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    Default Re: Do we have a Spirit? Do we have a Soul? And where's the proof?

    Quote Posted by meeradas (here)
    This must be included here,

    just for the fun of "boring East Sun to death" (of course, not to be taken literally),
    because it's completely "proof-less"; and for all who do not know it, yet (it's a gem):



    If you want to "know what i know", go here and listen close
    Yes--"PROOF-LESS"


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    We all are...........together.................

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    Default Re: Do we have a Spirit? Do we have a Soul? And where's the proof?

    Thank you Wind.

    Incredibly interesting. Food for thought, much thought.
    I've read a lot of books on this over the years and mostly forgot
    what they said. You can read too much and need to take time
    out to contemplate on what you learned, maybe for years.

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    Default Re: Do we have a Spirit? Do we have a Soul? And where's the proof?

    Michael Newton in A Journey of Souls suggests that one soul can inhabit two different people living in different parts of the world simultaneously, although it’s not common.

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    Default Re: Do we have a Spirit? Do we have a Soul? And where's the proof?

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    Michael Newton in A Journey of Souls suggests that one soul can inhabit two different people living in different parts of the world simultaneously, although it’s not common.
    He seems to be very proficient in his analysis. I wish I could be regressed by him.
    Is he still around to be contacted? If anyone knows please let me know.
    I would really appreciate it.

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    Default Re: Do we have a Spirit? Do we have a Soul? And where's the proof?

    Quote Posted by East Sun (here)
    He seems to be very proficient in his analysis. I wish I could be regressed by him.
    Is he still around to be contacted? If anyone knows please let me know.
    Unfortunately he journeyed back to the spirit world in 2016. He has trained plenty of people though.
    "When you've seen beyond yourself, then you may find, peace of mind is waiting there." ~ George Harrison

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    Default Re: Do we have a Spirit? Do we have a Soul? And where's the proof?

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    Quote Posted by Mare (here)
    Michael Newton in A Journey of Souls suggests that one soul can inhabit two different people living in different parts of the world simultaneously, although it’s not common.
    He seems to be very proficient in his analysis. I wish I could be regressed by him.
    Is he still around to be contacted? If anyone knows please let me know.
    I would really appreciate it.

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    Congrats for an open door!

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    Default Re: Do we have a Spirit? Do we have a Soul? And where's the proof?

    Sometimes, proof can be found in the stories of others.

    "When the power of love overcomes the love of power the world will know peace."
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    Default Re: Do we have a Spirit? Do we have a Soul? And where's the proof?

    Maybe it's a case of, Ask and you shall receive. Maybe I was
    asking in my post. Well, I'm always asking for to remember dreams,
    and seldom do remember them.


    I repeatedly do a mantra of my own
    asking to know, know what you may ask, just to know ? truth? or
    whatever I should know.

    That's followed by, I want to help, on and on till I fall asleep.

    My door is open, maybe why I look out at the world with awe.

    ES

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    Default Re: Do we have a Spirit? Do we have a Soul? And where's the proof?

    I found this movie very interesting, the message is very clear and loud. Maybe there is a better thread to share it, but I think it fits here as well.



    Quote Posted by Mare (here)
    Michael Newton in A Journey of Souls suggests that one soul can inhabit two different people living in different parts of the world simultaneously, although it’s not common.
    quantum physics?
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    Default Re: Do we have a Spirit? Do we have a Soul? And where's the proof?

    In terms of personal experience, I'll say that my wife's relatives who have passed on show up quite often, and have even tried to communicate with us. Her father has a warmer, more distinct presence, and the messages I've perceived from him have been clearer. If I had to guess, I would say it was because he had attained greater self-awareness and actualization while alive.

    Also, in the Taoist Neigong lineage I practice, there is a direct experience (more kinesthetic than visual for me) of connecting to an expanded sense of self and other lives. However, with it also comes an experience of non-linear time. When you experience that, questions of afterlife, reincarnation and even regular memory, all relate more to the linear perspective, and seem less relevant. For that reason, I don't worry as much about what will happen to me after death as I once might have.

    In terms of outside experience, I find the evidence from NDEs and studies from spiritualism over the past century fairly conclusive. There are stories as well from both my teacher and other spiritual lineages of teachers who passed on being able to manifest with more clarity and presence than the average human spirit.

    However, both earthbound spirits and "ascended" teachers do eventually seem to fade away, so the final destination of linear time personality is still uncertain. I would say that we return to the expanded non-linear self, and that the experiences relayed by those on the other side are partially born from the process they go through of integrating the linear with the non-linear, the finite with the eternal.

