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    The cancel culture has moved into high gear. Hardly a day goes by when a person or corporation isn't targeted. Some of it is certainly justified when a celebrity, politician, or notable person makes an undeniably racist or sexist comment.  Without a doubt, it is now being used to silence people or damage companies when they say objectionable words or take social stances that others find unacceptable. 

    Most of the cancel culture gets its start on social media but the real power comes from the mainstream media. Some of it is maddening, much of it is humorous but all of it has an impact (better or worse) on our world. 

    In a few short years, it is probably going to be hard for people to believe that some of this actually went on so I thought we might document some of the cancel culture activities.

    Bari Weiss quits New York Times after bullying by colleagues over views: 'They have called me a Nazi and a racist'
     
    New York Times opinion columnist and editor Bari Weiss announced Tuesday she is leaving the New York Times, saying she was bullied by colleagues in an "illiberal environment," weeks after declaring there was a “civil war” inside the paper. 



    Quote "The lessons that ought to have followed the [2016] election—lessons about the importance of understanding other Americans, the necessity of resisting tribalism, and the centrality of the free exchange of ideas to a democratic society—have not been learned,” Weiss wrote. “Instead, a new consensus has emerged in the press, but perhaps especially at this paper: that truth isn’t a process of collective discovery, but an orthodoxy already known to an enlightened few whose job is to inform everyone else.”
     

    Source:  https://www.foxnews.com/media/bari-w...times-bullying
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    Postmodernism cancels common sense, reason, logic, and science.

    Marxism cancels success, morality, hard work, and competence.

    Social Justice, which is sort of a hodge-podge of both, cancels all those things plus language and history

    When you marry the three, you have a real disaster on your hands..and that's what we're seeing today.

    The National Museum For African American History And Culture has recently linked rationality, hard work, self sufficiency, and decision making with the plague of "whiteness", suggesting of course that those are things to be avoided.

    Seriously.

    I highly doubt that 99.9% of African Americans believe that crap for even a moment. It's an absolute load of sh!t.

    As I've tried to emphasize many times here: I think the current goings on in this country actually have little to do with a race war, and much more to do with a war on common sense and sanity. The war manifests itself in our most sensitive areas (race, gender etc), making it difficult to discuss reasonably for all sorts of reasons

    Everything is backwards, or inverted. Therefore, the most sane, reasonable voices are being silenced while the most unhinged and hysterical are loudest.
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    JK Rowling was recently vilified, and then cancelled by left-wing extremists, for daring to criticize the phrase: "people who menstruate", instead of "women".

    To explain this phenomena, nothing else need be said than,

    "When the power of love overcomes the love of power the world will know peace."
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    Even 12 year olds are getting cancelled. This kid was actually arrested...for a tweet. They were unpleasant, racist tweets, and he needs a good scolding and punishment for them for sure..from his parents....not from big brother.

    This is astounding:
    https://sports.yahoo.com/12-yearold-...175343769.html

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    Default Re: Cancel Culture (Examples)

    Quote Posted by Mike (here)
    Postmodernism cancels common sense, reason, logic, and science.
    Your ignorance about postmodernism speaks for itself.
    Let me guess: you are either parroting Jordan Peterson or Stephens Hicks.

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    That is the craziest oxymoron: postmodernism. What a crock

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    Quote Posted by silvanelf (here)
    Quote Posted by Mike (here)
    Postmodernism cancels common sense, reason, logic, and science.
    Your ignorance about postmodernism speaks for itself.
    Let me guess: you are either parroting Jordan Peterson or Stephens Hicks.

    My knowledge about postmodernism is informed mostly by Jordan Peterson, James Lindsay, Steven Pinker, Jonathan Haidt and a few others. Videos and online articles mostly. But i've never read Jaques Derrida, admittedly.

    Start a thread about it maybe. Show me where I've gone wrong.

