death/injury, fear of ridicule/humiliation, fear of poverty/unemployment.
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