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    Default Re: Do we have a Spirit? Do we have a Soul? And where's the proof?

    Quote Do we have a Spirit?

    In a metaphysical sense, depends on who you ask.

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    Default Re: Do we have a Spirit? Do we have a Soul? And where's the proof?

    And all this to be just human.

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    Default Re: Do we have a Spirit? Do we have a Soul? And where's the proof?

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    Default Re: Do we have a Spirit? Do we have a Soul? And where's the proof?

    I've just discovered the work of Dr. Michael Newton about what happens in between lives, and am intrigued.
    I'm listening to the audiobook of Journey of Souls here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9YJiYEiGg3c
    Can anyone tell me if any of the subjects of this regression technique referred to "the False Light", or ETs or other entities who attempted to misguide or misdirect them on their journey between lives?

    As to the original questions of this thread--I don't know exactly what the difference is between spirit and soul if there is one, but I will just say I have no doubt about the existence of the soul (as it were) and in reincarnation, and have met members of my soul group in this life whom I know I have known in past lives.
    The Michael Teachings have always made a lot of sense to me: https://www.michaelteachings.com/
    I had an amazing reading once with a medium who was able, with no input from me, to connect with the souls of people I had known in this life who had passed and who had messages for me which made perfect sense.
    I had a NDE after a very traumatic injury, but didn't have the tunnel to the bright white light experience.
    Rather, I was in a very dark and terrifying place for a short time, though it seemed like an eternity to me, until two spiritual friends arrived at the ER and pulled me back into my body.
    I think this probably happens more to people who have nearly died suddenly in pain and trauma, whereas those who make a more natural, gradual transition towards death and back have a more positive experience.
    And those who die in trauma are more likely to linger as ghosts, apparently, as the shock of trauma fractures their energy bodies.

    Don Juan Matus, Carlos Castaneda's mentor, spoke of souls who incarnate into 2 separate bodies at the same time, and said that if they should meet, the consequences would be disastrous.
    At least, that is what I think he was referring to when he referred to what he termed "the Double".

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    Hello everyone,

    I can’t provide any proof for the OP, but I’ve recently finished reading Journey of Souls: Case Studies of Life Between Lives by Michael Newton and I can’t recommend it highly enough. A must-read for anyone interested in this fascinating subject.

    The book itself was thrust into my hands by chance as I walked away from a job I’d worked at for many years. A job that had become an Albatross around my neck.

    I’d decided for some time that I needed a change and after much careful consideration the stars aligned and I made my shock move. Unfortunately, at the worst time in human history, slap-bang into a world in lockdown. The work that I had so painstakingly lined up suddenly dried up. Then followed two months of unemployment.That’s a lot of time for hand-wringing and wondering ‘why me?’.

    The funny thing is though, throughout the whole experience I felt nothing but sublime positivity against all the odds. A resolute certainty that everything is for a reason, and everything will be ok in the end.

    Journey of Souls is a record of 29 carefully selected cases of people who recall their experiences as souls between their physical deaths during hypnotherapy sessions with Dr Newton, founder of The Newton Institute of Life between Lives hypnotherapy.

    Through their extraordinary stories we learn not only what we experience when we die and what we experience during the processes of birth, but also how we experience life outside the physical body in between incarnations. This is the place where the real you exists. It confirmed much of what I already thought but left me with so much more to wonder at. Souls trying to describe what they think The Creator is are equally as fascinating but no spoilers here!

    I came to appreciate the roles of spirit guides, why we are assigned to soul groups (a group we return to again and again after each incarnation) and I also gained an insight into why we choose the body and life we now find ourselves in, and why mandatory amnesia at birth is essential.

    The earth by contrast is an action planet, a rowdy dynamic playhouse. We parachute in, adapt to our roles as best we can and try to stick to the script! I could not stop thinking of the lines from Shakespeare’s comedy ‘As You Like It’.

    “All the world’s a stage,
    And all the men and women merely players;
    They have their exits and their entrances;
    And one man in his time plays many parts ... “

    Even the bodies we choose have agendas of their own. Our Neanderthal brains lusty, territorial and wired for occasional violence(in thought if not in deed). Ancestral traits in our DNA only add to the trials of life. We get kudos from other souls who have never been earth-bound for just coming here.

    I would say it’s the most comprehensive study I’ve read so far on life after death with over 30 years worth of carefully selected case-studies. All appear to paint the same dazzling pictures of a vast, wondrous universe of love, light, beauty and intelligence.