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    $2,000 A Day Fine For Obstructing Coronavirus Contact Tracing
    Jul 7, 2020
    Shahar Ziv
    (WRITES FOR FORBES--MAKES ME WANT TO )
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/shaharz.../#2266c599402b



    "Officials in New York’s Rockland County recently got aggressive about contact tracing, issuing subpoenas to eight party-goers who refused to cooperate with tracking efforts. If the eight had failed to comply, they would have been subject to fines of $2,000 per day; however, within 24 hours, all eight acquiesced, signaling that the threat of a monetary fine may be an effective health policy tool to mitigate the spread of coronavirus.

    100 Person Gathering In Rockland County:
    As reported by The New York Times NYT +2.1%, a party in Rockland County, NY in mid-June attracted a crowd of 100 people, in violation of a state ordinance that capped gathers at 10 people. After the party’s host and eight guests tested positive, Rockland officials launched a vigorous contact tracing effort to identify others who may have been exposed. They quickly hit a road-bump as several of the party-goers obstructed the efforts.

    “My staff has been told that a person does not wish to, or have to, speak to my disease investigators,” Dr. Patricia Schnabel Ruppert, the county’s health commissioner, was quoted in the Times. Of the individuals her team tried to contact, Dr. Schnabel said, “they hang up. They deny being at the party even though we have their names from another party attendee.”

    Instead of tolerating the party-goers selfish refusal to cooperate, Rockland County upped the ante, issuing subpoenas. “Those who did not comply and share what they knew by [the following day] would face fines of $2,000 a day,” according to Rockland officials.

    The subpoena and financial warning worked as all eight individuals who had received a subpoena started cooperating with the county Health Department. “I will not allow the health of our county to be compromised because of ignorance, stupidity or obstinance, or anything else,” Ed Day, a Rockland County executive, said.

    Quote MORE FROM FORBES
    Would You Voluntarily Self-Quarantine For A $700 Payment?
    By Shahar Ziv
    Contact Tracing Is Essential:
    Contact tracing is one of the few tools that public health officials have in their arsenal to fight coronavirus outbreaks until a vaccine is safely developed.
    “A role of government is to protect individuals and their families as well as health care workers and other essential workers,” wrote Dr. Tom Frieden, who headed up the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention during the Obama administration and oversaw responses to H1N1, Ebola, and Zika, and Dr. Kelly Henning, the director of public health at Bloomberg Philanthropies and a former professor of infectious disease at the University of Pennsylvania School of Medicine. “The hard, skilled work of contact tracing is akin to hurricane warnings: People are alerted so they can protect themselves and their families. . .we need to play the hand we’ve been dealt as well as we possibly can to save lives, reduce spread and help restore our economy.”

    Sadly, New York City and other places that have embraced contact tracing, have struggled with its execution. In New York, less than half of city residents who had tested positive or were presumed positive provided information to contact tracers. In Massachusetts, only 60 percent were responding and in Louisiana, fewer than 50 percent were answering.

    “What we lived through. . . is [the] equivalent of a forest fire,” Andy Slavitt told PBS Newshour host, Judy Woodruff. “What we have to do is to prevent forest fires from breaking out, so we can catch things when they're little campfires. And in order to do that, we have to have the ability to surround the outbreak as it happens, so it doesn't spread into community again.”

    Adopt Rockland County’s Approach:
    The rest of the country should adopt Rockland County’s model. Contact tracing is so crucial to containing outbreaks, that it shouldn’t be left up to the whims of individuals. The Covid-19 pandemic proves how health and wealth are tightly integrated. Economic recovery depends on being able to control the outbreak of Covid-19 and currently, the U.S is failing miserably. “The virus drives the economics,” said Betsey Stevenson, who served on President Obama’s Council of Economic Advisers and is now a professor at the University of Michigan. If Covid-cases keep rising, “we’re not going to have people going back to work,” she added.

    Up until now, most coronavirus prevention efforts, including quarantines and contact tracing, have only been loosely enforced. When you have imbeciles in Alabama throwing Covid parties to see who can get infected first and selfish vacationers in the Ozarks crowding pools without masks, we need to wake up to the fact that voluntary efforts are inadequate.

    Individual rights have limits. Just like one cannot yell fire in a crowded movie theater and one’s right to throw a punch ends where another’s nose begins, we need to rethink the balance of individual rights and community obligation. If individuals aren’t willing to take rational and basic steps to mitigate the spread, the government must mandate action and ramp up enforcement.

    Conclusion:
    Rockland County’s subpoena and threat of a $2,000 fine worked well. The rest of the country should adopt equal measures. American lives depend on it."
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    Harper's Letter condemning 'cancel culture' draws debate on social media

    One hundred and fifty college professors, liberal activists, and celebrities cry uncle under the weight of the cancel culture have posted a letter in Harper's Magazine. While they took the opportunity to deride Trump they also condemned the general culture of intolerance, public shaming, and ostracism which is at the heart of their complaint and it is picking off their colleagues on a daily basis.

    "Editors are fired for running controversial pieces; books are withdrawn for alleged inauthenticity; journalists are barred from writing on certain topics; professors are investigated for quoting works of literature in class; a researcher is fired for circulating a peer-reviewed academic study, and the heads of organizations are ousted for what are sometimes just clumsy mistakes," said the letter.

    Had they published this letter individually they most certainly would have been subjected to intense hatred and ostracism but the group effort offers some form of protection.



    Harpers: https://harpers.org/a-letter-on-just...d-open-debate/
    Source: https://thehill.com/changing-america...cancel-culture

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    Quote Posted by Mike (here)
    Start a thread about it [postmodernism] maybe. Show me where I've gone wrong.
    Mod note from Bill:

    Yes, that's a good positive suggestion. I'd prefer this important thread (about "Cancel Culture") stays on topic, as it's quite an important issue for us all.

    Always remember: whatever our disagreements may seem to be here on the forum, our actual enemies (and/or threats to our sovereignty, freedom or rights of every kind) are all exterior to our community, and they're very real, too.


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    Here's sort of a consolidated list of some people who have been cancelled recently:


    https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/...150558398.html

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    Lesbians are being cancelled, at least on reddit they are anyway. Benjamin Boyce hosts (forgot her name), a former moderator on a reddit forum called True Lesbians, which was a forum exclusively for biological women who are into other biological women. They were accused of being an intolerant hate group by some subgroup of the lgbqt etc, and subsequently shut down. I've only skimmed the video, but apparently since the group was not interested in men who identify as women and still have dicks (trans women), they were being discriminatory and bigoted and therefore had to go.

    I've been saying for a long time now that it was just a matter of time before the lgbqt etc community began eating itself. If you're playing victim olympics among groups of allegedly oppressed people who keep endlessly dividing themselves into further oppressed subgroups, those subgroups will eventually view the groups before them as their "oppressors". So, the more groups you create, the more division you sew.

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    On the question of what to do and where to go in these crazy times. I realized that for the time being I will identify as a human being. No further subdivision or engrandizement necessary. Humans come in all shapes and sizes, and can experience heavens and hells right here. I will embrace all of it.

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    Here you can see the hypocrisy of the Right.

    Quote That the original letter and its signers can not be taken seriously was emphatically proven with this:

    Jeremy Repanich @racefortheprize - 23:14 UTC · Jul 17, 2020

    LOL. Thomas Chatterton Williams, who wrote the Harper's letter, admitted today that Glenn Greenwald was kept off the letter b/c other signees didn't like his views.