    Our humble language can only hint at its glory, and for me personally it’s been like finding the missing piece to the jigsaw. It’s a book that has drawn in so many seemingly disparate notions of my own, formulated haphazardly over the years from countless sources and bound them together in a deeply meaningful way. A eureka moment on every page!

    Sometimes it’s extremely moving, sometimes laugh out loud. It has made me question myself too. My motives, my relationship with others, my ego and what my soul is here to learn in this present incarnation.

    I came to the conclusion by the end of it that nothing is by chance, not even a colleague shoving a book into your hands as you walk out of the workplace for the last time.

    We are here to learn to forgive. To show kindness, love and compassion to our fellow man and woman, and to try and leave our world a better place than we found it.

    That it seems is the script. Enjoy, enjoy, enjoy!
    Each breath a gift...
    _____________

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    Can anyone explain why mandatory amnesia at birth may be essential?


    Quote Posted by Mare (here)
    Hello everyone,
    I came to appreciate the roles of spirit guides, why we are assigned to soul groups (a group we return to again and again after each incarnation) and I also gained an insight into why we choose the body and life we now find ourselves in, and why mandatory amnesia at birth is essential.
    .
    My personal feeling at the moment is:


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    Default Re: Do we have a Spirit? Do we have a Soul? And where's the proof?

    I believe we have a soul / spirit. The body is temporary....the soul is infinite. I don't buy into religion but I do believe in the soul (and it's importance).

    Dave - Toronto

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    Default Re: Do we have a Spirit? Do we have a Soul? And where's the proof?

    I think at this point in time the amnesia is so intense because we are at the negative end of a long cycle.
    I doubt that it's this bad all the time, or we would probably never agree to incarnate into 3D reality at all!

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    Can anyone explain why mandatory amnesia at birth may be essential?


    Quote Posted by Mare (here)
    Hello everyone,
    I came to appreciate the roles of spirit guides, why we are assigned to soul groups (a group we return to again and again after each incarnation) and I also gained an insight into why we choose the body and life we now find ourselves in, and why mandatory amnesia at birth is essential.
    .
    My personal feeling at the moment is:


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    Each breath a gift...
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    Default Re: Do we have a Spirit? Do we have a Soul? And where's the proof?

    Quote Posted by Ron Mauer Sr (here)
    Can anyone explain why mandatory amnesia at birth may be essential?
    Without amnesia, we would never really reincarnate. We would be living into eternity (or the same life each time we reincarnate) with short breaks after each human body we occupy dies. I have no desire to live any form of eternal life. If I am going to reincarnate I hope each reincarnation is exponentially different. It may have some similarities and maybe a few things might spill into the next iteration but I truly hope it is incomparable to all previous lives.

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    Quote Posted by Ron Mauer Sr (here)
    Can anyone explain why mandatory amnesia at birth may be essential?


    Quote Posted by Mare (here)
    Hello everyone,
    I came to appreciate the roles of spirit guides, why we are assigned to soul groups (a group we return to again and again after each incarnation) and I also gained an insight into why we choose the body and life we now find ourselves in, and why mandatory amnesia at birth is essential.
    .
    My personal feeling at the moment is:


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    I agree with the sentiment Ron.
    When a seer, a very insightful writer, after years past from our last conversations, went out of his way to meet me, and tell me that
    I "had no right to get involved with the emotions of humans" because I was/am 'a warrior', I recall the ability we all have to draw in the memories....
    and at the same time be alive in the creation of new memories forever with us...

    As bright as my memories are, so also is the awareness that traveling deeper can just as well be a diversion from the vivid and super conscious living always with us...

    The force of spirit, when realized, is more powerful than chemical amnesia and the pre-birth vibrational memory removal.
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    Default Re: Do we have a Spirit? Do we have a Soul? And where's the proof?

    One does not need definitive "proof" to know that we do in fact, have a soul, spirit, Higher Self, etc. If you want "proof" in the sense of measuring and decoding and whatnot, you won't find it, and thus are barking up the wrong tree as it is. Tis' not the point.

    Really, one only needs to have a deep sense of awareness, that experience of LIFE to know that we very much do have a soul, spirit, etc. beyond the shadow of any doubt. It's as simple (and profound!) as that.

    And no worries, I am not one for religious jargon either. I never was.
    "The truth will set us free, whatever that may be."
    "Question everything. Make a path where there was not one before."
    "We are part of the Universe. It's story, is our story."

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