    The signers of the letter against the 'cancel culture' had cancelled Glenn Greenwald from signing it.
    https://www.moonofalabama.org/2020/0...as-frauds.html

    Glenn Greenwald about "Elites are Distorting the Cancel Culture Crisis":


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    A Texas realtor group announced on June 25 that it would stop using the word “master” to describe bedrooms and bathrooms due to connotations of slavery.
    The Houston Association of Realtors said it would replace “master” with the word “primary.” source: https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/25/us/ma...&utm_term=link

    The makers of the game Dungeons & Dragons have announced they will eliminate the concept of “evil” races and implement other changes to make the game more sensitive to diversity issues. One of those changes includes “incorporating sensitivity readers into our creative process, and we will continue to reach out to experts in various fields to help us identify our blind spots.” Source: https://dnd.wizards.com/articles/fea...ersity-and-dnd

    A giant cross dedicated to Junipero Serra on Mount Rubidoux in Riverside, Calif., was vandalized on the night of June 28. Serra founded missions at San Francisco and San Diego that were the first European settlements at those sites. The Spanish priest has been a target of Native American groups and historians who claim Serra sanctioned the oppression of Native Americans. Graffiti on the cross in Riverside read “Serra was a pedophile,” “Murderer,” and “N8V Land.” Source: https://www.foxla.com/news/giant-cro...d-in-riverside

    The producers of The Simpsons have decided to use only non-white actors to voice non-white characters. The white actor who voices African American character Cleveland in Family Guy also announced he would step down from the role. Actresses Jenny Slate and Kristen Bell have also announced they will stop voicing biracial characters on two animated TV shows. Slate voiced character Missy on Netflix’s Bigmouth, while Bell voiced Molly Tillerman on the Apple TV+ series Central Park. Source: https://www.npr.org/sections/live-up...oon-characters

    Emory & Henry College in Virginia has announced that the school will consider changing its wasp mascot, because it is indicative of the acronym WASP, which might foster an exclusive and discriminatory environment for students who are not White Anglo-Saxon Protestants. The WASP mascot has been deemed offensive. Source: https://www.yaf.org/news/virginia-co...e-wasp-mascot/

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    Quote Posted by silvanelf (here)
    Here you can see the hypocrisy of the Right.
    ...
    Left and right are overplayed constructs imo. This so called 'Right' is simply anyone who speaks out against things like BLM the organisation, trans women's rights, or challenges other extreme ideological positions. Take Zuby for example in this reddit article about how he got in trouble with twitter (link). He's the right now apparently ?lolwut. That type of labeling is lazy or naive or both

    Project Veritas published this on 25th June 2020 showing the internal workings of Facebook, recording a series of meetings and showing their bias. It speaks for itself; it's pretty damming for Facebook


    But why moan and mope about. They're entitled to ban who they want, when they want. People have alternatives and are free to choose. Free market economy sorts it out as people vote with their wallets.

    One exception here is the BBC, who have a guaranteed licence fee income that UK people must pay. They need to work much harder to lose their funding. This hasn't stopped them trying, and credit to the BBC: they have pissed so many people off that, right now, there's a strong movement to decriminalise the not paying the BBC license fee. Then the BBC would have to fund themselves on the strength of their own content. This is the BBC's worst nightmare, they wouldn't know where to start.

    But that's the BBC. Other companies aren't so insulated from free market economy; basically people vote with their wallet. The Guardian newspaper is in financial trouble for example.

    And then take Patron. Patreon could be in serious legal trouble with their prior round of cancellations a year or two ago. That's the problem cancelling someone just because you don't like their opinion.
    Patreon is in Serious Legal Trouble
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    And a bit more commentary from Akkad Daily on this subject in this YouTube video here

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    California Curator Resigns After Saying Museum Would Continue Collecting White Artists



    Prominent art curator Gary Garrels has resigned from the San Francisco Museum of Modern Art in response to backlash to comments he's made against what he described as "reverse discrimination" and "profiling" in curation decisions involving white artists.

    In a July 7 staff meeting held over Zoom, an employee confronted Garrels regarding comments made at a January all-staff meeting and shared by an anonymous contributor to an Instagram account "pressuring US museums to move beyond lip service proclamations of anti-racism by amplifying tales of unchecked racism."

    "Don't worry, we will definitely still continue to collect white artists," Garrels was alleged to have said at the end of a presentation about the acquisition of works by artists of color, Artnet reported.

    SFMOMA's senior curator of painting and sculpture, who worked for the museum for a combined 19 years since 1993, Garrels is considered one of the most prominent museum curators in the country.

    Asked about the comments on July 7, Garrels said "To say that we will not collect another white artist I absolutely do not agree with," according to the art publication Hyperallergic, which cited a recording of the meeting.

    Garrels further characterized such a move as amounting to "reverse discrimination," a description that was immediately met by an unidentified employee interjecting to say, "He did not just say that!"

    Reverse discrimination is the favoring of a minority or disadvantaged group over the dominant majority group. In the context of social and political discourse, the concept is often evoked to criticize or attack affirmative action programs, or otherwise frame measures meant to redress historic and ongoing racial inequalities as amounting to anti-white racism. While thinly evidenced, typically premised in anecdotes and countered by empirical research into racial discrimination, belief in reverse racism is widespread among white people in the United States.

    Source: https://www.newsweek.com/sfmoma-cura...racism-1517984

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    As soon "Saturday Night Live," announced their newest caste member all eyes were on Shane Gillis. The same afternoon of the announcement, though, news broke that Gillis had a history of making defamatory comments about Chinese Americans, LGBTQ people and women during episodes of his podcast with fellow comedian Matt McCusker called "Matt and Shane's Secret Podcast." "SNL" decided to fire him before the season began, saying: "We were not aware of his prior remarks that have surfaced over the past few days. Source: https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/16/enter...lis/index.html

    Legendary hockey coach and sports broadcaster Don Cherry stepped down from Canada's No. 1 sports network, Sportsnet, after referring to immigrants as "you people." Sportsnet said in a statement on Twitter that Cherry's comments were "divisive" and "do not represent our values or what we stand for." Source: https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/11/enter...rnd/index.html

    Comedian Sarah Silverman has said she was fired from a movie after producers found a sketch from 2007 in which she wore blackface make-up. Source: https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/12/enter...ntl/index.html

    Scarlett Johansson received major backlash in July after discussing actors playing characters of other races, genders and sexual orientations. She said she should be allowed to play "any person, or any tree, or any animal." Her comments sparked criticism on social media about privilege and appropriation. Source: https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/14/enter...rnd/index.html

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    One less reality TV show is probably a good thing but it does show that the cancel culture is alive and well and affecting every corner of society.

    A&E Has Lost Half Its Viewers Since Dropping 'Live PD'

    Cable television ratings for A&E Network have plummeted since it canceled the hit police reality show, “Live PD” on June 10, according to the Wall Street Journal.

    Following the death of George Floyd and riots led by “Black Lives Matter” across the country, A&E Network capitulated to demands to cancel the law enforcement show saying in a statement:

    Quote “This is a critical time in our nation’s history and we have made the decision to cease production on Live PD. Going forward, we will determine if there is a clear pathway to tell the stories of both the community and the police officers whose role it is to serve them. And with that, we will be meeting with community and civil rights leaders as well as police departments.”
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    https://thehill.com/policy/technolog...censor-content

    Cancelling IMO is just old fashion Censoring. The technocracy moved the population to media platforms promoted as their new form of human connection and social interaction and source of news. They allowed it to be relatively free in order for people to buy in. They later covertly control and then outwardly control what they want heard and followed. No one is immune even those who were once elevated to victim-hood will be torn down, because they can, because its not about truth its about control. For now they want you think its about equality and difference of opinion. They must be really laughing about how easily the sheep are herded and incapable of seeing the simplest of fallacies. Soon with no debate, no rationalization, no humane just or racial cause, you will just be cancelled-eliminated because they ( CFR ) say so. They want us to get used to this new normal because tomorrow you will one of the disappeared rather than cancelled.

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